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s*p
2
post rock

【在 h***i 的大作中提到】
: What's next?
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t*t
3
post rock is really cool. I recommend Explosion in the Sky.

【在 s***p 的大作中提到】
: post rock
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st
4
eh, Iam too old for cool stuff, I listen to music occasionally just for fun

【在 t********t 的大作中提到】
: post rock is really cool. I recommend Explosion in the Sky.
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s*n
5
darkwave? :)
呵呵,我也不知道到底rock'n roll是怎么分类的,就直接把自己喜欢
的音乐都叫做摇滚了;) 但是厌倦摇滚乐??恐怕把我吊在树上打三天
也不可能让我厌倦。最近因为放假,又可以光明正大听很多音乐了。想
不到今年放假听得旧音乐比新音乐还多。先是一大群人在某天的party
你歌我唱,哦,不我没有唱,主要是听别人唱了,从会弹吉他的人唱他
自己写得歌到大家合唱崔健,时间简直过去的比什么都快。后来烧了两
张崔健的CD在路上听,一路从三番听到l.a. 从l.a.听到las vegas,从
vegas听到death valley,要跑那么远的路听崔健比坐在家里听感觉深得
多,以前只觉得崔健得歌很好,那一路上天光明明灭灭,从都市到荒漠,
突然觉得崔健早就把我们的青春唱完了。特别是[时代的晚上],我们所
度过的每一个晚上,无论是在何时何处,都可以用这一首歌来代替。后来
我们自己听还觉得不过瘾,在vegas的stripe闹市区堵车的时侯把音量开
到最大吵路人,vegas路上的黑人很少,不然也许会有黑人听出来他后期
音乐中的hiphop味道过来和我们打招呼的;)
不只是崔健,想起

【在 h***i 的大作中提到】
: What's next?
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R*e
6
是啊,我现在只在开车和上网的时候听听音乐。一天不听也很正常。过去能什么都不做专
心听音乐的日子早一去不返了。至于到处找乐评读了解最新动向或者研究点音乐元素分类
组合什么的更是不可能的了。

I
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h*i
7
不听歌,我的心也在跳。
我没有足够的愤怒去rock and roll那,也许那天有机会成为农民起义的一分子,抛洒点
忿忿的热血,才算摇才算滚巴
我也喜欢一边开车乱逛一边听歌。现在品味差极了,只要是分贝超过一个极限的都可以接
受。只要是噪音,就可以用来做我坟头上的土。

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: darkwave? :)
: 呵呵,我也不知道到底rock'n roll是怎么分类的,就直接把自己喜欢
: 的音乐都叫做摇滚了;) 但是厌倦摇滚乐??恐怕把我吊在树上打三天
: 也不可能让我厌倦。最近因为放假,又可以光明正大听很多音乐了。想
: 不到今年放假听得旧音乐比新音乐还多。先是一大群人在某天的party
: 你歌我唱,哦,不我没有唱,主要是听别人唱了,从会弹吉他的人唱他
: 自己写得歌到大家合唱崔健,时间简直过去的比什么都快。后来烧了两
: 张崔健的CD在路上听,一路从三番听到l.a. 从l.a.听到las vegas,从
: vegas听到death valley,要跑那么远的路听崔健比坐在家里听感觉深得
: 多,以前只觉得崔健得歌很好,那一路上天光明明灭灭,从都市到荒漠,

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h*i
8
what's next after post doc?

【在 s***p 的大作中提到】
: post rock
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s*n
9
嗯,和你正相反,我早知道自己不会愤怒,也不会轻易流血。
才需要点东西支持卑微的生活;)




【在 h***i 的大作中提到】
: 不听歌,我的心也在跳。
: 我没有足够的愤怒去rock and roll那,也许那天有机会成为农民起义的一分子,抛洒点
: 忿忿的热血,才算摇才算滚巴
: 我也喜欢一边开车乱逛一边听歌。现在品味差极了,只要是分贝超过一个极限的都可以接
: 受。只要是噪音,就可以用来做我坟头上的土。

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h*i
10
哈哈,原来我们都是懦弱分子




【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,和你正相反,我早知道自己不会愤怒,也不会轻易流血。
: 才需要点东西支持卑微的生活;)
:
: 点
: 接

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R*E
11
所以世界总是属于八九点钟的太阳的,不属于你们这些西边的太阳:p
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g*a
12
good post, thanks for sharing

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: darkwave? :)
: 呵呵,我也不知道到底rock'n roll是怎么分类的,就直接把自己喜欢
: 的音乐都叫做摇滚了;) 但是厌倦摇滚乐??恐怕把我吊在树上打三天
: 也不可能让我厌倦。最近因为放假,又可以光明正大听很多音乐了。想
: 不到今年放假听得旧音乐比新音乐还多。先是一大群人在某天的party
: 你歌我唱,哦,不我没有唱,主要是听别人唱了,从会弹吉他的人唱他
: 自己写得歌到大家合唱崔健,时间简直过去的比什么都快。后来烧了两
: 张崔健的CD在路上听,一路从三番听到l.a. 从l.a.听到las vegas,从
: vegas听到death valley,要跑那么远的路听崔健比坐在家里听感觉深得
: 多,以前只觉得崔健得歌很好,那一路上天光明明灭灭,从都市到荒漠,

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g*a
13
i don't even drive anymore, but i listen at work all day
for all these years i haven't remembered a whole song yet.
when i was in china we can sing every songs from CJ, heibao,
tangchao and many others...i've lost the concentration, or
care. i feel kinda bad.
as i'm getting older, i listen less and less new stuff. they
don't have a taste or i don't have a taste, hehe
songs i listen to are at least 10 years old. i like what seven
said, "night of time" from CJ is almost made for every night.
his s

【在 R****e 的大作中提到】
: 是啊,我现在只在开车和上网的时候听听音乐。一天不听也很正常。过去能什么都不做专
: 心听音乐的日子早一去不返了。至于到处找乐评读了解最新动向或者研究点音乐元素分类
: 组合什么的更是不可能的了。
:
: I

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c*e
14
我也是,现在听歌别说不会唱。连歌名都叫不上来。

【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: i don't even drive anymore, but i listen at work all day
: for all these years i haven't remembered a whole song yet.
: when i was in china we can sing every songs from CJ, heibao,
: tangchao and many others...i've lost the concentration, or
: care. i feel kinda bad.
: as i'm getting older, i listen less and less new stuff. they
: don't have a taste or i don't have a taste, hehe
: songs i listen to are at least 10 years old. i like what seven
: said, "night of time" from CJ is almost made for every night.
: his s

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g*a
15
oh, and what's the link to the baord you are talking about?
also, that post about MZM you recommended is great
http://www.blogcn.com/blog/?u=xuaner&id=495668
send my respect to the author if u get a chance

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: darkwave? :)
: 呵呵,我也不知道到底rock'n roll是怎么分类的,就直接把自己喜欢
: 的音乐都叫做摇滚了;) 但是厌倦摇滚乐??恐怕把我吊在树上打三天
: 也不可能让我厌倦。最近因为放假,又可以光明正大听很多音乐了。想
: 不到今年放假听得旧音乐比新音乐还多。先是一大群人在某天的party
: 你歌我唱,哦,不我没有唱,主要是听别人唱了,从会弹吉他的人唱他
: 自己写得歌到大家合唱崔健,时间简直过去的比什么都快。后来烧了两
: 张崔健的CD在路上听,一路从三番听到l.a. 从l.a.听到las vegas,从
: vegas听到death valley,要跑那么远的路听崔健比坐在家里听感觉深得
: 多,以前只觉得崔健得歌很好,那一路上天光明明灭灭,从都市到荒漠,

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s*n
16
这里可以讨论包含“下载”关键字的内容么?
这个黑暗放逐在http://www.dzbbs.com/bbs/
我所说的两个很棒的帖子都在那里的“音乐下载区”版
置顶。如果还找不到就请在这里给我发msg吧。
谢谢你看了那片关于木子美的文章。其实我不认识作者,
(当然也不认识介绍prog rock和indie音乐的那两位朋友)
真是不好意思;)

【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: oh, and what's the link to the baord you are talking about?
: also, that post about MZM you recommended is great
: http://www.blogcn.com/blog/?u=xuaner&id=495668
: send my respect to the author if u get a chance

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t*t
17
黑放偏重darkwave and avant garde.
还有沉默的蟋蟀,那个也很好,偏重neofolk, post rock
豁达乱拜,偏重indie, trip hop

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: 这里可以讨论包含“下载”关键字的内容么?
: 这个黑暗放逐在http://www.dzbbs.com/bbs/
: 我所说的两个很棒的帖子都在那里的“音乐下载区”版
: 置顶。如果还找不到就请在这里给我发msg吧。
: 谢谢你看了那片关于木子美的文章。其实我不认识作者,
: (当然也不认识介绍prog rock和indie音乐的那两位朋友)
: 真是不好意思;)

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g*a
18
i'll take a look
i'm not into any of these genres, classic rock is
all i listen to. new stuff just doesn't have the soul.
but i like your taste in writing, so i'll check them out.

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: 这里可以讨论包含“下载”关键字的内容么?
: 这个黑暗放逐在http://www.dzbbs.com/bbs/
: 我所说的两个很棒的帖子都在那里的“音乐下载区”版
: 置顶。如果还找不到就请在这里给我发msg吧。
: 谢谢你看了那片关于木子美的文章。其实我不认识作者,
: (当然也不认识介绍prog rock和indie音乐的那两位朋友)
: 真是不好意思;)

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s*n
19
呵呵,如果喜欢classic rock那可能基本上不用到那个论坛
去了。那里的年轻人思想沉重得要命;)
说起classic rock,虽然我没有正经听过多少,不过湾区有
个很好的classic rock电台叫做KFox, FM98.5,好像这个电
台有几首歌是每天必须要放一遍的,一首night in white satin,
一首吉他低泣时,还有the beatles的所有歌(虽然the beatles
仿佛不能算是classic rock吧?)有时候塞车的时侯听到这些
歌,真想打个电话跟主持人交流一下,能年复一年地喜欢这些
歌也是件很不容易的事,我总猜想那个电台主持人一定有很多
关于这些歌的话要说,可惜都被广告淹没了;但是也可能他并
没有什么评论,只是这些音乐已经成为他的一部份,听了这么
多年了,能说的话已经都说完,但是还忍不住一遍又一遍放出
来-做电台主持人真是不错。
他们现在开始放david bowie了,因为他要开演唱会了吧?昨天
正好听完Ziggy Stardust的CD,换了电台又是他的Five years,
这首歌听上去太凄厉了,不然肯定也是KFox每日必放曲目之一,


【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: i'll take a look
: i'm not into any of these genres, classic rock is
: all i listen to. new stuff just doesn't have the soul.
: but i like your taste in writing, so i'll check them out.

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z*r
20
说的老气横生的,喝喝

【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: i'll take a look
: i'm not into any of these genres, classic rock is
: all i listen to. new stuff just doesn't have the soul.
: but i like your taste in writing, so i'll check them out.

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D*N
21
我们这里咖啡店里二十出头的小男孩儿,喜欢对着我车后面
的Radiohead贴纸摇头,说classic rock如何如何,然后换上
一盘Led Zeppelin的经典之作,那些歌总是在他们那里听最
让人迷醉,尤其是到歌手放高声音大叫Baby, baby, baby,
baby的时候,我因为车上天线坏了很久不能听FM, 只好每次
跑到咖啡店和CD店里面听别人的推荐,不过有人推荐的东西,
一如书和餐馆,总让人觉得特别放心。。:)

【在 s***n 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,如果喜欢classic rock那可能基本上不用到那个论坛
: 去了。那里的年轻人思想沉重得要命;)
: 说起classic rock,虽然我没有正经听过多少,不过湾区有
: 个很好的classic rock电台叫做KFox, FM98.5,好像这个电
: 台有几首歌是每天必须要放一遍的,一首night in white satin,
: 一首吉他低泣时,还有the beatles的所有歌(虽然the beatles
: 仿佛不能算是classic rock吧?)有时候塞车的时侯听到这些
: 歌,真想打个电话跟主持人交流一下,能年复一年地喜欢这些
: 歌也是件很不容易的事,我总猜想那个电台主持人一定有很多
: 关于这些歌的话要说,可惜都被广告淹没了;但是也可能他并

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B*R
22
20几岁的不听这些CLASSIC ROCK吧,ZEPPLIN感觉都是上了岁数听。虽然他们的歌
广为流传

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: 我们这里咖啡店里二十出头的小男孩儿,喜欢对着我车后面
: 的Radiohead贴纸摇头,说classic rock如何如何,然后换上
: 一盘Led Zeppelin的经典之作,那些歌总是在他们那里听最
: 让人迷醉,尤其是到歌手放高声音大叫Baby, baby, baby,
: baby的时候,我因为车上天线坏了很久不能听FM, 只好每次
: 跑到咖啡店和CD店里面听别人的推荐,不过有人推荐的东西,
: 一如书和餐馆,总让人觉得特别放心。。:)

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D*N
23
嘿嘿,我二十几岁的时候也是听六七十年代的音乐啊。。:)

【在 B*****R 的大作中提到】
: 20几岁的不听这些CLASSIC ROCK吧,ZEPPLIN感觉都是上了岁数听。虽然他们的歌
: 广为流传

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B*R
24
我也是。但咱们不是外国人么。现在20几岁的我觉得都是听TECH或者LINKIN PARK那样的

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: 嘿嘿,我二十几岁的时候也是听六七十年代的音乐啊。。:)
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D*N
25
ft.. 他们才是外国人呢,我认识的二十几岁的美国人是
听Paul Simon, Jeff Buckley, Leonard Cohen,和They
Might be Giants的,这些朴素的小孩子们对alternative
音乐嗤之以鼻,甚中我意。:)

【在 B*****R 的大作中提到】
: 我也是。但咱们不是外国人么。现在20几岁的我觉得都是听TECH或者LINKIN PARK那样的
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m*h
26
hehe...it is funny how sub culture have its own
main stream and rebels. Somehow people are always
angry at certain kind of music like it offends
them or something. :)
I'd rather be a ignoramus than a bigot.

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: ft.. 他们才是外国人呢,我认识的二十几岁的美国人是
: 听Paul Simon, Jeff Buckley, Leonard Cohen,和They
: Might be Giants的,这些朴素的小孩子们对alternative
: 音乐嗤之以鼻,甚中我意。:)

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D*N
27
hehe, what I meant was that these young people are the
mainstream for their generation, the mainstream is getting
more relaxed and tolerant if anything, people are not
classified by any particular kind of music they listen to,
and losing touch with the coolest and lastest music does
not make you a dork. The bigotry is mine, for identifying
alternative music with the commercialized-coolness. :)

那样的

【在 m**h 的大作中提到】
: hehe...it is funny how sub culture have its own
: main stream and rebels. Somehow people are always
: angry at certain kind of music like it offends
: them or something. :)
: I'd rather be a ignoramus than a bigot.

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g*a
28
hm...i don't know if you can say the 20's kids you met are
mainstream. almost all american kids have been exposed to
classic rock long enough to know a thing or two. like every
chinese kid can sing a song from the 80's HK or TW pops.
MTV is alive today not because it's playing old school but
it's hiphop dominated. and that's still the trend. otherwise
you think all these media are so blind that they don't realize
classic rock is what the 20s listen to today? i doubt it.
they know led zep like we

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: hehe, what I meant was that these young people are the
: mainstream for their generation, the mainstream is getting
: more relaxed and tolerant if anything, people are not
: classified by any particular kind of music they listen to,
: and losing touch with the coolest and lastest music does
: not make you a dork. The bigotry is mine, for identifying
: alternative music with the commercialized-coolness. :)
:
: 那样的

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D*N
29
I know, my theory is that no matter how avant garde or
old-fashioned you think your taste is, you're probably
still just a mainstream audience. :)

【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: hm...i don't know if you can say the 20's kids you met are
: mainstream. almost all american kids have been exposed to
: classic rock long enough to know a thing or two. like every
: chinese kid can sing a song from the 80's HK or TW pops.
: MTV is alive today not because it's playing old school but
: it's hiphop dominated. and that's still the trend. otherwise
: you think all these media are so blind that they don't realize
: classic rock is what the 20s listen to today? i doubt it.
: they know led zep like we

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m*h
30
I tend to agree.
As far as main stream goes, different geographical areas
seemed to have influence on what is considered cool,
even for unconventional music.
For example, bay area has this huge hippie culture
from Berleley and San Francisco was full of clubs
blasting MoWax cuts. In Philadelphia, John Dilabertto
and Echoes made ambient very popular.

【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
: hm...i don't know if you can say the 20's kids you met are
: mainstream. almost all american kids have been exposed to
: classic rock long enough to know a thing or two. like every
: chinese kid can sing a song from the 80's HK or TW pops.
: MTV is alive today not because it's playing old school but
: it's hiphop dominated. and that's still the trend. otherwise
: you think all these media are so blind that they don't realize
: classic rock is what the 20s listen to today? i doubt it.
: they know led zep like we

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g*a
31
hell i don't know any the name you listed, hehe
but region definitely play a big role in music
i've always lived in dixie land, i can tell you every
song willie nelson had, hehe, but MoWax who??

【在 m**h 的大作中提到】
: I tend to agree.
: As far as main stream goes, different geographical areas
: seemed to have influence on what is considered cool,
: even for unconventional music.
: For example, bay area has this huge hippie culture
: from Berleley and San Francisco was full of clubs
: blasting MoWax cuts. In Philadelphia, John Dilabertto
: and Echoes made ambient very popular.

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B*R
32
really lost by you guys. what is the alternative music you are talking about?
different people listen to different music. we can't group them by music but
certainly the music they
listen to can tell a lot.
about my 我们是外国人 comment, I was trying to say is we started to listen to
those music since we were in China, where and when we were exposed to a lot of
classic stuff other than those were most current or on the charts.
anyway, I don't believe the current majority of 20 sth Americans are listeni

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: hehe, what I meant was that these young people are the
: mainstream for their generation, the mainstream is getting
: more relaxed and tolerant if anything, people are not
: classified by any particular kind of music they listen to,
: and losing touch with the coolest and lastest music does
: not make you a dork. The bigotry is mine, for identifying
: alternative music with the commercialized-coolness. :)
:
: 那样的

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B*R
33
mainstream or alternative, really irrelavent. America is too big and people
are too many, hard to
tell who is mainstream. some people want to be mainstream while they are the
minority, some others
want to be counter-mainstream but actually they are in fact the majority.
so, we all have our samplings of who are listen to what, but hard to conclude
anything from them.
Even in the 70s, Led Zepplin already became the annoying mainstream for some
people, that's why and when Punk came out. (disco was

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: I know, my theory is that no matter how avant garde or
: old-fashioned you think your taste is, you're probably
: still just a mainstream audience. :)

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B*R
34
and in the south, still a lot of people stick on country music
the true beauty is just like that, no real "mainstream". stuff on the
billboard is another issue, labels are alwasy trying to frame sth they like to
sell as mainstream

【在 m**h 的大作中提到】
: I tend to agree.
: As far as main stream goes, different geographical areas
: seemed to have influence on what is considered cool,
: even for unconventional music.
: For example, bay area has this huge hippie culture
: from Berleley and San Francisco was full of clubs
: blasting MoWax cuts. In Philadelphia, John Dilabertto
: and Echoes made ambient very popular.

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D*N
35
ah, 你不是说他们外国人不听Led Zepplin嘛,我就举了一些例子,
说明很难用taste判断年纪,其实我自己有五六年没看电视没听
广播啦,对现在流行什么的反应很迟钝。你们说的这些, LINKIN
PARK等等,我一耳朵都没听过,:) 你说得有点儿道理,我回头看
看自己这几年来喜欢的东西,觉得我的口味已经被钉死在我们的时
代上啦。对于先锋艺术也就只有瞪着眼睛看看热闹的份儿,欣赏就
谈不上了。:(

about?
to
of
listening

【在 B*****R 的大作中提到】
: really lost by you guys. what is the alternative music you are talking about?
: different people listen to different music. we can't group them by music but
: certainly the music they
: listen to can tell a lot.
: about my 我们是外国人 comment, I was trying to say is we started to listen to
: those music since we were in China, where and when we were exposed to a lot of
: classic stuff other than those were most current or on the charts.
: anyway, I don't believe the current majority of 20 sth Americans are listeni

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s*n
36
呵呵,关于主流与非主流,在读书版有一篇文章可以借鉴。
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发信人: bos (Bart), 信区: Reader
标 题: Re: THE DA VINCI CODE
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Wed Feb 18 18:19:31 2004), 转信
也不见得有多大名声。在美国,书和电影一样,都太多了,没人看得过来,所以市场严
重分化,形成各种niche market。各个圈子都有自己的名人,有时某个niche的名人在
另一个niche没人知道。一般,读Romantic小说的人不看Sci-Fi,看Mystic & murder的
人不看Techno-thriller。就一个SciFi就有若干sub-genre。
而且,美国的所谓主流市场其实远远不如所谓的genre market。所谓名声大也没有几个
人读,特别是所谓的主流书籍。一帮精英捧出来的主流,远非真正主流。
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我来画蛇添足一下,这个听什么和媒体关系很大。而且这种影响不是DoTaNN同学一个人不
看电视不听广播就能回避的 :

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: I know, my theory is that no matter how avant garde or
: old-fashioned you think your taste is, you're probably
: still just a mainstream audience. :)

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w*t
37
我还行,听收音机比较多,所以跟上了。

【在 D****N 的大作中提到】
: ah, 你不是说他们外国人不听Led Zepplin嘛,我就举了一些例子,
: 说明很难用taste判断年纪,其实我自己有五六年没看电视没听
: 广播啦,对现在流行什么的反应很迟钝。你们说的这些, LINKIN
: PARK等等,我一耳朵都没听过,:) 你说得有点儿道理,我回头看
: 看自己这几年来喜欢的东西,觉得我的口味已经被钉死在我们的时
: 代上啦。对于先锋艺术也就只有瞪着眼睛看看热闹的份儿,欣赏就
: 谈不上了。:(
:
: about?
: to

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