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MIni车主都来吐槽血泪修车史吧!!!身短体娇爱花钱,mini让你没法闲!!!# Automobile - 车轮上的传奇
f*e
1
公司的FA看起来不错,14年的dividend要增加,在pipeline transpoftation 方面处于
领先地位,最近半年股价都在consolidation,目前处于52周最低价附近,是个好入
点。几乎所有的分析都推荐buy, 并且风险低。
个人看法,欢迎评论,后果自负,赚了发包。
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a*1
2
前mini车主吐槽残酷修车史+黑心韩棒欺负新买手
车是好车,前提的有warranty+新车,开起来才能无忧无虑,质保之后的mini你就只能
跪天拜地保佑他不出毛病,否则就有一就有二,有二就3456789.。。。。。。。。。。
。。。
前几年还是小留,人生第一辆车就是mini,那叫一个开心,车小好停操纵棒,平安开了
7000多迈后就开始各种毛病,啥coolant管子破都不算事儿了,各种gasket不密封,悬
挂也出毛病,最后transmission也罢工了。。。。身边凡是买mini的都一样修修修。。
。。大修小补加起来也有个近2000刀,买车也才9000多,学生党真心修不起了,终于下
决心和它88,也不想祸害别人了,trade in吧,能拿多少是多少,好歹处女车。。。
死棒子大叔就不说了,看学生没经验好骗吧,看在和mini一起开过那么久的高速上也就
不说了。。。。
虽然各种修各种嫌弃,但是mini开起来真心爽!
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y*k
3
多谢。想问一下,像这种dividend play,一般是什么样的策略?比如:
1. 准备拿多长时间?
2.如果它是在40-48之间range。它若到48,你是卖掉呢?还是一直拿着赚dividend?
3.如果它跌破39.5,要不要cut loss?
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T*s
4
你的说法与老色狼不符
老色狼说他的三手mini十万迈免维护

前mini车主吐槽残酷修车史+黑心韩棒欺负新买手
车是好车,前提的有warranty+新车,开起来才能无忧无虑,质保之后的mini你就只能
跪天拜地保佑他不出毛病,否则就有一就有二,有二就3456789.。。。。。。。。。。
。。。
前几年还是小留,人生第一辆车就是mini,那叫一个开心,车小好停操纵棒,平安开了
7000多迈后就开始各种毛病,啥coolant管子破都不算事儿了,各种gasket不密封,悬
挂也出毛病,最后transmission也罢工了。。。。身边凡是买mini的都一样修修修。。
。。大修小补加起来也有个近2000刀,买车也才9000多,学生党真心修不起了,终于下
决心和它88,也不想祸害别人了,trade in吧,能拿多少是多少,好歹处女车。。。
死棒子大叔就不说了,看学生没经验好骗吧,看在和mini一起开过那么久的高速上也就
不说了。。。。
虽然各种修各种嫌弃,但是mini开起来真心爽!

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 前mini车主吐槽残酷修车史+黑心韩棒欺负新买手
: 车是好车,前提的有warranty+新车,开起来才能无忧无虑,质保之后的mini你就只能
: 跪天拜地保佑他不出毛病,否则就有一就有二,有二就3456789.。。。。。。。。。。
: 。。。
: 前几年还是小留,人生第一辆车就是mini,那叫一个开心,车小好停操纵棒,平安开了
: 7000多迈后就开始各种毛病,啥coolant管子破都不算事儿了,各种gasket不密封,悬
: 挂也出毛病,最后transmission也罢工了。。。。身边凡是买mini的都一样修修修。。
: 。。大修小补加起来也有个近2000刀,买车也才9000多,学生党真心修不起了,终于下
: 决心和它88,也不想祸害别人了,trade in吧,能拿多少是多少,好歹处女车。。。
: 死棒子大叔就不说了,看学生没经验好骗吧,看在和mini一起开过那么久的高速上也就

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m*e
5
我看的分析报告都不看好ENB,都是reduce, sell, avoid。这个公司从一些基本的价值
标准看和同行业相比,股价处于偏高的位置。
ENB seems expensive with a PEG value of 4.0353, above the Oil, Gas &
Consumable Fuels industry median PEG of 2.28, which is supported by a PE of
56.0913 that is also above the industry median of 19.86.
ENA : P/B=4.45, much bigger than industry avg. For example: XOM P/B=2.47
这个公司主要是大家拿搞油沙田的,最近倒是十分野心勃勃,13年第3季度投了40亿刀
搞油沙,在未来4年还要投360亿刀。这个战略看上去是挺庞大的,如果未来几年油价大
涨涨过07年的水平,那这个公司肯定大发。但是如果油价涨得不是那么高,投资收益风
险就很大了。
所以我觉得你说这个风险小,几乎所有的分析都推荐buy。至少我这里的看的说得都跟
你相反。
Research Team: Reduce
Ford Equity: Sell
Market Edge: Avoid
Zacks:Hold (rank3)
The Street: Hold
不过如果你预计以后大家拿的油沙田大有前途,油价要疯涨,这个股票是可以的。

【在 f******e 的大作中提到】
: 公司的FA看起来不错,14年的dividend要增加,在pipeline transpoftation 方面处于
: 领先地位,最近半年股价都在consolidation,目前处于52周最低价附近,是个好入
: 点。几乎所有的分析都推荐buy, 并且风险低。
: 个人看法,欢迎评论,后果自负,赚了发包。

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a*1
6
呵呵。。。。得了吧也就自己做梦呢。。。。。

【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: 你的说法与老色狼不符
: 老色狼说他的三手mini十万迈免维护
:
: 前mini车主吐槽残酷修车史+黑心韩棒欺负新买手
: 车是好车,前提的有warranty+新车,开起来才能无忧无虑,质保之后的mini你就只能
: 跪天拜地保佑他不出毛病,否则就有一就有二,有二就3456789.。。。。。。。。。。
: 。。。
: 前几年还是小留,人生第一辆车就是mini,那叫一个开心,车小好停操纵棒,平安开了
: 7000多迈后就开始各种毛病,啥coolant管子破都不算事儿了,各种gasket不密封,悬
: 挂也出毛病,最后transmission也罢工了。。。。身边凡是买mini的都一样修修修。。

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f*e
7
看来我们活在不同的世界,我的报告来源mormingstar, masdaq, marketwatch, msn
money, 等 一部分还是付费的。能share你的来源吗?不是质疑你, 大家讨论一下才看
的更清

of

【在 m******e 的大作中提到】
: 我看的分析报告都不看好ENB,都是reduce, sell, avoid。这个公司从一些基本的价值
: 标准看和同行业相比,股价处于偏高的位置。
: ENB seems expensive with a PEG value of 4.0353, above the Oil, Gas &
: Consumable Fuels industry median PEG of 2.28, which is supported by a PE of
: 56.0913 that is also above the industry median of 19.86.
: ENA : P/B=4.45, much bigger than industry avg. For example: XOM P/B=2.47
: 这个公司主要是大家拿搞油沙田的,最近倒是十分野心勃勃,13年第3季度投了40亿刀
: 搞油沙,在未来4年还要投360亿刀。这个战略看上去是挺庞大的,如果未来几年油价大
: 涨涨过07年的水平,那这个公司肯定大发。但是如果油价涨得不是那么高,投资收益风
: 险就很大了。

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a*o
8
真正的mini lover必须买手动的。手动能减少你一大半问题。

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵。。。。得了吧也就自己做梦呢。。。。。
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m*e
9
我在TD Ameritrade开的户,就可以看一些分析师的报告,或是打折买一些分析报告。
我看得评分就是这些公司的
Research Team: Reduce
Ford Equity: Sell
Market Edge: Avoid
Zacks:Hold (rank3)
The Street: Hold
这些只是一个参考,还要看他价值方面的一些数据以及和本行业这些数据的比较。还要
看公司近期和未来的重大发展战略,这些可以在它自己的年报里看到。其实年报里很关
键的还有负债和现金流这些的,但我不太懂会计,知道一点大概。
我个人感觉这个公司风险没你说得那没小,而且价格偏高。我也刚开始买卖股票,初学
经验很少。不过这是我个人的一点看法,错误还望见諒。

【在 f******e 的大作中提到】
: 看来我们活在不同的世界,我的报告来源mormingstar, masdaq, marketwatch, msn
: money, 等 一部分还是付费的。能share你的来源吗?不是质疑你, 大家讨论一下才看
: 的更清
:
: of

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a*1
10
新手还开手动,真心学不来,不想当马路杀手。。。。

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: 真正的mini lover必须买手动的。手动能减少你一大半问题。
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F*g
11
同意。这种公司没得和xom和cvx比,自己没有大油田和附属的下游炼油。

of

【在 m******e 的大作中提到】
: 我看的分析报告都不看好ENB,都是reduce, sell, avoid。这个公司从一些基本的价值
: 标准看和同行业相比,股价处于偏高的位置。
: ENB seems expensive with a PEG value of 4.0353, above the Oil, Gas &
: Consumable Fuels industry median PEG of 2.28, which is supported by a PE of
: 56.0913 that is also above the industry median of 19.86.
: ENA : P/B=4.45, much bigger than industry avg. For example: XOM P/B=2.47
: 这个公司主要是大家拿搞油沙田的,最近倒是十分野心勃勃,13年第3季度投了40亿刀
: 搞油沙,在未来4年还要投360亿刀。这个战略看上去是挺庞大的,如果未来几年油价大
: 涨涨过07年的水平,那这个公司肯定大发。但是如果油价涨得不是那么高,投资收益风
: 险就很大了。

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a*o
12
你说这话说明你真是新手。 统计表明手动车事故是自动车的65%。
自动档很容易操作失误,国内几乎每天都有新司机踩错刹车横扫一片的,记得深圳机场
的大奔吗。
手动车是不可能油门刹车踩错的。

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 新手还开手动,真心学不来,不想当马路杀手。。。。
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m*e
13
This morning ENB just lost 0.43 cents, i.e., -1.04%. There is a negative
news report juct coming out this morning regarding environmental concerns
against Canadian Oil firms' latest expansion plan.
main excerpt on ENB
Quote "Enbridge Inc. (ENB, ENB.T) faces a wall of aboriginal opposition to
its proposed Northern Gateway pipeline in British Columbia"
Companies Struggle to Balance Aboriginal Needs and Industry -- Globe & Mail
8:15a ET December 9, 2013 (Dow Jones)
Companies Struggle to Balance Aboriginal Needs and Industry -- Globe & Mail
(This article was originally published Sunday.)
(From Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper, December 9 edition.)
By Shawn McCarthy
Of THE GLOBE AND MAIL
OTTAWA (Globe and Mail)--On its 4,000-kilometre path across the country,
TransCanada Corp.'s (TRP, TRP.T) Energy East's pipeline would traverse the
traditional territory of 180 different aboriginal communities, each of whom
must be consulted and have their concerns accommodated as part of the
company's effort at winning project approval.
The Energy East plan is to bring 1.1 million barrels per day of western
crude to eastern Canadian refineries and export terminals; it has been
touted by politicians and its proponents as a nation-building exercise, and
by industry as providing access to new markets for landlocked crude.
But native leaders want to ensure that they see some benefits from the C$12
billion project and they could present a challenging obstacle to its
completion if they feel excluded. On Tuesday, First Nations leaders
gathering in Gatineau, Que., will launch an effort to devise their own
national energy strategy.
Calgary-based TransCanada has hired Phil Fontaine--former national chief of
the Assembly of First Nations--to help it win the support of native
communities from Alberta to New Brunswick.
TransCanada is just the latest company to grapple with the challenge of how
to work with aboriginal Canadians to develop pipelines, oil and gas
projects, mines and electricity generation, while maintaining the commercial
focus on speedy execution and cost control.
The country is at a critical juncture in relations between government,
industry and aboriginal communities. The federal government estimates there
is C$650 billion worth of resource projects to be developed in the next
decade, and virtually all of them are in areas claimed by various aboriginal
groups as part of their traditional lands.
Native leaders are demanding to be treated as not just another stakeholder
group but as full partners who have treaty rights that must be respected and
historical grievances that must be addressed. But they often don't have the
capacity to be properly engaged in the process, sometimes lacking business
acumen, an educated work force or financial resources needed to prosper in a
modern economy.
And industry is now being asked to fill gaps left by government--an
uncomfortable position for many companies that simply want to win quick
approval for a project.
Resource companies have seen what happens when things go badly. Enbridge
Inc. (ENB, ENB.T) faces a wall of aboriginal opposition to its proposed
Northern Gateway pipeline in British Columbia; First Nations have blocked
logging roads in Quebec and mining roads in Ontario and activists have
disrupted Southwestern Energy Co.'s (SWN) shale-gas exploration in
opposition to fracking on their traditional territory in New Brunswick.
"We are not anti-business," Mr. Fontaine said at recent conference in
Toronto, organized by the University of Waterloo's School of Environment,
Enterprise and Development. "But development will not occur unless
aboriginal people have been engaged, consulted in a proper way, and there is
an accommodation of aboriginal interests."
Working with Mr. Fontaine, TransCanada has begun that process with the 180
aboriginal communities along its Energy East path. He acknowledged that
pipeline companies face a special problem because the projects are linear
and involve far more communities than a mine or oil sands project would
touch.
"The important challenge we have now is to inform communities about the
Energy East project," he said. "You can be certain there won't be a single
conversation or discussion that takes places that doesn't make some
reference to benefits."
TransCanada spokesman Philippe Cannon said it is too early to say what the
benefits package would look like, and whether it would include an equity
stake, as Enbridge has offered with its Northern Gateway project.
Former prime minister Paul Martin has taken up the cause of aboriginal
education, arguing improved schooling is a fundamental prerequisite to First
Nations' participation in the resource economy, and that business must be
involved in addressing the appalling educational deficit that exists on
reserves.
For resources industries that complain of skills shortages, the young
aboriginal population--the fastest growing demographic in the country--
represents a key pool of labor that can only be fully utilized if education
is dramatically improved, Mr. Martin told the Toronto conference.
"Under-funding of grade school and high school is the single most important
dagger drawn at the heart of aboriginal communities across this country,"
he said.
Mr. Martin urged resource companies to lobby the federal government to
address chronic under-funding of on-reserve education.
Oil and gas companies are increasingly recognizing that they have to do
more than simply negotiate a traditional benefits package with aboriginal
communities impacted by their projects, said David Collyer, president of the
Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.
"It is an area we are involved in now," Mr. Collyer said. "But we probably
can do more and should do more in terms of training and development of
aboriginal people. But it is not industry's sole responsibility--governments
have to play a role as well."
Denise Restoule is chief at the Dokis First Nation on the French River in
Northern Ontario, where the band is partnering with power company Hydromega
to develop a 10-megawatt run-of-river electricity project, backed by a 40-
year purchase agreement with the Ontario Power Authority.
It took many years--and several different band councils--to conclude an
agreement on the deal, as the Dokis people lacked a basic understanding of
project development and financing. Once completed, the hydro contract will
provide a steady stream of income to the 1,200-person band, which will be
set aside in a trust fund to finance education and business development. It
has a 40% equity stake in the Okikendawt Hydroelectric Project.
Ms. Restoule said the developers had to be patient and work to understand
the culture and political realities of the reserve to succeed.
"The developer needs to develop a relationship with the First Nation, and
not just send some documents and say you've been consulted," she said in an
interview. "They need to understand their values and what is important to
them. And once they understand where the community is at, then real
discussions can start to work on developing a real partnership."
www.theglobeandmail.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
December 09, 2013 08:15 ET (13:15 GMT)DN201312090039842013-12-09 13:15:00.
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Print【 在 FKlidading (fk_leedading) 的大作中提到: 】
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T*u
14
我以前开2手的手动R53,刹车/轮胎/轴承都出毛病,有一段时间排档重得要死,过了两
个礼拜没修它自己好了。没备胎
买进时40K,开了一年多,卖出时60K

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: 真正的mini lover必须买手动的。手动能减少你一大半问题。
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s*m
15
关门,放老色狼
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t*d
16
新手别买mini,mini这种fun car不上手动少了一半乐趣

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 新手还开手动,真心学不来,不想当马路杀手。。。。
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m*d
17
还叫老色狼,不就是太公吗

【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: 你的说法与老色狼不符
: 老色狼说他的三手mini十万迈免维护
:
: 前mini车主吐槽残酷修车史+黑心韩棒欺负新买手
: 车是好车,前提的有warranty+新车,开起来才能无忧无虑,质保之后的mini你就只能
: 跪天拜地保佑他不出毛病,否则就有一就有二,有二就3456789.。。。。。。。。。。
: 。。。
: 前几年还是小留,人生第一辆车就是mini,那叫一个开心,车小好停操纵棒,平安开了
: 7000多迈后就开始各种毛病,啥coolant管子破都不算事儿了,各种gasket不密封,悬
: 挂也出毛病,最后transmission也罢工了。。。。身边凡是买mini的都一样修修修。。

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a*o
18
我买二手车都尽量买手动的,几千块买个自动档,一旦tranny坏了就鸡肋了。
dfbb的手动车你几乎可以开到永远,因为发动机是车里面寿命最长的。

【在 T***u 的大作中提到】
: 我以前开2手的手动R53,刹车/轮胎/轴承都出毛病,有一段时间排档重得要死,过了两
: 个礼拜没修它自己好了。没备胎
: 买进时40K,开了一年多,卖出时60K

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a*1
19
主要是当时便宜车小与众不同,开出去太可爱了

【在 t****d 的大作中提到】
: 新手别买mini,mini这种fun car不上手动少了一半乐趣
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W*n
20
I would rather spend a little bit more
to buy a base Mustang
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d*e
21
上坡起步熄火还敢称“驾驶技术很棒”?
而且如果是有hill assist的MINI,那简直就是丢死人了

身边有朋友是买手动的,驾驶技术很棒,奈何常常上坡起步熄火。。。。so。。。。。

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 主要是当时便宜车小与众不同,开出去太可爱了
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a*1
22
Too big too muscle to control

I would rather spend a little bit moreto buy a base Mustang

【在 W***n 的大作中提到】
: I would rather spend a little bit more
: to buy a base Mustang

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W*n
23

That's a little bit true (for ladies).
The mini is quite a bit feminine.
But, I don't see why a woman could not drive a Mustang.
It's much more fun.

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: Too big too muscle to control
:
: I would rather spend a little bit moreto buy a base Mustang

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z*o
25
不在保修的时候都换一遍?
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a*2
26
当年太公被逼急了就想挑辆最冷门mini说自己开,很不巧mini屡屡被推上风口浪尖。
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a*o
27
mini是典型德国车,设计很丰满,现实很骨感,简单说就是德国车毛病基本全了。

【在 a****2 的大作中提到】
: 当年太公被逼急了就想挑辆最冷门mini说自己开,很不巧mini屡屡被推上风口浪尖。
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h*0
28
悬挂都出问题了,开起来还爽?

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 前mini车主吐槽残酷修车史+黑心韩棒欺负新买手
: 车是好车,前提的有warranty+新车,开起来才能无忧无虑,质保之后的mini你就只能
: 跪天拜地保佑他不出毛病,否则就有一就有二,有二就3456789.。。。。。。。。。。
: 。。。
: 前几年还是小留,人生第一辆车就是mini,那叫一个开心,车小好停操纵棒,平安开了
: 7000多迈后就开始各种毛病,啥coolant管子破都不算事儿了,各种gasket不密封,悬
: 挂也出毛病,最后transmission也罢工了。。。。身边凡是买mini的都一样修修修。。
: 。。大修小补加起来也有个近2000刀,买车也才9000多,学生党真心修不起了,终于下
: 决心和它88,也不想祸害别人了,trade in吧,能拿多少是多少,好歹处女车。。。
: 死棒子大叔就不说了,看学生没经验好骗吧,看在和mini一起开过那么久的高速上也就

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a*1
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难道不是英国车?虽被Bmw收购,但还是英伦精髓吧

mini是典型德国车,设计很丰满,现实很骨感,简单说就是德国车毛病基本全了。

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: mini是典型德国车,设计很丰满,现实很骨感,简单说就是德国车毛病基本全了。
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a*1
30
渐渐老化,并非一下子大毛病

悬挂都出问题了,开起来还爽?
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a*1
31
买来已过质保,二手车了

不在保修的时候都换一遍?

【在 z*******o 的大作中提到】
: 不在保修的时候都换一遍?
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s*u
33
他是日托,黑英国车意义不大,只有黑德国车才有意义

【在 a********1 的大作中提到】
: 难道不是英国车?虽被Bmw收购,但还是英伦精髓吧
:
: mini是典型德国车,设计很丰满,现实很骨感,简单说就是德国车毛病基本全了。

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y*4
34
mini的配件很廉价,很多都有design flaw,最典型的电磁阀和timing chain,基本上
十万miles以后一定会出问题。各种坏。
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a*1
35
估计觉得mini车主都是手工达人,能自己修吧

【在 y********4 的大作中提到】
: mini的配件很廉价,很多都有design flaw,最典型的电磁阀和timing chain,基本上
: 十万miles以后一定会出问题。各种坏。

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