Pre-bronze Samba 套路一问 - 未名空间MITBBS历史存档

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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USADBA的网站上所列的pre bronze级别动作如下：
1. Basic Movement
2. Whisks
3. Samba Walks
4. Rhythm Bounce
5. Volta Movements
6. Traveling Bota Fogos
7. Criss Cross Bota Fogos (Shadow Bota Fogos)
请问做完Criss Cross Bota Fogos之后接什么动作比较好？原先一直是接的Criss cross
volta ＋ volta。但是criss cross volta是bronze级别动作，如果参加pre bronze的比
赛，恐怕不能用。请大家指点。
还有这个单子中的6，travelling bota fogos，是个什么动作？一直不是很明白的说。。
。

x*j2005-10-19 07:10

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http://www.ballroomdancers.com/Dances/syllabus2.asp?Dance=SAM&Level=1

cross
比

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: USADBA的网站上所列的pre bronze级别动作如下：
: 1. Basic Movement
: 2. Whisks
: 3. Samba Walks
: 4. Rhythm Bounce
: 5. Volta Movements
: 6. Traveling Bota Fogos
: 7. Criss Cross Bota Fogos (Shadow Bota Fogos)
: 请问做完Criss Cross Bota Fogos之后接什么动作比较好？原先一直是接的Criss cross
: volta ＋ volta。但是criss cross volta是bronze级别动作，如果参加pre bronze的比

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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this website is great! thanks! very helpful for beginners!
unfortunately, the overview part for samba, in which they will explain which
steps precede or follow the current step, is not ready yet. pity!
at least, i know what is travelling bota fogos now! thanks again!

【在 x**j 的大作中提到】

: http://www.ballroomdancers.com/Dances/syllabus2.asp?Dance=SAM&Level=1
:
: cross
: 比

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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do you have our gmail account?
i uploaded our Bronze routine for 10 dances 1 month ago,
those ones are all good ones, we practice every time according to them
so far no mistakes, no connections probllems.
maybe you want to refer to it

cross
比

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: USADBA的网站上所列的pre bronze级别动作如下：
: 1. Basic Movement
: 2. Whisks
: 3. Samba Walks
: 4. Rhythm Bounce
: 5. Volta Movements
: 6. Traveling Bota Fogos
: 7. Criss Cross Bota Fogos (Shadow Bota Fogos)
: 请问做完Criss Cross Bota Fogos之后接什么动作比较好？原先一直是接的Criss cross
: volta ＋ volta。但是criss cross volta是bronze级别动作，如果参加pre bronze的比

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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回onion版主，偶对本版的gmail帐户仰慕以久，可惜自己目前位置还没张正儿八经的跳舞
照片，所以一直没敢申请的说。不过可能就快有照片了，呵呵。到时侯，俺肯定要来报道
的。
再回到那个问题上来，我问的是pre bronze套路，不是bronze，呵呵。怎么接criss
cross bota fogo呢？好像pre bronze里头其他的动作没个合适的，可我也不能作上
criss cross bota fogo就作个没完，总得换点花样啊。郁闷。。。。。。

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: do you have our gmail account?
: i uploaded our Bronze routine for 10 dances 1 month ago,
: those ones are all good ones, we practice every time according to them
: so far no mistakes, no connections probllems.
: maybe you want to refer to it
:
: cross
: 比

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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criss cross bota fogo, you do 4 halves,the last one you are on the left,
follower on right, then you both turn 90 facing each other then do 4 votas ya

舞
道

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: 回onion版主，偶对本版的gmail帐户仰慕以久，可惜自己目前位置还没张正儿八经的跳舞
: 照片，所以一直没敢申请的说。不过可能就快有照片了，呵呵。到时侯，俺肯定要来报道
: 的。
: 再回到那个问题上来，我问的是pre bronze套路，不是bronze，呵呵。怎么接criss
: cross bota fogo呢？好像pre bronze里头其他的动作没个合适的，可我也不能作上
: criss cross bota fogo就作个没完，总得换点花样啊。郁闷。。。。。。

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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做这个之前得换脚吧？可是foot change是bronze级别的，所以。。。。。。

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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报了两个级别，一个是bronze，还有一个是new comer，我想应该就是pre bronze吧。
criss cross bota fogo 接 whisk 好似有些别扭的说。

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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what is foot change?

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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回家终于可以看video了。接着做vota把。
以前我在american style里学的一个routine是我们bronze routine的前半段：
whisks, spot turn, samba walk, criss cross bota fogos, voltas, then whisks
again from the begining,
already good enough

舞
道

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: 回onion版主，偶对本版的gmail帐户仰慕以久，可惜自己目前位置还没张正儿八经的跳舞
: 照片，所以一直没敢申请的说。不过可能就快有照片了，呵呵。到时侯，俺肯定要来报道
: 的。
: 再回到那个问题上来，我问的是pre bronze套路，不是bronze，呵呵。怎么接criss
: cross bota fogo呢？好像pre bronze里头其他的动作没个合适的，可我也不能作上
: criss cross bota fogo就作个没完，总得换点花样啊。郁闷。。。。。。

M*e2005-10-19 07:10

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voLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLta

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: 回家终于可以看video了。接着做vota把。
: 以前我在american style里学的一个routine是我们bronze routine的前半段：
: whisks, spot turn, samba walk, criss cross bota fogos, voltas, then whisks
: again from the begining,
: already good enough
:
: 舞
: 道

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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妹妹呀，你再羞辱哥哥一次，哥哥就去自杀给你看，555

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: voLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLta

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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你是说criss cross volta＋volta吧，volta是pre bronze的，但criss cross volta是
bronze级别的。
我现在觉得可以在criss cross bota fogos之后接stationary samba walk，好似还行得
通

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: 回家终于可以看video了。接着做vota把。
: 以前我在american style里学的一个routine是我们bronze routine的前半段：
: whisks, spot turn, samba walk, criss cross bota fogos, voltas, then whisks
: again from the begining,
: already good enough
:
: 舞
: 道

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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en, exactly.

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: voLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLta

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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喔？是这样啊？不过USABDA网站上倒是有pre bronze的syllabus，都是最简单的那些动作
。而报名比赛的时候new comer的级别又比bronze要低，我就自然地把这两个画等号了。
待我写封email问问主板者再说。

competition.
voltas"

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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this is called bota fogo in shadow position? i think what u were saying is
called travelling bota fogo forward/backward. for the one in shadow position,
usually man will do a foot change, then man and lady face the same direction,
dance towards the same direction, and do the same figures with the same foot.
after shadow position, u need to have another foot change to go back to the
normal position.

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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or a kick without change of weight in samba.

s*w2005-10-19 07:10

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水车啊。。。。

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: or a kick without change of weight in samba.

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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not really. volta is one way to adjust your postion/speed, if you directly go
into stationary stuff after fogos, you may look ugly :)

得

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: 你是说criss cross volta＋volta吧，volta是pre bronze的，但criss cross volta是
: bronze级别的。
: 我现在觉得可以在criss cross bota fogos之后接stationary samba walk，好似还行得
: 通

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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浪费感情？什么意思？
刚收到主办者的回信，new comer级别就只能跳pre bronze的动作，并非所有的动作都可
以。不过这个可能因赛而异吧，不同的主办者可能规矩不同。

动
了

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: voLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLta

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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呵呵，看来说是说不清了，可惜我们不在一处，没法直接交流。

go

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: not really. volta is one way to adjust your postion/speed, if you directly go
: into stationary stuff after fogos, you may look ugly :)
:
: 得

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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Well, it turns out that the one i registered is for pre-bronze only. :(

competition.
voltas"

M*e2005-10-19 07:10

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i guess what onion meant to say is that
after criss cross bota fogo
usually the two people are too far away and opened too much
for stationary stuff.
but criss cross volta can adjust the postion so that the
two can be parallel and face each other.
you have the same feeling about criss cross bota fogo, right?
'cause you don't like doing whisk after it
i totally agree. and i think with the constrain of pre-bronze
the only solution is to over turn the last bota fogo
so that the two people face each

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: 呵呵，看来说是说不清了，可惜我们不在一处，没法直接交流。
:
: go

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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yeah, i agree. it's too limited...but that's the way it is. at least, it's
gonna be limited for all the couples, not just us, haha

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: i guess what onion meant to say is that
: after criss cross bota fogo
: usually the two people are too far away and opened too much
: for stationary stuff.
: but criss cross volta can adjust the postion so that the
: two can be parallel and face each other.
: you have the same feeling about criss cross bota fogo, right?
: 'cause you don't like doing whisk after it
: i totally agree. and i think with the constrain of pre-bronze
: the only solution is to over turn the last bota fogo

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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i think we could use the stationary samba walk (facing each other, not those
in promenade positions) to adjust the relative position after the criss cross
bota fogos. well, i may be wrong, but this is the best solution i've found so
far.

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: i guess what onion meant to say is that
: after criss cross bota fogo
: usually the two people are too far away and opened too much
: for stationary stuff.
: but criss cross volta can adjust the postion so that the
: two can be parallel and face each other.
: you have the same feeling about criss cross bota fogo, right?
: 'cause you don't like doing whisk after it
: i totally agree. and i think with the constrain of pre-bronze
: the only solution is to over turn the last bota fogo

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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seriously ask, why you dont do voltas? i mean when you start from fogos to
stationary walks, it is like you do sth very fancy, fast and followed by sth
pretty stationary and fun, it would be good to put something connection in
between ya...

cross
so

【在 o***n 的大作中提到】

: i think we could use the stationary samba walk (facing each other, not those
: in promenade positions) to adjust the relative position after the criss cross
: bota fogos. well, i may be wrong, but this is the best solution i've found so
: far.

s*w2005-10-19 07:10

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criss cross bota fogo＋vota，中间跳过criss cross volta？
呵呵
葱版主示范一个先吧

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: seriously ask, why you dont do voltas? i mean when you start from fogos to
: stationary walks, it is like you do sth very fancy, fast and followed by sth
: pretty stationary and fun, it would be good to put something connection in
: between ya...
:
: cross
: so

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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i am confused le.
orion wants to do bota fogo+ stationary samba walk, right?
if put voltas in between, would be better ba?

【在 s******w 的大作中提到】

: criss cross bota fogo＋vota，中间跳过criss cross volta？
: 呵呵
: 葱版主示范一个先吧

s*w2005-10-19 07:10

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criss cross volta 和 volta 是不一样的
前者在bronze level，后者在pre－bronze level
orion要去pre－bronze
所以不能跳criss cross volta
而大家熟悉的套路是
criss cross bota fogo ＋ criss cross volta ＋ volta
现在要把中间那个criss cross volta去掉，或者直接跳volta
或者接两个人面对面的stationary samba walk
前者我觉得做不出来，所以请葱版主示范一下咯
后者我觉得还可行，虽然不知道跳出来会不会很丑

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: i am confused le.
: orion wants to do bota fogo+ stationary samba walk, right?
: if put voltas in between, would be better ba?

c*l2005-10-19 07:10

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criss cross volta? sorry ya, i really dont know this name ya
we always do criss cross bota fogo + voltas, what is criss cross volta ya?

【在 s******w 的大作中提到】

: criss cross volta 和 volta 是不一样的
: 前者在bronze level，后者在pre－bronze level
: orion要去pre－bronze
: 所以不能跳criss cross volta
: 而大家熟悉的套路是
: criss cross bota fogo ＋ criss cross volta ＋ volta
: 现在要把中间那个criss cross volta去掉，或者直接跳volta
: 或者接两个人面对面的stationary samba walk
: 前者我觉得做不出来，所以请葱版主示范一下咯
: 后者我觉得还可行，虽然不知道跳出来会不会很丑

s*w2005-10-19 07:10

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就是换位置那一下
接下来平着走的那几下是volta
说实话，我觉得这个规定太不make sense了
有人做完criss cross bota fogo不换位置就平着做volta的嘛？

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: criss cross volta? sorry ya, i really dont know this name ya
: we always do criss cross bota fogo + voltas, what is criss cross volta ya?

s*w2005-10-19 07:10

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那现在咋办ni？

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: i guess what onion meant to say is that
: after criss cross bota fogo
: usually the two people are too far away and opened too much
: for stationary stuff.
: but criss cross volta can adjust the postion so that the
: two can be parallel and face each other.
: you have the same feeling about criss cross bota fogo, right?
: 'cause you don't like doing whisk after it
: i totally agree. and i think with the constrain of pre-bronze
: the only solution is to over turn the last bota fogo

o*n2005-10-19 07:10

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恩，同笑之

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: i guess what onion meant to say is that
: after criss cross bota fogo
: usually the two people are too far away and opened too much
: for stationary stuff.
: but criss cross volta can adjust the postion so that the
: two can be parallel and face each other.
: you have the same feeling about criss cross bota fogo, right?
: 'cause you don't like doing whisk after it
: i totally agree. and i think with the constrain of pre-bronze
: the only solution is to over turn the last bota fogo