k*n
2 楼
就是容量小了点
60G的啥时候进60刀我就买了当系统盘
60G的啥时候进60刀我就买了当系统盘
b*k
3 楼
刚发现自己怀孕了 可是下个月本来计划要做一些lentivirus的实验 请问lentivirus对
孕妇/孩子有影响么。。那murine retrovirus呢？google了还没查到 谢谢啦
孕妇/孩子有影响么。。那murine retrovirus呢？google了还没查到 谢谢啦
t*g
4 楼
你可以进两个，raid0了做系统盘。
【在 k*****n 的大作中提到】
: 就是容量小了点
: 60G的啥时候进60刀我就买了当系统盘
【在 k*****n 的大作中提到】
: 就是容量小了点
: 60G的啥时候进60刀我就买了当系统盘
m*7
5 楼
只要你严格遵守操作规程，就应该是安全的。
“murine retrovirus”已经说明了tropism, 就更没问题了。
“murine retrovirus”已经说明了tropism, 就更没问题了。
r*e
6 楼
30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
150刀，实际还便宜。
【在 k*****n 的大作中提到】
: 就是容量小了点
: 60G的啥时候进60刀我就买了当系统盘
150刀，实际还便宜。
【在 k*****n 的大作中提到】
: 就是容量小了点
: 60G的啥时候进60刀我就买了当系统盘
h*u
7 楼
I also suggest to ask your doctors.
【在 b******k 的大作中提到】
: 刚发现自己怀孕了 可是下个月本来计划要做一些lentivirus的实验 请问lentivirus对
: 孕妇/孩子有影响么。。那murine retrovirus呢？google了还没查到 谢谢啦
【在 b******k 的大作中提到】
: 刚发现自己怀孕了 可是下个月本来计划要做一些lentivirus的实验 请问lentivirus对
: 孕妇/孩子有影响么。。那murine retrovirus呢？google了还没查到 谢谢啦
n*y
8 楼
没错，很一般的deal
容量太小了速度就会慢
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
容量太小了速度就会慢
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
p*d
9 楼
按照操作规则就应该没有问题。本身lenti就已经把病毒的成分分散在多个质粒体系中
了，出现感染性变异的可能性就非常非常小了。加上严格的操作隔离，是不会有问题的
。当然，建议你在做之前，把lenti的操作规则熟悉清楚，包括个人的防护，废物废液
的处理等等。
了，出现感染性变异的可能性就非常非常小了。加上严格的操作隔离，是不会有问题的
。当然，建议你在做之前，把lenti的操作规则熟悉清楚，包括个人的防护，废物废液
的处理等等。
k*n
10 楼
是啊，Rebate我现在越来越不想弄了
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
g*1
11 楼
反正作virus肯定对胎儿没有好处，那就别作了呗。不就是九个月嘛，很快就过去了，
尽量给自己放个大假，少做实验，多休息，人为本嘛。。。
尽量给自己放个大假，少做实验，多休息，人为本嘛。。。
t*e
12 楼
agree
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
m*t
13 楼
有trim吗？
f*u
14 楼
two 30GB RAID 0 give you 60GB and is way faster than X18m, that x18m is G1 and
doesn't suppport trim at all.
But this SSD supports both trim and garbage collection in FW,
garbage collection even works in raid.
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
doesn't suppport trim at all.
But this SSD supports both trim and garbage collection in FW,
garbage collection even works in raid.
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 30G 69刀很一般，而且还要处理ocz rebate。前几天那个x18M，速度快多了， 80Gb，
: 150刀，实际还便宜。
n*y
15 楼
sold out le
d*0
16 楼
不如以前kingston V 40G $85, no rebate
h*n
17 楼
trim在raid work吗?
and
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: two 30GB RAID 0 give you 60GB and is way faster than X18m, that x18m is G1 and
: doesn't suppport trim at all.
: But this SSD supports both trim and garbage collection in FW,
: garbage collection even works in raid.
and
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: two 30GB RAID 0 give you 60GB and is way faster than X18m, that x18m is G1 and
: doesn't suppport trim at all.
: But this SSD supports both trim and garbage collection in FW,
: garbage collection even works in raid.
f*u
18 楼
I don't think current FW supports trim in raid.
But garbarge collection should work like trim
【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: trim在raid work吗?
:
: and
But garbarge collection should work like trim
【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: trim在raid work吗?
:
: and
t*t
19 楼
+1
【在 n**y 的大作中提到】
: 没错，很一般的deal
: 容量太小了速度就会慢
【在 n**y 的大作中提到】
: 没错，很一般的deal
: 容量太小了速度就会慢
r*e
20 楼
随即读写还是比不过intel的x18M or x25M，显然intel的更适合做系统盘，况且也不是
笔记本都能上raid0双硬盘的。这个估计都不如x25v的4k读写。raid0，双硬盘也只能当
30gb用吧
and
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: two 30GB RAID 0 give you 60GB and is way faster than X18m, that x18m is G1 and
: doesn't suppport trim at all.
: But this SSD supports both trim and garbage collection in FW,
: garbage collection even works in raid.
笔记本都能上raid0双硬盘的。这个估计都不如x25v的4k读写。raid0，双硬盘也只能当
30gb用吧
and
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: two 30GB RAID 0 give you 60GB and is way faster than X18m, that x18m is G1 and
: doesn't suppport trim at all.
: But this SSD supports both trim and garbage collection in FW,
: garbage collection even works in raid.
p*j
21 楼
还是要看读写速度吧，一般都够把系统装上
f*u
22 楼
You can check the review online about OCZ 30GB raid0.
It's a lot faster than X25m, even random access, probably due to 64mb buffer.
2*30GB raid0 is 60GB, raid1 is 30GB.
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 随即读写还是比不过intel的x18M or x25M，显然intel的更适合做系统盘，况且也不是
: 笔记本都能上raid0双硬盘的。这个估计都不如x25v的4k读写。raid0，双硬盘也只能当
: 30gb用吧
:
: and
It's a lot faster than X25m, even random access, probably due to 64mb buffer.
2*30GB raid0 is 60GB, raid1 is 30GB.
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 随即读写还是比不过intel的x18M or x25M，显然intel的更适合做系统盘，况且也不是
: 笔记本都能上raid0双硬盘的。这个估计都不如x25v的4k读写。raid0，双硬盘也只能当
: 30gb用吧
:
: and
r*e
23 楼
哦？ 贴个crystal的mark看看
buffer.
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: You can check the review online about OCZ 30GB raid0.
: It's a lot faster than X25m, even random access, probably due to 64mb buffer.
: 2*30GB raid0 is 60GB, raid1 is 30GB.
buffer.
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: You can check the review online about OCZ 30GB raid0.
: It's a lot faster than X25m, even random access, probably due to 64mb buffer.
: 2*30GB raid0 is 60GB, raid1 is 30GB.
f*u
24 楼
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?69464-ATTO-Benchmark-Results-(post-yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
Check this out, all good stuff, due to the large 64mb buffer, it can boost
perf by 4x
in some writing.
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 哦？ 贴个crystal的mark看看
:
: buffer.
Check this out, all good stuff, due to the large 64mb buffer, it can boost
perf by 4x
in some writing.
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 哦？ 贴个crystal的mark看看
:
: buffer.
r*e
25 楼
从你贴的数字来看4快30gb ocz raid0 4k的读不到1块intel x25M速度2倍，这么推算，
就是2快ocz raid0也不如一块x25m 4k读快， 2k，1k更不如了，做系统盘还是随机读
写重要，intel ssd这个是强项，而且不少本子永不了双硬盘，没法raid0。
yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?69464-ATTO-Benchmark-Results-(post-yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
: Check this out, all good stuff, due to the large 64mb buffer, it can boost
: perf by 4x
: in some writing.
就是2快ocz raid0也不如一块x25m 4k读快， 2k，1k更不如了，做系统盘还是随机读
写重要，intel ssd这个是强项，而且不少本子永不了双硬盘，没法raid0。
yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?69464-ATTO-Benchmark-Results-(post-yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
: Check this out, all good stuff, due to the large 64mb buffer, it can boost
: perf by 4x
: in some writing.
f*u
26 楼
First, your calculation about raid0 is incorrect, check this out:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0
In the link I posted early, there is benchmark for 2*30GB raid0.
Although x25m 4k write is very nice, but still can't beat this raid0
and the system perf is not all about 4K, once it exceeds certain level,
it doesn't matter at all in general use.
And don't underestimate the 64mb buffer in this SSD, it help a lot in small writes,
especailly in raid0
I have X301 with X18m G2, it's not that fa
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 从你贴的数字来看4快30gb ocz raid0 4k的读不到1块intel x25M速度2倍，这么推算，
: 就是2快ocz raid0也不如一块x25m 4k读快， 2k，1k更不如了，做系统盘还是随机读
: 写重要，intel ssd这个是强项，而且不少本子永不了双硬盘，没法raid0。
:
: yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0
In the link I posted early, there is benchmark for 2*30GB raid0.
Although x25m 4k write is very nice, but still can't beat this raid0
and the system perf is not all about 4K, once it exceeds certain level,
it doesn't matter at all in general use.
And don't underestimate the 64mb buffer in this SSD, it help a lot in small writes,
especailly in raid0
I have X301 with X18m G2, it's not that fa
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 从你贴的数字来看4快30gb ocz raid0 4k的读不到1块intel x25M速度2倍，这么推算，
: 就是2快ocz raid0也不如一块x25m 4k读快， 2k，1k更不如了，做系统盘还是随机读
: 写重要，intel ssd这个是强项，而且不少本子永不了双硬盘，没法raid0。
:
: yours)&s=bd5c344b34b5fefea5e6d9ab7e2d8fde
r*e
27 楼
no，你贴那个benchmark 4块盘 raid0，4k读win7下分数才179xxx。x25m和x18m在
win7下是97xxx，2x30gb的raid0不如一块x25m快呀，你得相同OS比较才有意义，后
来有个xp下2块盘raid0的分数比win7下4块盘raid0都高显然不靠谱。
small writes,
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: First, your calculation about raid0 is incorrect, check this out:
: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0
: In the link I posted early, there is benchmark for 2*30GB raid0.
: Although x25m 4k write is very nice, but still can't beat this raid0
: and the system perf is not all about 4K, once it exceeds certain level,
: it doesn't matter at all in general use.
: And don't underestimate the 64mb buffer in this SSD, it help a lot in small writes,
: especailly in raid0
: I have X301 with X18m G2, it's not that fa
win7下是97xxx，2x30gb的raid0不如一块x25m快呀，你得相同OS比较才有意义，后
来有个xp下2块盘raid0的分数比win7下4块盘raid0都高显然不靠谱。
small writes,
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: First, your calculation about raid0 is incorrect, check this out:
: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0
: In the link I posted early, there is benchmark for 2*30GB raid0.
: Although x25m 4k write is very nice, but still can't beat this raid0
: and the system perf is not all about 4K, once it exceeds certain level,
: it doesn't matter at all in general use.
: And don't underestimate the 64mb buffer in this SSD, it help a lot in small writes,
: especailly in raid0
: I have X301 with X18m G2, it's not that fa
p*e
28 楼
笔记本支持raid0的是少数吧
更何况好不容易多了个硬盘位,还不赶紧放个大数据盘上去
俩硬盘加起来容量才60g,还都是ssd,raid0,数据放里面太让人不放心了.
small writes,
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: First, your calculation about raid0 is incorrect, check this out:
: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0
: In the link I posted early, there is benchmark for 2*30GB raid0.
: Although x25m 4k write is very nice, but still can't beat this raid0
: and the system perf is not all about 4K, once it exceeds certain level,
: it doesn't matter at all in general use.
: And don't underestimate the 64mb buffer in this SSD, it help a lot in small writes,
: especailly in raid0
: I have X301 with X18m G2, it's not that fa
更何况好不容易多了个硬盘位,还不赶紧放个大数据盘上去
俩硬盘加起来容量才60g,还都是ssd,raid0,数据放里面太让人不放心了.
small writes,
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: First, your calculation about raid0 is incorrect, check this out:
: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0
: In the link I posted early, there is benchmark for 2*30GB raid0.
: Although x25m 4k write is very nice, but still can't beat this raid0
: and the system perf is not all about 4K, once it exceeds certain level,
: it doesn't matter at all in general use.
: And don't underestimate the 64mb buffer in this SSD, it help a lot in small writes,
: especailly in raid0
: I have X301 with X18m G2, it's not that fa
s*8
29 楼
rebate最猥琐了，弄得人心很烦。信誉好的还好，就怕遇到无赖。
c*m
30 楼
hehe,就ssd raid0不raid0毫无意义。
如果不是netbook,如果你要上win7还准备装些大软件，
那30G ssd做win7系统盘绝对不够。
SSD现在的很大瓶颈是容量/价钱，所以同上假设，如果笔记本上有两个槽你要上2x小容
量的SSD做raid0,那只能说是脑残。2x30g做raid0当系统盘在台式机上还有点意义.
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】
: 笔记本支持raid0的是少数吧
: 更何况好不容易多了个硬盘位,还不赶紧放个大数据盘上去
: 俩硬盘加起来容量才60g,还都是ssd,raid0,数据放里面太让人不放心了.
:
: small writes,
如果不是netbook,如果你要上win7还准备装些大软件，
那30G ssd做win7系统盘绝对不够。
SSD现在的很大瓶颈是容量/价钱，所以同上假设，如果笔记本上有两个槽你要上2x小容
量的SSD做raid0,那只能说是脑残。2x30g做raid0当系统盘在台式机上还有点意义.
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】
: 笔记本支持raid0的是少数吧
: 更何况好不容易多了个硬盘位,还不赶紧放个大数据盘上去
: 俩硬盘加起来容量才60g,还都是ssd,raid0,数据放里面太让人不放心了.
:
: small writes,
j*e
31 楼
ssd自己做raid0有啥实际用处吗 对我们个人来说 除了看得分高点？
还不如搞大点内存，OS直接装内存好了 肯定比ssd raid0块
还不如搞大点内存，OS直接装内存好了 肯定比ssd raid0块
t*t
32 楼
OS怎样才能安装到内存里？
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: ssd自己做raid0有啥实际用处吗 对我们个人来说 除了看得分高点？
: 还不如搞大点内存，OS直接装内存好了 肯定比ssd raid0块
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: ssd自己做raid0有啥实际用处吗 对我们个人来说 除了看得分高点？
: 还不如搞大点内存，OS直接装内存好了 肯定比ssd raid0块
h*g
33 楼
其实大家都想这么干。就是没办法 。
【在 t**t 的大作中提到】
: OS怎样才能安装到内存里？
【在 t**t 的大作中提到】
: OS怎样才能安装到内存里？
j*e
34 楼
i-ram？
【在 t**t 的大作中提到】
: OS怎样才能安装到内存里？
【在 t**t 的大作中提到】
: OS怎样才能安装到内存里？
t*t
35 楼
那个东东不能掉电的。
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: i-ram？
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: i-ram？
j*e
36 楼
每次开机折腾一次就行了吧
或者关机的时候镜像存在ssd或者硬盘上？
【在 t**t 的大作中提到】
: 那个东东不能掉电的。
或者关机的时候镜像存在ssd或者硬盘上？
【在 t**t 的大作中提到】
: 那个东东不能掉电的。
t*t
37 楼
那一次开关机得花多少时间?
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: 每次开机折腾一次就行了吧
: 或者关机的时候镜像存在ssd或者硬盘上？
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: 每次开机折腾一次就行了吧
: 或者关机的时候镜像存在ssd或者硬盘上？
f*u
38 楼
If you know how to trim OS, 30GB is already more than enough for OS and
documentations. If you want to put movie etc, 500GB in laptop is not even enough, I don't
see your point to pay $xxx to add large SSD there.
I am not sure who is 脑残 for those don't even know well what they are
talking about. And I may be really 脑残 not to undertand those can
put dirty words in their mouth easily if others have different opinions,
I am totally fine to be called as "脑残" for that, and it sounds good to me
I didn
documentations. If you want to put movie etc, 500GB in laptop is not even enough, I don't
see your point to pay $xxx to add large SSD there.
I am not sure who is 脑残 for those don't even know well what they are
talking about. And I may be really 脑残 not to undertand those can
put dirty words in their mouth easily if others have different opinions,
I am totally fine to be called as "脑残" for that, and it sounds good to me
I didn
c*m
39 楼
Fair enough. I am sorry and will confirm that you are not "naocai". Enjoy yo
ur 15G-OS/2T-backup setup.
enough, I don't
me
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: If you know how to trim OS, 30GB is already more than enough for OS and
: documentations. If you want to put movie etc, 500GB in laptop is not even enough, I don't
: see your point to pay $xxx to add large SSD there.
: I am not sure who is 脑残 for those don't even know well what they are
: talking about. And I may be really 脑残 not to undertand those can
: put dirty words in their mouth easily if others have different opinions,
: I am totally fine to be called as "脑残" for that, and it sounds good to me
: I didn
ur 15G-OS/2T-backup setup.
enough, I don't
me
【在 f*u 的大作中提到】
: If you know how to trim OS, 30GB is already more than enough for OS and
: documentations. If you want to put movie etc, 500GB in laptop is not even enough, I don't
: see your point to pay $xxx to add large SSD there.
: I am not sure who is 脑残 for those don't even know well what they are
: talking about. And I may be really 脑残 not to undertand those can
: put dirty words in their mouth easily if others have different opinions,
: I am totally fine to be called as "脑残" for that, and it sounds good to me
: I didn
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