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d*g
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【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 为什么亚裔远离了共和党? (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 5 23:46:32 2016, 美东)
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: USANews
标 题: 为什么亚裔远离了共和党?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 5 23:44:40 2016, 美东)
1992年,只有36%的亚裔投票给民主党
2008年,64%的亚裔投票给民主党
2012年,73%的亚裔投票给民主党
是亚裔吃福利的,比其他族群多吗?
不是。
2009年统计表明,亚裔的收入远高于其他族群。
亚裔的中位家庭收入是65500美元,白人是51900美元,西班牙裔38000美元,黑人32600
美元。
那么,是亚裔无知吗?
在美国,教育程度最高的族裔,是亚裔。
那么,是亚裔犯贱吗?
美国新闻版的极右会大声说,是!然后用各种各样的恶心的污言秽语招呼任何跟他们政
见不同的华人。
我想说,你们赢了。
你们2008年就赢了。
你们2012又赢了。
你们帮助民主党赢了。
2016年,你们还会赢!
下面这篇文章,详尽分析了为什么亚裔越来越远离共和党的原因。不一定全面,但是,
文章提到了金博士永远不会投任何共和党人任何一票的原因!
During the recent No Labels-hosted Problem Solver Convention in New
Hampshire, things got a little uncomfortable.
When Joseph Choe, an Asian American college student, stood up to ask a
question about South Korea, Donald Trump cut him off and wondered aloud: “
Are you from South Korea?”
Choe responded, “I’m not. I was born in Texas, raised in Colorado.” His
answer prompted laughter from the audience, and nothing more than a shrug
from the GOP presidential candidate.
Media outlets like NPR and the Huffington Post mocked this interaction as a
“Where are you from?” moment.
A fellow conference attendee who walked by Choe subsequently joked, “You’
re gonna have to show him your birth certificate, man!”
Although Trump probably did not intend to offend, this interaction likely
reminded Choe and other Asian American voters that being Asian often
translates to being perceived by fellow Americans as a foreigner.
However innocuous Trump’s question may seem, this is exactly the sort of
exchange that could, in part, be pushing Asian Americans – the highest-
income, most-educated, and fastest-growing segment of the United States–
toward the Democratic Party by landslide margins.
A landslide for Obama
In the 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama won 73 percent of the Asian
American vote. That exceeded his support among traditional Democratic Party
constituencies like Hispanics (71 percent) and women (55 percent).
Republicans should be alarmed by this statistic, as Asians weren’t always
so far out of reach for Republicans.
When we examine presidential exit polls, we see that 74 percent of the Asian
American vote went to the Republican presidential candidate just two
decades ago. The Democratic presidential vote share among Asian Americans
has steadily increased from 36 percent in 1992, to 64 percent in the 2008
election to 73 percent in 2012. Asian Americans were also one of the rare
groups that were more favorable to President Obama in the latter election.
This dramatic change in party preference is stunning. No other group has
shifted so dramatically in its party identification within such a short time
period. Some are calling it the “GOP’s Asian erosion.”
Moreover, Asian Americans as a group have a number of attributes that would
usually predict an affinity for the Republican Party.
American Enterprise Institute’s notes:
“If you’re looking for a natural Republican constituency, Asians should
define ‘natural’ … And yet something has happened to define conservatism
in the minds of Asians as deeply unattractive.”
As shown by Andrew Gelman and his coauthors in their book “Red State, Blue
State, Rich State, Poor State: Why Americans Vote the Way They Do,” income
is a powerful driver of political party preferences. Generally, richer
voters are more likely to vote Republican.
Asian Americans’ income is, on average, higher than any other ethnic group
in the United States. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2009, the
median Asian household had a higher income ($65,469) than the median white
household ($51,863). Median black and Hispanic household incomes were $32,
584 and $38,039, respectively.
So why are Asian Americans leaning left instead of right?
My research with Alexander Kuo and Neil Malhotra offers one explanation. The
feeling of social exclusion stemming from their ethnic background might be
pushing Asian Americans away from the Republican Party.
The hated question
Asian Americans are regularly made to feel like foreigners in their own
country through “innocent” racial microaggressions. Microaggressions are“
everyday insults, indignities and demeaning messages sent to people of color
by well-intentioned white people who are unaware of the hidden messages
being sent.” An example is being asked “Where are you really from?” –
after answering the question “Where are you from?” with a location within
the United States. Another is being complimented on one’s great English-
speaking skills. In both cases, the underlying assumption is that Asian
Americans are outsiders.
According to a 2005 study by Sapna Cheryan and Benoit Monin, Asian Americans
are right to feel excluded. The study shows Asian Americans are seen as
less American than other Americans.
A 2008 study by Thierry Devos and Debbie Ma confirmed this result. The study
found that in the mind of the average American, a white European celebrity
(Kate Winslet) is considered more American than an Asian American celebrity
(Lucy Liu).
But while Asian Americans are perceived as less American by other ethnic
groups, Cheryan and Monin found that Asian Americans are just as likely as
white Americans to self-identify as American and hold patriotic attitudes.
This makes attacks on their identity as Americans hurtful.
The impact of racial microaggressions on exclusionary feelings can be
magnified in political contexts, such as advertisements, political rhetoric,
and policy positions on issues related to Asians like immigration.
How is this politically consequential?
We posit that rhetoric from Republicans insinuating that nonwhite “takers”
are taking away from white “makers,” as well as their strong anti-
immigrant positions, has cultivated a perception that the Republican Party
is less welcoming of minorities. Since the Democratic Party is seen as less
exclusionary, we find that triggering feelings of social exclusion makes
Asian Americans favor Democrats.
We conducted an experiment in which Asian Americans were brought into a
university laboratory. Half were randomly subjected to a seemingly benign
racial microaggression like Trump’s clueless remarks to Choe before being
asked to fill out a political survey. The white assistant was instructed to
tell half of the study participants, “I’m sorry. I forgot that this study
is only for US citizens. Are you a US citizen? I cannot tell.”
Asian Americans who were exposed to this race-based presumption of “not
belonging” were more likely to identify strongly as a Democrat. They were
also more likely to view Republicans generally as close-minded and ignorant,
less likely to represent people like them, and to have more negative
feelings toward them.
Our finding is remarkable given that the racial microaggression was
mentioned only once, and was of the most benign nature. Our experiment
confirms that Asian Americans associate feelings of social exclusion based
on their ethnic background with the Republican Party.
Social exclusion based on race is common
When we examined the 2008 National Asian American Survey (NAAS), a
nationally representative sample of over 5,000 Asian Americans and Pacific
Islanders, we found that self-reported racial discrimination, a proxy for
feelings of social exclusion, was positively correlated with identification
with the Democratic Party over the Republican Party.
Analyzing the NAAS data, we find that racial discrimination is not rare.
Nearly 40 percent of Asian Americans suffered at least one of the following
forms of racial discrimination in their lifetime:
being unfairly denied a job or fired
being unfairly denied a promotion at work
being unfairly treated by the police
being unfairly prevented from renting or buying a home
treated unfairly at a restaurant or other place of service being a victim of
a hate crime.
It is important to note that our findings do not mean that social exclusion
is the only reason why Asian Americans are Democrats. However, they do
provide some insight on why Asian Americans are leaning left today.
Significance of the Asian American vote
Understanding Asian American political behavior has important electoral
ramifications. According to a 2013 US Census report, while Asian Americans
are only 5 percent of the U.S. population and about 4 percent of voters, in
some states they make up a considerably higher proportion of the electorate.
Asian Americans make of 12 percent of likely voters in California. They are
projected to become 9 percent of the overall U.S. population by 2015.
Since 1996, the number of Asian Americans who cast votes has increased by
105 percent, in contrast to a 13 percent increase among white voters.
Additionally, while the lion’s share of Asian American votes are going to
Democratic candidates, according to Zoltan Hajnal and Taeku Lee, the
majority of Asian Americans are not officially affiliated with any party.
That means they’re “gettable” by either party.
So what can the GOP do to win the Asian American vote?
The short answer is, not what they are currently doing.
As long as Republicans appear unwelcoming of minorities, our findings
suggest, they will struggle to get Asian Americans’ electoral support.
Recent rhetoric around immigration reform from leading Republican
presidential candidates goes beyond subtle racial microaggressions. The
current Republican candidates are being explicitly exclusionary. Donald
Trump and Ben Carson are doubling down on anti-immigrant sentiments, stating
sweeping and offensive stereotypes of immigrants.
Jeb Bush, rather than apologizing for the use of the offensive term “anchor
babies,” defended the use of the term by redirecting the conversation away
from Latino immigrants to Asian immigrants.
Our study suggests that the increasing salience of issues like immigration
that implicitly or explicitly offend minority groups coupled with
exclusionary rhetoric from prominent leaders of the Republican Party will
continue to push Asian Americans to the Democratic Party.
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c*g
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06-08年我在美国做博士后,现在国内工作。请问我可以在中国完成申请绿卡的工作吗?
按照现在的排期,NIW大概要多久能拿绿卡?
拿到绿卡,我是不是必须放弃中国的工作,到美国找一个全职工作?
期待知情人的指教,万分感谢!
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z*6
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TSC
pd 04/26/13
Rd 06/02/15
Current 09/01/17
Rfe1 medical 09/06/17, rrfe1 09/25/17
Rfe2 j form etc 11/03/17, rrfe2 12/08/17
议员 SR 01/17/18
议员 response 01/17/18 in line to an officer
SR response 01/22/18 with an officer
we ordered your new card(如果这是绿的话): 01/23/18,主副短信相差半小时
1:RFE 最好顺便把j form交了省得来两遍
2.该催就催吧别不好意思
祝大家都顺利!感谢这里大家的答疑和一路陪伴!
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d*g
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-us/why-asian-ame
有趣。。这版上不都是共和党的吗。。 :)
ANYWAY,此帖不为吵政治架,为理解娃们的心理状态。问我从哪里来,我不在乎
。但我娃会不会在乎?文中一问,我都替娃被HURT了一下。。
要不要给娃打预防针呢?思考中。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
: 发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: SanFrancisco
: 标 题: 为什么亚裔远离了共和党? (转载)
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 5 23:46:32 2016, 美东)
: 发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: USANews
: 标 题: 为什么亚裔远离了共和党?
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 5 23:44:40 2016, 美东)
: 1992年,只有36%的亚裔投票给民主党
: 2008年,64%的亚裔投票给民主党
: 2012年,73%的亚裔投票给民主党

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A*n
5
Based on law and regulations: You are qualified to apply to become the
president of China.
Do you think that, based on law and regulations, you have chance to replace
Xi?
The same mechanism for you to apply green card when physically in China.
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i*e
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恭喜
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d*g
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"in the mind of the average American, a white European celebrity (Kate
Winslet) is considered more American than an Asian American celebrity (Lucy
Liu)."
But while Asian Americans are perceived as less American by other ethnic
groups, Cheryan and Monin found that Asian Americans are just as likely as
white Americans to self-identify as American and hold patriotic attitudes.
This makes attacks on their identity as Americans hurtful.

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-us/why-asian-ame
: 有趣。。这版上不都是共和党的吗。。 :)
: ANYWAY,此帖不为吵政治架,为理解娃们的心理状态。问我从哪里来,我不在乎
: 。但我娃会不会在乎?文中一问,我都替娃被HURT了一下。。
: 要不要给娃打预防针呢?思考中。

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l*l
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Eb1a应该是完全可以的
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M*7
9
看起来TSC的真的是慢啊,看来需要找议员去催了。
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a*i
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粪坑你肿么啦?怎么到处发这种东西?
是不是身患绝症指着O8 care活命呢?
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b*n
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是,但会继续对美国做出贡献这条,不太容易说服IO。或者说,评审条件可能更高

【在 l***l 的大作中提到】
: Eb1a应该是完全可以的
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a*a
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楼主是两人的485一起交的还是分开交的?
如果是后者,如何操作使得两人的485放到一起审?

【在 z****6 的大作中提到】
: TSC
: pd 04/26/13
: Rd 06/02/15
: Current 09/01/17
: Rfe1 medical 09/06/17, rrfe1 09/25/17
: Rfe2 j form etc 11/03/17, rrfe2 12/08/17
: 议员 SR 01/17/18
: 议员 response 01/17/18 in line to an officer
: SR response 01/22/18 with an officer
: we ordered your new card(如果这是绿的话): 01/23/18,主副短信相差半小时

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a*l
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说真的这棒子也自恨的可以.他就那么羞于承认自己家是从韩国过来的?

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: "in the mind of the average American, a white European celebrity (Kate
: Winslet) is considered more American than an Asian American celebrity (Lucy
: Liu)."
: But while Asian Americans are perceived as less American by other ethnic
: groups, Cheryan and Monin found that Asian Americans are just as likely as
: white Americans to self-identify as American and hold patriotic attitudes.
: This makes attacks on their identity as Americans hurtful.

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l*7
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FORGET ABOUT THIS if u are not doing resaerch work in US ...how would u
convince IO that u are contributing the USA? in mist cases, u should be
physically living angle working in US.

吗?

【在 c*********g 的大作中提到】
: 06-08年我在美国做博士后,现在国内工作。请问我可以在中国完成申请绿卡的工作吗?
: 按照现在的排期,NIW大概要多久能拿绿卡?
: 拿到绿卡,我是不是必须放弃中国的工作,到美国找一个全职工作?
: 期待知情人的指教,万分感谢!

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s*l
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恭喜楼主,请问什么情况需要J表呢?eb2降级eb3肯定要吗?我目前的RFE只要求了
medical,不知道要不要自己准备J表
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d*g
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人家不是德州出生的吗?

【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: 说真的这棒子也自恨的可以.他就那么羞于承认自己家是从韩国过来的?
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d*r
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不知道你这种说法从何而来,claim了3条之后,只需要证明来美国后将继续从事原专业
领域并对美国有益处即可,这个甚至一个简短的职业发展计划就可以搞定。
Eb1a条文里的contribution并没有说要对美国有贡献,而是对专业领域有贡献即可。

【在 l******7 的大作中提到】
: FORGET ABOUT THIS if u are not doing resaerch work in US ...how would u
: convince IO that u are contributing the USA? in mist cases, u should be
: physically living angle working in US.
:
: 吗?

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z*6
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我们是一起交的...


: 楼主是两人的485一起交的还是分开交的?

: 如果是后者,如何操作使得两人的485放到一起审?



【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 楼主是两人的485一起交的还是分开交的?
: 如果是后者,如何操作使得两人的485放到一起审?

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f*n
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我依稀记得这个人去韩国国会干过啥,我还记得他有一张韩国国会大厅的照片。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 人家不是德州出生的吗?
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i*t
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eb 是基于 工作的 没工作怎么申请?

【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 不知道你这种说法从何而来,claim了3条之后,只需要证明来美国后将继续从事原专业
: 领域并对美国有益处即可,这个甚至一个简短的职业发展计划就可以搞定。
: Eb1a条文里的contribution并没有说要对美国有贡献,而是对专业领域有贡献即可。

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z*6
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我们是一起交的...


: 楼主是两人的485一起交的还是分开交的?

: 如果是后者,如何操作使得两人的485放到一起审?



【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】
: 楼主是两人的485一起交的还是分开交的?
: 如果是后者,如何操作使得两人的485放到一起审?

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k*n
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不用. 每个人有自己的活法,你的经历你娃不可能重复,他的生活你其实也很难干预.
如果我不给我娃付大学学费,她要去投三德子我还拦着, 于情于理我都说不过去.否则三
德子拿到大部分小年轻的票,怎么解释
只不过最大程度说明我教育失败的地方在于只告诉从k到12她该怎样听我的,全不会自己
思考如果大学真免费了,成功的时候,她是买家不是卖家.
换句话说,我和我娃理念不同关系不大, 她年轻的时候完全可以觉得整个世界还可以挥
霍,世界大同公平最好.我老的时候,已知资源有限,保守点看着自己的小家比较安全.共
和党历史上确实不看少数族裔,有它自己的问题,民主党不是看得起少数族裔,而是需要
他们的选票,这个道理需要时间来消化.所以我对娃娃没有期待,只要她愿意自己选择就好
回头来说,如果大学真要免费(公大学费越来越贵是不争的事实),我觉得按照美国现状,
执政党如果要做什么,和全民健保一样,今年退税就要附上医保单,就只能立法规定大学
必须怎样.大学实际的应对方法.就是广建凤凰大学这样的网上模式,低成本提供网上文
凭. 有质量的文凭还是去教室上课,价格不会低下来

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-conversation-us/why-asian-ame
: 有趣。。这版上不都是共和党的吗。。 :)
: ANYWAY,此帖不为吵政治架,为理解娃们的心理状态。问我从哪里来,我不在乎
: 。但我娃会不会在乎?文中一问,我都替娃被HURT了一下。。
: 要不要给娃打预防针呢?思考中。

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d*r
23
eb1a不是例外么?

【在 i******t 的大作中提到】
: eb 是基于 工作的 没工作怎么申请?
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z*6
24
不麻烦的话最好一起把J表交了免得和我一样(好像以前也有几个类似的情况)遭两遍
罪,白白耽误几个月 闹心。当然这只是个建议。如果你目前工作和140一样的话,j表
里好像有个选项是没换工作。


: 恭喜楼主,请问什么情况需要J表呢?eb2降级eb3肯定要吗?我目前的RFE只要求了

: medical,不知道要不要自己准备J表



【在 s******l 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜楼主,请问什么情况需要J表呢?eb2降级eb3肯定要吗?我目前的RFE只要求了
: medical,不知道要不要自己准备J表

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N*M
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俺也是亚裔,但是从来没有支持过民主党
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C*d
26
基本上这个很难

吗?

【在 c*********g 的大作中提到】
: 06-08年我在美国做博士后,现在国内工作。请问我可以在中国完成申请绿卡的工作吗?
: 按照现在的排期,NIW大概要多久能拿绿卡?
: 拿到绿卡,我是不是必须放弃中国的工作,到美国找一个全职工作?
: 期待知情人的指教,万分感谢!

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W*n
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恭喜楼主,我的情况和楼主非常类似,也是给折腾了两次RFE,第一次没有明确要j
form,第二次要j form,不一次要全了,TSC这帮人简直是折腾人。。。
另外同意楼主的建议,别不好意思,该让senator或者congressman出面的还要出面。上
次congressman一催,很快就有了进展。

求了

【在 z****6 的大作中提到】
: 不麻烦的话最好一起把J表交了免得和我一样(好像以前也有几个类似的情况)遭两遍
: 罪,白白耽误几个月 闹心。当然这只是个建议。如果你目前工作和140一样的话,j表
: 里好像有个选项是没换工作。
:
:
: 恭喜楼主,请问什么情况需要J表呢?eb2降级eb3肯定要吗?我目前的RFE只要求了
:
: medical,不知道要不要自己准备J表
:

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m*7
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they still ask ur employ letter in 485
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s*u
29
eb1a is still an employment based petition.
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w*m
30
eb是什么意思?

【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: eb1a不是例外么?
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s*c
31
lz倒也可以试试,,,人不在美国是可以交140的(不用雇主支持的eb1a和niw),niw
要说明国家利益,人不在美国如何在为国家利益作贡献比较难说。以后找个工作来美国
交485或者境外consular processing,感觉成功率不会很高但可以试试,反正也不损失
什么

【在 m********7 的大作中提到】
: they still ask ur employ letter in 485
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m*7
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我的一个朋友交i140 eb1a, ref 时要求提供雇主提供的工作证明了。
当然,他们的485之后交的,反而没有要。
都是个例,风险自己承担
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m*7
33
我的一个朋友交 I140 eb1a 时, ref了, 要求递交雇主提供的工作证明信。
当然,他们140批了之后的485 没有要求工作信
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l*7
34
如果你是走EB-1,2技术类申请,140阶段杯具的可能性非常大,IO是需要employment-
based申请者目前正在并且获得绿卡后将来也一直为美帝服务做贡献的。很多人会说NIW
可以不需要,这搁在5年或者10年前或许可以,但是现在水涨船高,绿卡申请很多材料
都比较主观,IO对申请者的要求也高。一个正在美国的职位,是起码的要求。
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A*n
35
Never heard about such an actual and successful EB case. But I know of
little.
Shift to Canada, there such technical immigration, which one is in China
physically, are welcomed. Huge amount of successful cases.
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q*a
36
NIW不容易申请,因为你人不在美国,比较难说服移民官你的工作对于美国国家利益有
帮助。
但人在境外可以申请EB1A,只要证明自己足够优秀并且来美国后会继续从事相关领域内
的工作就可以。I-140递交过程跟美国境内是一样的,只是身份调整阶段不一样。境外
申请不是走I-485,而是走consular processing。
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