2024比2020会有哪些改观?谈大选诚信问题时事2023-08-20 00:08陌上美国Telegram channel,欢迎订阅(下载app修改privacy设置;拷贝地址用浏览器打开(微信打开无效);点击“join/进入”):https://t.me/MoshangUS电报读者群https://t.me/+KY6EeBC-aXYzNmMx陌上美国推特 https://twitter.com/MoshangUsa陌上美国YouTube频道(email登录YouTube,订阅):https://www.youtube.com/c/MOSHANGUSA碰到一个语气凶恶却要凑到✝️群的人的提问,前5个都只方便贴在墙外,本文围绕其第6个问题展开讨论:6.你所谓的不参与初选,是不是小心翼翼避免表明你的立场?你如果说自己支持德桑蒂斯,是不是支持他“2020没有被盗,J6是叛乱”的宣告?微信群有人提问我的回答:这种问题是基于左派“Silence is violence(不表态即暴力)”的逻辑设计的。不过我从来不是一个回避辩论和尖锐提问的人。我及我平台对于2020年大选和J6,都有多篇文章讨论。相关前文🔗:为什么无法排除2020选举舞弊了?一位MIT、UNC校友的看法川普打选举舞弊官司对美国无害拜登选民的投稿:我支持调查是否存在选举舞弊民主党起的头,不承认美国大选结果,输不起为什么我认为本届大选争议的司法解决不令人满意哈佛MIT川黑发来纪录片《2千骡子》,与“美国历史上最安全的选举”我个人认为大选舞弊从投票前就有多种有可能改变选举结果的异常,保守派的重点不能只放在投票日投票最后一环。可以取证、反击、从立法和程序上完善的地方有:1)多个摇摆州最后一刻修改选举惯例,允许临时登记到最后一天、通过邮寄投票,这些操作在一些摇摆州是让法官决定的,而不是按照宪法走州内立法机构投票才能修改。这些最后临门一脚改规则涉及违规违宪,是保守派可以打官司、修补的方向。到底给大选结果造成多大冲击,需要走司法程序得出结论;参考(对应字幕附在文末):https://youtu.be/zaZOpyzs1F02)大选前美国主流媒体等权威机构、自媒体等BigTech这些事实上的公共讨论广场,联手封杀完全可以对大选结果带来决定性影响的且对败灯选情不利的信息,最有代表性的是他们对NYPost报道Hunter败灯电脑门事件的新闻,在大选前几周的“十月惊奇”最关键时刻拦截下来,而民调显示有近乎20%的选民说如果大选前知道这个新闻他们会可能改变2020年投票的选择。这是无法定量却真实确实的对大选的干扰。Time杂志大选后有篇自吹的文章暴露左翼和两党建制派势力的这些暗门操作,而推特文档则有广泛深入的内部爆料;参考The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/3)尽管GOP的票集中进来时候川普得票也可以拿到F型上升的小跳跃,但是民主党这边不同的是,大选日过后的1-2天,拜登曲线出现在大选日之后的凌晨三点多个摇摆州同步发生,这是GOP这边没有发生的。这需要调查取证诉讼,但是一些摇摆州发生疑点的地方是左翼重灾区,让人对于司法公正是否能排除“袋鼠法庭(Kangaroo Court)”发生没有信心。至于投票机这些事更为玄乎,目前没有明确的证明,而Fox赔偿9亿美元认栽的行为更加给左翼否定大选舞弊送了便利,这个方向无法说通太多人。大选舞弊目前最有说服力的纪录片是2000骡子,本号有发过相关文章普及这个documentary(参考前文🔗2千骡子与“美国历史上最安全的选举”)。但我也有得到一种质疑反馈——电影里面有不少引起关注的有说服力的事实证明,但是没有提供任何同一个“骡子”在不同的投票站运票的视频证明。这是不足之处,但不等于就是否定这个可能。再结合20年大选之后各摇摆战场的选举结果,比如参考佛吉尼亚州(VA)21年州长选举翻红、乔治亚州(GA)和内华达州(NV)的22年中期选举结果。因此,我目前观点就是有舞弊但是并非不能克服的Margin。你如果真觉得美国大选投票舞弊到民主党一手遮天了,你还会真关心政治?大部分人不会了,这样的自相矛盾会让很多人躺平,这是保守派想要的事吗。关于J6,我也报道了Carlson的牛角人视频https://rumble.com/v2c4psg-five-big-lies-by-j6-committee-are-revealed-by-tucker-carlson-january-6th-ca.html (怕被封杀处罚我从YouTube下架了)Massie议员在国会展示可疑FBI线人混在人群中煽动冲击国会的视频(被黄标处罚)https://youtu.be/Lpr5UOqYwO0 芝加哥大学教授研究发现J6是个普通人自发的mainstream运动的结论(被黄标处罚)https://youtu.be/5wkN9fmKzjE基于以上几点的分析,涉及大选诚信问题,有些漏洞是过去三年在改观的,比如由于推特易主加上川普创办了Truth Media,这给保守派在自媒体上发声带来与2020年的明显不同,“亨特电脑门”新闻被左翼把持的自媒体全封那种事情几乎无法再发生;又譬如投票核查身份,北卡州就已经通过投票需要出示ID的法律,这方面的努力可以向各摇摆州推进;此外GOP也有计划在选票收割已经合法化的州,同样派人用采这种方式,用对手喜爱的游戏法则打败他们。因此,2024年有望比2020年减少一些舞弊操作的空间,关键还是看保守派在各州从基层做起具体落实了多少,尤其那些摇摆战场。一味夸大舞弊,跟给反美势力送子弹没区别。这是有些人和势力想要的,但不是真正希望保守派赢的人希望的。附1:@风语者 我回答完毕你的问题了,请你也如实回答,你是不是截图给那个攻击我的人?请你转告那位,我不与人对骂,尤其那种专心下流无耻要激怒我的人。但我保留法律上对辱骂诽谤造谣者诉讼的权利。相关前文🔗报个平安,被网爆和人肉地址后怎么应对?另外你既然提出这么多问题包括一些不怀好意的问题,对于你这种新进群的ID,我想问你你在代表个人还是组织向我提问,比如如果记者提问,都会给出身份。我是一个被各种仇家多次人肉曝光造谣诽谤很多的人,我的信息在明而且是一些势力的目标,你要我回答这么多问题你不能就靠一个蒙面身份吧,你敢给一下名字和地方,这样证明你的credibility,我也会更认真对待你的提问。因为对等才更容易获得彼此信任。而且你的问题对于阻挠微信被告有利,你怕什么?附2:美國大選系統十大漏洞 “安全性停留在19世紀”今天講選舉誠信話題。我會提出一個解決方案。問題根源在於,選舉投票系統跟19世紀一樣古老,1800年至今沒有升級多少。Right, well today we're going to talk a little bit about election integrity and then I will propose a solution to some of the problems. The problem right now stem from the fact that we essentially have a 19th century election. And voting system not really that much has changed since the 1800s.第一個嚴肅問題,人們說到選舉盗窃/舞弊,指的是什麼?So first the larger question, when people talk about stealing an election, what do they mean?媒體總是把重點放在“選票造假”,其實他們只是避重就輕選了不常見問題。選舉盜竊涉及的問題大得多。The media always focuses on ballot fraud, because that's kind of the least common problem. But daily election actually can consist of much more than that.選票造假是可能問題之一,我們今天會提;最後關頭改選舉法也完全可以帶來嚴重問題,特別是走違規越權的方式。選舉法本來是由立法機構來制定,結果2020年大選出現很多最後關頭改法律。而且成了司法機關越權,而不是走立法機構。造成法律上的失职,但高院也沒受理。高院選擇了不審理相關案子。Ballot fraud can be a problem and that's what we're going to talk about today, but they also mean last minute changes to the voting laws, especially by unauthorized bodies. It's the legislatures that determine the voting laws, and yet in the 2020 election there were a lot of last minute changes to the laws and changes made by the Judiciary rather than the legislature, which are in legal limbo. The Supreme Court was asked to rule on it, but they did not. They punted.另一大問題就是故意遏止投票和假信息。很明顯的例子就是來自,媒體聯手製造了選舉干擾。明顯例子就是,爆料拜登兒子亨特電腦門,2020年大選前卻被封殺。And then of course the other thing is deliberate misinformation or suppression. The most obvious example of that, being the suppression coordinated amongst many of the major media sources. For example, the hunter Biden laptop story just before the 2020 election.不過今天我們重點會講選票造假,大規模選票造假一般不常見,但並非沒有發生過,這有個例子。該🔗給出的就是個歷史上出名的例子。But today we're going to focus on ballot fraud. And the first thing that I'll say is that, generally large-scale ballot fraud is not common, but it does occur. And I've put a link here that references a story in the Heritage organization about a significant case of ballot fraud.那麼選票造假是怎麼發生的?我們可以就此做什麼改變?So how can valid fraud occur? What are the things that we could do to address that?首先我們需要選民提供ID,而在很多州只要求提供水電費帳單,上面顯示名字和地址就過關了。但是,這樣很容易用死人信息來造假選票,這樣就查不出,多荒謬。Well, for start, we need voter ID. So right now, many states you can just bring in an electric bill with your name and address on it. Well, anybody with a computer can forge an electric bill for a dead person, and go in and be identified as that person. So that's ridiculous.不能有選舉日當天才註冊的政策。我舉個例子,如果某個大黨在某州發現,隔壁州的選舉法寬鬆很多,那麼該黨可以讓自己的支持者跑到隔壁州当天註冊。這個黨可以提出理由,謊稱這個選民住在某個公寓、有地址證明,這樣全套造假根本沒有壓力。弄個投票認同的地址,當天搬過去,還能次日搬走。No same day voter registration. Well for example if a party determines that one state is definitely going to go their way but a neighboring state isn't, then they can just tell people to go over to the other state. And if they have a residence that somebody in the party has arranged, then they can say okay your whole hundred of you are going to live in this apartment, give them this address and there's virtually no way to stop that. You've got a valid address, you've moved to the state, and then the next day you can move back.提前投票規則也改了,製造很多問題。之前只讓週二選舉日投票卻是帶來不便,尤其不利於要上班的人,需要等到當天下班這樣才能去排長隊投票,非常麻煩。於是有人提出選舉日前的週末週一都能投票。結果提前投票改成早6週甚至8周,這造成不好應付的各種意外,比如候選人去世。如果人們投過票了,這非常糟糕。這都不是假設而是2022年選舉發生了的事。賓州州議員就有選出了死人。是的,糟糕透頂,就此有很多誇大攻击。说美國選舉、系統下地獄了,都選出死人。呵,這意味著這些人,在特別選舉前他們就失去對應民選官員代表了。當然是個很糟糕的事情。Early voting is an issue. It was started because voting only on the Tuesday of election day was very difficult for some people. And especially if they had to work they might have to wait until after work, and then stand in long long lines very inconvenient. So they said well, let's make it more convenient. Let's vote on the weekend and the Monday before election day. Well now early voting is six even eight weeks ahead of time. And Things Can Happen things can change. For example, candidates can die, and if people have already voted that's too bad. And you may think that this is a hypothetical case, but it isn't. That happened in the 2022 election. There was a fellow from Pennsylvania... Pennsylvania representative right. It's very bad I already saw a lot of propaganda, that they say American election American system is going to hell because they already elected a dead person. And so what that means is that those people until they can hold a special election for that seat, will have no representation. So that's a bad thing.郵寄選票,需要至少出示一種ID。現在搪塞的理由就是會核對簽名,但是,這出錯率會很高,簽名總是會不同。這樣核對簽名的機器算法設置自然需要非常粗糙,我觀察到佐治亞州2020加場選舉完全放棄了簽名核對。他們選擇不核查就直接相信就是來自本人的簽名。Mail-in ballots. They need some form of positive ID. They claim that they're going to do signature matching but that's so difficult. If you sign your name a hundred times, it's going to look different a hundred ways. And so they have to have very loose algorithms for signature matching. And in fact, I believe that in Georgia in the runoff election (2020) they just gave up on it all together. And said well we're just going to trust that this is the right person's signature.郵寄選票之前是要求選舉日當天寄到,這才是選舉日本身的意義,結果現在越改越晚。這製造了純粹的鬧劇,比如在加州,選舉日後好幾周都不能出結果,想想這要引發多少官司。對,把選舉日數成了“選舉月”。傷害了人們對系統的信任度,說的很對,我們要改變現狀。Mail in ballots. It used to be that they had to arrive by election day because that's when the election was now. They're letting them go later and later and later which results in the complete mess that we have for example out in California where elections don't get called for weeks afterward and nobody knows who's been elected and how many lawsuits are going to come from that. I think they are still counting. Election Day becomes election month It just discourages people from trusting the system. You're exactly right and we need to do something about that.選票投入箱2020年之前很少有地方用,如果人拿到郵寄的選票,就用郵箱寄走;人人都方便,為什麼還要選票投票箱。那麼選票投放箱帶來的問題是什麼?不同於郵箱有各種信件,投票箱只收選票。這就給干擾選舉的帶來很大可乘之機。給投票和塞假票的事都增加了風險。需要有監控器,我不知道為什麼要設置選舉投入箱。Drop boxes. Before 2020 very few places even use drop boxes, and if you did a mail-in ballot, you mailed it in using a mailbox which is as far as I know available to everyone in the country. So why do we even need drop boxes and what's wrong with them? Well the problem with drop boxes is that unlike the mailbox, which has mail of all different kinds, drop boxes only have ballots so they make great targets if you are someone who wants to perpetrate a fraud either by stealing ballot or by stuffing ballot into drop boxes. So they at least need monitoring. And I'm not sure why we really need them at all.選票收集,就是有人到處去收割選票。收割那些自稱是合法投票的人的選票,但是其實很難查驗真假。可以發生去公寓或老人家,收集郵寄的選票,把可能還沒填的這種選票拿走,造假的自己填好,弄一套假信息,再加上簽名核對機制也缺乏,這樣對於現有系統下完全合法的選票,輕鬆就能實現造假突破了。所以選票收割完全應該被廢除。Ballot harvesting. That's where someone goes around and collects lots of ballots from people who they claim have voted legally. But you don't know that, they could go around to an apartment or an old folks home and they could take the mail-in ballots that the people have not yet filled out, take them fill them out themselves, forge a name onto it. And if the signature matching, requirements aren't there, then they can just take all of those ballots which are perfectly legal. Ballots which will be tracked by the system as being valid. And they can put whatever they want onto them. So ballot harvesting should not be allowed.選民登記名冊。每次選舉後有人去世或者搬家,但是對選民名冊的更新卻嚴重延遲。拿佛吉尼亞舉例,我兒子女兒上大學後就搬走了。之後每年我們都收到VA州里發來的選民登記要求,這些邀請根本不清楚人們搬走了這些細節,如果有人利用這種漏洞,就可以在VA投票。這種舞弊的做法還挺難被發現。是的,尤其當今一派在用自己所有的權力便利,包括宣傳機器,媒體和自媒體,不斷信息轟炸;反復洗腦說美國出來希特勒要攻佔白宮,這可能刺激很多人覺得自己在做正確的事,就算非法投票還以為是救國,算不清有多少這種人。你說得對,他們很自認為正義,覺得在拯救民主。實際上不是,他們在破壞民主。Voter rolls. People die after each election, people move after each election, and yet the voter rolls rarely get updated. Here in Virginia for example, my son and daughter moved away from home when they went to college, and for years afterwards, we would get voter registration requests from the state of Virginia. Or these people because they didn't know that they had moved, they didn't know that they were voting elsewhere. So if they'd been willing to take the risk, they could have registered in Virginia and wherever else they lived, and it would have been very difficult to track down. Especially nowadays there is a one side use all their power, the propaganda machine or the media, social media to let people believe that, America had a Hitler is trying to take the White House. That could encourage a lot of people to think they are doing the right thing. So even they do some illegal voting, we cannot imagine how many people really fall into those kind of narratives and do something risk. No you're exactly right, they justify it because "They are saving democracy!" But they aren't, they're perverting it.當下最好的操作就是現場去投票了。把紙質的選票用筆填寫好,投到選票機讀取結果。現在的情況是,有動態的選票計數和結果更新,同時把紙的選票保存收集到一個盒子裡,如果對選舉結果有質疑,那麼可以回頭審計,再計票一遍。電子讀取的結果和紙選票的結果應該一致。還有我比較顧慮的事就是發生在補選中,GA 2020年參議員2席的增加選舉,到2021年1月5日才舉行這個加場選舉,大選和加場選舉間冒出來很多新的註冊選民。人多到足夠讓2個民主黨參議員勝選。本來至少一個在11月大選中根本就沒贏。我們如何知道這些新註冊的人都是GA選民?他們大選已經投過票,又可以到12月6日前都再去GA註冊。想想一車車學生被給一個臨時公寓地址,在GA當天投個票,第二天還能回自己住的州;根本就不會被追責,這需要改變。這些切入點都非常棒,很喜歡。不過選舉是州權,各自決定自己的選舉法。難的在於改革法律系統修復選舉誠信。我有個改革方案,大家可能不喜歡,比較大膽。不過起碼可以提供一個參考討論選項,一個可能有些瘋狂的建議......So what's the best system currently? well the best system is in-person voting using a paper ballot that you mark with a pen or a marker, and then put into an electronic tabulation machine. So now you have constantly updated count of the ballots and the election results, but you also have a paper trail, so that if the results get challenged, you can go back and audit it. And there should be an exact match between the electronic records and the actual paper ballots. And then another one that I'm concerned about is runoff elections in Georgia in 2020. And the the runoff election for actually two Senate seats were not held until January 5th of 2021, and in between a number of new registrants came in, and registered. And that was sufficient to put both of the Democrats over the line, who had at least in one case not been the majority vote Gators in the original election. And the question is, how do we know that those new registrants were actually Georgia residents they already voted in the general election? And now they have until the 6th of December to register in Georgia. You could envision busloads of students being brought down, given common apartment addresses, and then being registered in the Georgia system. And then going out and voting, and then going home the next day. And there is nothing that they could have done about it, so that needs to be fixed. These are very good points. I like all of them. But because the election is more about the state. Each state decides the their election system. The hard part is to pass a new law to fix the broken election system. Well, let me propose something to you, and this is a radical suggestion, you may not like it, but I will put it on the table, so that it can be explored. 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