i*s
2 楼
嗯，转基因也可以organic是不？
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 给众多不明就里还进来瞎搅一通的ID们提个醒。
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 给众多不明就里还进来瞎搅一通的ID们提个醒。
s*a
3 楼
你知道啥叫“反意词”吗？
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，转基因也可以organic是不？
l*a
4 楼
Organic肯定不是转基因
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，转基因也可以organic是不？
【在 i******s 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，转基因也可以organic是不？
z*n
5 楼
from wikipedia:
Foods claiming to be organic must be free of artificial food additives, and
are often processed with fewer artificial methods, materials and conditions,
such as chemical ripening, food irradiation, and genetically modified ingre
dients.
It doesn't say OF has to be GMO-free.
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: Organic肯定不是转基因
Foods claiming to be organic must be free of artificial food additives, and
are often processed with fewer artificial methods, materials and conditions,
such as chemical ripening, food irradiation, and genetically modified ingre
dients.
It doesn't say OF has to be GMO-free.
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: Organic肯定不是转基因
a*o
6 楼
准备好纸巾擦眼泪。
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: Organic肯定不是转基因
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: Organic肯定不是转基因
l*a
7 楼
我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
no more investment money for research.
Until recently, I assumed GMO food could not be called “organic.” The U.S.
and Canada both prohibit 100% certified organic food from containing GMO
ingredients. However, contamination of the crops may cause organic feed to
contain some percentage of GMO ingredients. At the Straus Family Creamery in
California, for example, Farmer Straus spent nearly $10,000 tracing back
the ingredients in his organic supplies, to remove the GMO traces. Basically
, the problem is that GMO crops spew pollen into the air, as all crops do.
This pollen cross-breeds with organic feed, which pollutes and corrupts the
organic farms.
It is a normal practice for organic farmers to save their seed for the next
year. With GMO crops growing nearby, however, the organic crops become
infected with the GMO seed. When the farmer saves his seed, he is then
infringing on Monsanto Corporation’s patent. Monsanto issued policies about
patent infringement and their methods of enforcing patent law on these
seeds. In these policies, Monsanto takes the position that their patented
seed is desirable, and therefore the farmers who normally save their own
seed are taking something away from the company.
Organic farmers point out that they are no longer organic when their seed is
contaminated by genetically-engineered cross-pollination. They are the
victim, not the perpetrator. The Monsanto Corporation protests that it has
sued only 145 farmers for patent violation. Meanwhile, the Organic Consumers
Organization has organized a Millions Against Monsanto campaign to pressure
Congress to force foods to be labeled as GMO. This would allow consumers to
decide whether they will risk their health with GMO foods. The FDA does not
determine whether or not GMO is safe. It only determines whether evidence
has been provided to declare it unsafe. No evidence, no reason not to eat it.
Of course, whether GMO food is safe will not be determined until after
people have eaten it for 20 or more years. By that time, non-GMO seeds may
no longer be available on the planet, as the wind and the birds cross-
pollinate our fields. Although dramatic increases in the incidence of
allergies and immune system diseases have occurred over the last 20 years,
science have not been able to identify why this has happened.
and
conditions,
ingre
【在 z*****n 的大作中提到】
: from wikipedia:
: Foods claiming to be organic must be free of artificial food additives, and
: are often processed with fewer artificial methods, materials and conditions,
: such as chemical ripening, food irradiation, and genetically modified ingre
: dients.
: It doesn't say OF has to be GMO-free.
GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
no more investment money for research.
Until recently, I assumed GMO food could not be called “organic.” The U.S.
and Canada both prohibit 100% certified organic food from containing GMO
ingredients. However, contamination of the crops may cause organic feed to
contain some percentage of GMO ingredients. At the Straus Family Creamery in
California, for example, Farmer Straus spent nearly $10,000 tracing back
the ingredients in his organic supplies, to remove the GMO traces. Basically
, the problem is that GMO crops spew pollen into the air, as all crops do.
This pollen cross-breeds with organic feed, which pollutes and corrupts the
organic farms.
It is a normal practice for organic farmers to save their seed for the next
year. With GMO crops growing nearby, however, the organic crops become
infected with the GMO seed. When the farmer saves his seed, he is then
infringing on Monsanto Corporation’s patent. Monsanto issued policies about
patent infringement and their methods of enforcing patent law on these
seeds. In these policies, Monsanto takes the position that their patented
seed is desirable, and therefore the farmers who normally save their own
seed are taking something away from the company.
Organic farmers point out that they are no longer organic when their seed is
contaminated by genetically-engineered cross-pollination. They are the
victim, not the perpetrator. The Monsanto Corporation protests that it has
sued only 145 farmers for patent violation. Meanwhile, the Organic Consumers
Organization has organized a Millions Against Monsanto campaign to pressure
Congress to force foods to be labeled as GMO. This would allow consumers to
decide whether they will risk their health with GMO foods. The FDA does not
determine whether or not GMO is safe. It only determines whether evidence
has been provided to declare it unsafe. No evidence, no reason not to eat it.
Of course, whether GMO food is safe will not be determined until after
people have eaten it for 20 or more years. By that time, non-GMO seeds may
no longer be available on the planet, as the wind and the birds cross-
pollinate our fields. Although dramatic increases in the incidence of
allergies and immune system diseases have occurred over the last 20 years,
science have not been able to identify why this has happened.
and
conditions,
ingre
【在 z*****n 的大作中提到】
: from wikipedia:
: Foods claiming to be organic must be free of artificial food additives, and
: are often processed with fewer artificial methods, materials and conditions,
: such as chemical ripening, food irradiation, and genetically modified ingre
: dients.
: It doesn't say OF has to be GMO-free.
s*a
8 楼
转基因不能称为有机，不等于非有机就是转基因。
但很多人根本搞不清这一点。
resultant
frequently
cotton,
alfalfa
for
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
: GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
: scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
: organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
: done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
: and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
: to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
: patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
: seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
: no more investment money for research.
但很多人根本搞不清这一点。
resultant
frequently
cotton,
alfalfa
for
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
: GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
: scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
: organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
: done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
: and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
: to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
: patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
: seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
: no more investment money for research.
A*3
9 楼
作为一个专业曾经为为horticulture的人可以负责的说，organic的定义为：
任何含化学元素碳的生物都称之为organic，翻译为有机
转基因跟有机不是一个层面上的概念，没有什么可比较的。另外有机食品不一定就是所
谓的无污染健康食品。Professor当时给我解释的原因是市面上没有有机化肥，现有的
化肥都是经过加工而成的，所以种出来的食品也不可能是“有机”食品，Professor说
现在所谓的“健康食品”只是营销的一种策略，她们家全是生物学家，没有一个人会去
买“Organic Food”。
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 给众多不明就里还进来瞎搅一通的ID们提个醒。
任何含化学元素碳的生物都称之为organic，翻译为有机
转基因跟有机不是一个层面上的概念，没有什么可比较的。另外有机食品不一定就是所
谓的无污染健康食品。Professor当时给我解释的原因是市面上没有有机化肥，现有的
化肥都是经过加工而成的，所以种出来的食品也不可能是“有机”食品，Professor说
现在所谓的“健康食品”只是营销的一种策略，她们家全是生物学家，没有一个人会去
买“Organic Food”。
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 给众多不明就里还进来瞎搅一通的ID们提个醒。
a*a
10 楼
你要这样说的话。。。。
学化学的人会觉得带organic的东西都是有毒的
【在 A*******3 的大作中提到】
: 作为一个专业曾经为为horticulture的人可以负责的说，organic的定义为：
: 任何含化学元素碳的生物都称之为organic，翻译为有机
: 转基因跟有机不是一个层面上的概念，没有什么可比较的。另外有机食品不一定就是所
: 谓的无污染健康食品。Professor当时给我解释的原因是市面上没有有机化肥，现有的
: 化肥都是经过加工而成的，所以种出来的食品也不可能是“有机”食品，Professor说
: 现在所谓的“健康食品”只是营销的一种策略，她们家全是生物学家，没有一个人会去
: 买“Organic Food”。
学化学的人会觉得带organic的东西都是有毒的
【在 A*******3 的大作中提到】
: 作为一个专业曾经为为horticulture的人可以负责的说，organic的定义为：
: 任何含化学元素碳的生物都称之为organic，翻译为有机
: 转基因跟有机不是一个层面上的概念，没有什么可比较的。另外有机食品不一定就是所
: 谓的无污染健康食品。Professor当时给我解释的原因是市面上没有有机化肥，现有的
: 化肥都是经过加工而成的，所以种出来的食品也不可能是“有机”食品，Professor说
: 现在所谓的“健康食品”只是营销的一种策略，她们家全是生物学家，没有一个人会去
: 买“Organic Food”。
A*3
11 楼
说了是从生物学的角度说的，与化学毛关系
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 你要这样说的话。。。。
: 学化学的人会觉得带organic的东西都是有毒的
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 你要这样说的话。。。。
: 学化学的人会觉得带organic的东西都是有毒的
f*p
12 楼
童鞋，你和大笨蛋勾搭的怎么样了？还有心思到这里来起哄？！～
【在 A*******3 的大作中提到】
: 说了是从生物学的角度说的，与化学毛关系
A*3
13 楼
大笨蛋他可能不喜欢我是市区的，而我又听取了你的意见觉得网络不靠谱，所以现在只
是专心灌水了
【在 f****p 的大作中提到】
:
: 童鞋，你和大笨蛋勾搭的怎么样了？还有心思到这里来起哄？！～
是专心灌水了
【在 f****p 的大作中提到】
:
: 童鞋，你和大笨蛋勾搭的怎么样了？还有心思到这里来起哄？！～
J*0
14 楼
这么长谁看啊。记得以前的结论是，
- 不用化肥农药，无论转基因与否，都是Organic
- 不用化肥农药，不含转基因，称100% Organic。
这是两个不同的认证
resultant
frequently
cotton,
alfalfa
for
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
: GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
: scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
: organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
: done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
: and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
: to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
: patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
: seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
: no more investment money for research.
- 不用化肥农药，无论转基因与否，都是Organic
- 不用化肥农药，不含转基因，称100% Organic。
这是两个不同的认证
resultant
frequently
cotton,
alfalfa
for
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
: GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
: scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
: organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
: done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
: and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
: to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
: patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
: seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
: no more investment money for research.
g*j
15 楼
有机可不可以有转基因全看政府规定
你美国政府说有机得没转基因
我中国可以规定有机可以有转基因
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 给众多不明就里还进来瞎搅一通的ID们提个醒。
你美国政府说有机得没转基因
我中国可以规定有机可以有转基因
【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 给众多不明就里还进来瞎搅一通的ID们提个醒。
l*a
16 楼
Until recently, I assumed GMO food could not be called “organic.” The U.S.
and Canada both prohibit 100% certified organic food from containing
GMOingredients.
【在 J**0 的大作中提到】
: 这么长谁看啊。记得以前的结论是，
: - 不用化肥农药，无论转基因与否，都是Organic
: - 不用化肥农药，不含转基因，称100% Organic。
: 这是两个不同的认证
:
: resultant
: frequently
: cotton,
: alfalfa
: for
and Canada both prohibit 100% certified organic food from containing
GMOingredients.
【在 J**0 的大作中提到】
: 这么长谁看啊。记得以前的结论是，
: - 不用化肥农药，无论转基因与否，都是Organic
: - 不用化肥农药，不含转基因，称100% Organic。
: 这是两个不同的认证
:
: resultant
: frequently
: cotton,
: alfalfa
: for
z*n
17 楼
The U.S. and Canada both prohibit 100% certified organic food from containin
g GMO ingredients.
把这个政府文件找出来吧，不然你说服有限得很。
resultant
frequently
cotton,
alfalfa
for
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
: GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
: scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
: organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
: done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
: and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
: to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
: patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
: seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
: no more investment money for research.
g GMO ingredients.
把这个政府文件找出来吧，不然你说服有限得很。
resultant
frequently
cotton,
alfalfa
for
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 我以前查过，转基因就不能称为有机。
: GMO Food: Genetically-modified organisms. This refers to the act of
: scientifically modifying the genetic structure of an organism. The resultant
: organism will have specifically defined characteristics. This is frequently
: done with seeds for crops. In the U.S., most of our soybeans, corn, cotton,
: and canola are genetically modified. Recently, the U.S. allowed GMO alfalfa
: to be planted without restriction. The genetically modified seeds can be
: patented. After all, the research to make them costs money. The argument for
: seed patents is that the investor must receive a return, or there will be
: no more investment money for research.
a*a
18 楼
organic food这个词里的organic和生物学有毛关系
这个organic是advertising和policy making里的organic
再说了，horticulture is not biology, it's hardly a science
【在 A*******3 的大作中提到】
: 说了是从生物学的角度说的，与化学毛关系
这个organic是advertising和policy making里的organic
再说了，horticulture is not biology, it's hardly a science
【在 A*******3 的大作中提到】
: 说了是从生物学的角度说的，与化学毛关系
a*a
19 楼
agree.这个organic就是一广告词，和science一点关系都没有
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 有机可不可以有转基因全看政府规定
: 你美国政府说有机得没转基因
: 我中国可以规定有机可以有转基因
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 有机可不可以有转基因全看政府规定
: 你美国政府说有机得没转基因
: 我中国可以规定有机可以有转基因
H*y
20 楼
Ding
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