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关于今年报税医疗保险的问题# Money - 海外理财
f*a
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如果我到2014年沒有醫療保險,會怎樣?
美國國稅局會發給您一份有關新法律的提醒通知。您可
能必須付罰款。如果您不購買醫療保險,罰款金額會逐
年上升。
這項法律是否有任何例外情況?
是。有些人如果沒有保險不會被罰款。
如果符合以下情況,您可能不必付罰款:
• 您無法找到費用低於您的家庭收入8%的保險;
• 您是美洲原住民、因宗教信仰反對加入保險者或受監禁
者;或者
• 您的收入很低,但不符合參加任何政府計劃的資格
微整理里一下有关Obamacare的常见问题,希望可以帮到大家。
Obamacare Act (奥巴马医疗保险政策)
问:2014年如无医疗保险的罚款是多少?
答:成人每人$95,小孩每人$47.50 或应纳税收入的1%(罚两者中较高金额),一家庭
最高罚款为$285。 例1:一家3口(爸爸、妈妈加一小孩),2014应纳税收入为$15,000
。按人数算的话,罚款是$237.50($95+$95+$47.50), 按应纳税收入的话,罚款是$150
($15,000*1%)。那这家人的罚款就是$237.50. 例2:一家5口(爸爸、妈妈和3个小孩)
,应纳税收入为$30,000。按家庭人数算的话,罚款是$332.50 ($95+$95+$47.50+$47.
50+$47.50),按应纳税收入计算的话,罚款是$300。那这家人的罚款是$285 (最高罚款
金额)。
问:是不是所有人都要买保险?
答:按照奥巴马医疗保险政策,大多数的人都会需要购买或申请医疗保险。但在8种情
况下,个人可豁免,不需要有医疗保险。
问:那在哪8种情况下可以豁免没有保险而不被罚款?
答:1. 获取医疗保险会违背宗教信仰者 2. 美国联邦政府认可的印第安人部落。 3.
家庭年收入低于联邦贫穷线者。 4. 正在处于监禁者(如正在坐牢者)。 5. 保险的保
费多于家庭收入的百份之8以上。 6. 家庭情况困难者(如无家可归,露宿者,过去6个
月内申请破产、近亲在进6个月内过世) 7. 非法移民 8. 无保险少于3个月。
现在问题来了,如果自己是自雇。如何买医疗保险省钱划算?
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x*n
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看看自雇是干什么的了,有的协会都有自己的保险计划。

【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 如果我到2014年沒有醫療保險,會怎樣?
: 美國國稅局會發給您一份有關新法律的提醒通知。您可
: 能必須付罰款。如果您不購買醫療保險,罰款金額會逐
: 年上升。
: 這項法律是否有任何例外情況?
: 是。有些人如果沒有保險不會被罰款。
: 如果符合以下情況,您可能不必付罰款:
: • 您無法找到費用低於您的家庭收入8%的保險;
: • 您是美洲原住民、因宗教信仰反對加入保險者或受監禁
: 者;或者

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c*2
3
???
一家庭最高罚款为$285。
if a family income is $150K in 2014 and no insurance, also 一家庭最高罚款为$
285??
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m*p
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上边中文的措辞排版有误导,还是以官方解释为准
引自
https://www.healthcare.gov/fees-exemptions/fee-for-not-being-covered/
The fee for not having coverage in 2014
If you didn’t have coverage in 2014, you’ll pay the higher of these two
amounts:
1% of your yearly household income. (Only the amount of income above the tax
filing threshold, about $10,000 for an individual, is used to calculate the
penalty.) The maximum penalty is the national average premium for a bronze
plan.
$95 per person for the year ($47.50 per child under 18). The maximum penalty
per family using this method is $285.
家庭收入1%和$285两者选最高的那个,所以如果你家庭收入>$28,500的话所交罚款就大
于$285了,15万AGI(不清楚是不是用AGI算的)要罚$1500,2015 tax year要罚$3000,
2016年度要罚$3750

为$

【在 c**2 的大作中提到】
: ???
: 一家庭最高罚款为$285。
: if a family income is $150K in 2014 and no insurance, also 一家庭最高罚款为$
: 285??

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r*a
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傻逼保险,有些一个月要付$100多还有高deductible copay,是吃饭重要还是保险?
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w*7
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如果一年有几个月没有保险,是按比例扣吗?有没有保险,是自己申报吗?政府如何审查
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g*2
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我被扣了685
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r*8
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BSO工资高

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

【在 g**********2 的大作中提到】
: 我被扣了685
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m*2
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这个罚款是可以不交的!只要你们没有tax refund,IRS没地儿罚你。By law, they
cannot take your asset because you do not have obamacare. They can only take
the money from your tax refund. If you are self-employed, usually you do
not have a tax refund. So you are safe.
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r*8
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谁说的。和有没有refund没关系,和交不交税有关。他如果不用交税,的确没有罚款,
但是有没有refund没关系。

take
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 这个罚款是可以不交的!只要你们没有tax refund,IRS没地儿罚你。By law, they
: cannot take your asset because you do not have obamacare. They can only take
: the money from your tax refund. If you are self-employed, usually you do
: not have a tax refund. So you are safe.

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m*2
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没有refund,IRS怎么扣你的钱?

【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: 谁说的。和有没有refund没关系,和交不交税有关。他如果不用交税,的确没有罚款,
: 但是有没有refund没关系。
:
: take
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

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r*8
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知道啥叫补税不。每年好多人报税要给IRS寄支票的。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 没有refund,IRS怎么扣你的钱?
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r*8
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你这么说,你可以让HR不要withhold税,然后反正没有refund,就干脆不用交税了?IRS
找你收钱的方式多了。在美国,你欠谁的钱都好,不要mess with IRS.

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 没有refund,IRS怎么扣你的钱?
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m*2
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你懂不懂啊?放狗去搜!

【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: 知道啥叫补税不。每年好多人报税要给IRS寄支票的。
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

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m*2
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给你提供一点材料!
So what would the penalty for noncompliance be? Jail time? Nope. The
language in the Act specifically rules out jail time, saying at Section 500A
(g)(2)(A):
In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty
imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal
prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
So, no jail time.
But that means that the IRS will chase you and lien your property if you don
’t pay, right?
Nope. That’s not allowed under the Act. At 500A(g)(2)(B)(i), the Treasury
cannot “file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by
reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section.”
So, no liens.
Then, clearly there will be levies or seizures on your wages and account,
right?
Nope. Not that either. Under 500A(g)(2)(B)(ii), the Treasury cannot “levy
on any such property with respect to such failure.”
To recap then, by law, you have to pay the penalty. But if you don’t, you
won’t go to jail, you won’t be liened and you won’t be levied for
collection.
Is there anything that could happen to you if you choose not to pay? With no
jail, no liens and no levies, it doesn’t leave the IRS a lot of room to
work when it comes to collections. Congress actually managed to create, as I
wrote in 2012 and in in 2013, an incredibly complex and burdensome law
without any teeth.
Well, maybe some teeth. Baby teeth. The IRS might seize any part or all of
your refund in order to satisfy your obligation. Might. IRS hasn’t come
right out and said that it absolutely will offset your refund if you owe a
penalty for failure to pay. However, in the Final Regulations issued on this
matter, IRS noted that “[n]othing in this section prohibits the Secretary
from offsetting any liability for the shared responsibility payment against
any overpayment due the taxpayer, in accordance with section 6402(a) and its
corresponding regulations.” That’s sufficiently passive aggressive, right
? You’re on notice that the IRS doesn’t think that it’s barred from
taking your refund. They’re not saying they will (for certain) but they’re
not saying they won’t either.
So is there anything you can expect for sure? You can definitely expect a
lot of letter writing and virtual shaking of the government’s fist at you.
Maybe even some blustering, for good measure.
But real consequences? Other than that potential refund seizure and a guilty
conscience, there’s nothing to keep taxpayers from opting out of paying.
Will they? We’ll have to wait and see.

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 你懂不懂啊?放狗去搜!
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f*a
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多谢指点,但是这个跟欠税有区别吗?那基本上就是欠税吧?用电子报税,直接忽略这
个恐怕以后政府来信会有麻烦吧。。。

take

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 这个罚款是可以不交的!只要你们没有tax refund,IRS没地儿罚你。By law, they
: cannot take your asset because you do not have obamacare. They can only take
: the money from your tax refund. If you are self-employed, usually you do
: not have a tax refund. So you are safe.

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f*a
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如果有collection notice, 他们可以通知几个credit bureau 影响欠款人的信用吧。
。。

500A
criminal
don

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 给你提供一点材料!
: So what would the penalty for noncompliance be? Jail time? Nope. The
: language in the Act specifically rules out jail time, saying at Section 500A
: (g)(2)(A):
: In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty
: imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal
: prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
: So, no jail time.
: But that means that the IRS will chase you and lien your property if you don
: ’t pay, right?

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m*2
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法律上 obamacare penalty 和欠税是不一样,但是法很新,没有人有很多经验。

【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢指点,但是这个跟欠税有区别吗?那基本上就是欠税吧?用电子报税,直接忽略这
: 个恐怕以后政府来信会有麻烦吧。。。
:
: take

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m*2
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法律上 obamacare penalty 和欠税是不一样,但是法很新,没有人有很多经验。

【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢指点,但是这个跟欠税有区别吗?那基本上就是欠税吧?用电子报税,直接忽略这
: 个恐怕以后政府来信会有麻烦吧。。。
:
: take

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r*8
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你这么解释是不是IRS的解释啊,你这么跟楼主讲,他真的不管了,到时候IRS找他,你
是要帮他付么?

500A
criminal
don

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 给你提供一点材料!
: So what would the penalty for noncompliance be? Jail time? Nope. The
: language in the Act specifically rules out jail time, saying at Section 500A
: (g)(2)(A):
: In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty
: imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal
: prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
: So, no jail time.
: But that means that the IRS will chase you and lien your property if you don
: ’t pay, right?

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r*8
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没有很多人有经验,所以怎么解释就看IRS了。就算他不主动收,你还是欠着啊,你今
年没有refund,以后也没有么,他从你明年的refund里扣怎么办?万一有罚款,还有利
息,你确定你玩的过IRS么?你把一篇都不知道是谁写的文章拿出来误导楼主,真是网
上说话不用付责任啊。

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 法律上 obamacare penalty 和欠税是不一样,但是法很新,没有人有很多经验。
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m*2
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我真是捉急啊!谁写的,你就不能放狗搜搜?只是给楼主提供信息,楼主又不傻,有自
己的判断力。我替你搜搜,给你个链接:http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2015/02/26/opting-out-of-the-obamacare-tax/
如果你认为forbes也是小报,那我也没办法。
楼主自己的情况他自己最清楚,我们只是提供有用信息,不是作法律顾问。

【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: 你这么解释是不是IRS的解释啊,你这么跟楼主讲,他真的不管了,到时候IRS找他,你
: 是要帮他付么?
:
: 500A
: criminal
: don

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r*8
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Forbes写的也不代表是对的啊。Forbes上的文章和foxnews一样,都是偏保守派的,极
力反对obamacare. 他们只不过想以此来攻击这个法案而已。就算像你说的,IRS的确不
能采取那几种方案,他们可以至少也能把这个当作你欠信用卡公司的钱一样交给
collection agency. IRS比银行强大之处还在于可以从你以后的tax refund里面扣除今
年欠的加上罚款。所以,楼主如果不交钱,会至少比欠信用卡钱要严重。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 我真是捉急啊!谁写的,你就不能放狗搜搜?只是给楼主提供信息,楼主又不傻,有自
: 己的判断力。我替你搜搜,给你个链接:http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2015/02/26/opting-out-of-the-obamacare-tax/
: 如果你认为forbes也是小报,那我也没办法。
: 楼主自己的情况他自己最清楚,我们只是提供有用信息,不是作法律顾问。

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m*2
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呵呵,不抬杠了,我不说了吗,楼主也不傻,会有自己的判断的。这个法律太新,今年
刚施行。IRS在这方面厉害不厉害,还没有经过时间的检验。IRS在这个法律方面没准是
一只老虎,没准是一只病猫。共和党一直再找obamacare的茬,如果他们上台,你说IRS
会咋办?没人可以预知未来。

【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: Forbes写的也不代表是对的啊。Forbes上的文章和foxnews一样,都是偏保守派的,极
: 力反对obamacare. 他们只不过想以此来攻击这个法案而已。就算像你说的,IRS的确不
: 能采取那几种方案,他们可以至少也能把这个当作你欠信用卡公司的钱一样交给
: collection agency. IRS比银行强大之处还在于可以从你以后的tax refund里面扣除今
: 年欠的加上罚款。所以,楼主如果不交钱,会至少比欠信用卡钱要严重。
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2

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f*a
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多谢大家的建议,我认为还是不要因为百来块美金惹来大麻烦。Irs 和 state 的
agencies 都有接触过, 也听过很多horror stories都是真人真事, 咱们华人在美国不
管是什么身份..公民绿卡,都还是外人。二等公民,政府惹不起,躲不起。有时只有从了,
谁要咱要赖在人家这呢。 甚至都有很多土生土长的老白认为irs 是 unconstitutional
. 本来个人所得工资不属于revenue (公司盈利)
以前只有商人公司需要赋税, 对劳工的工资(劳动所得)是不需要缴税的。
后来great depression 大萧条后, 有几大控制美国的elite group 大财团改变了游戏
规则,当时洛克飞勒就是其中一位。现在普通百姓人人都得交所得税。
但是还是有很多有种的白人敢跟irs斗。说这些制度和机构违宪。违背了founding
father 建国先贤们的制国纲领。拒付个人所得税。irs 不是为美国人民谋福祉为公众
服务的机构。它们和federal reserve 按理说都是凌驾于法律之上的富人的游戏工具。

IRS

【在 m**2 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,不抬杠了,我不说了吗,楼主也不傻,会有自己的判断的。这个法律太新,今年
: 刚施行。IRS在这方面厉害不厉害,还没有经过时间的检验。IRS在这个法律方面没准是
: 一只老虎,没准是一只病猫。共和党一直再找obamacare的茬,如果他们上台,你说IRS
: 会咋办?没人可以预知未来。

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f*a
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一個保守派監督組織29日代表25個茶黨團體將奧巴馬政府和國稅局(IRS)告上法庭,
令國稅局針對保守派免稅團體查稅的的政治醜聞再度升級。
政治新聞網站politico報道,這份由「美國正義與法律中心」(ACLJ)向哥倫比亞特區
聯邦地區法庭遞交的訴狀稱,奧巴馬政府的行為屬於越權,並且違反了憲法第一和第五
修正案賦予公民的權利。
ACLJ的首席法律顧問席庫洛在一份聲明中說,「鑑於這個有違憲法的陰种两袢栽诶^續
,中止這種明目張膽地損害當事人受憲法保護權利的唯一途徑,就是訴諸聯邦法庭。」
席庫洛稱,訴訟的目的是要向IRS和包括白宮在內的奧巴馬政府傳遞一個強有力的信息
,那就是美國人不會受制於政府的欺凌。
訴狀指控IRS和奧巴馬政府官員「單純基於原告的政治立場」,「對原告的免稅申請非
法拖延,進而達到拒絕申請的目的」。訴訟要求聯邦法庭禁止IRS繼續發生濫權或報復
行為,同時要求對原告作出數目不明的補償。
來自全國的25個茶黨團體在訴狀中以原告身分出現。被指明為被告的包括IRS、司法部
長霍爾德、財長雅各布盧、即將離任的原IRS代局長米勒和上周已被停職的IRS免稅團體
事務主管勒爾納。
此次訴訟是繼IRS承認對名稱含有「茶黨」或「愛國者」等語義的團體進行重點審查後
受到的又一次法律挑戰。
華府的「公民責任和道德」組織上周在聯邦地區法院遞交訴狀,要求IRS詳細解釋當局
是如何審查非營利團體的免稅申請。
另外,「北加州茶黨愛國者」也於上周以IRS侵犯公民權利為由,在辛辛那提聯邦地區
法庭提請訴訟。
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f*a
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Woodrow Wilson was elected President in 1913, beating incumbent William
Howard Taft, who had vowed to veto legislation establishing a central bank.
One year earlier, in 1912, Wilson was brought to Democratic Party
headquarters by Bernard Baruch, a conspiring banker mogul. Here Wilson
agreed to a deal with the devils in exchange for political and financial
support from the Rockefeller-Morgan bankers. Wilson swore in secret that if
elected President, he would support the banker's Federal Reserve scam and
push for the first ever progressive income tax on the American people.
To divide the Republican vote and elect this relatively unknown Wilson, J.P.
Morgan and Rockefeller bankers played both sides of the election battle and
poured money into the candidacy of Teddy Roosevelt and his Progressive
Party to pave the way for Wilson's ticket to win. These sophisticated
political maneuverings were unknown to our great grandparents, but today we
are beginning to wake up to the truth.
Once elected, President Wilson obeyed his dark masters and enacted
unprecedented changes to our great Constitution. In that single year of 1913
, President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act and the Revenue Act of
1913, chaining all future Americans to the dual horrors of the FED and the
IRS. In order to make these acts binding and appear legitimate to Americans,
President Wilson pushed through congress two Constitutional Amendments: the
16th and 17th Amendments. These two amendments remain in our Constitution
like a malignant cancer destroying the once healthy body of our great nation
. The year 1913 stands as the year that America changed forever and the
seminal year in Federal Reserve history. It is time to repeal these
amendments, and right the wrongs that Wilson did to our great nation.
President Wilson knew what he did was wrong. After serving the dark forces,
he would later lament in his diary, "I have unwittingly ruined my country."
Wilson also broke his campaign promises and took America into WW1, and later
the failed League of Nations. Wilson shows us a revelation that Americans
must guard against elected officials who guide us into unrighteous wars and
desire to establish entangling international systems of rules, organizations
and government.
Key Quote: "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A
great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit... all our
activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the
worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments
in the civilized world, no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a
Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by
the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
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f*a
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The Internal Revenue Service was created in 1913 with the passage of the
16th Amendment. It is the government agency responsible for the collection
of all income tax. Prior to the 16th Amendment, a tax on income was
explicitly illegal as set forth in the Constitution. There was a brief time
during the Civil War that the government imposed an income tax on the people
, but it was later shut down in court as being unconstitutional. In the
early days of the IRS, the new income tax was intended to only affect a
small percentage of the population, primarily very wealthy individuals who
made their money investing or in financial transactions. "Income" up until
this point was defined that way.
The IRS and the Income Tax were never supposed to tax money earned from your
labor. It was sold to the people as a tax that would only target what we
would consider capital gains today, and then only the capital gains of the
very rich. Since its inception, the income tax has gone from a tax of about
3% on the financial gains of the very wealthiest peoples, to now a top
bracket of 35% that ensnares much of the population. And that is just the
federal tax. States also tax income, and tax us they do.
The IRS codes and rules are so complicated that abuses run wild. I ask you
is it right to have to hire a team of professionals just to figure out your
taxes? Is it right for the IRS to be able to turn your life upside down with
an audit because they want to make sure you really have that home office
you wrote off? The IRS is intentionally complicated and on their own record
state that they use fear and intimidation in order to make people comply. In
the least, the IRS can be used to turn honest people into cheats, at worst,
people go to jail at the point of a financial gun. Much more can be said
about the IRS, but what says it all is a poll taken of Americans who were
asked which is the most feared agency in the government. The overwhelming
answer: the IRS
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f*a
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大家都知道当初美国独立建国就是因为要拒绝和抵抗殖民宗主国的统治,压迫和赋税。
立国之本,宪法本
保护美国人不被乱增税和限制政府的权利。因为建国先贤和美国人民都是痛恨和排斥剥
削不公平奴役人民的政府的。
结果先贤们仙逝后,他们万万都没想到他们用心血生命换来的立国之本的根基也早已被
挖空和篡改。一小撮corrupt的歼商资本家和他们的傀儡政治家把美国挖得就剩下空壳
。这个卖给我们的american dream , freedom liberty, democracy 都是海市蜃楼,蛊
惑人心的迷天大幌。
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r*8
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首先,IRS并不违法,反而有宪法第16修正案的强力支持,不然这个美国几乎人人害怕
的组织如何能存活至今。“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect
taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived”
其次,美国联邦政府的职权从建国初的几乎没有,到现在的一步步扩张而成的庞然大物
,多少机构,各种welfare,都需要revenue来支持。

了,
unconstitutional

【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢大家的建议,我认为还是不要因为百来块美金惹来大麻烦。Irs 和 state 的
: agencies 都有接触过, 也听过很多horror stories都是真人真事, 咱们华人在美国不
: 管是什么身份..公民绿卡,都还是外人。二等公民,政府惹不起,躲不起。有时只有从了,
: 谁要咱要赖在人家这呢。 甚至都有很多土生土长的老白认为irs 是 unconstitutional
: . 本来个人所得工资不属于revenue (公司盈利)
: 以前只有商人公司需要赋税, 对劳工的工资(劳动所得)是不需要缴税的。
: 后来great depression 大萧条后, 有几大控制美国的elite group 大财团改变了游戏
: 规则,当时洛克飞勒就是其中一位。现在普通百姓人人都得交所得税。
: 但是还是有很多有种的白人敢跟irs斗。说这些制度和机构违宪。违背了founding
: father 建国先贤们的制国纲领。拒付个人所得税。irs 不是为美国人民谋福祉为公众

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d*j
31
ca你自己去成立一个不收税的政府出来吧

【在 f****a 的大作中提到】
: 大家都知道当初美国独立建国就是因为要拒绝和抵抗殖民宗主国的统治,压迫和赋税。
: 立国之本,宪法本
: 保护美国人不被乱增税和限制政府的权利。因为建国先贤和美国人民都是痛恨和排斥剥
: 削不公平奴役人民的政府的。
: 结果先贤们仙逝后,他们万万都没想到他们用心血生命换来的立国之本的根基也早已被
: 挖空和篡改。一小撮corrupt的歼商资本家和他们的傀儡政治家把美国挖得就剩下空壳
: 。这个卖给我们的american dream , freedom liberty, democracy 都是海市蜃楼,蛊
: 惑人心的迷天大幌。

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f*a
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不用这么极端,不是不收税而是少收普通老百姓税,多收富人和公司税。但是美国国家
超过50%的税收都是普通老百姓缴的,大公司只有不到10%,富人的税率跟穷人比表面上
高一点,但是他们有Tax shelters, 合法避税逃税比普通劳动人民容易方便的多。
说什么话都不能太钻牛角尖,不能太片面和极端。
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f*a
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但这个修正案通过时候很多人说程序是unconstitutional, 法律由游戏规则制定者通过
。不代表符合全美国人民的共同利益。不代表普通老百姓支持。

【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: 首先,IRS并不违法,反而有宪法第16修正案的强力支持,不然这个美国几乎人人害怕
: 的组织如何能存活至今。“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect
: taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived”
: 其次,美国联邦政府的职权从建国初的几乎没有,到现在的一步步扩张而成的庞然大物
: ,多少机构,各种welfare,都需要revenue来支持。
:
: 了,
: unconstitutional

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s*5
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胆大的,充分利用法律条文搞IRS;胆小的把头埋沙里,装不知道有这法律条文,对IRS
百依百顺了。每个人有每个人的活法,不必强求一致。
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