T*e
2 楼
参考2008 liquidity crunch，gold跌了大概1/4，silver从20跌倒9 是50%-60%。
这次gold可能跌到1400-1500，silver跌倒20-25.
这次gold可能跌到1400-1500，silver跌倒20-25.
f*5
3 楼
有人科普一下吗？ Chicago 老师罢工 学校还要不要给他们发工资？
h*o
5 楼
什么新法案？
r*n
6 楼
今天就索性多干点水。个人觉得金子前景堪忧。记得前几周有人预测金子未来几年会到
５０００美元。 我觉得有点夸张。只有一种情况金子会疯狂的张道５０００ 甚至１
００００。那就是大规模战争（核战争）。如果你认为很有可能，那就买进金子吧。不
要计较是１６００， １７００ 还是１８００。如果你认为不可能，那在我看来金子
仅仅比泥土贵一点点而已。
５０００美元。 我觉得有点夸张。只有一种情况金子会疯狂的张道５０００ 甚至１
００００。那就是大规模战争（核战争）。如果你认为很有可能，那就买进金子吧。不
要计较是１６００， １７００ 还是１８００。如果你认为不可能，那在我看来金子
仅仅比泥土贵一点点而已。
m*y
7 楼
一般复工的第一个条件就是补发罢工期间的工资
C*e
8 楼
Retention of EB–1, EB–2, and EB–3 Immigrant Workers and Program
Improvements Affecting High-Skilled Nonimmigrant Workers
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 什么新法案？
Improvements Affecting High-Skilled Nonimmigrant Workers
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 什么新法案？
r*k
9 楼
按银子的跌法，两天即可跌到目标价位了，所以其实也没啥担心的，反正涨上来也快，
08年暴跌后这些东西还是继续创新高。你要做的是握住筹码，不被主力两面抽。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 参考2008 liquidity crunch，gold跌了大概1/4，silver从20跌倒9 是50%-60%。
: 这次gold可能跌到1400-1500，silver跌倒20-25.
08年暴跌后这些东西还是继续创新高。你要做的是握住筹码，不被主力两面抽。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 参考2008 liquidity crunch，gold跌了大概1/4，silver从20跌倒9 是50%-60%。
: 这次gold可能跌到1400-1500，silver跌倒20-25.
z*a
10 楼
马工吗脓可否组织起来罢工一段时间？
跟资本家们讨论一下贫困县的事情
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一般复工的第一个条件就是补发罢工期间的工资
跟资本家们讨论一下贫困县的事情
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 一般复工的第一个条件就是补发罢工期间的工资
x*n
11 楼
REALLY? or 485 RD?
T*e
12 楼
金子的用处是储存价值但没有利息，好处是不会被增发不会default。
纸币用于流通。
bond是另一个很好的储存器，有利息但会被增发和default。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: 今天就索性多干点水。个人觉得金子前景堪忧。记得前几周有人预测金子未来几年会到
: ５０００美元。 我觉得有点夸张。只有一种情况金子会疯狂的张道５０００ 甚至１
: ００００。那就是大规模战争（核战争）。如果你认为很有可能，那就买进金子吧。不
: 要计较是１６００， １７００ 还是１８００。如果你认为不可能，那在我看来金子
: 仅仅比泥土贵一点点而已。
b*r
13 楼
如果是计时工资（大部分工会成员是计时），现在不要发，但是复工的条件可以是补发
全部或部分
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】
: 有人科普一下吗？ Chicago 老师罢工 学校还要不要给他们发工资？
全部或部分
【在 f*******5 的大作中提到】
: 有人科普一下吗？ Chicago 老师罢工 学校还要不要给他们发工资？
s*u
14 楼
真是从140批准日算吗，请楼主把原文段落贴一下
: REALLY? or 485 RD?
【在 x******n 的大作中提到】
: REALLY? or 485 RD?
: REALLY? or 485 RD?
【在 x******n 的大作中提到】
: REALLY? or 485 RD?
d*d
15 楼
请问到哪里去买金子呢?是不是买SPDR就可以了?
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 金子的用处是储存价值但没有利息，好处是不会被增发不会default。
: 纸币用于流通。
: bond是另一个很好的储存器，有利息但会被增发和default。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 金子的用处是储存价值但没有利息，好处是不会被增发不会default。
: 纸币用于流通。
: bond是另一个很好的储存器，有利息但会被增发和default。
j*i
16 楼
码工码农工贼多，你不干有人干
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: 马工吗脓可否组织起来罢工一段时间？
: 跟资本家们讨论一下贫困县的事情
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: 马工吗脓可否组织起来罢工一段时间？
: 跟资本家们讨论一下贫困县的事情
f*o
17 楼
新法案实施对已经交的485有影响么。好像要交J表。比以前更麻烦。以前只要EVL就可
以了。
以了。
l*t
18 楼
APMEX.com for physical gold.
paper gold: GLD
【在 d*****d 的大作中提到】
: 请问到哪里去买金子呢?是不是买SPDR就可以了?
paper gold: GLD
【在 d*****d 的大作中提到】
: 请问到哪里去买金子呢?是不是买SPDR就可以了?
b*r
19 楼
就像美国总统和议员，从来不敢罢工
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 码工码农工贼多，你不干有人干
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 码工码农工贼多，你不干有人干
C*g
20 楼
没看懂这个法案啥意思啊？谁能解释一下？
d*d
21 楼
谢谢
【在 l*******t 的大作中提到】
: APMEX.com for physical gold.
: paper gold: GLD
【在 l*******t 的大作中提到】
: APMEX.com for physical gold.
: paper gold: GLD
j*i
22 楼
小资产阶级，就是不如咱工人阶级贫下中农革命意志坚定
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: 就像美国总统和议员，从来不敢罢工
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: 就像美国总统和议员，从来不敢罢工
C*e
23 楼
确定是的，USCIS说的非常明确，在针对comment的评论中，专门回答了这个问题：
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/18/2016-27540/retention-of
-eb-1-eb-2-and-eb-3-immigrant-workers-and-program-improvements-affecting-
high-skilled
Comment. One commenter suggested changes to the regulatory text concerning
the requirement that the Form I-140 petition be approved for 180 days or
more. Specifically, the commenter recommended amending the text to make
clear that the 180-day threshold would not apply in cases in which an
applicant has a pending Application to Register Permanent Residence or
Adjust Status (Form I-485) that may provide job portability under INA 204(j)
. The commenter stated that, as proposed, the regulation would create a “
double” waiting period in the portability context, requiring the foreign
national to wait 180 days from approval of the Form I-140 petition and an
additional 180 days from filing of the application of adjustment of status
in order to be able to move to a new position. The commenter believed this
outcome would be inconsistent with congressional intent under AC21.
Response. DHS thanks the commenter for identifying the potential for
confusion given the text of proposed § 205.1(a)(3)(iii)(C) and (D)
and DHS's stated goal to codify and expand upon its existing policy
implementing INA 204(j). DHS proposed to allow a Form I-140 petition to
remain valid for certain purposes if such a petition was withdrawn or the
petitioner's business terminated 180 days or more after the Form I-140
petition had been approved.
This provision was intended to build upon existing DHS policies that have
governed the validity of Form I-140 petitions in the event of withdrawal or
business termination before and after beneficiaries are eligible to change
jobs or employers under INA 204(j). DHS did not intend that its regulatory
proposal would modify the existing timeframe before an individual would
become eligible to port under INA 204(j); rather, this provision was
intended to protect those individuals who are not yet eligible for INA 204(j
) portability from the automatic revocation of the approval of a Form I-140
petition that had been approved for 180 days or more. Consistent with the
intent of AC21 and DHS policy, DHS is revising the regulatory language at 8
CFR 205.1(a)(3)(iii)(C) and (D) to make clear that an approved Form I-140
petition involving withdrawal or business termination occurring 180 days or
more after either petition approval or the filing of an associated
application for adjustment of status remains approved, unless its approval
is revoked on other grounds. See final 8 CFR 205.1(a)(3)(iii).
【在 s******u 的大作中提到】
: 真是从140批准日算吗，请楼主把原文段落贴一下
:
:
: REALLY? or 485 RD?
:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/18/2016-27540/retention-of
-eb-1-eb-2-and-eb-3-immigrant-workers-and-program-improvements-affecting-
high-skilled
Comment. One commenter suggested changes to the regulatory text concerning
the requirement that the Form I-140 petition be approved for 180 days or
more. Specifically, the commenter recommended amending the text to make
clear that the 180-day threshold would not apply in cases in which an
applicant has a pending Application to Register Permanent Residence or
Adjust Status (Form I-485) that may provide job portability under INA 204(j)
. The commenter stated that, as proposed, the regulation would create a “
double” waiting period in the portability context, requiring the foreign
national to wait 180 days from approval of the Form I-140 petition and an
additional 180 days from filing of the application of adjustment of status
in order to be able to move to a new position. The commenter believed this
outcome would be inconsistent with congressional intent under AC21.
Response. DHS thanks the commenter for identifying the potential for
confusion given the text of proposed § 205.1(a)(3)(iii)(C) and (D)
and DHS's stated goal to codify and expand upon its existing policy
implementing INA 204(j). DHS proposed to allow a Form I-140 petition to
remain valid for certain purposes if such a petition was withdrawn or the
petitioner's business terminated 180 days or more after the Form I-140
petition had been approved.
This provision was intended to build upon existing DHS policies that have
governed the validity of Form I-140 petitions in the event of withdrawal or
business termination before and after beneficiaries are eligible to change
jobs or employers under INA 204(j). DHS did not intend that its regulatory
proposal would modify the existing timeframe before an individual would
become eligible to port under INA 204(j); rather, this provision was
intended to protect those individuals who are not yet eligible for INA 204(j
) portability from the automatic revocation of the approval of a Form I-140
petition that had been approved for 180 days or more. Consistent with the
intent of AC21 and DHS policy, DHS is revising the regulatory language at 8
CFR 205.1(a)(3)(iii)(C) and (D) to make clear that an approved Form I-140
petition involving withdrawal or business termination occurring 180 days or
more after either petition approval or the filing of an associated
application for adjustment of status remains approved, unless its approval
is revoked on other grounds. See final 8 CFR 205.1(a)(3)(iii).
【在 s******u 的大作中提到】
: 真是从140批准日算吗，请楼主把原文段落贴一下
:
:
: REALLY? or 485 RD?
:
r*n
24 楼
很有道理。
可是现在只是经济在做点小动荡（相比较大的战争）。人们完全可以找到更好的投资的
工具。金子没有很大的使用价值。主要用来报纸。可是我觉得现在价格已经很泡沫化了
。不要等到经济恢复，只要大部分人觉得经济到底。 金子就会开始狂跌。长期来看金
子不如投资石油／努业／机械耐用品等实实在在有用的行业。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 金子的用处是储存价值但没有利息，好处是不会被增发不会default。
: 纸币用于流通。
: bond是另一个很好的储存器，有利息但会被增发和default。
可是现在只是经济在做点小动荡（相比较大的战争）。人们完全可以找到更好的投资的
工具。金子没有很大的使用价值。主要用来报纸。可是我觉得现在价格已经很泡沫化了
。不要等到经济恢复，只要大部分人觉得经济到底。 金子就会开始狂跌。长期来看金
子不如投资石油／努业／机械耐用品等实实在在有用的行业。
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 金子的用处是储存价值但没有利息，好处是不会被增发不会default。
: 纸币用于流通。
: bond是另一个很好的储存器，有利息但会被增发和default。
z*a
25 楼
大牛说说如何打倒工贼？呼唤刘少奇这种工运高手
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 码工码农工贼多，你不干有人干
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 码工码农工贼多，你不干有人干
h*o
26 楼
这是说140保留吧 没说485不影响呀。。如果换个工作 还是重新交485？
of
j)
【在 C********e 的大作中提到】
: 确定是的，USCIS说的非常明确，在针对comment的评论中，专门回答了这个问题：
: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/18/2016-27540/retention-of
: -eb-1-eb-2-and-eb-3-immigrant-workers-and-program-improvements-affecting-
: high-skilled
: Comment. One commenter suggested changes to the regulatory text concerning
: the requirement that the Form I-140 petition be approved for 180 days or
: more. Specifically, the commenter recommended amending the text to make
: clear that the 180-day threshold would not apply in cases in which an
: applicant has a pending Application to Register Permanent Residence or
: Adjust Status (Form I-485) that may provide job portability under INA 204(j)
of
j)
【在 C********e 的大作中提到】
: 确定是的，USCIS说的非常明确，在针对comment的评论中，专门回答了这个问题：
: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/18/2016-27540/retention-of
: -eb-1-eb-2-and-eb-3-immigrant-workers-and-program-improvements-affecting-
: high-skilled
: Comment. One commenter suggested changes to the regulatory text concerning
: the requirement that the Form I-140 petition be approved for 180 days or
: more. Specifically, the commenter recommended amending the text to make
: clear that the 180-day threshold would not apply in cases in which an
: applicant has a pending Application to Register Permanent Residence or
: Adjust Status (Form I-485) that may provide job portability under INA 204(j)
w*l
27 楼
楼主觉得什么时候金子可以反弹了？
j*i
28 楼
老刘自己就是中国乃至全世界最大的工贼
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: 大牛说说如何打倒工贼？呼唤刘少奇这种工运高手
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: 大牛说说如何打倒工贼？呼唤刘少奇这种工运高手
C*e
29 楼
不需要重交485
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 这是说140保留吧 没说485不影响呀。。如果换个工作 还是重新交485？
:
: of
: j)
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 这是说140保留吧 没说485不影响呀。。如果换个工作 还是重新交485？
:
: of
: j)
T*e
30 楼
不好说，但1500我会买点。
【在 w**********l 的大作中提到】
: 楼主觉得什么时候金子可以反弹了？
b*r
31 楼
真正的有职业道德的工人阶级贫下中农也不会罢工，
罢工的就是和政府沆瀣一气的流氓，没有政府撑腰，谁也不敢罢工。
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 小资产阶级，就是不如咱工人阶级贫下中农革命意志坚定
罢工的就是和政府沆瀣一气的流氓，没有政府撑腰，谁也不敢罢工。
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 小资产阶级，就是不如咱工人阶级贫下中农革命意志坚定
C*e
32 楼
这里说的很清楚：
Comment：
Some commenters requested that beneficiaries of approved Form I-140
petitions who are not yet eligible for 204(j) portability be permitted to
change jobs and adjust status to lawful permanent residence without the
requirement of obtaining a new application for labor certification and a new
approved Form I-140 petition. Some who advocated for this change noted that
the ability to reuse or “port” an approved Form I-140 petition should be
available after the initial petition has been approved for 180 days or more,
and others requested that portability be allowed immediately after the
petition's approval. Similar to job portability under INA 204(j) in certain
regards, these and other commenters suggested that beneficiaries of approved
Form I-140 petitions should be allowed to change jobs, file a Form I-485
application and adjust status to lawful permanent residence on the basis of
the original Form I-140 petition as long as the new job is in the same or a
similar occupation as the job described in the approved Form I-140 petition.
Some commenters stated that there is an increase in time and monetary costs
associated with multiple labor certification filings. Most of the
commenters agreed that very few benefits were provided by requiring a new
labor certification. Commenters also expressed that “recertification”
additionally deters employers from sponsoring current foreign worker
employees who are beneficiaries of Form I-140 petitions based on new jobs.
One commenter urged DHS to allow a withdrawn or revoked Form I-140 petition
to remain valid for the purposes of obtaining an immigrant visa, in order to
fully implement Congress's intent in passing AC21.
Response:
A foreign worker may obtain an employment-based immigrant visa only if he or
she is the beneficiary of an approved employment-based immigrant visa
petition. See INA 204(b), 8 U.S.C. 1154(b). In this final rule, DHS is
allowing certain approved Form I-140 petitions to remain approved for
various purposes despite withdrawal or business termination. However, such a
petition may not be used to obtain lawful permanent residence, unless it
meets the requirements of INA 204(j).
With respect to obtaining lawful permanent residence under the EB-2 and EB-3
classifications, the INA requires that the worker be the beneficiary of a
valid Form I-140 petition, which generally must be supported by a valid
labor certification at the time of adjustment of status. See INA 203(b)(2),
(3); 204(a)(1)(F); and 212(a)(5)(A) and (D), 8 U.S.C. 1153(b)(2), Start
Printed Page 82418(3); 1154(a)(1)(F); 1182(a)(5)(A) and (D). Outside of the
204(j) context, an approved Form I-140 petition filed by an employer that no
longer intends to employ the worker upon approval of the Form I-485
application, whether presently or at any time in the future, does not
represent a bona fide job offer and, therefore, is not sufficient to support
an application for adjustment of status.
INA section 212(a)(5)(A) and (D) generally prohibits any foreign worker
seeking to perform skilled or unskilled labor from being admitted to the
United States under the EB-2 and EB-3 immigrant visa classifications unless
the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified that there are not
sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified, and available to
perform that work at the location the foreign worker will perform the work
and that the employment of that foreign worker will not adversely affect the
wages and working conditions of similarly situated U.S. workers. Under
current DOL regulations, a permanent labor certification remains valid only
for the particular job opportunity, for the individual named on the labor
certification, and for the area of intended employment stated on the
application for permanent labor certification. See 20 CFR 656.30(c)(2).
However, section 106(c)(2) of AC21 created an exception to this
admissibility requirement, by allowing an approved Form I-140 petition
supported by the associated labor certification to remain valid for certain
long-delayed adjustment applicants “with respect to a new job accepted by
the individual after the individual changes jobs or employers if the new job
is in the same or a similar occupational classification as the job for
which the certification was issued.” INA 212(a)(5)(A)(iv), 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)
(5)(A)(iv). DHS does not have authority to regulate the terms and
requirements of these labor certifications and therefore cannot prescribe
what is necessary for the labor certification to remain valid even for long-
delayed applicants for adjustment of status, although DHS does have
authority to invalidate labor certifications for fraud or willful
misrepresentation. The INA designates DOL as the federal department
responsible for making permanent labor certification determinations.
While DHS cannot expand portability beyond the INA 204(j) context, the final
rule does provide some additional flexibility and stability for individuals
who may not be eligible for INA 204(j) portability, by allowing
beneficiaries of approved Form I-140 petitions to retain their priority
dates in certain situations and allowing certain Form I-140 petitions to
remain valid, including for purposes of section 204(j) portability,
notwithstanding withdrawal of the petition or termination of the petitioner'
s business, as described above.[26]
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 这是说140保留吧 没说485不影响呀。。如果换个工作 还是重新交485？
:
: of
: j)
Comment：
Some commenters requested that beneficiaries of approved Form I-140
petitions who are not yet eligible for 204(j) portability be permitted to
change jobs and adjust status to lawful permanent residence without the
requirement of obtaining a new application for labor certification and a new
approved Form I-140 petition. Some who advocated for this change noted that
the ability to reuse or “port” an approved Form I-140 petition should be
available after the initial petition has been approved for 180 days or more,
and others requested that portability be allowed immediately after the
petition's approval. Similar to job portability under INA 204(j) in certain
regards, these and other commenters suggested that beneficiaries of approved
Form I-140 petitions should be allowed to change jobs, file a Form I-485
application and adjust status to lawful permanent residence on the basis of
the original Form I-140 petition as long as the new job is in the same or a
similar occupation as the job described in the approved Form I-140 petition.
Some commenters stated that there is an increase in time and monetary costs
associated with multiple labor certification filings. Most of the
commenters agreed that very few benefits were provided by requiring a new
labor certification. Commenters also expressed that “recertification”
additionally deters employers from sponsoring current foreign worker
employees who are beneficiaries of Form I-140 petitions based on new jobs.
One commenter urged DHS to allow a withdrawn or revoked Form I-140 petition
to remain valid for the purposes of obtaining an immigrant visa, in order to
fully implement Congress's intent in passing AC21.
Response:
A foreign worker may obtain an employment-based immigrant visa only if he or
she is the beneficiary of an approved employment-based immigrant visa
petition. See INA 204(b), 8 U.S.C. 1154(b). In this final rule, DHS is
allowing certain approved Form I-140 petitions to remain approved for
various purposes despite withdrawal or business termination. However, such a
petition may not be used to obtain lawful permanent residence, unless it
meets the requirements of INA 204(j).
With respect to obtaining lawful permanent residence under the EB-2 and EB-3
classifications, the INA requires that the worker be the beneficiary of a
valid Form I-140 petition, which generally must be supported by a valid
labor certification at the time of adjustment of status. See INA 203(b)(2),
(3); 204(a)(1)(F); and 212(a)(5)(A) and (D), 8 U.S.C. 1153(b)(2), Start
Printed Page 82418(3); 1154(a)(1)(F); 1182(a)(5)(A) and (D). Outside of the
204(j) context, an approved Form I-140 petition filed by an employer that no
longer intends to employ the worker upon approval of the Form I-485
application, whether presently or at any time in the future, does not
represent a bona fide job offer and, therefore, is not sufficient to support
an application for adjustment of status.
INA section 212(a)(5)(A) and (D) generally prohibits any foreign worker
seeking to perform skilled or unskilled labor from being admitted to the
United States under the EB-2 and EB-3 immigrant visa classifications unless
the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified that there are not
sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified, and available to
perform that work at the location the foreign worker will perform the work
and that the employment of that foreign worker will not adversely affect the
wages and working conditions of similarly situated U.S. workers. Under
current DOL regulations, a permanent labor certification remains valid only
for the particular job opportunity, for the individual named on the labor
certification, and for the area of intended employment stated on the
application for permanent labor certification. See 20 CFR 656.30(c)(2).
However, section 106(c)(2) of AC21 created an exception to this
admissibility requirement, by allowing an approved Form I-140 petition
supported by the associated labor certification to remain valid for certain
long-delayed adjustment applicants “with respect to a new job accepted by
the individual after the individual changes jobs or employers if the new job
is in the same or a similar occupational classification as the job for
which the certification was issued.” INA 212(a)(5)(A)(iv), 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)
(5)(A)(iv). DHS does not have authority to regulate the terms and
requirements of these labor certifications and therefore cannot prescribe
what is necessary for the labor certification to remain valid even for long-
delayed applicants for adjustment of status, although DHS does have
authority to invalidate labor certifications for fraud or willful
misrepresentation. The INA designates DOL as the federal department
responsible for making permanent labor certification determinations.
While DHS cannot expand portability beyond the INA 204(j) context, the final
rule does provide some additional flexibility and stability for individuals
who may not be eligible for INA 204(j) portability, by allowing
beneficiaries of approved Form I-140 petitions to retain their priority
dates in certain situations and allowing certain Form I-140 petitions to
remain valid, including for purposes of section 204(j) portability,
notwithstanding withdrawal of the petition or termination of the petitioner'
s business, as described above.[26]
【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 这是说140保留吧 没说485不影响呀。。如果换个工作 还是重新交485？
:
: of
: j)
f*p
33 楼
银子的STOCK代号呢？
j*i
34 楼
同志，你变修了
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: 真正的有职业道德的工人阶级贫下中农也不会罢工，
: 罢工的就是和政府沆瀣一气的流氓，没有政府撑腰，谁也不敢罢工。
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: 真正的有职业道德的工人阶级贫下中农也不会罢工，
: 罢工的就是和政府沆瀣一气的流氓，没有政府撑腰，谁也不敢罢工。
h*8
35 楼
You can loan gold to somebody and collect interests, too.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理。
: 可是现在只是经济在做点小动荡（相比较大的战争）。人们完全可以找到更好的投资的
: 工具。金子没有很大的使用价值。主要用来报纸。可是我觉得现在价格已经很泡沫化了
: 。不要等到经济恢复，只要大部分人觉得经济到底。 金子就会开始狂跌。长期来看金
: 子不如投资石油／努业／机械耐用品等实实在在有用的行业。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理。
: 可是现在只是经济在做点小动荡（相比较大的战争）。人们完全可以找到更好的投资的
: 工具。金子没有很大的使用价值。主要用来报纸。可是我觉得现在价格已经很泡沫化了
: 。不要等到经济恢复，只要大部分人觉得经济到底。 金子就会开始狂跌。长期来看金
: 子不如投资石油／努业／机械耐用品等实实在在有用的行业。
z*a
36 楼
“沆瀣”不认识的说
怎么念？
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: 真正的有职业道德的工人阶级贫下中农也不会罢工，
: 罢工的就是和政府沆瀣一气的流氓，没有政府撑腰，谁也不敢罢工。
怎么念？
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: 真正的有职业道德的工人阶级贫下中农也不会罢工，
: 罢工的就是和政府沆瀣一气的流氓，没有政府撑腰，谁也不敢罢工。
N*n
37 楼
It's the same old government manipulation like that of 2008. Back then
they front-raid gold & silver before AIG, Lehman and so on blew up. I
don't know what they front-raid for now but it's probably sth as ugly.
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 参考2008 liquidity crunch，gold跌了大概1/4，silver从20跌倒9 是50%-60%。
: 这次gold可能跌到1400-1500，silver跌倒20-25.
j*i
38 楼
航谢？
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: “沆瀣”不认识的说
: 怎么念？
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: “沆瀣”不认识的说
: 怎么念？
b*r
39 楼
谁和你同志？
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 同志，你变修了
【在 j****i 的大作中提到】
: 同志，你变修了
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