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j*e2014-10-17 07:10

1 楼

男宝宝差两个月到两岁，今天接到daycare老师的email,说他要什么东西，不给他，他
就倒地大哭，已经一个月了。说他们要看12个孩子，没法handle。问我们在家怎么弄的
。要给他correction.
我们在家就是要啥就尽量给，不给就哄呗。不过宝宝确实是要啥就得给他，不给就哭。
从小就这样。还是小baby时，饿了就使劲哭，直到奶瓶送嘴里。怎么办呢？

C*k2014-10-17 07:10

2 楼

昨天下午去机场接岳父母，出机场上了高速他们才记起来有一女士托他们带国内产香烟
过海关，可能出海关等的时间太久，大家把这件事都搞忘记了，出了海关没有交接，又
没有留下任何联系方式。请失主看到这帖后和我短线信联系。
多谢！

j*e2014-10-17 07:10

3 楼

老师的原文：
“whenever he has to
share toys and take turns with friends in the classroom. He gets
really upset about it, where he throws himself on the floor, and as he
screams he take his shoes off. We have been talking with him a lot in
the past couple weeks, but most of the times does not work as well as
we expected. ”

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 男宝宝差两个月到两岁，今天接到daycare老师的email,说他要什么东西，不给他，他
: 就倒地大哭，已经一个月了。说他们要看12个孩子，没法handle。问我们在家怎么弄的
: 。要给他correction.
: 我们在家就是要啥就尽量给，不给就哄呗。不过宝宝确实是要啥就得给他，不给就哭。
: 从小就这样。还是小baby时，饿了就使劲哭，直到奶瓶送嘴里。怎么办呢？

r*f2014-10-17 07:10

4 楼

看起来没啥啊，老师不就是告诉你们小孩的情况吗。
没看到什么correction字眼， correction是你们自己想的吧？
要么time out，要么继续redirection好了。

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 老师的原文：
: “whenever he has to
: share toys and take turns with friends in the classroom. He gets
: really upset about it, where he throws himself on the floor, and as he
: screams he take his shoes off. We have been talking with him a lot in
: the past couple weeks, but most of the times does not work as well as
: we expected. ”

r*f2014-10-17 07:10

5 楼

奇怪，imho 饿了和take turn根本不是一个概念吧。饿了哭很正常，不哭才有问题。
但是不肯take turn是要教育的。这点家长怎么都应该配合老师吧。

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 男宝宝差两个月到两岁，今天接到daycare老师的email,说他要什么东西，不给他，他
: 就倒地大哭，已经一个月了。说他们要看12个孩子，没法handle。问我们在家怎么弄的
: 。要给他correction.
: 我们在家就是要啥就尽量给，不给就哄呗。不过宝宝确实是要啥就得给他，不给就哭。
: 从小就这样。还是小baby时，饿了就使劲哭，直到奶瓶送嘴里。怎么办呢？

n*y2014-10-17 07:10

6 楼

share toys 和 taking turns 和你说的可不一样，那个是幼儿园的必要功课。你是不
是没贴全啊？人没说不能handle啊。

l*e2014-10-17 07:10

7 楼

同意楼上两位的观点。我一直都觉得，如果自己的孩子自己不上规矩，以后到了社会上
被社会教育，孩子吃的苦头更多。

x*i2014-10-17 07:10

8 楼

how old are the teachers? are they experienced at all? it's strange to me
that they would talk to a 2 year old about his behavior and expect him to
change on his own. how much can he understand and how does he know what to
do?
the experienced teacher would clearly set the rules, then enforce them
whenever appropriate, such as time outs. the parents should do the same at
home.

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 老师的原文：
: “whenever he has to
: share toys and take turns with friends in the classroom. He gets
: really upset about it, where he throws himself on the floor, and as he
: screams he take his shoes off. We have been talking with him a lot in
: the past couple weeks, but most of the times does not work as well as
: we expected. ”

P*s2014-10-17 07:10

9 楼

这，不就是好多家长说的“唐”嘛。
比这小的孩子，好多家长还唐呢。

【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】

: how old are the teachers? are they experienced at all? it's strange to me
: that they would talk to a 2 year old about his behavior and expect him to
: change on his own. how much can he understand and how does he know what to
: do?
: the experienced teacher would clearly set the rules, then enforce them
: whenever appropriate, such as time outs. the parents should do the same at
: home.

n*y2014-10-17 07:10

10 楼

errh, I should think 2 year old is quite capable of following orders already
. And they certainly do understand what kind of behavior is not good, they
lack impulse control, but when told, they could modify their behavior.
And I really do not see anywhere in the email that the teacher complained
anything about his/her inability to handle the child.

【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】

: how old are the teachers? are they experienced at all? it's strange to me
: that they would talk to a 2 year old about his behavior and expect him to
: change on his own. how much can he understand and how does he know what to
: do?
: the experienced teacher would clearly set the rules, then enforce them
: whenever appropriate, such as time outs. the parents should do the same at
: home.

e*o2014-10-17 07:10

11 楼

唐嘛，属于功在千秋型的武功。要利在当场，还是得吼嘛。。。

【在 P***s 的大作中提到】

: 这，不就是好多家长说的“唐”嘛。
: 比这小的孩子，好多家长还唐呢。

x*i2014-10-17 07:10

12 楼

我觉得家长跟孩子唐很正常，daycare老师好像没有这么多耐心/精力，而应该有更立竿
见影的方法

【在 P***s 的大作中提到】

: 这，不就是好多家长说的“唐”嘛。
: 比这小的孩子，好多家长还唐呢。

n*y2014-10-17 07:10

13 楼

人是老师，不是神仙

【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】

: 我觉得家长跟孩子唐很正常，daycare老师好像没有这么多耐心/精力，而应该有更立竿
: 见影的方法

s*n2014-10-17 07:10

14 楼

怎么办，配合老师啊
你溺爱孩子，觉得自己这样做没错么？
等娃长大了，要天上星星月亮你也给？
跟别人打交道，人家不答应他的要求，他也撒泼打滚，谁哄他？

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 老师的原文：
: “whenever he has to
: share toys and take turns with friends in the classroom. He gets
: really upset about it, where he throws himself on the floor, and as he
: screams he take his shoes off. We have been talking with him a lot in
: the past couple weeks, but most of the times does not work as well as
: we expected. ”

P*s2014-10-17 07:10

15 楼

也许人家自己就grow out了呢？

【在 s**n 的大作中提到】

: 怎么办，配合老师啊
: 你溺爱孩子，觉得自己这样做没错么？
: 等娃长大了，要天上星星月亮你也给？
: 跟别人打交道，人家不答应他的要求，他也撒泼打滚，谁哄他？

n*y2014-10-17 07:10

16 楼

会闹是因为宠的不够。我火上浇油的说。

【在 P***s 的大作中提到】

: 也许人家自己就grow out了呢？

j*e2014-10-17 07:10

17 楼

Sorry about 没贴全。
“We would like to know how you would manage this situation at home.
What do you suggest for us to do? Just remember, we have 10 kids in
the class, we can’t let him go without shoes because the other kids
are going to do the same. We also, can’t ignore him; we need to let
him know/understand that that’s an unacceptable behavior.
Unfortunately we are running out of ideas on how to deal with his
behavior issue and we really need your help, we would love to hear
from you.”

already

【在 n****y 的大作中提到】

: errh, I should think 2 year old is quite capable of following orders already
: . And they certainly do understand what kind of behavior is not good, they
: lack impulse control, but when told, they could modify their behavior.
: And I really do not see anywhere in the email that the teacher complained
: anything about his/her inability to handle the child.

j*e2014-10-17 07:10

18 楼

一个20，一个30. I think they should have some experience. It is considered a
pretty good daycare.
To begin with, I might not set rules well and caused some difficulty in
daycare. When the kid throw a tandrum, he usually gets what he wants in home
. Thought it is too early to train him. Probably need to start to set rules
at home now.

【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】

: how old are the teachers? are they experienced at all? it's strange to me
: that they would talk to a 2 year old about his behavior and expect him to
: change on his own. how much can he understand and how does he know what to
: do?
: the experienced teacher would clearly set the rules, then enforce them
: whenever appropriate, such as time outs. the parents should do the same at
: home.

k*b2014-10-17 07:10

19 楼

对的，大概1岁半左右或者更早，家长就要开始对孩子一些不好的无理要求说‘No',，
让他逐渐明白不可以象小baby一样为所欲为。通常一开始孩子都会大哭大闹，甚至撒泼
打滚,只要不是饿了病了困了，让他cry out 好了。哭几次，没用，他就会不哭了(哭这
个时候是他斗争的手段)。这是一个艰难的过程，但是每个孩子成长过程中必过的一关
。几乎所有的育儿书都会讲到todddle阶段的这个特点。
不管孩子送不送daycare, 家长都应该开始尽早开始discpline 小孩的行为。既然
daycare老师提出来了，家长就赶快行动吧。先找些育儿书看看。

【在 s**n 的大作中提到】

: 怎么办，配合老师啊
: 你溺爱孩子，觉得自己这样做没错么？
: 等娃长大了，要天上星星月亮你也给？
: 跟别人打交道，人家不答应他的要求，他也撒泼打滚，谁哄他？

n*y2014-10-17 07:10

20 楼

哎，人家说话客气哎，这就是。她们是在说：这些行为是不被接受的行为，希望你在家
配合。我要是那当老师的，估计得背后嘀咕这家孩子怎么管得。

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: Sorry about 没贴全。
: “We would like to know how you would manage this situation at home.
: What do you suggest for us to do? Just remember, we have 10 kids in
: the class, we can’t let him go without shoes because the other kids
: are going to do the same. We also, can’t ignore him; we need to let
: him know/understand that that’s an unacceptable behavior.
: Unfortunately we are running out of ideas on how to deal with his
: behavior issue and we really need your help, we would love to hear
: from you.”
:

x*i2014-10-17 07:10

21 楼

they're young for daycare teachers :) a good daycare can have inexperienced
teachers too. how do they usually cope with behavior problems? if they're
running out of ideas after just talking to your kid, I'd guess they never
dealt with such problems before, that's a sign of inexperience.
anyway, as parents you'll have to start disciplining your kid. get books
such as "positive displine" and "setting limits", they're very helpful. also
communicate often with the teachers, know what they're doing at daycare and
reinforce at home

a
home
rules

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 一个20，一个30. I think they should have some experience. It is considered a
: pretty good daycare.
: To begin with, I might not set rules well and caused some difficulty in
: daycare. When the kid throw a tandrum, he usually gets what he wants in home
: . Thought it is too early to train him. Probably need to start to set rules
: at home now.

q*22014-10-17 07:10

22 楼

撒泼打滚得在家开始管。但楼主也放宽心，以及我和
孩子去上的《mommy and me class》都提到，这时候给孩子灌输take turns, sharing
是科学的，但是娃还小，根本不懂，自己的思想里现在也只有自己。关键是老师和家长
怎么引导让孩子take turns.比如，去playdate, 带一些有助于孩子你一下我一下的玩
具。晚上你给娃读书，你翻一页，他/她翻一页。再长大些，自然就知道sharing，take
turns了。

j*a2014-10-17 07:10

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“When the kid throw a tandrum, he usually gets what he wants in home。”
这不是big no-no吗？孩子过了一岁就知道怎么manipulate大人了，你在家宠着，明着
给老师添堵啊。

a
home
rules

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 一个20，一个30. I think they should have some experience. It is considered a
: pretty good daycare.
: To begin with, I might not set rules well and caused some difficulty in
: daycare. When the kid throw a tandrum, he usually gets what he wants in home
: . Thought it is too early to train him. Probably need to start to set rules
: at home now.

l*r2014-10-17 07:10

24 楼

你到底想问什么啊？

a
home
rules

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 一个20，一个30. I think they should have some experience. It is considered a
: pretty good daycare.
: To begin with, I might not set rules well and caused some difficulty in
: daycare. When the kid throw a tandrum, he usually gets what he wants in home
: . Thought it is too early to train him. Probably need to start to set rules
: at home now.

n*y2014-10-17 07:10

25 楼

她，我推测说，想说不是她娃儿的错。

【在 l*****r 的大作中提到】

: 你到底想问什么啊？
:
: a
: home
: rules

s*i2014-10-17 07:10

26 楼

i think your daycare teachers are nice to communicate with you about your
kid. They let you know how they handle the issue. I think you should work
with teachers to make the kid understand his behavior is wrong. you need to
say 'no' first at home.

k*b2014-10-17 07:10

27 楼

现在train him，不是太早，是已经迟了，如果不是太迟了的话。

a
home
rules

【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】

: 一个20，一个30. I think they should have some experience. It is considered a
: pretty good daycare.
: To begin with, I might not set rules well and caused some difficulty in
: daycare. When the kid throw a tandrum, he usually gets what he wants in home
: . Thought it is too early to train him. Probably need to start to set rules
: at home now.

r*f2014-10-17 07:10

28 楼

22个月啊，说迟是真的不至于吧。关键是家长要consistent呀。

【在 k******b 的大作中提到】

: 现在train him，不是太早，是已经迟了，如果不是太迟了的话。
:
: a
: home
: rules

l*e2014-10-17 07:10

29 楼

老师说的是客气话，他们应该知道这样的行为都是家长灌出来的。我倒不觉得老师们没
有经验，只能说孩子实在是太皮了，老师希望家长在家里配合教育。家长已经明白老师
的意思了，就开始吧。
我一直都不同意孩子上规矩太早了的说法，其实从很小，哪怕是条件反射，已经可以让
孩子养成比较好的习惯了。我家老人说，孩子还要去daycare，已经够可怜的了，应该
从7岁开始上规矩。还好老人家说归说，还是没有真的禁止我们管教孩子。

l*r2014-10-17 07:10

30 楼

这个迟，不是说孩子已经教育不出来了，而是说早就该教育了吧。

【在 r*f 的大作中提到】

: 22个月啊，说迟是真的不至于吧。关键是家长要consistent呀。

r*f2014-10-17 07:10

31 楼

嗯，我是针对楼上mm说“如果不是太迟了的话”,再说还可能有t2的因素

【在 l*****r 的大作中提到】

: 这个迟，不是说孩子已经教育不出来了，而是说早就该教育了吧。

s*r2014-10-17 07:10

32 楼

可不要小看了两岁的孩子,懂得可不少.
我家的一岁半,在他爹面前使劲闹,要爸爸抱着吃饭.不抱就使劲哭,直到爸爸屈服.
可我们不在家的时候在Nanny面前规规矩矩,
自己和哥哥一起坐在小桌子前自己吃饭.
还有就是生气的时候发脾气,扔东西.我把他扔掉的玩具拣起来,扔到门外去.
过一会儿再拣回来,放回他手里之前教育一番,立马老老实实.

【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】

: how old are the teachers? are they experienced at all? it's strange to me
: that they would talk to a 2 year old about his behavior and expect him to
: change on his own. how much can he understand and how does he know what to
: do?
: the experienced teacher would clearly set the rules, then enforce them
: whenever appropriate, such as time outs. the parents should do the same at
: home.