f*m
2 楼
听版上说的。真的吗?刚拒了M的一个offer,package很不靠谱,recruiter还很牛气,
“微软向来不match任何offer”。看来拒了是对的。
“微软向来不match任何offer”。看来拒了是对的。
b*y
3 楼
在UA网站看到的
m*5
4 楼
刚收到email,
On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
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从版上获益良多,包子有限,烦请版主发了吧。多谢!
On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
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从版上获益良多,包子有限,烦请版主发了吧。多谢!
h*v
5 楼
真是羞死人了:)
z*e
6 楼
大公司裁人不是新闻
不裁人才是新闻
不裁人才是新闻
p*o
8 楼
gxgx!
go
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g*j
9 楼
这么多
w*h
11 楼
jump
r*h
12 楼
恭喜恭喜
go
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c*n
13 楼
又来一个自我恐慌的。
b*m
14 楼
每时每刻都在裁,楼主才知道?不match别家offer是有原因的,一个是budget批不下来
,还有就是99%的人不值得match。
,还有就是99%的人不值得match。
j*n
16 楼
gxgx
go
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go
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y*o
19 楼
cong!
go
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go
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n*o
22 楼
gx!
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
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go
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L*I
25 楼
恭喜!
刚收到email,On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
LIN159xxxxxxx,........
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刚收到email,On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
LIN159xxxxxxx,........
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u*u
28 楼
cong
h*t
30 楼
很好的offer 了
G*h
31 楼
恭喜
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
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go
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p*2
32 楼
我觉得牛不牛也不是M一家说了算的。况且M各个组也不一样。有些组budget多可以
match,有些组budget低不能match。用match不match来说明一个人牛不牛也不是很靠谱
。当然了,我个人觉得M的人还都是挺牛气的。
【在 d********u 的大作中提到】
: 牛人,你题做得太多了,连说都不会话了。你牛,别人就MATCH;你不牛,人家就不
: MATCH。很复杂吗?你如果觉得所有的面试官都没发现你的才干,还是自己回地下室孤
: 芳自赏吧。
: 说个极端的,把LZ换成QI LU,你看别人MATCH不。
: 你还处于做题的阶段,找工作还没入门呢。没有贬低的意思,是实话,每个人当年都是
: 这么走过来的。
w*y
34 楼
恭喜!派包子。
go
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h*a
35 楼
Nod,很多时候要看背景和position是不是match。搞IT的万金油牛人没那么多,Qi Lu
如果不是去OSD而是去Xbox面试SVP,能不能拿到offer都不一定,呵呵。对我们这些码
农,尤其是对experienced 的candidate,很多时候是你过去的经验决定了人家愿意给
你package。
而且绝大部分公司对一个特定的职位,package都有明确的range,即使candidate再合
适也不会无限上涨去match别家的offer。
【在 p*****2 的大作中提到】
:
: 我觉得牛不牛也不是M一家说了算的。况且M各个组也不一样。有些组budget多可以
: match,有些组budget低不能match。用match不match来说明一个人牛不牛也不是很靠谱
: 。当然了,我个人觉得M的人还都是挺牛气的。
如果不是去OSD而是去Xbox面试SVP,能不能拿到offer都不一定,呵呵。对我们这些码
农,尤其是对experienced 的candidate,很多时候是你过去的经验决定了人家愿意给
你package。
而且绝大部分公司对一个特定的职位,package都有明确的range,即使candidate再合
适也不会无限上涨去match别家的offer。
【在 p*****2 的大作中提到】
:
: 我觉得牛不牛也不是M一家说了算的。况且M各个组也不一样。有些组budget多可以
: match,有些组budget低不能match。用match不match来说明一个人牛不牛也不是很靠谱
: 。当然了,我个人觉得M的人还都是挺牛气的。
d*0
36 楼
搜机票会弹出来的
v*6
37 楼
cong
o*l
39 楼
已跳。。
l*l
40 楼
恭喜
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
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: RD: 5/20/2015
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: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
go
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r*n
41 楼
This is actually not true. In M, it's all depended on hiring manager. They
can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
【在 p*****2 的大作中提到】
:
: 我觉得牛不牛也不是M一家说了算的。况且M各个组也不一样。有些组budget多可以
: match,有些组budget低不能match。用match不match来说明一个人牛不牛也不是很靠谱
: 。当然了,我个人觉得M的人还都是挺牛气的。
can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
【在 p*****2 的大作中提到】
:
: 我觉得牛不牛也不是M一家说了算的。况且M各个组也不一样。有些组budget多可以
: match,有些组budget低不能match。用match不match来说明一个人牛不牛也不是很靠谱
: 。当然了,我个人觉得M的人还都是挺牛气的。
b*u
43 楼
cong
b*y
45 楼
没有link, 在ua网站搜机票会弹出来,注意看信用卡广告
e*8
46 楼
gx
p*2
47 楼
less
to
这个说法感觉也不是完全。
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】
: This is actually not true. In M, it's all depended on hiring manager. They
: can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
: I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
: than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
: give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
: other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
: Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
b*y
48 楼
没有link, 在ua网站搜机票会弹出来,注意看信用卡广告
M*r
49 楼
cong!
h*a
50 楼
事事无绝对,Fresh hire其实有很大的灵活性。G的fresh Ph.D. offer相对比较死板,
127K + 160 shares RSU几乎是一成不变的package,除非有F或T这样同等公司的更好
package,轻易G不会涨价。对M而言,M如果想match G的这个模板package至少要Lv 61
才行,甚至一般要Lv 62。其实这也正说明了对于一个给定的position,比如级别已经
确定,package的range是比较固定的,一般要通过提高级别来达到钱数的提高。
less
to
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】
: This is actually not true. In M, it's all depended on hiring manager. They
: can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
: I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
: than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
: give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
: other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
: Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
127K + 160 shares RSU几乎是一成不变的package,除非有F或T这样同等公司的更好
package,轻易G不会涨价。对M而言,M如果想match G的这个模板package至少要Lv 61
才行,甚至一般要Lv 62。其实这也正说明了对于一个给定的position,比如级别已经
确定,package的range是比较固定的,一般要通过提高级别来达到钱数的提高。
less
to
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】
: This is actually not true. In M, it's all depended on hiring manager. They
: can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
: I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
: than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
: give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
: other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
: Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
k*n
51 楼
what is for 5000?
a*y
52 楼
gxgx
a*y
55 楼
gxgx
C*y
56 楼
M家的team都是各自为战,codebase很多都很老,很怪
fresh的拿level 61+的,而且去的是产品组,跟同level的比review会很危险
因为熟悉codebase不是一时半会就能搞定的
less
to
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】
: This is actually not true. In M, it's all depended on hiring manager. They
: can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
: I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
: than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
: give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
: other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
: Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
fresh的拿level 61+的,而且去的是产品组,跟同level的比review会很危险
因为熟悉codebase不是一时半会就能搞定的
less
to
【在 r**********n 的大作中提到】
: This is actually not true. In M, it's all depended on hiring manager. They
: can match if they really want. Budget is never a problem.
: I actually see a fresh PhD hired as lvl 62 and her total package isn't less
: than Google. She then chose M instead of G. Her hiring manager is willing to
: give a big package. However, it bring negative impact to her team since
: other people in the team don't feel it's fair.
: Match or non match depends on a lot of factors.
L*e
57 楼
为神马我看到的是花3000地,楼主截图是花2000地= =
P*1
58 楼
恭喜
y*5
61 楼
恭喜,沾喜气
s*6
63 楼
恭喜恭喜
为什么我们4/24/2015的还没消息 真希望也快了
为什么我们4/24/2015的还没消息 真希望也快了
v*1
65 楼
鼓掌
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
: On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
: LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
: to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
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: NSC
: PD: 5/2011
: RD: 5/20/2015
: EAD: 8/16/2015
: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
: On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
: LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
: to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
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: RD: 5/20/2015
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: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
f*m
66 楼
所以牛人们都去别的欣赏他们的公司去了,因为M觉得绝大多数人不值得match。然后别
的公司变得更牛。然后M开始裁人。然后M继续不match。然后。。。
说来也怪,我经历过的几乎所有的公司,大的小的,都会考虑一定程度的match。还是M
牛!
如果绝大多数公司都觉得你还行,考虑你的水平和工作经验以及手中的offers,而M认
为你是个不值得match的人,就给你这么多,这么高的level,再加上一句“M从不match
任何offer”,那么大家会去哪里?
【在 b***m 的大作中提到】
: 每时每刻都在裁,楼主才知道?不match别家offer是有原因的,一个是budget批不下来
: ,还有就是99%的人不值得match。
的公司变得更牛。然后M开始裁人。然后M继续不match。然后。。。
说来也怪,我经历过的几乎所有的公司,大的小的,都会考虑一定程度的match。还是M
牛!
如果绝大多数公司都觉得你还行,考虑你的水平和工作经验以及手中的offers,而M认
为你是个不值得match的人,就给你这么多,这么高的level,再加上一句“M从不match
任何offer”,那么大家会去哪里?
【在 b***m 的大作中提到】
: 每时每刻都在裁,楼主才知道?不match别家offer是有原因的,一个是budget批不下来
: ,还有就是99%的人不值得match。
b*3
67 楼
gxgx
m*g
69 楼
恭喜
i*y
71 楼
cong
u*u
73 楼
cong
M*s
75 楼
Cong
m*5
77 楼
快了,祝早绿!
:恭喜恭喜
:为什么我们4/24/2015的还没消息 真希望也快了
:恭喜恭喜
:为什么我们4/24/2015的还没消息 真希望也快了
i*0
78 楼
M has RSU worth G's 160 shares? 不能相信啊,往往听说的都是7千刀的RSU,还分5
年给,哈哈,平均每年1500刀的RSU都不到
M 和G的主要差别就在stock上吧。 base反而差别不大
61
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 事事无绝对,Fresh hire其实有很大的灵活性。G的fresh Ph.D. offer相对比较死板,
: 127K + 160 shares RSU几乎是一成不变的package,除非有F或T这样同等公司的更好
: package,轻易G不会涨价。对M而言,M如果想match G的这个模板package至少要Lv 61
: 才行,甚至一般要Lv 62。其实这也正说明了对于一个给定的position,比如级别已经
: 确定,package的range是比较固定的,一般要通过提高级别来达到钱数的提高。
:
: less
: to
年给,哈哈,平均每年1500刀的RSU都不到
M 和G的主要差别就在stock上吧。 base反而差别不大
61
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 事事无绝对,Fresh hire其实有很大的灵活性。G的fresh Ph.D. offer相对比较死板,
: 127K + 160 shares RSU几乎是一成不变的package,除非有F或T这样同等公司的更好
: package,轻易G不会涨价。对M而言,M如果想match G的这个模板package至少要Lv 61
: 才行,甚至一般要Lv 62。其实这也正说明了对于一个给定的position,比如级别已经
: 确定,package的range是比较固定的,一般要通过提高级别来达到钱数的提高。
:
: less
: to
k*1
79 楼
恭喜恭喜
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
: On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
: LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
: to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
: Timeline
: NSC
: PD: 5/2011
: RD: 5/20/2015
: EAD: 8/16/2015
: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
: On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
: LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
: to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
: Timeline
: NSC
: PD: 5/2011
: RD: 5/20/2015
: EAD: 8/16/2015
: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
j*n
81 楼
恭喜恭喜。
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
: On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
: LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
: to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
: Timeline
: NSC
: PD: 5/2011
: RD: 5/20/2015
: EAD: 8/16/2015
: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
go
【在 m*******5 的大作中提到】
: 刚收到email,
: On October 22, 2015, we ordered your new card for Receipt Number
: LIN159xxxxxxx, and will mail it to the address you gave us. If you move, go
: to www.uscis.gov/addresschange to give us your new mailing address.
: Timeline
: NSC
: PD: 5/2011
: RD: 5/20/2015
: EAD: 8/16/2015
: 485 AD: 10/22/2015
m*1
83 楼
gx
b*m
84 楼
Z*I
85 楼
恭喜
H*C
87 楼
cong
u*0
89 楼
cong
w*g
103 楼
在美国职场的中国人一般来说英语不好,不懂得跟上级沟通的艺术,不懂得西方文化里
面正面对抗的艺术,遇事一味退缩, 还有喜欢单打独斗。阿三对中国人的这些软肋看
得很清楚, 所以敢肆无忌惮欺负中国人, 特别是那些知道埋头苦干,不知道沟通重要
性的中国人。
面正面对抗的艺术,遇事一味退缩, 还有喜欢单打独斗。阿三对中国人的这些软肋看
得很清楚, 所以敢肆无忌惮欺负中国人, 特别是那些知道埋头苦干,不知道沟通重要
性的中国人。
b*o
104 楼
大牛能不能普及一下微软61-65级的股票大致都是多少啊?
61
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 事事无绝对,Fresh hire其实有很大的灵活性。G的fresh Ph.D. offer相对比较死板,
: 127K + 160 shares RSU几乎是一成不变的package,除非有F或T这样同等公司的更好
: package,轻易G不会涨价。对M而言,M如果想match G的这个模板package至少要Lv 61
: 才行,甚至一般要Lv 62。其实这也正说明了对于一个给定的position,比如级别已经
: 确定,package的range是比较固定的,一般要通过提高级别来达到钱数的提高。
:
: less
: to
61
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 事事无绝对,Fresh hire其实有很大的灵活性。G的fresh Ph.D. offer相对比较死板,
: 127K + 160 shares RSU几乎是一成不变的package,除非有F或T这样同等公司的更好
: package,轻易G不会涨价。对M而言,M如果想match G的这个模板package至少要Lv 61
: 才行,甚至一般要Lv 62。其实这也正说明了对于一个给定的position,比如级别已经
: 确定,package的range是比较固定的,一般要通过提高级别来达到钱数的提高。
:
: less
: to
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