说两个我认为的误区吧-顺便把我和凹本联系的内容公开# EB23 - 劳工卡
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误区一：
降级导致我的原生EB3C变慢。就算全中国就你一个eb3，你也有可能现在还在等着没批
，影响你批的因素太多了，就背景调查这一条，就会一直卡着你。有的eb1等了1年都没
批，最快记录保持者30天就绿的保持者恰恰是原装eb3。所以请不要把不公平归结为降
级。
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发信人: HarrisonApt (Rent), 信区: EB3
标 题: 降级带来的不公平
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 31 08:59:23 2014, 美东)
降级不但抢了原生EB-3C的名额，似乎还造成审批速度上的不公平。看那些降级报绿的
，很多RD迟于原生EB-3C的都已经绿了，原生的却还在苦等。不知道这个问题有没有渠
道反映。
发信人: HarrisonApt (Rent), 信区: EB3
标 题: Re: 降级带来的不公平
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 1 22:29:47 2014, 美东)
我是TSC，1月初的还在苦等……
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误区二：
我认为现在降级，对任何eb23都息息相关，绝不是仅仅降级这批人，受益的eb23占全体
eb23职业移民的80%以上吧。展开来说：
2010年5月前交485的eb2：这些人降的越多，也有可能提前放开eb2。NIW约有可能提早
交485。
2010年5月后的eb2：有机会交485，有机会拿绿卡
。
原装eb3：排期退得越晚，拿卡的机会越大。
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发信人: flc (qinqinmami), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: 不要骂fuwu了，他给奥本写信是NIU主席看过的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 2 15:40:45 2014, 美东)
这个“大家”指的是eb2降eb3吧，可是职业移民又不止这拨人，我觉得这么问没什么，
当然等3类退了再问也可以，干嘛干脆不问呢？
大家都是以自己的利益出发考虑问题，谁也不见得比谁高尚高明。奥本又不是真傻，人
家顶多数学差一点，可每次都在明里暗里地帮着老印，他为啥就没傻到帮到了中国的份
上呢。
发信人: flc (qinqinmami), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: 联系了奥本，问了问降级对 EB2/3 前进速度有什么影响 (转
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 2 16:01:00 2014, 美东)
其实我本来是无所谓，就是看不惯你们的态度，稍稍没那么有利于你们的情形就开骂
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和凹本的通信内容（感谢老赫的信任，让我没事去调戏一下凹本）：
1. Feb 12：
我问他：没有uscis的485数据支持，会不会影响你对排期预测的判断？
他答：See item E, I feel confident with those estimates through June.
重点是：through june.
Item e 内容：
E. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE COMING MONTHS
FAMILY-sponsored categories (potential monthly movement)
Worldwide dates:
F1: Two to four weeks
F2A: No forward movement is expected
F2B: Four to seven weeks
F3: Four to six weeks
F4: Two or three weeks
EMPLOYMENT-based categories (potential monthly movement)
Employment First: Current
Employment Second:
Worldwide: Current
China: Three to five weeks
India: No forward movement
Employment Third:
Worldwide: This cut-off date has been advanced over four and one half years
since last spring in an effort to generate new demand. After such a rapid
advance of a cut-off date applicant demand for number use, particularly for
adjustment of status cases, can be expected to increase significantly. Once
such demand begins to materialize at a greater rate it could have a
significant
impact on this cut-off date situation. Little, if any forward movement of
this
cut-off date is likely during the next few months.
China: Will remain at the worldwide date
India: Little if any movement
Mexico: Will remain at the worldwide date
Philippines: Three to six weeks
Employment Fourth: Current
Employment Fifth: Current
-7- March 2014
The above projections for the Family and Employment categories are for what
is
likely to happen during each of the next several months based on current
applicant demand patterns. Readers should never assume that recent trends in
cut-off date movements are guaranteed for the future, or that "corrective"
action
will not be required at some point in an effort to maintain number use
within the
applicable annual limits. The determination of the actual monthly cut-off
dates
is subject to fluctuations in applicant demand and a number of other
variables.
Unless indicated, those categories with a "Current" projection will remain
so for
the foreseeable future.
----------------------------------------------------
2. Feb 25:
我问他：485inventory终于出来了，eb3c和row存量太少，你的排期预测太保守了。应
该放开了继续前进。
他回答：The EB-3 cut-off date has been moved forward five years during the
past year in an effort to generate demand. That action should provide a
sufficient “pool” of eligible applicants to fully utilize all available
numbers under the annual limit. The situation is being monitored, and if
necessary further movements will be initiated at some point.
我当时告诉板斧我认为他的回复是good sign，他还不清楚pool有多大，有机会继续前
进。
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3. March 26:
我问他：你对上个月做出的排期预测还confident吗？
他回：My estimates stand, but read the last paragraph ot the item. Changes (
good/bad) could happen at any time, that is one of the problems with the
lack of USCIS data.
--------------------------------------------------------
希望fuwu公开一下和凹本沟通的内容，帮助大伙预测。
降级导致我的原生EB3C变慢。就算全中国就你一个eb3，你也有可能现在还在等着没批
，影响你批的因素太多了，就背景调查这一条，就会一直卡着你。有的eb1等了1年都没
批，最快记录保持者30天就绿的保持者恰恰是原装eb3。所以请不要把不公平归结为降
级。
-------------------------------------
发信人: HarrisonApt (Rent), 信区: EB3
标 题: 降级带来的不公平
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 31 08:59:23 2014, 美东)
降级不但抢了原生EB-3C的名额，似乎还造成审批速度上的不公平。看那些降级报绿的
，很多RD迟于原生EB-3C的都已经绿了，原生的却还在苦等。不知道这个问题有没有渠
道反映。
发信人: HarrisonApt (Rent), 信区: EB3
标 题: Re: 降级带来的不公平
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 1 22:29:47 2014, 美东)
我是TSC，1月初的还在苦等……
-----------------------------------------------
误区二：
我认为现在降级，对任何eb23都息息相关，绝不是仅仅降级这批人，受益的eb23占全体
eb23职业移民的80%以上吧。展开来说：
2010年5月前交485的eb2：这些人降的越多，也有可能提前放开eb2。NIW约有可能提早
交485。
2010年5月后的eb2：有机会交485，有机会拿绿卡
。
原装eb3：排期退得越晚，拿卡的机会越大。
-----------------------------------------------
发信人: flc (qinqinmami), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: 不要骂fuwu了，他给奥本写信是NIU主席看过的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 2 15:40:45 2014, 美东)
这个“大家”指的是eb2降eb3吧，可是职业移民又不止这拨人，我觉得这么问没什么，
当然等3类退了再问也可以，干嘛干脆不问呢？
大家都是以自己的利益出发考虑问题，谁也不见得比谁高尚高明。奥本又不是真傻，人
家顶多数学差一点，可每次都在明里暗里地帮着老印，他为啥就没傻到帮到了中国的份
上呢。
发信人: flc (qinqinmami), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: 联系了奥本，问了问降级对 EB2/3 前进速度有什么影响 (转
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 2 16:01:00 2014, 美东)
其实我本来是无所谓，就是看不惯你们的态度，稍稍没那么有利于你们的情形就开骂
--------------------------------------------------
和凹本的通信内容（感谢老赫的信任，让我没事去调戏一下凹本）：
1. Feb 12：
我问他：没有uscis的485数据支持，会不会影响你对排期预测的判断？
他答：See item E, I feel confident with those estimates through June.
重点是：through june.
Item e 内容：
E. VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE COMING MONTHS
FAMILY-sponsored categories (potential monthly movement)
Worldwide dates:
F1: Two to four weeks
F2A: No forward movement is expected
F2B: Four to seven weeks
F3: Four to six weeks
F4: Two or three weeks
EMPLOYMENT-based categories (potential monthly movement)
Employment First: Current
Employment Second:
Worldwide: Current
China: Three to five weeks
India: No forward movement
Employment Third:
Worldwide: This cut-off date has been advanced over four and one half years
since last spring in an effort to generate new demand. After such a rapid
advance of a cut-off date applicant demand for number use, particularly for
adjustment of status cases, can be expected to increase significantly. Once
such demand begins to materialize at a greater rate it could have a
significant
impact on this cut-off date situation. Little, if any forward movement of
this
cut-off date is likely during the next few months.
China: Will remain at the worldwide date
India: Little if any movement
Mexico: Will remain at the worldwide date
Philippines: Three to six weeks
Employment Fourth: Current
Employment Fifth: Current
-7- March 2014
The above projections for the Family and Employment categories are for what
is
likely to happen during each of the next several months based on current
applicant demand patterns. Readers should never assume that recent trends in
cut-off date movements are guaranteed for the future, or that "corrective"
action
will not be required at some point in an effort to maintain number use
within the
applicable annual limits. The determination of the actual monthly cut-off
dates
is subject to fluctuations in applicant demand and a number of other
variables.
Unless indicated, those categories with a "Current" projection will remain
so for
the foreseeable future.
----------------------------------------------------
2. Feb 25:
我问他：485inventory终于出来了，eb3c和row存量太少，你的排期预测太保守了。应
该放开了继续前进。
他回答：The EB-3 cut-off date has been moved forward five years during the
past year in an effort to generate demand. That action should provide a
sufficient “pool” of eligible applicants to fully utilize all available
numbers under the annual limit. The situation is being monitored, and if
necessary further movements will be initiated at some point.
我当时告诉板斧我认为他的回复是good sign，他还不清楚pool有多大，有机会继续前
进。
------------------------------------------------------
3. March 26:
我问他：你对上个月做出的排期预测还confident吗？
他回：My estimates stand, but read the last paragraph ot the item. Changes (
good/bad) could happen at any time, that is one of the problems with the
lack of USCIS data.
--------------------------------------------------------
希望fuwu公开一下和凹本沟通的内容，帮助大伙预测。
