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v*e
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我听黑毒就发现了,以为是转APE时造成的,后来有人说是故意加的.后来在一张王菲的原
版碟里也发现了.
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o*9
2
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(609)448-1127 孙姐
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z*n
3
今天下午就要去看医生了,发现我的卡上有这么两项,分别是10和35,那是我自己要付
45,还是35呢?
急问,在线等
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M*6
4
无娃,夫妻都工作,选择了 W-4 married jointly but withhold at higher single
rate
page1
line 5 is 0
关于line 6 有疑问
在参考page2 的Table1 跟Table2的时候
表中wage的范围是参考税后的还是税前的? 就是我们预估wage是被扣税后的gross
payment还是税前的?真是confused~~
想找instruction,好像关于W-4的instruction还特别少,跪请知情人士解答~
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C*U
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借人气问一个很stupid的问题:我的理解是SQL Server是做Relational Database的干
活,那么为什么它也包括了DMX Multidimensional cube 的功能呢?两者不冲突吗,还
是我的理解根本就错了?
请各位不吝赐教,谢谢!
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t*t
6
是到大Firm(四大,十大)还是小Firm学的东西多,快。
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e*3
7
A rejection letter from Boalt finally ended my very emotional four months
waiting period. I guess I will attend Santa Clara University this fall,
which has a very nice campus and friendly faculty. I want to find some
friends here who can share their experience with me or give me some advice,
about 1L, about law school, about career planning, about music, about soccer
, about life, about everything. I have already made my decision, so please
don’t say anything like “it’s worthless to go to a non-
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d*n
8
老的录音效果不好吧。

【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我听黑毒就发现了,以为是转APE时造成的,后来有人说是故意加的.后来在一张王菲的原
: 版碟里也发现了.

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m*i
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普通门诊10,急诊35
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f*u
10
发错地方了
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r*o
11
我觉得小firm
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z*1
12
So... welcome aboard!
If you love writing, logic reasoning, arguments and etc., you will certainly
enjoy your time in law school (which I did).

,
soccer

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: A rejection letter from Boalt finally ended my very emotional four months
: waiting period. I guess I will attend Santa Clara University this fall,
: which has a very nice campus and friendly faculty. I want to find some
: friends here who can share their experience with me or give me some advice,
: about 1L, about law school, about career planning, about music, about soccer
: , about life, about everything. I have already made my decision, so please
: don’t say anything like “it’s worthless to go to a non-

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p*z
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small firm obiously
big4 you make copies, test cas in your 1st year.
maybe some control work
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e*3
14
Thanks! Is legal writing very different from normal college essay writing ?

certainly

【在 z***1 的大作中提到】
: So... welcome aboard!
: If you love writing, logic reasoning, arguments and etc., you will certainly
: enjoy your time in law school (which I did).
:
: ,
: soccer

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L*a
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小firm
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z*1
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I do not know how much different that is from your college essay writing.
My 2 cents are: keep it simple, stick with the points you want to make, and
do not do jargons (remember always: rule-supporting facts-conclusion). you
will be just fine.

?

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: Thanks! Is legal writing very different from normal college essay writing ?
:
: certainly

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v*g
17

请问您的location?我知道,目前big 4 外包很多这类工作给印度的同事。
回楼主:当然是大firm了,小firm根本没有机会去做上市公司的帐,SEC对上市公司的
要求和一般private company大不相同,小公司既没有404 testing, 也没有
international coordination, 更没有reporting这项。

【在 p**z 的大作中提到】
: small firm obiously
: big4 you make copies, test cas in your 1st year.
: maybe some control work

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e*3
18
so use short simple sentences instead of long complicated ones? how come my
impression of the law articles are the opposite?

and

【在 z***1 的大作中提到】
: I do not know how much different that is from your college essay writing.
: My 2 cents are: keep it simple, stick with the points you want to make, and
: do not do jargons (remember always: rule-supporting facts-conclusion). you
: will be just fine.
:
: ?

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p*z
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come on . india怎么帮你make copy啊
control怎么外包啊.
Cash是可以。。但是简单到做1个来2小时的活 都外包 你跟client拿detail scan给
india的时间都在这里了。
不过我也只是夸张一点了 嘿嘿 1st year还是要做很多substantive的.
上市公司的team 随随便便 10来人
我有个哥们真的就是去做404.来来去去walk through 回来document到傻掉
international coordination最多不就是 联系一下墨西哥 让他们把report发过来? (
这个我是猜的)
真正的Reporting几乎是late 2nd year -senior 才能接触到吧
1st year进去最多就是tie out 一下 foot and cross foot一下 唉
我有个朋友在小firm 5-7个人 专门做大陆reverse merger过来美国的中国公司audit
几乎1年吧 就他一个人oversee engagement了 在big4来说应该是senior work了
当然work quality肯定没
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a*m
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Cong!
I was rejected by Santa Clara last year.
This school is pretty famous for its IP related course.
If you're gonna practice IP, you'll find it much easier to get job opportuni
ties there.

,
soccer

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: A rejection letter from Boalt finally ended my very emotional four months
: waiting period. I guess I will attend Santa Clara University this fall,
: which has a very nice campus and friendly faculty. I want to find some
: friends here who can share their experience with me or give me some advice,
: about 1L, about law school, about career planning, about music, about soccer
: , about life, about everything. I have already made my decision, so please
: don’t say anything like “it’s worthless to go to a non-

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m*y
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各有利弊吧-
小firm的好处就是上手快,可以很快就cover很多accounts;但是小firm的客户规模小--
虽然五脏俱全,但终究是只麻雀;而且做audit testing也不是很多,经常只是vouching.
Big4不好地方就是林子大分工细,刚进去常常要做routine or tedious work,such as
footing, making copies, confirmations, etc. 但是客户规模大,见多了猪跑将来
inteview的时候也能说几句;而且audit testing方式比较多也比较好,能学些东西. 重
要的是放在resume上的经历好看.
当然,个人能力更重要,小的里面有出类拔萃的人,大的里面也有啥都学不到最后只能抱
怨的人.
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e*3
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Yes, I plan to to do IP. So did you re-apply this year or go to some other
school?
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l*6
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各有利弊
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a*m
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That's great. I'm in University of Houston now. Although the IP rank here is
also high, but the opportunities are much less than NY, CA, DC and Chicago.

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: Yes, I plan to to do IP. So did you re-apply this year or go to some other
: school?

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d*2
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这种问题永远都是炕。
我在小firm,做tax,做了一年多了,现在90%的work都是独立完成,也不怎么问经理问
题了。我corporation, partnership, personal的return都做过,学得倒是很广泛。
小firm的缺点:客户较小,我们公司最大的客户也就是个私人的医院,根本就没有SEC
client,所以很多东西都简单化了。所有客户都是用M-1,我从来没用过M-3。另外一点
,小firm根本就不注重training,很多东西都是靠自己摸索出来的。(不过这点的好处
是可以培养独立学习的能力)
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e*3
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so how many hours do you usually study every day during the first year?
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t*t
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没有training,可以自己交钱去参加一些training,尤其是tax的training。
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a*m
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it depends
now it's towards the end of semester, so probably at least 6-7 hours in addi
tion to class

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: so how many hours do you usually study every day during the first year?
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i*s
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你们FIRM要FILE TIME SHEET吗?
我现在也在小FIRM里做, 但是每天都要FILE TIME SHEET, 因为都要自学, 所以花的时
间要多一些, 老板看了不爽...

SEC

【在 d*********2 的大作中提到】
: 这种问题永远都是炕。
: 我在小firm,做tax,做了一年多了,现在90%的work都是独立完成,也不怎么问经理问
: 题了。我corporation, partnership, personal的return都做过,学得倒是很广泛。
: 小firm的缺点:客户较小,我们公司最大的客户也就是个私人的医院,根本就没有SEC
: client,所以很多东西都简单化了。所有客户都是用M-1,我从来没用过M-3。另外一点
: ,小firm根本就不注重training,很多东西都是靠自己摸索出来的。(不过这点的好处
: 是可以培养独立学习的能力)

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W*l
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addi
OMG
sigh.. i'm too lazy

【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: it depends
: now it's towards the end of semester, so probably at least 6-7 hours in addi
: tion to class

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d*2
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要,不过是一周交一次。
我刚开始工作的时候,如果一个project用的时间特别长,我就会在timesheet中写一大
串说明哪里花的时间多,老板曾经还被我的说明逗乐过,也就不怎么为难我了,不知道
这个方法对你会不会有帮助。

【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 你们FIRM要FILE TIME SHEET吗?
: 我现在也在小FIRM里做, 但是每天都要FILE TIME SHEET, 因为都要自学, 所以花的时
: 间要多一些, 老板看了不爽...
:
: SEC

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e*3
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I guess it will be a challenge for me to study as hard as you. I'll try.
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h*y
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我开始工作的时候,很多training time的时间都没有算老板的,省得怕他看到不爽后
给我黑脸

【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 你们FIRM要FILE TIME SHEET吗?
: 我现在也在小FIRM里做, 但是每天都要FILE TIME SHEET, 因为都要自学, 所以花的时
: 间要多一些, 老板看了不爽...
:
: SEC

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o*s
34
Santa Clara is a great place. I know there are quite a few Chinese students
there. Good luck with studies.
As to reading before law school, my feeling is that if you are really
motivated, read some serious history. If you are not that motivated, I
recommend the Harry Potter series.

,
soccer

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: A rejection letter from Boalt finally ended my very emotional four months
: waiting period. I guess I will attend Santa Clara University this fall,
: which has a very nice campus and friendly faculty. I want to find some
: friends here who can share their experience with me or give me some advice,
: about 1L, about law school, about career planning, about music, about soccer
: , about life, about everything. I have already made my decision, so please
: don’t say anything like “it’s worthless to go to a non-

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i*s
35
那你怎么FILE TIME SHEET, 每天8小时都FILE成公司的OFFICE MISC HOURS?
你还有TRAINING, 我这里痛苦死了, 扔个东西给你做, 没有说明, 也不知道从何做起.
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a*m
36
I would recommend Planet Law School II.
But I gave up the preparation strategy recommended in that book coz it's too
demanding on my time and self-discipline.

students

【在 o*********s 的大作中提到】
: Santa Clara is a great place. I know there are quite a few Chinese students
: there. Good luck with studies.
: As to reading before law school, my feeling is that if you are really
: motivated, read some serious history. If you are not that motivated, I
: recommend the Harry Potter series.
:
: ,
: soccer

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h*y
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哪能charge老板啊,都是charge客户的,你是新人,rate会很低,例如老人80一小时,你才
20一小时,所以即使你花的时间多,但是bill的钱数却不会增加多少.
我从工作的第一天下午开始就做bank rec了,小firm根本没有training,就是自己看以前
怎么做的,照葫芦画瓢呗,实在不懂就问同事.

.

【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: 那你怎么FILE TIME SHEET, 每天8小时都FILE成公司的OFFICE MISC HOURS?
: 你还有TRAINING, 我这里痛苦死了, 扔个东西给你做, 没有说明, 也不知道从何做起.

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a*m
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you are way below the bar...
i think i can improve to 10 hours a day if i come to here less and not distr
acted by kaixin001 or something like that...

【在 W*********l 的大作中提到】
:
: addi
: OMG
: sigh.. i'm too lazy

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s*g
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This is my third year in a local CPA firm. I manage my time sheet. Average 5
hours for chargeable a day. During the tax season, it will become 8 or 9
chargeable hours a day.Our company's policy is min 1,500 chargeable hours
per year per employee. I would like to work for a big firm after I learn all
the things in a small firm.
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o*s
40
In my 1L year, I basically studied all the time, except when I was driving,
eating, sleeping, and taking care of my son. Now I hang around bbs all the
time.

distr

【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: you are way below the bar...
: i think i can improve to 10 hours a day if i come to here less and not distr
: acted by kaixin001 or something like that...

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i*s
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How you put description for 3 hours that not chargeable?
Thanks
I don't really like my firm's enviornment. not sure if all small firms are
same....

5
all

【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: This is my third year in a local CPA firm. I manage my time sheet. Average 5
: hours for chargeable a day. During the tax season, it will become 8 or 9
: chargeable hours a day.Our company's policy is min 1,500 chargeable hours
: per year per employee. I would like to work for a big firm after I learn all
: the things in a small firm.

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a*m
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u r my idealized model which i will never live up to...

,

【在 o*********s 的大作中提到】
: In my 1L year, I basically studied all the time, except when I was driving,
: eating, sleeping, and taking care of my son. Now I hang around bbs all the
: time.
:
: distr

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t*4
43
小FIRM也有机会做上市公司。特别是有些要省公费的。
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W*l
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distr
but classes take, say, 8 hrs?
i might be able to do that when i was a highschool kid and family took care
of me.
now we are all grown ups, and have to take care of ourselves, which is very
distracting and time consuming.

【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: you are way below the bar...
: i think i can improve to 10 hours a day if i come to here less and not distr
: acted by kaixin001 or something like that...

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p*i
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看是什么类型的客户了吧,大firm也很多人一直都没做registered client啊。
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a*m
46
why do you take classes so many hours a day?
i have 4 hours per day on average
the reading and revision consumes much more time

care
very

【在 W*********l 的大作中提到】
:
: distr
: but classes take, say, 8 hrs?
: i might be able to do that when i was a highschool kid and family took care
: of me.
: now we are all grown ups, and have to take care of ourselves, which is very
: distracting and time consuming.

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q*t
47
I switched to a small firm a few months ago and was very impressed that the
2nd year staff were running audit engagements from planning all the way to
reporting. Unthinkable in my old firm.
Time charging can be tricky, but in my opinion, be honest and charge the
actual. Don't eat the hours - it's misleading! If it takes 10 hours to get
one task done, then take the time and charge it. Get it right first. No one
expects a new staff to achieve both quality and efficiency.
If the extra time is cause
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W*l
48

well i guess we have different definitions.
i think of it like billable hrs - i sit for 8 hrs, but i could only bill 6
hrs of real studying.

【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: why do you take classes so many hours a day?
: i have 4 hours per day on average
: the reading and revision consumes much more time
:
: care
: very

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a*o
49
一个朋友也刚去santa clara,已经是某大所的ts了
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a*m
50
well, that makes sense
i can only make half of my time efficient use

【在 W*********l 的大作中提到】
:
: well i guess we have different definitions.
: i think of it like billable hrs - i sit for 8 hrs, but i could only bill 6
: hrs of real studying.

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e*3
51
Harry Potter, isn't that for teenagers? I'd rather go for some history book
then.

students

【在 o*********s 的大作中提到】
: Santa Clara is a great place. I know there are quite a few Chinese students
: there. Good luck with studies.
: As to reading before law school, my feeling is that if you are really
: motivated, read some serious history. If you are not that motivated, I
: recommend the Harry Potter series.
:
: ,
: soccer

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A*t
52
if you're really interested in doing some law school reading, i recommend "
law 101" & "getting to maybe."

book

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: Harry Potter, isn't that for teenagers? I'd rather go for some history book
: then.
:
: students

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o*s
53
I was just kidding. I mean it's better to read something entertaining and
relaxing. Any way, welcome to the club.

book

【在 e*******3 的大作中提到】
: Harry Potter, isn't that for teenagers? I'd rather go for some history book
: then.
:
: students

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e*3
54
interesting, so the other hours were on facebook or kaixin001

【在 W*********l 的大作中提到】
:
: well i guess we have different definitions.
: i think of it like billable hrs - i sit for 8 hrs, but i could only bill 6
: hrs of real studying.

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W*l
55

so true
efficiency is my biggest problem.
i typically spend 1 hr on studying and the next 2 hrs on 'resting'...

【在 a**********m 的大作中提到】
: well, that makes sense
: i can only make half of my time efficient use

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