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m*s2012-03-23 07:03

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her 75% of the time.

O*C2012-03-23 07:03

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我最近几周胃部不适，（尤其是餐后腹胀，然后胃部隐隐作痛，特别是左右2根最靠下
面的肋骨，他们的中点时不时有明显疼痛；胆囊部位偶尔有持续几秒钟的针刺般疼痛；
喝温开水胃部感觉舒服。）家庭医生开了抗生素吃了2周无明显好转。
在胃肠专科医生那里做了胃镜，也没有发现异常。
因为我的超声波报告显示胆囊较小，而且有结石，（但是无阻塞）
现在家庭医生和胃肠专科医生一致推荐我去看外科医生，想办法把结石处理掉。
请问美国看胆囊结石的专科医生是内科还是外科？
我并不想做胆囊切除手术。
希望是以保守疗法为主。我近来大量饮水并注意保暖，胆囊疼痛的频率和持续时间都明
显减少。但是胃部不适还在，稀饭是唯一不引起餐后胃胀的食物。我现在的进食量只有
平常的三分之一。4个星期体重减了7公斤。但医生坚持要我1天2次服用止胃酸的药，说
不怕一万，就怕万一。
不爽死了。
有高人能指点一二么？
万分感谢！

x*32012-03-23 07:03

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绿卡给配偶申请绿卡，请大家帮忙看看有没有漏掉什么？看到官网上提到一个无犯罪
记录的证明，没有见过谁提交这个啊？我自己之前办485的时候没有交这个，这个不是
新的要求吧？谢谢！
USCIS
Attn: FBAS
131 South Dearborn - 3rd Floor
Chicago, IL 60603-5517
October 1, 2017
Re: Form I-485, Application to Adjust Status
Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization
Form I-131, Application for a Travel Document
Applicant: XXX
Dear Immigration Officer:
I am filing Application for Adjust Status, Employment Authorization, and a
Travel Document based on my approval Form I-130.
My current status is H1B.
Enclosed please find the above mentioned forms and supporting documents:
Part 1. Form I-485, Adjustment of Status Application
1. Form G-1145, e-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.
2. Form I-485, Application for Status Adjustment
3. A check of $1225 for filing fee ($1140 for I-485 plus $85 biometric
fee)
4. Two 2in x 2in photos (with Name on back)
5. Copy of I-797 Form of I-130 Approval Notice
6. Form I-693, Medical Examination (sealed)
7. Form G-325A, Biographic Information
8. Copy of notarized birth certificate with English Translation
9. Copy of Marriage Certificate
10. Copy of my Form I-94 issued at the last entry to US
11. Copy of my passport biographical page and visa stamps
12. Copy of my I-797 Approval Notice for H1B (two copies from two
companies during different period)
13. Copy of my previous OPT EAD cards and I-797 Approval Notice for OPT
14. Copy of all my I-20 forms
15. Copy of my Social Security Card
16. Copy of my Driver License
17. My Employment Verification Letter
18. Copy of my W-2 of latest 4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
19. My paycheck stubs for last three months (07,08,09/2017)
20. My CV
21. My spouse’s green card (front and back)
22. Copy of my spouse’s notarized birth certificate with English
Translation
23. Copy of my spouse’s passport biographical page and visa stamps
24. Copy of my spouse’s Social Security Card
25. Copy of my spouse’s Driver License
26. My spouse’s Employment Verification Letter
27. Copy of my spouse’s W-2 of latest 2 years (2015, 2016)
28. My spouse’s paycheck stubs for last three months (07,08,09/2017)
29. Copy of subscriber & spouse health insurance plan
30. Copy of Joint Bank Account Statement.

Part 2. Form I-765, Employment Authorization Application (EAD)
1. Form G-1145, e-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.
2. Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization
3. Two 2in x 2in photos (with Name on back)
4. Copy of I-797 Form of I-130 Approval Notice
5. Copy of Form I-94 issued at the last entry to US
6. Copy of notarized birth certificate with English Translation
7. Copy of marriage certificate
8. Copy of passport biographical page and visa stamps
9. Copy of I-797 Approval Notice for H1B
10. Copy of my previous OPT EAD cards
11. Copy of all my I-20 forms
16. Copy of my Social Security Card
17. Copy of my Driver License
18. My Employment Verification Letter

Part 3. Form I-131, Application for a Travel Document
1. Form G-1145, e-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.
2. Form I-131, Application for Travel Document
3. Two 2in x 2in photos (with Name on back)
4. Copy of I-797 Form of I-130 Approval Notice
5. Copy of Form I-94 issued at the last entry to US
6. Copy of notarized birth certificate with English Translation
7. Copy of marriage certificate
8. Copy of passport biographical page and visa stamps
9. Copy of I-797 Approval Notice for H1B
10. Copy of my previous OPT EAD cards
11. Copy of all my I-20 forms
12. Copy of my Social Security Card
13. Copy of my Driver License
14. My Employment Verification Letter
15. A letter explaining why I need to travel outside of U.S.

Please note that no extra fee is required for I-131 and I-765, because I am
filing the I-131 and I-765 concurrently with my I-485.
If you have any questions or need additional information, please feel free
to contact me at any time. I highly appreciate your courtesy and
consideration in this matter.
Sincerely,

b*y2012-03-23 07:03

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什么pan am
ringer
the playboy club
revenge
一翻追踪
====

r*e2012-03-23 07:03

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kx2012-03-23 07:03

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iMacadamia (aka macadamia) 共上站 18 次，发表过 2147483647 篇文章
上次在 [Wed Jun 17 17:19:17 2009] 从 [71.185.] 到本站一游。
离线时间[Wed Jun 17 18:28:04 2009] 信箱：[信] 身份: [用户]
伪币: [9.70](可用：9.60)
经验值：[0](新手上路) 表现值：[1193046485](神～～) 生命力：[730]。
没有个人说明档

a*p2012-03-23 07:03

7 楼

请教：
为什么会有ambiguous access of getDescription错误？两个类中方法的signature不一
样啊
#include
using namespace std;
class Book
{
public:
string getDescription(int i) { return "Book"; }
};
class Romance
{
public:
string getDescription() {
return "Romance " ;
}
};
class my : public Book, public Romance
{
};
int main()
{
my book; int i=0;
cout << book.getDescription(i);
}

h*n2012-03-23 07:03

8 楼

在考虑是毕业回去还是在这边继续找工作

m*02012-03-23 07:03

9 楼

新手请教，上司不给力，这里牛人多，发来问问。
一组method claims，其中independent claim里的两个步骤a,b有替代方案c,d，要怎么
把这两个替代步骤c，d写着dependent claims里呢？
如果用further comprising，逻辑上有点不对吧？

j*I2012-03-23 07:03

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为啥胃病是左右两根肋骨下面都疼? 应该是左边吧? 难道是胆囊右边疼?
胃酸过多时候，找我的经验，吃生花生米，嚼碎了，比制酸剂更管用。

【在 O***C 的大作中提到】

: 我最近几周胃部不适，（尤其是餐后腹胀，然后胃部隐隐作痛，特别是左右2根最靠下
: 面的肋骨，他们的中点时不时有明显疼痛；胆囊部位偶尔有持续几秒钟的针刺般疼痛；
: 喝温开水胃部感觉舒服。）家庭医生开了抗生素吃了2周无明显好转。
: 在胃肠专科医生那里做了胃镜，也没有发现异常。
: 因为我的超声波报告显示胆囊较小，而且有结石，（但是无阻塞）
: 现在家庭医生和胃肠专科医生一致推荐我去看外科医生，想办法把结石处理掉。
: 请问美国看胆囊结石的专科医生是内科还是外科？
: 我并不想做胆囊切除手术。
: 希望是以保守疗法为主。我近来大量饮水并注意保暖，胆囊疼痛的频率和持续时间都明
: 显减少。但是胃部不适还在，稀饭是唯一不引起餐后胃胀的食物。我现在的进食量只有

r*a2012-03-23 07:03

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G-325A is no longer required based on new 485 instruction

l*u2012-03-23 07:03

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剧集很多，确实看花眼了
Pan am 和PlayboyClub没看， Ringer确实烂，Revenge其实so so，Person of
Interest有潜力，Prime Suspect很棒
昨晚看Terra Nova，前半个小时好慢啊，还没看完，据说不错，晚上准备把剩下的看完

【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】

: 什么pan am
: ringer
: the playboy club
: revenge
: 一翻追踪
: ====

d*s2012-03-23 07:03

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感动

j*z2012-03-23 07:03

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伪币系统出了问题？

t*t2012-03-23 07:03

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name lookup和overload resolution是分开的两步. 如果name lookup找到的不全是同
一个子类来的member, 那就是ambigious.

不一

【在 a******p 的大作中提到】

: 请教：
: 为什么会有ambiguous access of getDescription错误？两个类中方法的signature不一
: 样啊
: #include
: using namespace std;
: class Book
: {
: public:
: string getDescription(int i) { return "Book"; }
: };

f*n2012-03-23 07:03

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不能变成平行的independent claim吗？

t*n2012-03-23 07:03

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建议至少去外科咨询一下，就个人情况有哪些选择
保守疗法就怕控制不住复发

【在 O***C 的大作中提到】

A*n2012-03-23 07:03

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我正好也想问这些，多谢你的文件列表啊！
赞！

【在 x*****3 的大作中提到】

: 绿卡给配偶申请绿卡，请大家帮忙看看有没有漏掉什么？看到官网上提到一个无犯罪
: 记录的证明，没有见过谁提交这个啊？我自己之前办485的时候没有交这个，这个不是
: 新的要求吧？谢谢！
: USCIS
: Attn: FBAS
: 131 South Dearborn - 3rd Floor
: Chicago, IL 60603-5517
: October 1, 2017
: Re: Form I-485, Application to Adjust Status
: Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization

a*n2012-03-23 07:03

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Pan Am和Terra Nova还不错

【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】

: 什么pan am
: ringer
: the playboy club
: revenge
: 一翻追踪
: ====

r*e2012-03-23 07:03

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kx2012-03-23 07:03

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应该不是
在我给他发了10个伪币之前，
他是负数
明显是被杀过档之类的

【在 j********z 的大作中提到】

: 伪币系统出了问题？

N*m2012-03-23 07:03

22 楼

re.类似的，把book中getDescription改成private，并且去掉int i；
romance不变，还是会得到ambiguous.

【在 t****t 的大作中提到】

: name lookup和overload resolution是分开的两步. 如果name lookup找到的不全是同
: 一个子类来的member, 那就是ambigious.
:
: 不一

f*n2012-03-23 07:03

23 楼

或者加在原来的independent claim里（用a, b或者c, d的形式）

O*C2012-03-23 07:03

24 楼

网上说最下面的肋骨疼痛有可能是肝出了问题。
我最近吃了很多药，几乎都要靠肝肾排泄，可能肝脏有些吃不消了。
我的胆囊本来是不疼的，吃了强力抗生素（阿莫西林+克拉霉素）+制酸药（奥美拉唑）
后整个腹部都感受到强烈刺激。胆囊才出现间歇性的几秒钟左右的刺痛。（餐后尤其常
见）
家庭医生因为我的血检结果有Hp IgG阳性抗体，所以给我开了强力抗生素。
但是1个礼拜后胃镜的胃粘膜测试结果出来了，没有发现幽门螺杆菌。
等于白吃了一段时间的抗生素，弄得现在腹部不适还加上胆囊疼痛。
抗生素停药有2个礼拜了，胆囊疼痛有了好转。（频率更低的间歇性的几秒钟左右的隐
痛取代了刺痛）
胃部不舒服也有一些缓和。
关键是胃口还是很差，只有平时三分之一的食量，一个月体重减了7公斤。
除了喝稀饭之外，吃大多数东西，尤其是比较硬的东西，就会有长达4-5小时的腹胀。
最近试着吃了一点江中健胃消食片，想帮助消化，增进食欲；但是反而加重了胃酸返流
，又出现烧心的感觉了。（吃抗生素时也一样）只好停服。
咨询了外科医生，他们的建议是胆囊有结石并伴有疼痛，一律手术切除。（药物溶石，
超声波碎石都无效。）
我不到万不得已不会这样做。因为

【在 j*****I 的大作中提到】

: 为啥胃病是左右两根肋骨下面都疼? 应该是左边吧? 难道是胆囊右边疼?
: 胃酸过多时候，找我的经验，吃生花生米，嚼碎了，比制酸剂更管用。

x*32012-03-23 07:03

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我又更改了一下：护照打印了所有的页面，I-94提供过去5年的，还有I-864 和去年的
退税。
USCIS
PO Box 805887
Chicago, IL 60680-4120
October 1, 2017
Re: Form I-485, Application to Adjust Status
Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization
Form I-131, Application for a Travel Document
Applicant: XXX
Dear Immigration Officer:
I am filing Application for Adjust Status, Employment Authorization, and a
Travel Document based on my approval Form I-130.
My current status is H1B.
Enclosed please find the above mentioned forms and supporting documents:
Part 1. Form I-485, Adjustment of Status Application
1. Form G-1145, e-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.
2. Form I-485, Application for Status Adjustment
3. A check of $1225 for filing fee ($1140 for I-485 plus $85 biometric
fee)
4. Two 2in x 2in photos (with name on back)
5. Copy of I-797 Form of I-130 Approval Notice
6. Form I-693, Medical Examination (sealed)
7. Form G-325A, Biographic Information
8. Copy of notarized birth certificate with English Translation
9. Copy of Marriage Certificate
10. Copy of my Form I-94 issued records in the past five years
11. Copy of all my passport pages, including biographical page and visa
stamps
12. Copy of my I-797 Approval Notice for H1B (two copies from two
companies during different period)
13. Copy of my previous OPT EAD cards
14. Copy of all my I-20 forms
15. Copy of my Social Security Card
16. Copy of my Driver License
17. My Employment Verification Letter
18. Copy of my W-2 of latest 4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)
19. My paycheck stubs for last three months (07,08,09/2017)
20. My CV
21. My spouse’s green card (front and back)
22. Copy of my spouse’s notarized birth certificate with English
Translation
23. Copy of my spouse’s passport biographical page and visa stamps
24. Copy of my spouse’s Social Security Card
25. Copy of my spouse’s Driver License
26. My spouse’s Employment Verification Letter
27. Copy of my spouse’s W-2 of latest 2 years (2015, 2016)
28. My spouse’s paycheck stubs for last three months (07,08,09/2017)
29. Copy of subscriber & spouse health insurance plan
30. Copy of Joint Bank Account Statement.
31 . Form I-864 filled by spouse sponsor and the copy of 2016 tax return.

Part 2. Form I-765, Employment Authorization Application (EAD)
1. Form G-1145, e-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.
2. Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization
3. Two 2in x 2in photos (with Name on back)
4. Copy of I-797 Form of I-130 Approval Notice
5. Copy of my Form I-94 issued records in the past five years
6. Copy of notarized birth certificate with English Translation
7. Copy of marriage certificate
8. Copy of passport biographical page and visa stamps
9. Copy of I-797 Approval Notice for H1B (two copies from two companies
during different period)
10. Copy of my previous OPT EAD cards
11. Copy of all my I-20 forms
12. Copy of my Social Security Card
13. Copy of my Driver License
14. My Employment Verification Letter

Part 3. Form I-131, Application for a Travel Document
1. Form G-1145, e-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance.
2. Form I-131, Application for Travel Document
3. Two 2in x 2in photos (with Name on back)
4. Copy of I-797 Form of I-130 Approval Notice
5. Copy of my Form I-94 issued records in the past five years
6. Copy of notarized birth certificate with English Translation
7. Copy of marriage certificate
8. Copy of passport biographical page and visa stamps
9. Copy of I-797 Approval Notice for H1B (two copies from two companies
during different period)
10. Copy of my previous OPT EAD cards
11. Copy of all my I-20 forms
12. Copy of my Social Security Card
13. Copy of my Driver License
14. My Employment Verification Letter
15. A letter explaining why I need to travel outside of U.S.

Please note that no extra fee is required for I-131 and I-765, because I am
filing the I-131 and I-765 concurrently with my I-485.
If you have any questions or need additional information, please feel free
to contact me at any time. I highly appreciate your courtesy and
consideration in this matter.
Sincerely,

b*y2012-03-23 07:03

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Terra Nova 真的很慢
刚开始的几分钟挺紧张
后来我就快进了
Prime suspect 还没看

【在 l******u 的大作中提到】

: 剧集很多，确实看花眼了
: Pan am 和PlayboyClub没看， Ringer确实烂，Revenge其实so so，Person of
: Interest有潜力，Prime Suspect很棒
: 昨晚看Terra Nova，前半个小时好慢啊，还没看完，据说不错，晚上准备把剩下的看完

d*s2012-03-23 07:03

27 楼

感动

s*g2012-03-23 07:03

28 楼

点病毒是不是可以赚伪币阿?

z*e2012-03-23 07:03

29 楼

和private 无关。
编译器先找匹配类型，然后再看accesibility.
找不到匹配，自然报错。

【在 N***m 的大作中提到】

: re.类似的，把book中getDescription改成private，并且去掉int i；
: romance不变，还是会得到ambiguous.

m*02012-03-23 07:03

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这个方案有想过，但总觉得不太完美似的

【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】

: 不能变成平行的independent claim吗？

x*32012-03-23 07:03

31 楼

G-325A 确实没看到需要，不过不打算改了，谢谢！

s*t2012-03-23 07:03

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我断定terra nova拍不过一季
斯皮伯格现在快成票房毒药了

【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】

: Terra Nova 真的很慢
: 刚开始的几分钟挺紧张
: 后来我就快进了
: Prime suspect 还没看

t*s2012-03-23 07:03

33 楼

感动

【在 r*********e 的大作中提到】

A*s2012-03-23 07:03

34 楼

怎么找到的？

【在 kx 的大作中提到】

: iMacadamia (aka macadamia) 共上站 18 次，发表过 2147483647 篇文章
: 上次在 [Wed Jun 17 17:19:17 2009] 从 [71.185.] 到本站一游。
: 离线时间[Wed Jun 17 18:28:04 2009] 信箱：[信] 身份: [用户]
: 伪币: [9.70](可用：9.60)
: 经验值：[0](新手上路) 表现值：[1193046485](神～～) 生命力：[730]。
: 没有个人说明档

a*p2012-03-23 07:03

35 楼

谢谢解答
另外，为什么如果我不调用这个函数，vc就不抱错呢？
难道是编译器相关？不调用，就不做name lookup?

m*02012-03-23 07:03

36 楼

这个是怎样的？在independent claim里用 or？可以吗？我写claim的经验太少，没
遇过呀

【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】

: 或者加在原来的independent claim里（用a, b或者c, d的形式）

t*r2012-03-23 07:03

37 楼

Nice

k*r2012-03-23 07:03

38 楼

能不能坚持一季都难说，花了那么多钱拍摄加广告，结果primier才8M viewer， fox
这个秋天很难熬啊， X factor也不尽人意，新戏就一个the new girl达到了预取。

【在 s****t 的大作中提到】

: 我断定terra nova拍不过一季
: 斯皮伯格现在快成票房毒药了

j*z2012-03-23 07:03

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http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/sysop/31206721.html

【在 s******g 的大作中提到】

: 点病毒是不是可以赚伪币阿?

z*e2012-03-23 07:03

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因为其他的部分还能凑合着用用，就先用着吧。

【在 a******p 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢解答
: 另外，为什么如果我不调用这个函数，vc就不抱错呢？
: 难道是编译器相关？不调用，就不做name lookup?

f*n2012-03-23 07:03

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可以啊，如果一个步骤可以有两种方法来完成，你可以都列出来用or吧，或者放到一个
group里用 "this prosecure" selected from the group consisting of A and B.
多个independent claims 也没问题啊，差不了多少钱。

b*y2012-03-23 07:03

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NBC是一直处在低谷
永不翻身了

fox

【在 k***r 的大作中提到】

: 能不能坚持一季都难说，花了那么多钱拍摄加广告，结果primier才8M viewer， fox
: 这个秋天很难熬啊， X factor也不尽人意，新戏就一个the new girl达到了预取。

e*n2012-03-23 07:03

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很后悔没有借机会把几个马甲的发文数提一提

【在 j********z 的大作中提到】

:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/sysop/31206721.html

i*p2012-03-23 07:03

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if for example a is exchangable with c, and b is exchangable with d, can
they all be in the dependent claims?
claim 1: independent claim
claim 2: the method of claim 1, wherein said .....a, b
claim 2: the method of claim 1, wherein said.......c, d
i am new to this too, criticisms are welcome!

【在 m*******0 的大作中提到】

: 新手请教，上司不给力，这里牛人多，发来问问。
: 一组method claims，其中independent claim里的两个步骤a,b有替代方案c,d，要怎么
: 把这两个替代步骤c，d写着dependent claims里呢？
: 如果用further comprising，逻辑上有点不对吧？

s*t2012-03-23 07:03

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8m吗，比我想象的还差啊。。
主要是做太大了，现在看电影票房科幻片和动作大片已经到了票房开低开始入不敷出的
迹象了。这个跟目前经济不好老百姓没有太好心情有关，还有就是到了审美疲劳阶段，
这两年的电影票房也会下滑，除非有特别牛的看点。
应该多开一点比较fresh的但又较稳重的新剧，僵尸题材就能火

fox

【在 k***r 的大作中提到】

f*n2012-03-23 07:03

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OK and actually it is a better format, if claim 1 is novel and inventive, i.e., no prior art
teaching e or f which is exchangable with a or b.

【在 i*******p 的大作中提到】

: if for example a is exchangable with c, and b is exchangable with d, can
: they all be in the dependent claims?
: claim 1: independent claim
: claim 2: the method of claim 1, wherein said .....a, b
: claim 2: the method of claim 1, wherein said.......c, d
: i am new to this too, criticisms are welcome!

G*72012-03-23 07:03

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prime suspect is ok.

【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】

: 什么pan am
: ringer
: the playboy club
: revenge
: 一翻追踪
: ====

m*02012-03-23 07:03

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For my case, steps a,b or c,d are actually the novel parts. Without them,
claim 1 would be just common steps, like receiving..., retrieving...,etc.
In such a context, I wonder if it is still a good solution to include
neither of the steps a,b or c,d in claim 1.

i.e., no prior art

【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】

: OK and actually it is a better format, if claim 1 is novel and inventive, i.e., no prior art
: teaching e or f which is exchangable with a or b.

k*y2012-03-23 07:03

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terre nova不知道看点在哪里，情节好拖沓阿，而且恐龙怪鸟都做得那么粗糙，打斗也
没细节，死人就马马虎虎地在脸上划几道血印子。感觉是给小朋友看的科幻片。

f*n2012-03-23 07:03

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I assume not.

t*g2012-03-23 07:03

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想起了恐龙特急克塞号，哈哈
第二集是比较拖，第三集预告似乎情节有突变
观众取向应该是年纪轻的，中间的广告有Xbox360

【在 k*******y 的大作中提到】

: terre nova不知道看点在哪里，情节好拖沓阿，而且恐龙怪鸟都做得那么粗糙，打斗也
: 没细节，死人就马马虎虎地在脸上划几道血印子。感觉是给小朋友看的科幻片。

i*p2012-03-23 07:03

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ab/cd must have something in common? (therefore they are inter-changable?),
how about list those common-parts in the independent claim? or are the
common-parts all non-inventive?

【在 m*******0 的大作中提到】

: For my case, steps a,b or c,d are actually the novel parts. Without them,
: claim 1 would be just common steps, like receiving..., retrieving...,etc.
: In such a context, I wonder if it is still a good solution to include
: neither of the steps a,b or c,d in claim 1.
:
: i.e., no prior art

B*G2012-03-23 07:03

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阴谋搞得不够大，sixer时有时无，这帮人也回不去现代，其实大家喜欢看高科技的现
代/未来，只拍恐龙实在没意思。另外，男女主角一点chemistry都没有啊。

【在 k*******y 的大作中提到】

o*s2012-03-23 07:03

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Using "or" sometimes can be risky. You may get a 112 for that if the
examiner is not reasonable. I got two such rejections recently.

B*G2012-03-23 07:03

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斯皮尔伯格估计也就是挂个名前期关注一下吧

【在 s****t 的大作中提到】

: 我断定terra nova拍不过一季
: 斯皮伯格现在快成票房毒药了

f*n2012-03-23 07:03

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how did you solve that?　seperate them into different independent claims?

m*02012-03-23 07:03

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That would require using a general name for non-common parts in the
independent claim.

,

【在 i*******p 的大作中提到】

: ab/cd must have something in common? (therefore they are inter-changable?),
: how about list those common-parts in the independent claim? or are the
: common-parts all non-inventive?

i*p2012-03-23 07:03

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this is getting too convoluted without some details, which you coudln't
disclose (rightfully so), hehe.

【在 m*******0 的大作中提到】

: That would require using a general name for non-common parts in the
: independent claim.
:
: ,

B*12012-03-23 07:03

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A product claim is always better than a method claim in terms of eventual
patent protection/litigation, especially if the product is made overseas.

B*12012-03-23 07:03

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A product claim is always better than a method claim in terms of eventual
patent protection/litigation, especially if the product is made overseas.

d*e2012-03-23 07:03

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That's very true.
However, sometimes you cannot draft apparatus claims for some inventions,
especially after Digital-Vending Services International, LLC v. The
University of Phoenix, Inc.

【在 B******1 的大作中提到】

: A product claim is always better than a method claim in terms of eventual
: patent protection/litigation, especially if the product is made overseas.

d*e2012-03-23 07:03

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I would fight to death if an examiner does that.
Did you guys notice that PTO recently had many junior examiners? They drive
me crazy.

【在 o*********s 的大作中提到】

: Using "or" sometimes can be risky. You may get a 112 for that if the
: examiner is not reasonable. I got two such rejections recently.

d*e2012-03-23 07:03

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If a, b, c and d are each independently novel, I would write four
independent claims reciting only a, only b, only c and only d, respectively.
Alternatively, as ineedhelp suggested, you can write a single independent
claim with a term generic to a, b, c and d, and 4 dependent claims. It
doesn't hurt to be greedy in the beginning.

【在 m*******0 的大作中提到】