b*r
2 楼
samsung galaxy note 2 verizion
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的ip都是通用的 LTE也一样
: 三星，htc那些玩意还分v版a版机子吗？
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的ip都是通用的 LTE也一样
: 三星，htc那些玩意还分v版a版机子吗？
g*1
3 楼
所有Verizon的4G手机
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的ip都是通用的 LTE也一样
: 三星，htc那些玩意还分v版a版机子吗？
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的ip都是通用的 LTE也一样
: 三星，htc那些玩意还分v版a版机子吗？
d*8
4 楼
我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】
: 所有Verizon的4G手机
所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】
: 所有Verizon的4G手机
j*e
5 楼
v版的note3可以用att这么说？
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
: 所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
: 所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
c*r
6 楼
这个不是小不小气的原因吧。
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
: 所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
: 所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
m*s
7 楼
should be fine, 4G verizon phone comes with unlocked sim slot
3G verizon phone might have locked sim
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的note3可以用att这么说？
3G verizon phone might have locked sim
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的note3可以用att这么说？
c*l
8 楼
这不是VZ大方
当初VZ和FCC要频段时，FCC说你必须保证在这个频段上所有的LTE都无锁
VZ答应了
这是政府近些年来做得为数不多的好事之一
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
: 所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
当初VZ和FCC要频段时，FCC说你必须保证在这个频段上所有的LTE都无锁
VZ答应了
这是政府近些年来做得为数不多的好事之一
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我知道note 2, 跟 note 3 通用cdma/gsm.
: 所有???，thumbs up for Verizon, 大大方方不小气
d*8
9 楼
i c
【在 c********l 的大作中提到】
: 这不是VZ大方
: 当初VZ和FCC要频段时，FCC说你必须保证在这个频段上所有的LTE都无锁
: VZ答应了
: 这是政府近些年来做得为数不多的好事之一
【在 c********l 的大作中提到】
: 这不是VZ大方
: 当初VZ和FCC要频段时，FCC说你必须保证在这个频段上所有的LTE都无锁
: VZ答应了
: 这是政府近些年来做得为数不多的好事之一
d*8
10 楼
我跟v的rep聊天，rep说的。
they call it "globally ready phone", but you have to call them b4 travel to
make
sure.
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的note3可以用att这么说？
they call it "globally ready phone", but you have to call them b4 travel to
make
sure.
【在 j*****e 的大作中提到】
: v版的note3可以用att这么说？
s*e
11 楼
"globally ready phone" --- This is a just big big big bulls**t from Verizon
to lure unknowledgeable subscribers into their traps.
In the past, before Verizon have 4G LTE (GSM unlocked per FCC requirement)
phones, the only way to use a Verizon phone in a foreign country (for
example, China) was to use the roaming service for which Verizon charges a
very expensive rate.
But if you are fine with just using the roaming service and paying a huge
bill from Verizon, then you don't need any special "globally ready phone" to
do it, because VERY phone is "globally ready" in this sense. My Verizon (
dumb) phone back in 2004 could work perfectly in China on roaming service.
But of course, what we really want is to be able to plug SIM cards from
local carriers into our phones when we travel abroad. This was NOT possible
for Verizon phones UNTIL 4G LTE came to Verizon. Now virtually all Verizon
4G LTE phones are GSM unlocked out of the box, which means you can just go
to any place and buy a local SIM for using in your phone (the frequency
bands also need to match with what the phone model supports, but this is not
a issue for many carriers in many countries.)
For the phone itself, you do NOT need to do or ask Verizon to do anything
else to make it more "globally ready" than it already is. BUT, Verizon do
NOT advertise/tell this truth to everyone because this is causing them to
lose their profit from the roaming service bills.
What they do instead is to create this "new" thing called "globally ready
phones" and make it sound as if you cannot use your Verizon phone abroad if
you don't ask Verizon to enable the "global feature" for you. When you
request for it, they do nothing with the phone but simply try to enroll you
into their various "global roaming plans" -- none of these plans would be
necessary in most cases (unless you do have special needs) if the customer
had known about the phones ability to use other local SIM cards.
If you are knowledgeable enough to ask them about the phone's readiness for
using foreign SIM cards, they don't lie -- they will tell you the truth. But
if you don't know much about it, or just ask them how I can use the phone
when I travel abroad, they will just withhold the real truth from you and
try to sell their snake oil -- this is how they save as much as possible
profit from their global roaming charges in the midst of 4G LTE / SIM
unlocked phones.
to
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我跟v的rep聊天，rep说的。
: they call it "globally ready phone", but you have to call them b4 travel to
: make
: sure.
to lure unknowledgeable subscribers into their traps.
In the past, before Verizon have 4G LTE (GSM unlocked per FCC requirement)
phones, the only way to use a Verizon phone in a foreign country (for
example, China) was to use the roaming service for which Verizon charges a
very expensive rate.
But if you are fine with just using the roaming service and paying a huge
bill from Verizon, then you don't need any special "globally ready phone" to
do it, because VERY phone is "globally ready" in this sense. My Verizon (
dumb) phone back in 2004 could work perfectly in China on roaming service.
But of course, what we really want is to be able to plug SIM cards from
local carriers into our phones when we travel abroad. This was NOT possible
for Verizon phones UNTIL 4G LTE came to Verizon. Now virtually all Verizon
4G LTE phones are GSM unlocked out of the box, which means you can just go
to any place and buy a local SIM for using in your phone (the frequency
bands also need to match with what the phone model supports, but this is not
a issue for many carriers in many countries.)
For the phone itself, you do NOT need to do or ask Verizon to do anything
else to make it more "globally ready" than it already is. BUT, Verizon do
NOT advertise/tell this truth to everyone because this is causing them to
lose their profit from the roaming service bills.
What they do instead is to create this "new" thing called "globally ready
phones" and make it sound as if you cannot use your Verizon phone abroad if
you don't ask Verizon to enable the "global feature" for you. When you
request for it, they do nothing with the phone but simply try to enroll you
into their various "global roaming plans" -- none of these plans would be
necessary in most cases (unless you do have special needs) if the customer
had known about the phones ability to use other local SIM cards.
If you are knowledgeable enough to ask them about the phone's readiness for
using foreign SIM cards, they don't lie -- they will tell you the truth. But
if you don't know much about it, or just ask them how I can use the phone
when I travel abroad, they will just withhold the real truth from you and
try to sell their snake oil -- this is how they save as much as possible
profit from their global roaming charges in the midst of 4G LTE / SIM
unlocked phones.
to
【在 d******8 的大作中提到】
: 我跟v的rep聊天，rep说的。
: they call it "globally ready phone", but you have to call them b4 travel to
: make
: sure.
A*Z
12 楼
FCC还要求VZW允许小运营商漫游到他家LTE上。VZW也不亏，一口气能把lower C Block
的频段全吞了。现在VZW是唯一一个continental 50 states都有至少20MHz的运营商。
比起AT&T现在还在东拼西凑找cable公司谈判买频段是爽多了。
【在 c********l 的大作中提到】
: 这不是VZ大方
: 当初VZ和FCC要频段时，FCC说你必须保证在这个频段上所有的LTE都无锁
: VZ答应了
: 这是政府近些年来做得为数不多的好事之一
的频段全吞了。现在VZW是唯一一个continental 50 states都有至少20MHz的运营商。
比起AT&T现在还在东拼西凑找cable公司谈判买频段是爽多了。
【在 c********l 的大作中提到】
: 这不是VZ大方
: 当初VZ和FCC要频段时，FCC说你必须保证在这个频段上所有的LTE都无锁
: VZ答应了
: 这是政府近些年来做得为数不多的好事之一
d*8
13 楼
but i did specifically ask them wheather i could use local SIM card to avoid
roaming charges when i travel. they replied yes twice: once i chatted with
online rep and once with local corporate store rep.
but the link below seems confirm what you said...
http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/14060/how-can-i-use-m
another article explains differences between globally ready vs international
sim unlock.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/international-travelers-h
Verizon
to
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: "globally ready phone" --- This is a just big big big bulls**t from Verizon
: to lure unknowledgeable subscribers into their traps.
: In the past, before Verizon have 4G LTE (GSM unlocked per FCC requirement)
: phones, the only way to use a Verizon phone in a foreign country (for
: example, China) was to use the roaming service for which Verizon charges a
: very expensive rate.
: But if you are fine with just using the roaming service and paying a huge
: bill from Verizon, then you don't need any special "globally ready phone" to
: do it, because VERY phone is "globally ready" in this sense. My Verizon (
: dumb) phone back in 2004 could work perfectly in China on roaming service.
roaming charges when i travel. they replied yes twice: once i chatted with
online rep and once with local corporate store rep.
but the link below seems confirm what you said...
http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/14060/how-can-i-use-m
another article explains differences between globally ready vs international
sim unlock.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/international-travelers-h
Verizon
to
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: "globally ready phone" --- This is a just big big big bulls**t from Verizon
: to lure unknowledgeable subscribers into their traps.
: In the past, before Verizon have 4G LTE (GSM unlocked per FCC requirement)
: phones, the only way to use a Verizon phone in a foreign country (for
: example, China) was to use the roaming service for which Verizon charges a
: very expensive rate.
: But if you are fine with just using the roaming service and paying a huge
: bill from Verizon, then you don't need any special "globally ready phone" to
: do it, because VERY phone is "globally ready" in this sense. My Verizon (
: dumb) phone back in 2004 could work perfectly in China on roaming service.
p*o
14 楼
tmobile 业界良心，国际漫游出市话费
u*d
15 楼
V家的小二是很不地道。
Verizon
to
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: "globally ready phone" --- This is a just big big big bulls**t from Verizon
: to lure unknowledgeable subscribers into their traps.
: In the past, before Verizon have 4G LTE (GSM unlocked per FCC requirement)
: phones, the only way to use a Verizon phone in a foreign country (for
: example, China) was to use the roaming service for which Verizon charges a
: very expensive rate.
: But if you are fine with just using the roaming service and paying a huge
: bill from Verizon, then you don't need any special "globally ready phone" to
: do it, because VERY phone is "globally ready" in this sense. My Verizon (
: dumb) phone back in 2004 could work perfectly in China on roaming service.
Verizon
to
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: "globally ready phone" --- This is a just big big big bulls**t from Verizon
: to lure unknowledgeable subscribers into their traps.
: In the past, before Verizon have 4G LTE (GSM unlocked per FCC requirement)
: phones, the only way to use a Verizon phone in a foreign country (for
: example, China) was to use the roaming service for which Verizon charges a
: very expensive rate.
: But if you are fine with just using the roaming service and paying a huge
: bill from Verizon, then you don't need any special "globally ready phone" to
: do it, because VERY phone is "globally ready" in this sense. My Verizon (
: dumb) phone back in 2004 could work perfectly in China on roaming service.
d*8
16 楼
重新跟verizon 的零售商确认了旅行时，打电话的问题。
有两个选择：
1. 加global package/option, 其实就是漫游，比不加要便宜一些，但是可以保留原来
号码，data 的使用费用好像$25/100MB.
2. for "World Phone", 像是s4, note 3, iphone 5s/5c 之类的， 出行前可以要求
international sim unlock， 这样就可以插别的sim card,用当地的话费。
根据上文
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/international-travelers-h
Verizon 10个月内只有一次unlock 机会。也就是说，两年合同内，最多只可以unlock
3 次。
有两个选择：
1. 加global package/option, 其实就是漫游，比不加要便宜一些，但是可以保留原来
号码，data 的使用费用好像$25/100MB.
2. for "World Phone", 像是s4, note 3, iphone 5s/5c 之类的， 出行前可以要求
international sim unlock， 这样就可以插别的sim card,用当地的话费。
根据上文
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/international-travelers-h
Verizon 10个月内只有一次unlock 机会。也就是说，两年合同内，最多只可以unlock
3 次。
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