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c*x2011-06-18 07:06

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发信人: midwinter0 (), 信区: Military
标题: 想告学校，但没钱，大家资助不？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 2 16:19:17 2017, 美东)
http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article_t.php?board=Military&gid=48144675&ftype=0
这里人气旺，占用点版面啊。
本人phd学生，在校5年。受不了导师的虐待，奋起反抗，结果导师和他以前的一个学生
倒打一把，诬告我学术剽窃。忍无可忍。决定告老师或学校。手上导师误导性指导，学
术造假，剽窃我的工作的证据充分。
赢了官司,不知道律师是不是要分成，只要是属于我的部分, 本人拿走20%外，80%给出
资者按出资比例分成,没用完的钱也按比例退回。出资名单，金额公布在版上，资本总
额达到2.5 万就暂停招募资金。
如果官司输了，除了证明美国学术界黑暗外还是只有黑暗。大家投入的钱就当做是做慈
善，其他的法律后果风险，比如坐牢什么的, 本人一律承担。
出了律师费，律师应该不会参与分成.
Our attorneys spend, on average, 90 minutes reviewing documents, researching
, and consulting with you to determine the best course of action. This is
what the $300 consult fee covers. If you decide that the best course of
action is to proceed with a demand process and a formal claim, we charge a $
4,000-$5,000 flat fee for that service. If litigation is warranted, we work
off of $15,000 retainers and bill at $350 per hour.
如果有人愿意单独资助，可私信我，我会取消这里的资金招募帖。不过想必不会有啊。
所有的宝贵意见都欢迎，但带情绪的，想冷嘈热讽，或彰显自己成功及优越的同学就留
留口德，留言时想想是否会给别人伤害，要不然一边呆着去。

z*82011-06-18 07:06

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【以下文字转载自 Living 讨论区】
发信人: zhang88 (david), 信区: Living
标题: 拍西瓜,老中聪明最专家,youtube首次西瓜大全第一
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 4 17:08:34 2014, 美东)
拍西瓜，老中聪明最专家，youtube首次西瓜大全第一
这个拍西瓜的不容易，这板上有几个人要求, 我重新拍视频拍了N遍，牛人指教了M遍，
赶在过节时完成。

u*u2011-06-18 07:06

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m*02011-06-18 07:06

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哈哈，多谢转载

z*82011-06-18 07:06

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and better than most of your friends.

u*u2011-06-18 07:06

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ACCOUNTING ERP 的问题（痛苦中求问）
来源: fountaingrass 于 2011-06-17 14:21:27
我的帖子快被淹没了，只能再发一遍ACCOUNTING ERP，有童鞋去自费学ORACLE，SAP
的ERP吗，很多人据说都是工作中学的，但DILIMMA是没有ERP的经验怎么去找ERP的工作
呢？有ERP经验的童鞋们你们都是在哪里学的？给些HINT，还想问大家，学ORACLE 好
还是SAP好？有ORACLE，SAP 是不是就有ACCOUNTING职业发展的空间，我指的是JOB
SECURITY，JOB MARKET DEMAND，SALARY等。望各位给与指教，谢谢。
---------------
回复：ACCOUNTING ERP 的问题（痛苦中求问）
来源: 美国老土于 2011-06-17 14:48:50
-- Many ERP systems are being used in all sorts of business, for example, to
get the cheaper one: google Open Source ERP, you will get many. For the
large ERP system, you can find the top ten by click here: The top 10 ERP.
-- ERP means Enterprise Resource Planing, it contains many differnet
packages and modules. The most popular is Finance package, it contains basic
modules like AR, AP, GL, AM, no matter what kind of business the company do
, they will always need Finance modules.
-- Depends on the business, the other packages are Supply Chain Mamagement,
Manufacture, HR, CRM, BI etc.
-- Since the Financial package is the most popular one, as a Accounting
expert you have advantage than other people who do not know what AR, AP, GL
meant.
-- However, directly jump into EPR position is hard, because you do not have
basic database skill.
-- No matter what kind of ERP the company use, Oracle, SAP, or Microsoft, or
Open Source free ERP, there always be databases behind it, and always
require you to know SQL language to put database into database and pull data
out to generate the report, like daily report, weekly report, end of the
month, end of the quater, end of year report, or, like trial balance report
(which many people don't know what it means.)
-- Therefore, the first step toward ERP job is not about Oracle or SAP or
Microsoft, its about do you know business concept (which you already knew)
and database, do you know SQL?
-- Without Database foundamental skills, any ERP training will be rootless.
-- Get Database skill, find a Analyst job as the enter point, then find out
what ERP system is being used in that company, then get familiar with it,
then join the company paied training.
This is the best and shortest way to become a ERP professional.
Wish this answered your question.
Email me if you need more answers. I do teach ERP system modules. Therefore,
I know GL, AR, AP, set of books and 3C. (Do you know 3C?)
You are in the right direction...
------------------------------
你的会计背景？目标职位？
来源: 醉里吴音于 2011-06-17 18:55:43
如果你是AR AP General accountant的话，越大型的ERP，end user 界面应该越简单好
用，不用去上什么ERP速成班，那种培训根本没意义，不太笨的人上班2周就培训得差不
多了。
如果你想申请Analyst 以上职位，或者想在ERP 方面有发展，ERP的基础是数据库，我
当年入行凭的是：
－ accounting degree & designation
－ MIS degree, database courses
如果你想懂多点，去上database 基础课程，和SQL。
如果你非要去上ERP课，去念SAP吧，SAP business process比较强，Oracle database
比较强，很多SAP的后台还是Oracle。还要准备大笔银子，我上过几个 SAP课程，3天2
千美金的价位，只cover非常小的一块内容，而且要照顾到课堂里一小半中年老会计，
进程极度缓慢，上得我直打瞌睡。
要记得财务行业的根本还是designation，业内最牛的SAP functional consultant，都
是有会计拍照的。
回复：你的会计背景？目标职位？
来源: fountaingrass 于 2011-06-17 19:10:09
谢谢吴音，你的建议非常实用，俺正在等分数的焦虑中，做好一颗红心两种准备，你说
得database 基础课程是什么？
----------------------
比如SQL, 数据之间的关系..
来源: sisbio 于 2011-06-18 13:58:08
什么Inner join, outer join 之类的..table relationship.
-----------------------
没明白你所谓学是指什么，Hyperion 和SAP是最常见的
来源: Crystaldowns 于 2011-06-18 07:39:57
常见的两种Financial System，大公司一般都会用，上手也不难，有用过的经验会是你
更Marketable。但是专门去学好像没有比要吧。
-------------------
看我答复你的有没有帮助
来源: sisbio 于 2011-06-18 14:11:24
Business analyst 一般是有会计背景(证书), 同时有工业经验(比如熟悉零售业,
retail, or manufactory 制造业流程的..).
ERP, 目前大型的就是你说的SAP, ORACLE,
微软的就是Dyanmics AX. 数据库是SQL. 就是吴音说的database.确其中SQL 2008, 有
目前最流行的SSRS, (report service).
进入ERP, 最大的问题, 是出差. functional consutlant, travel rate can be 80%-
100%. Developer, travel rate can be 50%-70%.
除非你进入client公司, 像我这次找到的工作, 就是用户公司. 你就不用出差, 慢慢的
干, 也没有人计算你的billable hour, 否则在咨询consulting firm 你是很辛苦的.
对女性有孩子要照顾的人不合适.
ERP 不难, 就是用多了就会了. 对我来说:) 你要不笨, 喜欢到处 click button, 到处
看看, post 一下你的帐目, 从销售到应收款到总GL, 你走一遍就知道了..
做ERP 最大的好处, 就是将来工作的机会挺大的, 几乎像点样子的公司都用它. 所以你
从data manager, 到warehouse manager, 有个CPA做controller, 好像都和ERP 有关.
我不做developer, 考考cpa, 估计我是最容易找工作的了, 因为我连系统背后的程序都
做了, 对数据流程太熟悉.
总之, 你的学历背景, 应该将来挺容易杂找工作. 发现一个机会进入一个公司工作, 只
要那个公司用了一套ERP, 你就上手了. 至于你以后学到多少, 看你自己花多少工夫了..

c*x2011-06-18 07:06

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挺过来了？

【在 m********0 的大作中提到】

: 哈哈，多谢转载

l*s2011-06-18 07:06

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发信人: usalaotu (美国老土), 信区: JobHunting
标题: 做Accounting 的如何转 ERP 工作(问答汇集)
关键字: 美国老土 ERP Accounting Database
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jun 18 21:46:14 2011, 美东)
ACCOUNTING ERP 的问题（痛苦中求问）
来源: fountaingrass 于 2011-06-17 14:21:27
我的帖子快被淹没了，只能再发一遍ACCOUNTING ERP，有童鞋去自费学ORACLE，SAP
的ERP吗，很多人据说都是工作中学的，但DILIMMA是没有ERP的经验怎么去找ERP的工作
呢？有ERP经验的童鞋们你们都是在哪里学的？给些HINT，还想问大家，学ORACLE 好
还是SAP好？有ORACLE，SAP 是不是就有ACCOUNTING职业发展的空间，我指的是JOB
SECURITY，JOB MARKET DEMAND，SALARY等。望各位给与指教，谢谢。
---------------
回复：ACCOUNTING ERP 的问题（痛苦中求问）
来源: 美国老土于 2011-06-17 14:48:50
-- Many ERP systems are being used in all sorts of business, for example, to
get the cheaper one: google Open Source ERP, you will get many. For the
large ERP system, you can find the top ten by click here: The top 10 ERP.
-- ERP means Enterprise Resource Planing, it contains many differnet
packages and modules. The most popular is Finance package, it contains basic
modules like AR, AP, GL, AM, no matter what kind of business the company do
, they will always need Finance modules.
-- Depends on the business, the other packages are Supply Chain Mamagement,
Manufacture, HR, CRM, BI etc.
-- Since the Financial package is the most popular one, as a Accounting
expert you have advantage than other people who do not know what AR, AP, GL
meant.
-- However, directly jump into EPR position is hard, because you do not have
basic database skill.
-- No matter what kind of ERP the company use, Oracle, SAP, or Microsoft, or
Open Source free ERP, there always be databases behind it, and always
require you to know SQL language to put database into database and pull data
out to generate the report, like daily report, weekly report, end of the
month, end of the quater, end of year report, or, like trial balance report
(which many people don't know what it means.)
-- Therefore, the first step toward ERP job is not about Oracle or SAP or
Microsoft, its about do you know business concept (which you already knew)
and database, do you know SQL?
-- Without Database foundamental skills, any ERP training will be rootless.
-- Get Database skill, find a Analyst job as the enter point, then find out
what ERP system is being used in that company, then get familiar with it,
then join the company paied training.
This is the best and shortest way to become a ERP professional.
Wish this answered your question.
Email me if you need more answers. I do teach ERP system modules. Therefore,
I know GL, AR, AP, set of books and 3C. (Do you know 3C?)
You are in the right direction...
------------------------------
你的会计背景？目标职位？
来源: 醉里吴音于 2011-06-17 18:55:43
如果你是AR AP General accountant的话，越大型的ERP，end user 界面应该越简单好
用，不用去上什么ERP速成班，那种培训根本没意义，不太笨的人上班2周就培训得差不
多了。
如果你想申请Analyst 以上职位，或者想在ERP 方面有发展，ERP的基础是数据库，我
当年入行凭的是：
－ accounting degree & designation
－ MIS degree, database courses
如果你想懂多点，去上database 基础课程，和SQL。
如果你非要去上ERP课，去念SAP吧，SAP business process比较强，Oracle database
比较强，很多SAP的后台还是Oracle。还要准备大笔银子，我上过几个 SAP课程，3天2
千美金的价位，只cover非常小的一块内容，而且要照顾到课堂里一小半中年老会计，
进程极度缓慢，上得我直打瞌睡。
要记得财务行业的根本还是designation，业内最牛的SAP functional consultant，都
是有会计拍照的。
回复：你的会计背景？目标职位？
来源: fountaingrass 于 2011-06-17 19:10:09
谢谢吴音，你的建议非常实用，俺正在等分数的焦虑中，做好一颗红心两种准备，你说
得database 基础课程是什么？
----------------------
比如SQL, 数据之间的关系..
来源: sisbio 于 2011-06-18 13:58:08
什么Inner join, outer join 之类的..table relationship.
-----------------------
没明白你所谓学是指什么，Hyperion 和SAP是最常见的
来源: Crystaldowns 于 2011-06-18 07:39:57
常见的两种Financial System，大公司一般都会用，上手也不难，有用过的经验会是你
更Marketable。但是专门去学好像没有比要吧。
-------------------
看我答复你的有没有帮助
来源: sisbio 于 2011-06-18 14:11:24
Business analyst 一般是有会计背景(证书), 同时有工业经验(比如熟悉零售业,
retail, or manufactory 制造业流程的..).
ERP, 目前大型的就是你说的SAP, ORACLE,
微软的就是Dyanmics AX. 数据库是SQL. 就是吴音说的database.确其中SQL 2008, 有
目前最流行的SSRS, (report service).
进入ERP, 最大的问题, 是出差. functional consutlant, travel rate can be 80%-
100%. Developer, travel rate can be 50%-70%.
除非你进入client公司, 像我这次找到的工作, 就是用户公司. 你就不用出差, 慢慢的
干, 也没有人计算你的billable hour, 否则在咨询consulting firm 你是很辛苦的.
对女性有孩子要照顾的人不合适.
ERP 不难, 就是用多了就会了. 对我来说:) 你要不笨, 喜欢到处 click button, 到处
看看, post 一下你的帐目, 从销售到应收款到总GL, 你走一遍就知道了..
做ERP 最大的好处, 就是将来工作的机会挺大的, 几乎像点样子的公司都用它. 所以你
从data manager, 到warehouse manager, 有个CPA做controller, 好像都和ERP 有关.
我不做developer, 考考cpa, 估计我是最容易找工作的了, 因为我连系统背后的程序都
做了, 对数据流程太熟悉.
总之, 你的学历背景, 应该将来挺容易杂找工作. 发现一个机会进入一个公司工作, 只
要那个公司用了一套ERP, 你就上手了. 至于你以后学到多少, 看你自己花多少工夫了..

w*o2011-06-18 07:06

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Is this a commercial for Kantie? Interesting that this post is not auto-
deleted...

m*02011-06-18 07:06

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没有，老板给我两个学期的research 两个fail。被搞死了。

【在 c****x 的大作中提到】

: 挺过来了？

m*02011-06-18 07:06

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Why it should be deleted? You know nothing about the context but say that
directly, it is so rude.

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】

: Is this a commercial for Kantie? Interesting that this post is not auto-
: deleted...

w*o2011-06-18 07:06

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For some ID who posted 478 posts on this website
and with the original post from military board
and with the post asking for money at a place that's really proud of its
history of trashing a user's widow who dare to ask for help
The only reason (I can think of) that this post containing an outside link
not being deleted is you are some sort of paid troll. And Being honest to a
troll tends to come across as being rude.

【在 m********0 的大作中提到】

: Why it should be deleted? You know nothing about the context but say that
: directly, it is so rude.

m*02011-06-18 07:06

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你非常讨人厌，你不知道吗？你把人拉出来晒，自己却躲在阴暗的角落里，中伤这个，
那个，跟厕所里的臭虫一样。没人让你跟贴和关注，不要自以为是了。

a

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】

: For some ID who posted 478 posts on this website
: and with the original post from military board
: and with the post asking for money at a place that's really proud of its
: history of trashing a user's widow who dare to ask for help
: The only reason (I can think of) that this post containing an outside link
: not being deleted is you are some sort of paid troll. And Being honest to a
: troll tends to come across as being rude.