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c*o
1
first year ap, top 50 public university
上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
track上的必经程序。
我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
below average。
NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?
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h*g
2
在我的OPT期间, 我在同学的一个Start-up小公司做volunteer, 现在回国签证, 请问我
是说volunteer还是unpaid intern. 因为我同学的公司不是non-profit, 所以好象说
volunteer不太合适. 听说OPT期间只能在non-profit organization做volunteer. 是不
是这样? 谢谢!
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s*2
3
同事很近的亲人意外去世,设立了纪念基金什么的自己转账,转多少数量级的捐款比较
合适呢?
另外关系比较近的同事结婚,送多重的礼物呢?
第一次在这边遇到,没有太多经验,多谢指点!:)
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G*g
4
摄于Lake Tahoe。
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l*o
5
有人用HTML5和Flash分别做了一个同样的动画,这个动画显示Flash的效能更高。
结果很快有人发现这个HTML5是poorly written
很快有人写出同样的动画但是速度更快
配合Javascript之后更是多个球也很快。
当然HTML5的canvas效能可能总体目前还是不如Flash的速度的。
但是总体来说大部分flash绝对比HTML5网页更消耗资源
只要在Mac上用过flash的都知道flash是多么低效。
最初的作者还说“Adobe不断raising the bar”,太可笑了。Adobe把Bar提升了这么久
自己还这么烂?我看这个作者就是拙劣的coder,只能靠Flash工具来写点动画,要动手
用HTML5来写就写的一团糟。
最初的帖子
http://www.blackcj.com/blog/2010/09/17/flash-outperforms-html5-on-mobile-devices/
别人改进的HTML5/Javascript
http://www.mattryall.net/demo/bouncing/
http://www.satine.org/r
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c*y
6
因材施教是老师的天职,上好课才是真的,research都是浮云

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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f*g
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去世
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s*n
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赞~好大的雪 在CA?
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l*o
9
我自己的测试结果是
说Flash更快的作者做的HTML5在我的3GS上的表现是17fps
我列出来的三个改进版的FPS分别是
30-34fps
40-42fps
40-42fps
几乎每个都比Flash支持者做的快一倍以上。
看来很多人说Flash作者一般都是Bad coder不是空口无凭了。
Flash什么时候能够一下子改进一下增加一倍的性能?!

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: 有人用HTML5和Flash分别做了一个同样的动画,这个动画显示Flash的效能更高。
: 结果很快有人发现这个HTML5是poorly written
: 很快有人写出同样的动画但是速度更快
: 配合Javascript之后更是多个球也很快。
: 当然HTML5的canvas效能可能总体目前还是不如Flash的速度的。
: 但是总体来说大部分flash绝对比HTML5网页更消耗资源
: 只要在Mac上用过flash的都知道flash是多么低效。
: 最初的作者还说“Adobe不断raising the bar”,太可笑了。Adobe把Bar提升了这么久
: 自己还这么烂?我看这个作者就是拙劣的coder,只能靠Flash工具来写点动画,要动手
: 用HTML5来写就写的一团糟。

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c*o
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不是吧?research school当然是reseach最重要吧?
当然也架不住我们这种middle rank的学校,teaching, research什么都要,学生质量
又不能保证,活活把老师累死!
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s*2
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谢谢!
我被邀请婚礼了,所以打算就准备$100左右的礼物吧..
memorial fund 还是准备转一些吧。一个组的同事,每天要共事的。
非常感谢!:)

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 去世
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G*g
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是的。

【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 赞~好大的雪 在CA?
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m*e
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Try watch the video with a slow network. HTML5 can't compete with Flash.
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R*o
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甭管他们。3.77很不错了,而且有上升空间。如果你一开始就是5,以后一旦退步了就
不好了。表面上对领导要尊重,虚心就可以了,再笑笑,领导也高兴

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: 不是吧?research school当然是reseach最重要吧?
: 当然也架不住我们这种middle rank的学校,teaching, research什么都要,学生质量
: 又不能保证,活活把老师累死!

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P*1
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100 is quite low. 200 or higher.

【在 s*****2 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢!
: 我被邀请婚礼了,所以打算就准备$100左右的礼物吧..
: memorial fund 还是准备转一些吧。一个组的同事,每天要共事的。
: 非常感谢!:)

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l*2
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这真得买SUV ...赶得上加拿大了
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l*o
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I am at least happy I don't need flash to watch Youtube, Youku, Tudou,
QQLive etc, not any more!
And all flash sites are dead.

【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
: Try watch the video with a slow network. HTML5 can't compete with Flash.
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P*e
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Top 50的学生还行吧。不到平均到时候容易给想给你使棒子的人以借口。
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s*n
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你以为不是?

【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: 这真得买SUV ...赶得上加拿大了
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m*k
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Flash丢人了。
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t*8
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you will be kicked out soon by your department chair.

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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G*g
22
嗯,路上见到的以SUV居多。不过以前去,雪没这么大。这次连续三天heavy snow。

【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: 这真得买SUV ...赶得上加拿大了
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G*y
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85% of the Alexa top 100 sites use flash. 75percent of all video on the web
is flash
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h*e
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你先说说 怎么在一个学期内把research & 其他方面弄成exceptional? 把攒了三年的
paper在一个学期都发了?

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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s*n
25
我还以为你住那儿 心想这地方下一次埋一次。。。。

【在 G**********g 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,路上见到的以SUV居多。不过以前去,雪没这么大。这次连续三天heavy snow。
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R*e
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What a retard statement. Last time I checked, Youtube, youku, tudou are all
flash sites. Are they all dead?
It doesn't matter who is better, it's the market share that matters. The old
ugly dianosaur called IE 6&7 are still occupying more than 25% of the
browser market. Can you believe it?
Steve job will be dead before flash, that's for sure. 丫有种把flash从Mac OS
X踢出去啊?丫敢吗?

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: I am at least happy I don't need flash to watch Youtube, Youku, Tudou,
: QQLive etc, not any more!
: And all flash sites are dead.

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c*o
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是的,呵呵。
我毕业的时候攒了好几篇paper,拿到工作的时候稿子都投出去了,第一年就光剩修改
了。

【在 h*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你先说说 怎么在一个学期内把research & 其他方面弄成exceptional? 把攒了三年的
: paper在一个学期都发了?
:
: tenure

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l*2
28

lake tahoe不在加拿大啊

【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 你以为不是?
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w*d
29
adobe: i am cool lol
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v*l
30
这些都给算啊,你学校真好。。。考虑是不是也攒几篇别急着发。

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: 是的,呵呵。
: 我毕业的时候攒了好几篇paper,拿到工作的时候稿子都投出去了,第一年就光剩修改
: 了。

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s*n
31
。。。。好吧 错了

【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
:
: lake tahoe不在加拿大啊

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a*y
32
你用什么check的youtube, youku, tudou?

all
old
OS

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: What a retard statement. Last time I checked, Youtube, youku, tudou are all
: flash sites. Are they all dead?
: It doesn't matter who is better, it's the market share that matters. The old
: ugly dianosaur called IE 6&7 are still occupying more than 25% of the
: browser market. Can you believe it?
: Steve job will be dead before flash, that's for sure. 丫有种把flash从Mac OS
: X踢出去啊?丫敢吗?

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c*o
33
但这些都是我来了半年以后才发表的,affliation都是写的现在学校的名字,当然算的!
所以有人告诉我publication是cash,不管时间地点,以后都跟着你的,但teaching就
不样了。
听听大家的看法。

【在 v***l 的大作中提到】
: 这些都给算啊,你学校真好。。。考虑是不是也攒几篇别急着发。
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G*g
34
美国最好的滑雪圣地之一。这次出去,铲雪比滑雪累。糟糕的是租的小木屋没有车库。

【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我还以为你住那儿 心想这地方下一次埋一次。。。。
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J*a
35
教主倒是想啊,osx也没有个app store 不是
flash现在是后娘养的,没法子,当年在MM的时候多好,三剑客,现在是DW,FW都要死球
了,flash也迟早要被Adobe玩死
关于市场占有率问题,只跟比尔和教主的钱包有关,跟我们用户没啥关系,有个很好的
比方:
macdonald also sells a shit load of burgers...

all
old
OS

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: What a retard statement. Last time I checked, Youtube, youku, tudou are all
: flash sites. Are they all dead?
: It doesn't matter who is better, it's the market share that matters. The old
: ugly dianosaur called IE 6&7 are still occupying more than 25% of the
: browser market. Can you believe it?
: Steve job will be dead before flash, that's for sure. 丫有种把flash从Mac OS
: X踢出去啊?丫敢吗?

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d*a
36
这是正解。一开始不好后来有很大提高,比一开始做得太好后来变差,要好得多。

【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】
: 甭管他们。3.77很不错了,而且有上升空间。如果你一开始就是5,以后一旦退步了就
: 不好了。表面上对领导要尊重,虚心就可以了,再笑笑,领导也高兴

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p*r
37
不算大错,都带“加”字

【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 。。。。好吧 错了
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J*a
38
youtube还是beta吧

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 你用什么check的youtube, youku, tudou?
:
: all
: old
: OS

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k*j
39
教学的评估弹性很大. 提高总有空间.
学术当然是自己一辈子的成果.
你们这么好的学校还猪头学生,那我们的学生都废柴了.关键要找到学生的闪光点,总有
些学生素质不错,明珠暗投,灵光乍现,你会惊喜不已.
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j*0
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a*y
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Google不是以beta著称么

【在 J********a 的大作中提到】
: youtube还是beta吧
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l*s
42
我们系最近找的几个助理教授的学生Evaluation都远超系里的Average

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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S*s
43
赞!

【在 G**********g 的大作中提到】
: 摄于Lake Tahoe。
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J*a
44
我是说youtube的html5

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: Google不是以beta著称么
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t*8
45
如果你说top 50公立大学的本科生是愚笨,你那么你自己就是个傻逼。you are fucked
up by yourself.

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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a*y
46
是beta又怎么了?

【在 J********a 的大作中提到】
: 我是说youtube的html5
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s*m
47
还是态度问题。
你试着站在学生的角度看看你这位老师,学生是否想跟你学?
如果上课或课后,没有学生来问你问题,你就要反思一下了。

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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J*a
48
有些看不了

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 是beta又怎么了?
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a*d
49
平均4.2很正常,第一学期3.77不算差。拿5分的应该是很小的班,或者是研究生课。本
科生25人以上的课想全是5,太难了。
不过你对学生的态度的确应该调整一下。top 50 public school是PSU/UT Austin/
Wisconsin这一档次的学校了,学生素质应该还不错,你大概的确需要在自己这边找找
原因。
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R*e
50
Why does it matter? Since when youtube stopped supporting flash?

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 你用什么check的youtube, youku, tudou?
:
: all
: old
: OS

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b*h
51
我第一个学期的rating是3.9左右。。。后来慢慢有点起色。It takes time.
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J*a
52
恐怕永远不会
flash是好东西,邪恶的是adobe

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Why does it matter? Since when youtube stopped supporting flash?
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c*o
53
嗯,帖子我改了,免得有些人看不惯。
我的课enrollment是全系最高的,全都注满了,每次课后, office hours人都是满满
的,当然大多数都是来讨论课上他们没懂的问题。
对于第一年的annual review我一点都不担心。chair虽然指出我teaching不足,但他一
直再说我是他见到的第一年里performance最好的ap,还经常在系里开玩笑说我是系里的star。
我就不多说,免得有人觉得我BSO。 我发帖子只是想和大家探讨一下teaching,因为以
前身边都是top school, top program的老师和学生。而且以前学校真的是大家都在拼命的比拼
publication。有一年招新人,系主任把我们几个graduate student叫去,问我们对candidate
的看法。我们正对几个candidate的教学能力讨论得热火曹天呢,系主任直接就cut off topic, 说
we don't care about teaching,当时就把我们雷晕了。
现在到这个学校确实有个过渡。我的态度和教学方法确实需要调整!

【在 s*********m 的大作中提到】
: 还是态度问题。
: 你试着站在学生的角度看看你这位老师,学生是否想跟你学?
: 如果上课或课后,没有学生来问你问题,你就要反思一下了。
:
: tenure

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a*y
54
who says youtube stopped supporting flash?
Flash is just no longer necessary or needed. That's the most important thing.

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Why does it matter? Since when youtube stopped supporting flash?
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h*e
55
说句不好听的话, 中国女ap真是一个怪异的人群. 以后要躲着远远的.

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,帖子我改了,免得有些人看不惯。
: 我的课enrollment是全系最高的,全都注满了,每次课后, office hours人都是满满
: 的,当然大多数都是来讨论课上他们没懂的问题。
: 对于第一年的annual review我一点都不担心。chair虽然指出我teaching不足,但他一
: 直再说我是他见到的第一年里performance最好的ap,还经常在系里开玩笑说我是系里的star。
: 我就不多说,免得有人觉得我BSO。 我发帖子只是想和大家探讨一下teaching,因为以
: 前身边都是top school, top program的老师和学生。而且以前学校真的是大家都在拼命的比拼
: publication。有一年招新人,系主任把我们几个graduate student叫去,问我们对candidate
: 的看法。我们正对几个candidate的教学能力讨论得热火曹天呢,系主任直接就cut off topic, 说
: we don't care about teaching,当时就把我们雷晕了。

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m*e
56

thing.
People who say this don't understand the real world.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: who says youtube stopped supporting flash?
: Flash is just no longer necessary or needed. That's the most important thing.

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c*o
57
算了,想不到这里也是火药味十足啊,你们继续讨论吧,我就不来蹚这趟浑水了。
算我来错地方了!要看不惯的话,版主,麻烦你把这个帖子删了,谢谢!
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a*y
58
the real world is
people buy iPad and iPhone
and they can watch videos on these website without flash

【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: thing.
: People who say this don't understand the real world.

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v*l
59
唉,你难道没看出来,问题就是版主都不知道哪里去了?

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: 算了,想不到这里也是火药味十足啊,你们继续讨论吧,我就不来蹚这趟浑水了。
: 算我来错地方了!要看不惯的话,版主,麻烦你把这个帖子删了,谢谢!

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R*e
60
Then youtube is a flash site. Why do 80% of the website still support flash
since it is not needed or "dead"?

thing.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: who says youtube stopped supporting flash?
: Flash is just no longer necessary or needed. That's the most important thing.

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g*s
61
商学院?
你第一年很不错了。 加油!
avatar
R*e
62
And that's about < 1% of the real world. The real world is, if youtube took
out html5 support now, nobody gives a crap. If they took out flash support
now, they are dead.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: the real world is
: people buy iPad and iPhone
: and they can watch videos on these website without flash

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b*h
63
你原帖确实有点point fingers,rating不好就拿什么学生质量不行出来说事,你同事
也教的是这样的学生,为什么人家的rating好呢? 到了后来你补充那段,更是通篇洋
溢着自己以前是top school top program的优越感,比原帖更加越描越黑。
有些回帖,话糙理不糙,你就光觉着火药味浓了,没有半点反省自己的意思。我本来前
面回帖都是鼓励的,看到你新update的一段,忍不住说说自己的意见,姑妄言之,你姑
妄听之吧。
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a*y
64
You are totally missing the point.
Why?
For example, are these video websites supporting both Flash and Silverlight?
Are they also supporting WMV, AVI, DivX, MKV, Real?
Unfortunately, they all only support Flash and HTML5 video.
If it is not Apple, they will never support HTML5. And their support for
HTML5 video means Apple did not lose anything. Adobe lost at least something.

took

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: And that's about < 1% of the real world. The real world is, if youtube took
: out html5 support now, nobody gives a crap. If they took out flash support
: now, they are dead.

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S*Y
65
不管学生怎么样,教不好都是你的错,尤其是在其他人教得好的情况下。

tenure

【在 c**********o 的大作中提到】
: first year ap, top 50 public university
: 上个月做了annual review,前两天chair给我看了他的信,找我谈了谈,据说是tenure
: track上的必经程序。
: 我的research和其他方面都是exceptional,但就是student teaching evaluation
: below average。
: NND,现在只有第一个学期的evaluation,我还觉得八错了, 3.77。可chair说系里的平
: 均是4.2,很多老师都是5,满分呢!
: 真的吗?大家的evaluation都有那么高吗?

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R*e
66
Like you ever had a point other than following Jobs tail.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: You are totally missing the point.
: Why?
: For example, are these video websites supporting both Flash and Silverlight?
: Are they also supporting WMV, AVI, DivX, MKV, Real?
: Unfortunately, they all only support Flash and HTML5 video.
: If it is not Apple, they will never support HTML5. And their support for
: HTML5 video means Apple did not lose anything. Adobe lost at least something.
:
: took

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a*y
67
Can you answer or explain this:
Are these video websites supporting both Flash and Silverlight?
Are they also supporting WMV, AVI, DivX, MKV, Real?
Unfortunately, they all only support Flash and HTML5 video.
If it is not Apple, they will never support HTML5. And their support for
HTML5 video means Apple did not lose anything. Adobe lost at least something
. And people on Mac OS X don't like Flash. We will all be happier if the
world has no flash, or if we don't have to run flash.
Now we can. Now

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Like you ever had a point other than following Jobs tail.
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m*e
68

Wow, that's a very bold statement.
I heard that Jobs actually invented Internet himself. If there were no Jobs
there would not be an Internet at all.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: Can you answer or explain this:
: Are these video websites supporting both Flash and Silverlight?
: Are they also supporting WMV, AVI, DivX, MKV, Real?
: Unfortunately, they all only support Flash and HTML5 video.
: If it is not Apple, they will never support HTML5. And their support for
: HTML5 video means Apple did not lose anything. Adobe lost at least something
: . And people on Mac OS X don't like Flash. We will all be happier if the
: world has no flash, or if we don't have to run flash.
: Now we can. Now

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y*n
69
只要在Mac上用过flash的都知道flash是多么低效。
怎么给我的感觉是lz想说是Mac的问题呢?

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: 有人用HTML5和Flash分别做了一个同样的动画,这个动画显示Flash的效能更高。
: 结果很快有人发现这个HTML5是poorly written
: 很快有人写出同样的动画但是速度更快
: 配合Javascript之后更是多个球也很快。
: 当然HTML5的canvas效能可能总体目前还是不如Flash的速度的。
: 但是总体来说大部分flash绝对比HTML5网页更消耗资源
: 只要在Mac上用过flash的都知道flash是多么低效。
: 最初的作者还说“Adobe不断raising the bar”,太可笑了。Adobe把Bar提升了这么久
: 自己还这么烂?我看这个作者就是拙劣的coder,只能靠Flash工具来写点动画,要动手
: 用HTML5来写就写的一团糟。

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a*y
70
It is the truth. Apple is the leader in HTML5 implementation.
Webkit has the most and best HTML5 support among all web browsers. iOS is
the first mobile OS that pushes for HTML5. These are enough evidence.

Jobs

【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: Wow, that's a very bold statement.
: I heard that Jobs actually invented Internet himself. If there were no Jobs
: there would not be an Internet at all.

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a*y
71
和Mac有什么直接关系?这个测试是在手机上跑HTML5和Flash。

【在 y*****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要在Mac上用过flash的都知道flash是多么低效。
: 怎么给我的感觉是lz想说是Mac的问题呢?

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R*e
72
LOL, that's pathetic. I'm sure one day when Apple make a iToilet you will
say the same thing. LOL.
Go back to the post that I initially responded. Tell me how flash is dead?
And what did exactly Adobe has lost? Every website that supported flash is
still supporting it.

something

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: Can you answer or explain this:
: Are these video websites supporting both Flash and Silverlight?
: Are they also supporting WMV, AVI, DivX, MKV, Real?
: Unfortunately, they all only support Flash and HTML5 video.
: If it is not Apple, they will never support HTML5. And their support for
: HTML5 video means Apple did not lose anything. Adobe lost at least something
: . And people on Mac OS X don't like Flash. We will all be happier if the
: world has no flash, or if we don't have to run flash.
: Now we can. Now

avatar
R*e
73
Yes, safari is such a nice browser it is stuck at pitiful 5% market share
forever.

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: It is the truth. Apple is the leader in HTML5 implementation.
: Webkit has the most and best HTML5 support among all web browsers. iOS is
: the first mobile OS that pushes for HTML5. These are enough evidence.
:
: Jobs

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a*y
74
LZ没有说flash is dead
LZ说flash和HTML5之争还在继续
LZ后来说all flash sites are dead
我想意思是(all flash) sites are dead = (flash only) sites are dead
what is flash site?
我认为楼主的观点是flash only的网站才能被成为flash site
youtube既然支持HTML5,支持webM,那么它就已经不是flash (only) site
所以你很pathetic啊。
告诉你Adobe丢失了什么,Adobe丢失了对网络视频deliver方式的独家私有格式控制权。
要是Adobe什么也不丢失,它的印度CEO还会天天whining吗?Adobe再烂,CEO至少知道
苹果强推HTML5是影响Adobe利益的,并且不断发布新闻,PR,上电视为了抵消负面影响
。你要是做Adobe的CEO恐怕Adobe早就破产了。

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: LOL, that's pathetic. I'm sure one day when Apple make a iToilet you will
: say the same thing. LOL.
: Go back to the post that I initially responded. Tell me how flash is dead?
: And what did exactly Adobe has lost? Every website that supported flash is
: still supporting it.
:
: something

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a*y
75
it is okay Safari stuck at 5%
as long as webkit continue to grow.
Also open source, Mozilla's gecko has never seen such wide adoption by
different venders. Google, RIM, Sumsung, Amazon and more are all using
webkit.

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Yes, safari is such a nice browser it is stuck at pitiful 5% market share
: forever.

avatar
A*L
76
原来Jobs也是混买买提的,还有个id叫dsb

Jobs

【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: Wow, that's a very bold statement.
: I heard that Jobs actually invented Internet himself. If there were no Jobs
: there would not be an Internet at all.

avatar
R*e
77
What makes you draw conclusion that flash only sites are dead? Just because
a few popular sites starts to support html5? Last time I checked, hulu is
still flash only. Are they dead? Thank god you're not their CEO. Or their
investers probably already committed mass suicide.
The truth is, even for the so called html5 compatible sites like youtube. It
is still a flash only site to 99.9% percent of the people. Even if they are
using html5 compatible browsers. Besides a few of you apple fan boys who

【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: LZ没有说flash is dead
: LZ说flash和HTML5之争还在继续
: LZ后来说all flash sites are dead
: 我想意思是(all flash) sites are dead = (flash only) sites are dead
: what is flash site?
: 我认为楼主的观点是flash only的网站才能被成为flash site
: youtube既然支持HTML5,支持webM,那么它就已经不是flash (only) site
: 所以你很pathetic啊。
: 告诉你Adobe丢失了什么,Adobe丢失了对网络视频deliver方式的独家私有格式控制权。
: 要是Adobe什么也不丢失,它的印度CEO还会天天whining吗?Adobe再烂,CEO至少知道

avatar
l*o
78
Wake up
Hulu has iPad app that stream using H.264 in iPad compatible wrapper
So does Netflix.

because
It
are
about

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: What makes you draw conclusion that flash only sites are dead? Just because
: a few popular sites starts to support html5? Last time I checked, hulu is
: still flash only. Are they dead? Thank god you're not their CEO. Or their
: investers probably already committed mass suicide.
: The truth is, even for the so called html5 compatible sites like youtube. It
: is still a flash only site to 99.9% percent of the people. Even if they are
: using html5 compatible browsers. Besides a few of you apple fan boys who

avatar
R*e
79
That is app, not web site. Who needs to wake up?
Yeah hulu is really gonna survive if they only scream thru iPad using that app.

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: Wake up
: Hulu has iPad app that stream using H.264 in iPad compatible wrapper
: So does Netflix.
:
: because
: It
: are
: about

avatar
l*o
80
haven't you heard app is the new website?

app.

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: That is app, not web site. Who needs to wake up?
: Yeah hulu is really gonna survive if they only scream thru iPad using that app.

avatar
R*e
81
No, I don't read St. Jobs bible every day. Haven't you heard there's a world
outside of iPad/iPhone which only counts about 0.1% of the web traffic?

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: haven't you heard app is the new website?
:
: app.

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l*o
82
why don't you say 0.001%, since you are already committed to stating the
false.
Haven't you seen all the flash blocker?
I just don't get people who 力捧垃圾。
生怕自己不够垃圾么,哈哈哈

world

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: No, I don't read St. Jobs bible every day. Haven't you heard there's a world
: outside of iPad/iPhone which only counts about 0.1% of the web traffic?

avatar
R*e
83
Yeah it's really a huge difference be it 0.0001% or 1%.
I never said flash is good. But it is far from dead, which you're claiming
falsely. Flash blocker is to block the content. I'm sure when html5 flashy
ads floating around all over the web crawling up you CPU, it will be as bad
as flash. There will surely be html5 animation/video blockers.
I'm just really getting a kick out of the little fantasy world you apple fan
boys are living. Damn, let Apple make an iToilet and relieve us from all
the b

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: why don't you say 0.001%, since you are already committed to stating the
: false.
: Haven't you seen all the flash blocker?
: I just don't get people who 力捧垃圾。
: 生怕自己不够垃圾么,哈哈哈
:
: world

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l*o
84
Flash is dead.
Flash is dead.
Flash is dead.
Flash is dead.
Yes HTML5 animation ads could be as bad as flash ads.
For bad things, we have adblock, clicktoflash
Flash is bad.
I want it dead.
So I will repeat 1000 times.
Flash is dead.
Flash is dead.
Flash is dead.
.....
Even it is not dead yet, it will be dead, probably soon enough. Hail to the
death of Flash!!

bad
fan

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Yeah it's really a huge difference be it 0.0001% or 1%.
: I never said flash is good. But it is far from dead, which you're claiming
: falsely. Flash blocker is to block the content. I'm sure when html5 flashy
: ads floating around all over the web crawling up you CPU, it will be as bad
: as flash. There will surely be html5 animation/video blockers.
: I'm just really getting a kick out of the little fantasy world you apple fan
: boys are living. Damn, let Apple make an iToilet and relieve us from all
: the b

avatar
R*e
85
Let me guess, just got back from bible study? hehe

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: Flash is dead.
: Flash is dead.
: Flash is dead.
: Flash is dead.
: Yes HTML5 animation ads could be as bad as flash ads.
: For bad things, we have adblock, clicktoflash
: Flash is bad.
: I want it dead.
: So I will repeat 1000 times.
: Flash is dead.

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l*o
86
That's all you got, sadly.

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Let me guess, just got back from bible study? hehe
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R*e
87
Well, I've got enough kicks tonight, thanks for the entertainment. I'll come
back when I'm really bored. hehe.

【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: That's all you got, sadly.
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l*o
88
I guess that's why you seem to be a very boring person.

come

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: Well, I've got enough kicks tonight, thanks for the entertainment. I'll come
: back when I'm really bored. hehe.

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