w*m
2 楼
以前知道多,没想到这么多,看的人心惊肉跳的,见天的有人转发找孩子的。前几天有
一个广东的,找了2年多
没找着自己的儿子,但解救了四百多起(好像是),这个数字有点惊人
谁家孩子要是丢了,父母不得活活疼死
一个广东的,找了2年多
没找着自己的儿子,但解救了四百多起(好像是),这个数字有点惊人
谁家孩子要是丢了,父母不得活活疼死
a*7
7 楼
搜了一下没找着,不过找到这个
半年解救妇女儿童6000多名
http://www.110.com/falv/xingfa/xingshidongtai/2010/0713/87283.h
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】
: 好像是外地去深圳打工的
半年解救妇女儿童6000多名
http://www.110.com/falv/xingfa/xingshidongtai/2010/0713/87283.h
【在 w**m 的大作中提到】
: 好像是外地去深圳打工的
y*3
11 楼
米国这个事情也很多~~~
k*w
13 楼
太恐怖了。。。
z*n
14 楼
How many children are reported missing each year?
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
* 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
reported missing each day.
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: 很多? 很少听说啊。在中国可是人人自危(尽管有媒体管制)。
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
* 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
reported missing each day.
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: 很多? 很少听说啊。在中国可是人人自危(尽管有媒体管制)。
l*u
15 楼
how many of them were kidnapped?
year
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: How many children are reported missing each year?
: The U.S. Department of Justice reports
: * 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
: period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
: reported missing each day.
year
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: How many children are reported missing each year?
: The U.S. Department of Justice reports
: * 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
: period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
: reported missing each day.
a*7
16 楼
115/year
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_children_are_kidnapped_in_th
How many children are kidnapped in the U.S. every year?
In: US Census
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
* 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
reported missing each day.
* 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
* 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
* 115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping. (These
crimes involve someone the child does not know or someone of slight
acquaintance, who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles
or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child
permanently.)
see this link
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?Lang
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: how many of them were kidnapped?
:
: year
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_children_are_kidnapped_in_th
How many children are kidnapped in the U.S. every year?
In: US Census
The U.S. Department of Justice reports
* 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
reported missing each day.
* 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
* 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
* 115 children were the victims of "stereotypical" kidnapping. (These
crimes involve someone the child does not know or someone of slight
acquaintance, who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles
or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child
permanently.)
see this link
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?Lang
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: how many of them were kidnapped?
:
: year
a*7
17 楼
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/196467.pdf
Defining Nonfamily Abduction and Related Terms
• Nonfamily abduction: (1) An episode in which a
nonfamily perpetrator takes a child by the use of
physical force or threat of bodily harm or detains
the child for a substantial period of time (at least
1 hour) in an isolated place by the use of physical
force or threat of bodily harm without lawful authority
or parental permission, or (2) an episode in
which a child younger than 15 or mentally incompetent,
and without lawful authority or parental permission,
is taken or detained or voluntarily accompanies
a nonfamily perpetrator who conceals the
child’s whereabouts, demands ransom, or expresses
the intention to keep the child permanently.
• Stereotypical kidnapping: A nonfamily abduction
perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in
which a child is detained overnight, transported at
least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with
intent to keep the child permanently, or killed.
• Stranger: A perpetrator whom the child or family do
not know, or a perpetrator of unknown identity.
• Slight acquaintance: A nonfamily perpetrator whose
name is unknown to the child or family prior to the
abduction and whom the child or family did not know
well enough to speak to, or a recent acquaintance who
the child or family have known for less than 6 months,
or someone the family or child have known for longer
than 6 months but seen less than once a month.
year
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: 115/year
: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_children_are_kidnapped_in_th
: How many children are kidnapped in the U.S. every year?
: In: US Census
: The U.S. Department of Justice reports
: * 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
: period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
: reported missing each day.
: * 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
: * 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
Defining Nonfamily Abduction and Related Terms
• Nonfamily abduction: (1) An episode in which a
nonfamily perpetrator takes a child by the use of
physical force or threat of bodily harm or detains
the child for a substantial period of time (at least
1 hour) in an isolated place by the use of physical
force or threat of bodily harm without lawful authority
or parental permission, or (2) an episode in
which a child younger than 15 or mentally incompetent,
and without lawful authority or parental permission,
is taken or detained or voluntarily accompanies
a nonfamily perpetrator who conceals the
child’s whereabouts, demands ransom, or expresses
the intention to keep the child permanently.
• Stereotypical kidnapping: A nonfamily abduction
perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in
which a child is detained overnight, transported at
least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with
intent to keep the child permanently, or killed.
• Stranger: A perpetrator whom the child or family do
not know, or a perpetrator of unknown identity.
• Slight acquaintance: A nonfamily perpetrator whose
name is unknown to the child or family prior to the
abduction and whom the child or family did not know
well enough to speak to, or a recent acquaintance who
the child or family have known for less than 6 months,
or someone the family or child have known for longer
than 6 months but seen less than once a month.
year
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: 115/year
: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_children_are_kidnapped_in_th
: How many children are kidnapped in the U.S. every year?
: In: US Census
: The U.S. Department of Justice reports
: * 797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year
: period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being
: reported missing each day.
: * 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.
: * 58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.
z*n
18 楼
不明白这个non-family abductions为何不算。
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/196467.pdf
: Defining Nonfamily Abduction and Related Terms
: • Nonfamily abduction: (1) An episode in which a
: nonfamily perpetrator takes a child by the use of
: physical force or threat of bodily harm or detains
: the child for a substantial period of time (at least
: 1 hour) in an isolated place by the use of physical
: force or threat of bodily harm without lawful authority
: or parental permission, or (2) an episode in
: which a child younger than 15 or mentally incompetent,
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/196467.pdf
: Defining Nonfamily Abduction and Related Terms
: • Nonfamily abduction: (1) An episode in which a
: nonfamily perpetrator takes a child by the use of
: physical force or threat of bodily harm or detains
: the child for a substantial period of time (at least
: 1 hour) in an isolated place by the use of physical
: force or threat of bodily harm without lawful authority
: or parental permission, or (2) an episode in
: which a child younger than 15 or mentally incompetent,
a*7
19 楼
我是觉得那个Stereotypical kidnapping的定义是这样的:
• Stereotypical kidnapping: A nonfamily abduction
perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in
which a child is detained overnight, transported at
least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with
intent to keep the child permanently, or killed.
比较象国内说的小孩拐卖。non-family abductions只要detains
the child for a substantial period of time (at least
1 hour)就算了。还是overnight、transported at
least 50 miles比较合适吧。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 不明白这个non-family abductions为何不算。
• Stereotypical kidnapping: A nonfamily abduction
perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in
which a child is detained overnight, transported at
least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with
intent to keep the child permanently, or killed.
比较象国内说的小孩拐卖。non-family abductions只要detains
the child for a substantial period of time (at least
1 hour)就算了。还是overnight、transported at
least 50 miles比较合适吧。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 不明白这个non-family abductions为何不算。
z*n
20 楼
你的意思是说那五万八千个Nonfamily abduction绝大部分都是很快就找到孩子并解救
了?
如果是陌生人干的话,线索很不好找,而且既然干了,肯定没安好心,逻辑上说不通阿。
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: 我是觉得那个Stereotypical kidnapping的定义是这样的:
: • Stereotypical kidnapping: A nonfamily abduction
: perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in
: which a child is detained overnight, transported at
: least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with
: intent to keep the child permanently, or killed.
: 比较象国内说的小孩拐卖。non-family abductions只要detains
: the child for a substantial period of time (at least
: 1 hour)就算了。还是overnight、transported at
: least 50 miles比较合适吧。
了?
如果是陌生人干的话,线索很不好找,而且既然干了,肯定没安好心,逻辑上说不通阿。
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: 我是觉得那个Stereotypical kidnapping的定义是这样的:
: • Stereotypical kidnapping: A nonfamily abduction
: perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in
: which a child is detained overnight, transported at
: least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with
: intent to keep the child permanently, or killed.
: 比较象国内说的小孩拐卖。non-family abductions只要detains
: the child for a substantial period of time (at least
: 1 hour)就算了。还是overnight、transported at
: least 50 miles比较合适吧。
a*7
23 楼
假设这个PDF没撒谎的话,那5万多确实没有missed over-night啊,不然的话就会
算在sterotyped kinapping 里了。还是在那个PDF里,
Fifty-seven percent of children abducted by a nonfamily
perpetrator were missing from caretakers for
at least 1 hour, and police were contacted to help
locate 21 percent of the abducted children.
另外,
Nearly half of all child victims kidnappings
and nonfamily abductions
assaulted by the perpetrator.
看起来很多短暂失踪其实就是sexual assault案。侵犯完了就放人了,跟国内拐卖还是
不一样的。贴两个里面的表,看着更清楚。第一个表说nonfamily abductions只有小于
百分之一是被moved more than 50 miles。
我也没有看得太细,不过看起来还是才比较符合中国的拐卖定义吧。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 所以我就没有转那个155/年的数据,觉得有问题。
算在sterotyped kinapping 里了。还是在那个PDF里,
Fifty-seven percent of children abducted by a nonfamily
perpetrator were missing from caretakers for
at least 1 hour, and police were contacted to help
locate 21 percent of the abducted children.
另外,
Nearly half of all child victims kidnappings
and nonfamily abductions
assaulted by the perpetrator.
看起来很多短暂失踪其实就是sexual assault案。侵犯完了就放人了,跟国内拐卖还是
不一样的。贴两个里面的表,看着更清楚。第一个表说nonfamily abductions只有小于
百分之一是被moved more than 50 miles。
我也没有看得太细,不过看起来还是才比较符合中国的拐卖定义吧。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 所以我就没有转那个155/年的数据,觉得有问题。
z*n
24 楼
嗯,你这个解释有道理,我忘了美国很多性变态这码事了。
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: 假设这个PDF没撒谎的话,那5万多确实没有missed over-night啊,不然的话就会
: 算在sterotyped kinapping 里了。还是在那个PDF里,
: Fifty-seven percent of children abducted by a nonfamily
: perpetrator were missing from caretakers for
: at least 1 hour, and police were contacted to help
: locate 21 percent of the abducted children.
: 另外,
: Nearly half of all child victims kidnappings
: and nonfamily abductions
: assaulted by the perpetrator.
【在 a*********7 的大作中提到】
: 假设这个PDF没撒谎的话,那5万多确实没有missed over-night啊,不然的话就会
: 算在sterotyped kinapping 里了。还是在那个PDF里,
: Fifty-seven percent of children abducted by a nonfamily
: perpetrator were missing from caretakers for
: at least 1 hour, and police were contacted to help
: locate 21 percent of the abducted children.
: 另外,
: Nearly half of all child victims kidnappings
: and nonfamily abductions
: assaulted by the perpetrator.
a*7
31 楼
其实问题是中国的性变态未必就少。只不过可能这个问题还没得到足够重视。在中国,
尤其是在中国农村,小孩“丢失”一个小时左右估计不会有多少人在乎吧。只看看被揭
露出来的,猥亵学生的老师、校长的例子,就可以想象一下,中国有多少这样的性变态
了。我觉得这个比例未必比美国小,假定没有哪个民族比哪个民族高尚多少。
另外性变态的危害不能跟人贩子同日而语。一来拐卖是永久丢失;二来性变态作案频率
应该比人贩子小得多吧。一个性变态一辈子能得手的次数应该也就是几个十几个?人贩
子的买卖都是大批量的吧。
同意“中国的人贩子如此猖獗,完全是警方不作为造成的”。只要稍费点功夫,完全可
以把人口市场从根上消灭。没有市场,或者说市场小了很多,赚钱困难了,干这行的自
然就少了。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 极少数?以自己家地址方圆一英里搜搜再下结论不迟。
: 中国的人贩子如此猖獗,完全是警方不作为造成的,那些带着孩子路边乞讨的,拐来的
: 孩子占多数吧,一盘查就出来了。屁民可怜啊。
尤其是在中国农村,小孩“丢失”一个小时左右估计不会有多少人在乎吧。只看看被揭
露出来的,猥亵学生的老师、校长的例子,就可以想象一下,中国有多少这样的性变态
了。我觉得这个比例未必比美国小,假定没有哪个民族比哪个民族高尚多少。
另外性变态的危害不能跟人贩子同日而语。一来拐卖是永久丢失;二来性变态作案频率
应该比人贩子小得多吧。一个性变态一辈子能得手的次数应该也就是几个十几个?人贩
子的买卖都是大批量的吧。
同意“中国的人贩子如此猖獗,完全是警方不作为造成的”。只要稍费点功夫,完全可
以把人口市场从根上消灭。没有市场,或者说市场小了很多,赚钱困难了,干这行的自
然就少了。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 极少数?以自己家地址方圆一英里搜搜再下结论不迟。
: 中国的人贩子如此猖獗,完全是警方不作为造成的,那些带着孩子路边乞讨的,拐来的
: 孩子占多数吧,一盘查就出来了。屁民可怜啊。
f*2
32 楼
在中国,人贩子存在的土壤,一是暴利:无本生意,卖一个小孩可以赚少则几千,多则
上万。二是轻罚:卖方被抓住一般仅判小几年,有的甚至拘留几天就可以了。买方几乎
不负任何责任。而贩卖毒品超过几十克(似乎是五十克)就可判死刑。其实我觉得卖小
孩的罪更严重。如果卖小孩抓住就无期或者死刑,应该会有所好转。
有段时间在广东的一些地方,人贩子公然开着面包车上街抢劫小孩。有的小孩被爷爷奶
奶牵着散步,都冷不防被抢走塞进面包车。
上万。二是轻罚:卖方被抓住一般仅判小几年,有的甚至拘留几天就可以了。买方几乎
不负任何责任。而贩卖毒品超过几十克(似乎是五十克)就可判死刑。其实我觉得卖小
孩的罪更严重。如果卖小孩抓住就无期或者死刑,应该会有所好转。
有段时间在广东的一些地方,人贩子公然开着面包车上街抢劫小孩。有的小孩被爷爷奶
奶牵着散步,都冷不防被抢走塞进面包车。
w*m
33 楼
我不太懂北美的法律,至少我印象中从来没有见过有小孩在街上乞讨。哪位懂的给讲讲
,这边是不是法律上不允许未成年人乞讨?算虐待儿童?
如果大陆可以立法,严禁16岁以下的儿童乞讨,让城管拿出殴打小商小贩时候一半的干
劲来抓这个事,会不会乞讨儿童就少很多,一旦抓住,立刻顺藤摸瓜。不知道这样对哪
些拐卖小孩,然后把小孩弄残了放街上乞讨的事情会少一些。
再就是问号不是一直在追问微博是干吗的么,除了自大狂、暴露癖、偷窥狂之外,也能
干点实事:
http://t.sina.com.cn/n/随手拍照解救乞讨儿童
@麻辣情医吴迪:看到一个好消息,新浪和腾讯都已开通随手拍照解救乞讨儿童的官方
微博,厦门一网友拍摄的照片被认出是泉州被拐儿童杨伟鑫,推动警方追查。我找到了
新浪@随手拍照解救乞讨儿童 请大家都去关注!为了爸爸妈妈不再丢孩子。
,这边是不是法律上不允许未成年人乞讨?算虐待儿童?
如果大陆可以立法,严禁16岁以下的儿童乞讨,让城管拿出殴打小商小贩时候一半的干
劲来抓这个事,会不会乞讨儿童就少很多,一旦抓住,立刻顺藤摸瓜。不知道这样对哪
些拐卖小孩,然后把小孩弄残了放街上乞讨的事情会少一些。
再就是问号不是一直在追问微博是干吗的么,除了自大狂、暴露癖、偷窥狂之外,也能
干点实事:
http://t.sina.com.cn/n/随手拍照解救乞讨儿童
@麻辣情医吴迪:看到一个好消息,新浪和腾讯都已开通随手拍照解救乞讨儿童的官方
微博,厦门一网友拍摄的照片被认出是泉州被拐儿童杨伟鑫,推动警方追查。我找到了
新浪@随手拍照解救乞讨儿童 请大家都去关注!为了爸爸妈妈不再丢孩子。
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