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Want to change to another lab, but the boss won't let go .# Biology - 生物学
b*e
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如题
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a*3
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An Arab student sends an e-mail to his dad, saying:
Dear Dad
Berlin is wonderful, people are nice and I really like it here,
but Dad, I am a bit ashamed to arrive at my college with my pure-gold
Ferrari 599GTB when all my teachers and many fellow students travel by
train.
Your son, Nasser
The next day, Nasser gets a
reply to his e-mail from his dad:
My dear loving son
Twenty
million US Dollar has just been transferred to your account. Please
stop embarrassing us. Go and get yourself a train too.
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w*0
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谢谢
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O*z
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So the paper was finally accepted for publishing, I am ready to move on. I
am planning to move on by the end of my third year of postdocing, and have
mentioned this to my mean boss in a polite way, however, he said he cannot
afford me leaving him, because I am the most productive one in his entire
lab (of 4). He wanted me to reconsider, but I'm determined to leave
ASAP.
I am wondering wondering how I can get around his reference letter when I
hear back from my applications to other labs. Can I tell them this fact?
Since the boss won't let go of me, he won't provide a letter reflective of
my real performance? How much credit can I expect for my such explanation?
My instinct tells me that my boss will write a nasty letter if I want to
leave. I have had enough with him, so I have to leave and keep myself at
least 50%-sane.
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b*d
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We are licensed in CA, please pm me if u r interested.

【在 b******e 的大作中提到】
: 如题
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v3
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有点意思

【在 a*********3 的大作中提到】
: An Arab student sends an e-mail to his dad, saying:
: Dear Dad
: Berlin is wonderful, people are nice and I really like it here,
: but Dad, I am a bit ashamed to arrive at my college with my pure-gold
: Ferrari 599GTB when all my teachers and many fellow students travel by
: train.
: Your son, Nasser
: The next day, Nasser gets a
: reply to his e-mail from his dad:
: My dear loving son

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E*2
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老板这么蠢?不能得到你就要毁了你?我觉得年轻的科学家要多流动几个实验室是公认
的吧,你就跟老板说为了多学点同时拓宽人脉,希望能在年轻的时候多去几个实验室。
如果可能可以建立实验室合作,一起发文章啊。我听过一个教授的讲座,他说他总是把
他手里的phd毕业生都赶走,以后他们要学到新技术能帮助实验室发展就欢迎他们再回
来。。。。。。
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a*n
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I am in SF bay area, please give me email if you are interested in it
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T*e
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这个笑话已经有不同题目,不同版本贴过好几次了
看看还能继续贴几次

【在 a*********3 的大作中提到】
: An Arab student sends an e-mail to his dad, saying:
: Dear Dad
: Berlin is wonderful, people are nice and I really like it here,
: but Dad, I am a bit ashamed to arrive at my college with my pure-gold
: Ferrari 599GTB when all my teachers and many fellow students travel by
: train.
: Your son, Nasser
: The next day, Nasser gets a
: reply to his e-mail from his dad:
: My dear loving son

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S*e
10
我的情况跟你完全一样,老板给了推荐信,但不强,把我一个很好的机会搞砸了。

【在 O*z 的大作中提到】
: So the paper was finally accepted for publishing, I am ready to move on. I
: am planning to move on by the end of my third year of postdocing, and have
: mentioned this to my mean boss in a polite way, however, he said he cannot
: afford me leaving him, because I am the most productive one in his entire
: lab (of 4). He wanted me to reconsider, but I'm determined to leave
: ASAP.
: I am wondering wondering how I can get around his reference letter when I
: hear back from my applications to other labs. Can I tell them this fact?
: Since the boss won't let go of me, he won't provide a letter reflective of
: my real performance? How much credit can I expect for my such explanation?

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s*d
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OLDDDDDDDDDDDDD

【在 a*********3 的大作中提到】
: An Arab student sends an e-mail to his dad, saying:
: Dear Dad
: Berlin is wonderful, people are nice and I really like it here,
: but Dad, I am a bit ashamed to arrive at my college with my pure-gold
: Ferrari 599GTB when all my teachers and many fellow students travel by
: train.
: Your son, Nasser
: The next day, Nasser gets a
: reply to his e-mail from his dad:
: My dear loving son

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I*a
12
问题是真实的标准是什么,拿什么衡量?
别的boss是相信你,还是你老板?
既然知道老板不给强推荐信,何必还去要?

【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我的情况跟你完全一样,老板给了推荐信,但不强,把我一个很好的机会搞砸了。
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a*x
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多去会议上跟想去的实验室老板套词,熟悉了以后解释推荐信的问题。
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k*0
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跟老板摊牌了,找个理由,说加班过度受到家里压力,一定(无人如何)要离开他的实
验室,希望他出具推荐信,客观评价。
不能退让,否则你永远走不了。
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I*a
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这种馊主意留给自己用吧,

【在 k******0 的大作中提到】
: 跟老板摊牌了,找个理由,说加班过度受到家里压力,一定(无人如何)要离开他的实
: 验室,希望他出具推荐信,客观评价。
: 不能退让,否则你永远走不了。

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S*e
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下家是她朋友,指名点姓要她推荐信。我提前半年跟她讲,合同结束以后要离开,理由
是我对目前的方向没太大兴趣,她也表示理解。在推荐信里她就说不干完不能走,可是
我的文章基本都接收了,而且离我走还4个多月呢。
朋友一般不愿意挖墙脚,一听我老板说不干完不能走,就没戏了。可是什么叫干完呢,
按照她的意思,什么时候她退休了(还需要至少5年),什么时候就是干完了。现在又
让我开始一个新的,她要去申请钱,这下子更没完了。
我其实干得很不错,这一点她最清楚,1年半时间发1篇过10分的文章,是她这辈子第2
好的文章,第一好的也就13分,花了5年时间。过去5年有6个博后,我是第一个要发文
章的。跟老板关系表面上还是很不错的。但自从我说要走了,态度急转直下。这一点实
验室美国博后提醒过我,不过也不能背着她找,她知道会疯掉的,现在只是不强的推荐
信,如果不说就是坏的推荐信。

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】
: 问题是真实的标准是什么,拿什么衡量?
: 别的boss是相信你,还是你老板?
: 既然知道老板不给强推荐信,何必还去要?

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k*0
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那你出个好主意。总不能在那死撑,不仅憋屈自己,而且这事迟早要来的。

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】
: 这种馊主意留给自己用吧,
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k*0
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不去怎么知道老板这个样子?

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】
: 问题是真实的标准是什么,拿什么衡量?
: 别的boss是相信你,还是你老板?
: 既然知道老板不给强推荐信,何必还去要?

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l*1
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错啦 理由> You 对目前的方向没太大兴趣
应该说 去您的朋友那里为了发 CNS 当然尽量还和您合作 让您做last 2nd
corresponding author 在您的现役内还需要至少5年) 我保证搞出一篇来 不带
misconduct 的 CNS or N sister

2

【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 下家是她朋友,指名点姓要她推荐信。我提前半年跟她讲,合同结束以后要离开,理由
: 是我对目前的方向没太大兴趣,她也表示理解。在推荐信里她就说不干完不能走,可是
: 我的文章基本都接收了,而且离我走还4个多月呢。
: 朋友一般不愿意挖墙脚,一听我老板说不干完不能走,就没戏了。可是什么叫干完呢,
: 按照她的意思,什么时候她退休了(还需要至少5年),什么时候就是干完了。现在又
: 让我开始一个新的,她要去申请钱,这下子更没完了。
: 我其实干得很不错,这一点她最清楚,1年半时间发1篇过10分的文章,是她这辈子第2
: 好的文章,第一好的也就13分,花了5年时间。过去5年有6个博后,我是第一个要发文
: 章的。跟老板关系表面上还是很不错的。但自从我说要走了,态度急转直下。这一点实
: 验室美国博后提醒过我,不过也不能背着她找,她知道会疯掉的,现在只是不强的推荐

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S*e
20
这种事情怎么能乱承诺?根本就不是一个方向的,说了她也不信。

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: 错啦 理由> You 对目前的方向没太大兴趣
: 应该说 去您的朋友那里为了发 CNS 当然尽量还和您合作 让您做last 2nd
: corresponding author 在您的现役内还需要至少5年) 我保证搞出一篇来 不带
: misconduct 的 CNS or N sister
:
: 2

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a*n
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If you contacted with your current boss via email regarding your leaving,
and your boss replyed you and would not let you leav because you are the
most productive one, then you may sned this email to the new boss who ask
for a recommendation letter.

【在 O*z 的大作中提到】
: So the paper was finally accepted for publishing, I am ready to move on. I
: am planning to move on by the end of my third year of postdocing, and have
: mentioned this to my mean boss in a polite way, however, he said he cannot
: afford me leaving him, because I am the most productive one in his entire
: lab (of 4). He wanted me to reconsider, but I'm determined to leave
: ASAP.
: I am wondering wondering how I can get around his reference letter when I
: hear back from my applications to other labs. Can I tell them this fact?
: Since the boss won't let go of me, he won't provide a letter reflective of
: my real performance? How much credit can I expect for my such explanation?

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I*a
22
经验教训不都是找好下家,啪屁股走人么?
老板疯掉让她疯好了,
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S*e
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我是觉得跟老板关系还不错,也很努力,小成绩也有了。有现任老板好的推荐信会很不
一样。没想到她会黑我。

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】
: 经验教训不都是找好下家,啪屁股走人么?
: 老板疯掉让她疯好了,

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l*1
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R01 or nsf your boss/PI not belong to Top 8% applicant
so she may lost next round funding, then if you also Moved out
she will never could get R01 or nsf gain before she retired, of course, she
might want to do another decade from her retire (possible)

【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我是觉得跟老板关系还不错,也很努力,小成绩也有了。有现任老板好的推荐信会很不
: 一样。没想到她会黑我。

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I*y
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if your English sucks like this, why not type in Chinese.

she

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: R01 or nsf your boss/PI not belong to Top 8% applicant
: so she may lost next round funding, then if you also Moved out
: she will never could get R01 or nsf gain before she retired, of course, she
: might want to do another decade from her retire (possible)

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W*7
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可怜人远远不止我一个啊,能有什么办法呢,遇到混蛋老板,你只能动用一切能动用的
关系了。。。
看看朋友有没有认识的老板在找人,当然老板要nice才行。。。
good luck!
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S*e
27
看样子可怜人不止我1个啊。

【在 W****7 的大作中提到】
: 可怜人远远不止我一个啊,能有什么办法呢,遇到混蛋老板,你只能动用一切能动用的
: 关系了。。。
: 看看朋友有没有认识的老板在找人,当然老板要nice才行。。。
: good luck!

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