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b*t2011-05-16 07:05

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同时申请了２个学校，都被录取了，选了一个比较满意的学校，同时拒了另外一个。房
子也联系好了，结果今天收到他们的一封信，说我的application has been denied。
这前前后后差的也太多了吧。
关键是，这一年我该怎么办？
找他们理论之前，想知道这种事情经常发生吗？太坑人了

g*i2011-05-16 07:05

2 楼

Call them, Usually Secretary makes lots of mistakes. It happens to me
several times.
Remember: In usa, always keep evidence and show your evidence when you argue with them.

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 同时申请了２个学校，都被录取了，选了一个比较满意的学校，同时拒了另外一个。房
: 子也联系好了，结果今天收到他们的一封信，说我的application has been denied。
: 这前前后后差的也太多了吧。
: 关键是，这一年我该怎么办？
: 找他们理论之前，想知道这种事情经常发生吗？太坑人了

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

3 楼

谢谢你的支持，我现在头脑一片空白

g*i2011-05-16 07:05

4 楼

If you have admission letter or email, call them. I am pretty sure it is
secretary's mistake.
It happens to me today, I argued with secretary and she acknowledged it was
her mistake.

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢你的支持，我现在头脑一片空白

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

5 楼

This is the email which They sent to me on Apl
Congratulations. You have been accepted as a graduate student at XXXUniversity.
We will send more information to you very soon.
-Grad Office
but today received a letter from the graduate school saying that my
application has been denied.
I do not known,what should i do for they are real,they did not make mistake.

g*i2011-05-16 07:05

6 楼

Call grad office after forward the email of acceptance.

XXXUniversity.
mistake.

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: This is the email which They sent to me on Apl
: Congratulations. You have been accepted as a graduate student at XXXUniversity.
: We will send more information to you very soon.
: -Grad Office
: but today received a letter from the graduate school saying that my
: application has been denied.
: I do not known,what should i do for they are real,they did not make mistake.

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

7 楼

Thanks,you are so nice,i will call they tomorrow.

【在 g******i 的大作中提到】

: Call grad office after forward the email of acceptance.
:
: XXXUniversity.
: mistake.

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

8 楼

如果他们说以拒信为主，怎么办？我白白的呆上一年不说，明年也不见得能申请上其他
学校。

b*b2011-05-16 07:05

9 楼

有可能，系里录取了，报到grad school没通过？这情况实在少见？发信的是同一个人
么？

c*32011-05-16 07:05

10 楼

没这么无耻吧...我记得有什么机构可以申诉的样子，不过应该很费事

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 如果他们说以拒信为主，怎么办？我白白的呆上一年不说，明年也不见得能申请上其他
: 学校。

g*i2011-05-16 07:05

11 楼

No, this Can not happen, Univ are not SOB, they will accept you. Remember:
Don't be afraid of Americans!

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 如果他们说以拒信为主，怎么办？我白白的呆上一年不说，明年也不见得能申请上其他
: 学校。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

12 楼

我早上写了封信给他们，貌似，学院收了。系里反悔了

U*n2011-05-16 07:05

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顺便说说我的经历吧。申请的时候，让我补了几次材料，打电话的时候是不同人接，所
以说法不一。最后终于是前后同一个人接电话了，居然不记得我了。
拿着录取信到学校报到，登记住宿的时候，居然被告知，“你不是我们学校的”。把我
吓死了。留了电话，刚走到楼下，电话打过来，说发现我确实是学校的。
从头到尾都是小错

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

14 楼

谢谢给我发信息的朋友，我因为是新手，不能回，在这里表示感谢以及对我的支持，说
实在的，我以为自己有多坚强，但还是被打击了，以为自己的日子见了曙光，结果，昨
天如果不上来，得到你们的支持，真的，我今天肯定已经病倒了。这个学校我去年１２
月份申请的，一直拖到４月份才给消息，过程很煎熬，本来要回国了，但一点心情都没
有，就想马上结婚，酒店都订好了，亲朋也找完了，结果，新郎劈腿了。
我比较内向，关键时候说话不干劲，怕人家一听我英语不那么流利，就更不要我了。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

15 楼

你的情况是他们乌龙，我的是抵赖，我想有人把我给顶了

【在 U***n 的大作中提到】

: 顺便说说我的经历吧。申请的时候，让我补了几次材料，打电话的时候是不同人接，所
: 以说法不一。最后终于是前后同一个人接电话了，居然不记得我了。
: 拿着录取信到学校报到，登记住宿的时候，居然被告知，“你不是我们学校的”。把我
: 吓死了。留了电话，刚走到楼下，电话打过来，说发现我确实是学校的。
: 从头到尾都是小错

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

16 楼

这么写的话语气可以吗？
My name is XXX. I applied for the Master in Science program in XX for Fall
2011 semester and was admitted in early April. I was very surprised to
receive a letter on May 16 from the graduate school that my application has
been denied.
I applied for master programs in two universities last November. In early
April
I received an email (attached) about my admission to the graduate program
at GSU, which I was very excited about. I then contacted the other
university and withdrew my application since GSU is my first choice.
Now I'm a little bit confused about the latest notice. Could you kindly
confirm that it's just a system error and my admission into Fall 2011 master
's program in XX is still official? For your reference, my interest is in
XXX and I prefer Prof. Y as my advisor.
I really appreciate your help to clarify the matter.
Sincerely,

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

17 楼

刚刚打电话过去，他们说同时录取５个，但在５个里再面选２个。
我已经把网友帮我修改的信发到研究生院了，我想下一步是，如果他们拒绝，我就加一
句，自费也接受，行吗？

z*a2011-05-16 07:05

18 楼

does not make any sense. 什么叫做５个里再面选２个？已经accepted，怎么个再选
法，这个学校开玩笑吗？

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 刚刚打电话过去，他们说同时录取５个，但在５个里再面选２个。
: 我已经把网友帮我修改的信发到研究生院了，我想下一步是，如果他们拒绝，我就加一
: 句，自费也接受，行吗？

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

19 楼

我也很奇怪，都已经录取了，怎么突然又说５个里面选３个，之前干什么了？
在一个１月１７号就开始ｒｅｖｉｗｅ，４月７号发的录取信，之间询问过什么时候有
结果，说让我等着，还没有结果。　我学的专业，开设研究生的学校没有几所，这个时
候估计招到学生了。关键是，你明明收了，却一个月后变卦了，理由也太牵强了。

S*72011-05-16 07:05

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Let me recap what you said: A and B schools both accepted you, you like B
better, so you declined the offer from A. Now B school says they don’t
want
you. What you should do?
This is US. We will use law to defend us, of course!
The following is what you can email to B school in response to the
email/letter they withdrow their offer:
Dear XXX,
I have consulted a lawyer; here was what he said to me:
There is a Promissory Estoppel doctrine in the law of contracts. The
doctrine provides that if a party (me) changes his or her position
substantially either by acting (the fact that I declined the offer from
the
A school) or forbearing from acting in reliance upon a gratuitous promise
(B
school’s offer), then that party (me) can enforce the promise against B
school.
I really don't want to use legal procedure for now. But because I declined
the offer from A, if you withdrow your offer, I will end up with no offer
at all. I hope you can reconsider your decision and honor my offer as
shown in the email/letter
you sent to me on Month/date/2011. Thanks!

l*32011-05-16 07:05

21 楼

ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。
这个我觉得没啥问题。到校长那里投诉一下，一定会有结果的～

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

n*12011-05-16 07:05

22 楼

祝福。
这事太狗血了，不过我觉得楼主最后会有惊无险。

i*T2011-05-16 07:05

23 楼

这个看着不错
这个情况应该是这样的，学校原来有5个grad stu的funding，但现在经济不好，只有2
个grad stu的
funding了。cut funding的情况现在太多了，只不过看学校怎么支配。想这个系这种把
已经发出的
offer收回的实在不要脸。但是如果真是没有funding，那也没办法。可能的解决方案也
就是说没奖学
金，变成addmission，或者推迟1年入学，系里明年筹钱给奖学金。

【在 S***7 的大作中提到】

: Let me recap what you said: A and B schools both accepted you, you like B
: better, so you declined the offer from A. Now B school says they don’t
: want
: you. What you should do?
: This is US. We will use law to defend us, of course!
: The following is what you can email to B school in response to the
: email/letter they withdrow their offer:
: Dear XXX,
: I have consulted a lawyer; here was what he said to me:
: There is a Promissory Estoppel doctrine in the law of contracts. The

T*y2011-05-16 07:05

24 楼

会不会是这样：LZ被录取为研究生了，但financial aid的申请被拒了。也就是LZ要自
费上研究生。

ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

w*a2011-05-16 07:05

25 楼

见过这种情况，系里发全奖offer，gradschool发据信。但是LZ似乎不是这样

【在 b*******b 的大作中提到】

: 有可能，系里录取了，报到grad school没通过？这情况实在少见？发信的是同一个人
: 么？

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

26 楼

谢谢你们的支持和祝福，我因为权力有限不能给你发信息一一感谢，但心里有底了，是
啊，我明明有理，干嘛吓得跟什么似的，再一个我可以自费，没钱可以和我说干嘛一下
子就把我给推了？发了２封信出去了，电话里沟通一般。
我会把我的过程汇报给大家，不管结果如何。

P*p2011-05-16 07:05

27 楼

你有正式offer letter么

ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

P*p2011-05-16 07:05

28 楼

yeap

argue with them.

【在 g******i 的大作中提到】

: Call them, Usually Secretary makes lots of mistakes. It happens to me
: several times.
: Remember: In usa, always keep evidence and show your evidence when you argue with them.

l*a2011-05-16 07:05

29 楼

如果你已经接到录取通知书，而第二封又没说之前的信是个错误，就说明第二封信其实
是发错了。你可以直接和教授联系上学课程适宜或其它与录取无关的事，只要这些都落
实好了，你就可以去上学了。

s*z2011-05-16 07:05

30 楼

bless louzhu!

H*H2011-05-16 07:05

31 楼

call the school. Write letters and show your evidence to the Department
Chair, the DEAN of your college and Dean of your Graduate School. Tell them
you already refused other offer schools. This is a problem of credibility.
And this SCREWED Up your life.
and usually the Dean will put pressure on your department.
严王好惹，小鬼难缠
it is the same everywhere

c*h2011-05-16 07:05

32 楼

膜拜牛人，万能的mit呀。

B

【在 S***7 的大作中提到】

S*72011-05-16 07:05

33 楼

"刚刚打电话过去，他们说同时录取５个，但在５个里再面选２个。"
Questions: You mentioned two letters you got from them. Were those letters
emails or physical mails?
Do you mind share the original content in your 1st letter with us (you can
omit sensitive info, such as your name and the school name etc.)?

ｅｄ．刚刚
改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

34 楼

对不起，第二封，让我撕了，昨天收垃圾，估计给收走了。
第一封信：
MY name,
Congratulations. You have been accepted as a graduate student at X Ｘ
University.
We will send more information to you very soon.
-Grad Office

P*p2011-05-16 07:05

35 楼

热

them

【在 H*H 的大作中提到】

: call the school. Write letters and show your evidence to the Department
: Chair, the DEAN of your college and Dean of your Graduate School. Tell them
: you already refused other offer schools. This is a problem of credibility.
: And this SCREWED Up your life.
: and usually the Dean will put pressure on your department.
: 严王好惹，小鬼难缠
: it is the same everywhere

P*p2011-05-16 07:05

36 楼

looks like a formal offer letter to me

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 对不起，第二封，让我撕了，昨天收垃圾，估计给收走了。
: 第一封信：
: MY name,
: Congratulations. You have been accepted as a graduate student at X Ｘ
: University.
: We will send more information to you very soon.
: -Grad Office

S*72011-05-16 07:05

37 楼

So, is the 1st letter a physical letter? I ask this question because there
might be an argument that emails don't count as official.

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

38 楼

但录取的ｅｍａｉｌ来了一个月之后，才寄来第二封信说我被拒了，中间我做了很多去那里上学的准备。
４个月：申请－录取
１个月：录取－被拒
我觉得他们在给我第一封信之前，有充分的时间决定留下谁，因为申请的截止日期是：
１月７号

P*p2011-05-16 07:05

39 楼

可以告他们

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 但录取的ｅｍａｉｌ来了一个月之后，才寄来第二封信说我被拒了，中间我做了很多去那里上学的准备。
: ４个月：申请－录取
: １个月：录取－被拒
: 我觉得他们在给我第一封信之前，有充分的时间决定留下谁，因为申请的截止日期是：
: １月７号

S*72011-05-16 07:05

40 楼

Just saw your updates and the 1st letter was an email. That might cause a
little bit issue. But it definitely was an offer, a promise. So you can
still invoke the doctrine aforementioned.

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

41 楼

我也这么想的,３封信信发出去，没有任何回复。

【在 P********p 的大作中提到】

: 可以告他们

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

42 楼

对我来讲是可信的，才把自己的另外一条路给断了。如今马上放假了，突然说不要我了
，这让我太意外了。多亏你们在这里帮我，我才把３封信发出去，不然头都空了，也大
了，他们这个玩笑开得也太大了。

【在 S***7 的大作中提到】

: Just saw your updates and the 1st letter was an email. That might cause a
: little bit issue. But it definitely was an offer, a promise. So you can
: still invoke the doctrine aforementioned.

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

43 楼

按照你的名单，我追加了一封信。谢谢

them

【在 H*H 的大作中提到】

S*72011-05-16 07:05

44 楼

I will wait until they respond. They need time to figure out the legal
consequences. I guess they are talking to their attorney now. I don't
think they have a good defense. So I think you eventually will have the
offer back.

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 我也这么想的,３封信信发出去，没有任何回复。

c*e2011-05-16 07:05

45 楼

安慰安慰mm, 每个人都会有低谷，会挺过去的。给自己打打气。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢给我发信息的朋友，我因为是新手，不能回，在这里表示感谢以及对我的支持，说
: 实在的，我以为自己有多坚强，但还是被打击了，以为自己的日子见了曙光，结果，昨
: 天如果不上来，得到你们的支持，真的，我今天肯定已经病倒了。这个学校我去年１２
: 月份申请的，一直拖到４月份才给消息，过程很煎熬，本来要回国了，但一点心情都没
: 有，就想马上结婚，酒店都订好了，亲朋也找完了，结果，新郎劈腿了。
: 我比较内向，关键时候说话不干劲，怕人家一听我英语不那么流利，就更不要我了。

p*j2011-05-16 07:05

46 楼

会有消息的，相信有志者事竟成！

s*e2011-05-16 07:05

47 楼

I know some cases that Graduate school sent out acceptance letter early (and
normally, many people can get this), but department declined.
Most of cases, it is the department has the decision power, graduate school
is joke.
Seems LZ is this situation. He never got the offer letter from department.
Only an extremely short email from graduate school for acceptance.

【在 w**a 的大作中提到】

: 见过这种情况，系里发全奖offer，gradschool发据信。但是LZ似乎不是这样

s*e2011-05-16 07:05

48 楼

Basically, LZ was never been officially accepted by the department. Only got
an empty check from graduate school.
We got many those kind of empty checks when we applied. We all know it is
useless, and only the department offer letter count.

and
school

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】

: I know some cases that Graduate school sent out acceptance letter early (and
: normally, many people can get this), but department declined.
: Most of cases, it is the department has the decision power, graduate school
: is joke.
: Seems LZ is this situation. He never got the offer letter from department.
: Only an extremely short email from graduate school for acceptance.

C*e2011-05-16 07:05

49 楼

这种事情也有？
lz加油表气馁~！
学校多收一笔学费何乐不为

c*r2011-05-16 07:05

50 楼

搞了半天，到底是什么烂校？楼主应该
透露以下，以后别人就不要去了

s*e2011-05-16 07:05

51 楼

转贴 to "Gowest" board le.
That's where you should ask. Not here.

ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。
不方便透漏然后就不理我了。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

d*u2011-05-16 07:05

52 楼

好像是GSU吧

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】

: 搞了半天，到底是什么烂校？楼主应该
: 透露以下，以后别人就不要去了

a*e2011-05-16 07:05

53 楼

bless 楼主这年头谁都不容易

s*k2011-05-16 07:05

54 楼

email offer不是offical的,不算数的,如果是hacker发的呐?

f*t2011-05-16 07:05

55 楼

楼主你收到的这封email录取信就这么两句话？感觉并不正式，我记得正式录取的offer
email是很长的一封。
楼主要做好最坏打算，这件事校方估计会表示sorry，但that's it，什么打官司的主意
都不用考虑了，学校每年花很多钱养律师的，你没有胜算，现在尽量跟学校协商能不能
晚一学期入学并且要问明白是不是assisstantship的问题。看情况楼主人现在是在美国
，自费不知道有没有问题。

l*i2011-05-16 07:05

56 楼

搭车问一句
正式的录取通知书是不是都是邮寄到住址的？
像lz这种Email的我感觉只是一个通知你进度的
但是最终的录取通知书是寄到家的

H*H2011-05-16 07:05

57 楼

1) offical admission letter is usually emailed first and then mailed.
2) admission and financial aid are two separate things

n*12011-05-16 07:05

58 楼

那封email确实很奇怪，太不正式了。

offer

【在 f*******t 的大作中提到】

: 楼主你收到的这封email录取信就这么两句话？感觉并不正式，我记得正式录取的offer
: email是很长的一封。
: 楼主要做好最坏打算，这件事校方估计会表示sorry，但that's it，什么打官司的主意
: 都不用考虑了，学校每年花很多钱养律师的，你没有胜算，现在尽量跟学校协商能不能
: 晚一学期入学并且要问明白是不是assisstantship的问题。看情况楼主人现在是在美国
: ，自费不知道有没有问题。

H*H2011-05-16 07:05

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agreed. Usually letter like this should be sent by the department, not
graduate school.

【在 n*******1 的大作中提到】

: 那封email确实很奇怪，太不正式了。
:
: offer

r*x2011-05-16 07:05

60 楼

留名看结果
lz不用担心，一般好点的学校这方面都比较正式的，一定会给你一个合理的答复
只有比较糙的学校才会出尔反尔，这样的学校lz也不去也罢，去了说不定也后悔呢

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

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这几天什么心思都没有了，谢谢ＭＭ．

【在 c****e 的大作中提到】

: 安慰安慰mm, 每个人都会有低谷，会挺过去的。给自己打打气。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

62 楼

这个学校确实一般，周围几个州，好点的学校没有我的专业。

【在 r*****x 的大作中提到】

: 留名看结果
: lz不用担心，一般好点的学校这方面都比较正式的，一定会给你一个合理的答复
: 只有比较糙的学校才会出尔反尔，这样的学校lz也不去也罢，去了说不定也后悔呢

l*n2011-05-16 07:05

63 楼

pat pat，据理力争

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

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我在这个专业有工作经验，方向也还可以，准备的材料也很谨慎，觉得应该没有问题，
尤其收到地一封ｅｍａｉｌ的时候，我知道这不是ｏｆｆｉｃａｌ,但我想也就是个程
序问题，根本没有想到有这手儿。
所以，你们以后一定别吃我这个亏，就是找到工作，拿到ｏｆｆｅｒ了，第一个没签合
同，第二个都不能拒了。

【在 s***k 的大作中提到】

: email offer不是offical的,不算数的,如果是hacker发的呐?

D*n2011-05-16 07:05

65 楼

cmft

ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。
不方便透漏然后就不理我了。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

x*n2011-05-16 07:05

66 楼

Re

【在 S***7 的大作中提到】

b*62011-05-16 07:05

67 楼

bless

s*k2011-05-16 07:05

68 楼

联系你拒掉的学校,看看有没有可能再录取?

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 我在这个专业有工作经验，方向也还可以，准备的材料也很谨慎，觉得应该没有问题，
: 尤其收到地一封ｅｍａｉｌ的时候，我知道这不是ｏｆｆｉｃａｌ,但我想也就是个程
: 序问题，根本没有想到有这手儿。
: 所以，你们以后一定别吃我这个亏，就是找到工作，拿到ｏｆｆｅｒ了，第一个没签合
: 同，第二个都不能拒了。

L*s2011-05-16 07:05

69 楼

啥垃圾学校,不去也罢!

c*e2011-05-16 07:05

70 楼

死马当活马医，试试看，大不了被拒。
就说先前有family emergency, 打算就在国内工作的，就pass了，现在一切都okay了
，还是觉得pursuing a MS degree at XXX university is my life-time dream. 你
可以试试写个草稿

【在 s***k 的大作中提到】

: 联系你拒掉的学校,看看有没有可能再录取?

S*72011-05-16 07:05

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A contract is formed if there is offer and acceptance.
The email is definitely an offer!!!
Did you accept their offer by emailing them back?

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

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我４月初就给人家据了，当时我朋友还说，我可能被上了人家的黑名单了，给了ｏｆｆ
ｅｒ不要的，下次申请也够呛了

【在 c****e 的大作中提到】

: 死马当活马医，试试看，大不了被拒。
: 就说先前有family emergency, 打算就在国内工作的，就pass了，现在一切都okay了
: ，还是觉得pursuing a MS degree at XXX university is my life-time dream. 你
: 可以试试写个草稿

t*r2011-05-16 07:05

73 楼

晕！不带这么吓人的啊。。。

【在 U***n 的大作中提到】

g*t2011-05-16 07:05

74 楼

这学校真气人!
一定要据理力争,绝不忍气吞声!
bless!

Z*l2011-05-16 07:05

75 楼

你确定第一份email是真的么？不是什么朋友开玩笑，或者仇家寄来的？
没有实信，而且是这种超短email，应该立即打电话证实，不能相信。

去那里上学的准备。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

l*x2011-05-16 07:05

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一般学校offer都是很长得，会说为什么录取你，例如你得背景在众多申请着中拖印而
出blah。。。
然后会给你一个deadline让你accept这个offer，一般是2，3个星期。
最后有dean的手写签名（这个很重要）
有的学校还直接把学号什么的，申请学校宿舍的方法之类告诉你。。。
你的offer似乎不太正式。。。

X*82011-05-16 07:05

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这个。。。应该有正式的回复才对吧？你打电话，人家可能给忘了。美国人经常这样的
。如无正式回复人家可能认为你不去
呢。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 我４月初就给人家据了，当时我朋友还说，我可能被上了人家的黑名单了，给了ｏｆｆ
: ｅｒ不要的，下次申请也够呛了

l*x2011-05-16 07:05

78 楼

双方的行为都狠怪异吖。

【在 X*******8 的大作中提到】

: 这个。。。应该有正式的回复才对吧？你打电话，人家可能给忘了。美国人经常这样的
: 。如无正式回复人家可能认为你不去
: 呢。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

79 楼

真的肯定是真的。
剩下的就是学校的联系方式，发信人的信息了，不方便公布。

【在 Z*****l 的大作中提到】

: 你确定第一份email是真的么？不是什么朋友开玩笑，或者仇家寄来的？
: 没有实信，而且是这种超短email，应该立即打电话证实，不能相信。
:
: 去那里上学的准备。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

80 楼

你是为了灌水才扔的砖头吧。

【在 l*******x 的大作中提到】

: 双方的行为都狠怪异吖。

n*22011-05-16 07:05

81 楼

留名

r*n2011-05-16 07:05

82 楼

我觉得你可以找一个律师，然后咨询一下能不能告那个学校。
要点赔偿至少要诚恳的向你道歉。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 这几天什么心思都没有了，谢谢ＭＭ．

l*x2011-05-16 07:05

83 楼

呵呵，这个就是水世界吖。。。
我觉得你可以考虑别去这个学校了，太烂了。你现在再申请几所，应该还有学校还在招
人，现在很多锯了学校的不去。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

: 你是为了灌水才扔的砖头吧。

d*52011-05-16 07:05

84 楼

做好讨价还价的准备。
估计学校要settle，但是不一定能给你最好的条件，可能推迟一年入学之类。
但是，如果你不fight，就什么都没有

ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。
不方便透漏然后就不理我了。

【在 b********t 的大作中提到】

w*92011-05-16 07:05

85 楼

同情MM！
咱们老中在美国真是太弱势了。。。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

86 楼

谢谢你的建议，今年恐怕肯定没戏了，还要等到明年９月份。

【在 l*******x 的大作中提到】

: 呵呵，这个就是水世界吖。。。
: 我觉得你可以考虑别去这个学校了，太烂了。你现在再申请几所，应该还有学校还在招
: 人，现在很多锯了学校的不去。

b*t2011-05-16 07:05

87 楼

我按照大家的建议给他们发了信（没人回），打电话，冷淡，含含糊糊。我想亲自开车
去一趟。

【在 d********5 的大作中提到】

: 做好讨价还价的准备。
: 估计学校要settle，但是不一定能给你最好的条件，可能推迟一年入学之类。
: 但是，如果你不fight，就什么都没有
:
: ｅｄ．刚刚改的没多久，因为上个月还是ａｃｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ。
: 不方便透漏然后就不理我了。

w*12011-05-16 07:05

88 楼

那个email根本不算正式offer，在拿到正式offer之前就据掉其他学校这个不合适的。
很多年前大概00 01年的样子，连I20都拿到都准备签证了，然后一个email把offer
收回，最后怎么样不清楚

P*D2011-05-16 07:05

89 楼

不收到正式纸质录取信外加I-20就不算。
当然lz已经是这样了，警醒下后来人吧。

d*y2011-05-16 07:05

90 楼

这个真是教训，应该拿到正式的录取通知书才能最终作决定的。现在argue也没啥用，
人家说犯了错误，你也没办法。

l*82011-05-16 07:05

91 楼

咦，lz不是说这学校开始时候给了奖学金的么，那应该有信件通知说有financial
support的吧？

S*72011-05-16 07:05

92 楼

Folks, let’s face it! You have to use legal knowledge to solve this issue!
Let’s start with the question 1: was there a contract formed between the
school and LZ?
Contract formation requires mutual assent to the same terms by the parties,
generally manifested by an offer and acceptance. When the school sent an
email to LZ with the following content “Congratulations. You have been
accepted as a graduate student at ＸＸ University”, it was an offer from
the school.
LZ then called the school and said “yes, I accept”. That was acceptance.
The acceptance was done when the offer was still open and valid.
So there was a contract formed between the school and LZ.
Some people say “it’s just an email! And it might not from the school”.
From the facts LZ provided, “the school has admitted 5 people, but somehow
only 2 offers will be honored”, we can imply that LZ was one of the 5
people initially admitted. That means LZ indeed got an offer from the school
initially. After LZ called and accepted the offer, the contract was formed
between school and LZ. I don’t care why the school came up with some BS of
only 2 out of 5 will be admitted.
Ok, I know some of you argue that the email offer might be a mistake. In
this situation, LZ can still sue them on negligence. LZ relied to her
detriment (declined another offer, and have no other choice but wait for one
more year now) upon the offer. And such detrimental reliance was reasonably
foreseeable by the school. The school had a duty to make sure such mistakes
not to be happened. If there was such mistake, they breached their duty.
Their breach directly caused the damages on LZ. So LZ can still sue for
recovery based on negligence of torts law.

S*72011-05-16 07:05

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Question2: is the contract enforceable?
Yes! LZ relied on the school’s email (offer/promise) and declined the offer
from other school. That was a detrimental change of position by LZ. And
this detrimental change was definitely a foreseeable event by the school. As
I mentioned in my previous post, the doctrine of promissory estoppel makes
this contract enforceable. So the school has to honor their offer to LZ.

w*e2011-05-16 07:05

94 楼

I walked through admission process in GSU and talked physically with staff
in graduate admisison office and the department.
Department makes decison first and the program coordinator will sign the
offer letter;
Department secretary forward all materals to graduate admission office;
Dean in the graduate admission office will review all offers and sign the
offer letter;
graduate office staff will mail the official letters to applicants. Done!
You should not receive any email offer as far as I know. I never received
any email about acceptance from Department or gradute admissin office.
Good luck!

o*r2011-05-16 07:05

95 楼

of course an emial offer is a legal contract. A contract either in
electronic or hard copy is protected by law. As long as LZ has accepted the
contract, even if it is a mistake made by an individual school staff, the
school has the full obligation to fulfill it.

d*e2011-05-16 07:05

96 楼

This whole case sounds extremely strange and unreal.
The first email does not look like something a decent
school will send out. The OP should go back and read
that email again, and check the source (full header,
etc.)
There are cases when admission letters were sent out
by mistake. In one reported case, the school apologized
and told them it was a mistake. In another (unreported),
the school admitted all students who were sent the
letter (they were on the lower priority waiting list).
Consequently, those on the higher priority waiting list
were denied.
However, I can't imagine the mistake was not caught
for one month. There is absolutely legal ground to sue.
Any school will not want to go to trail. The cost of
going to trail is too expensive to anyone except
perhaps Harvard. Not to say it's a case the school
has no chance of winning.
So I doubt the authenticity of the story, but believe
the OP should not worry if what she said was true.

M*n2011-05-16 07:05

97 楼

take it easy.
I had a similar experience about a fellowship. I received the award notice
but later they withdrew due to limited fund available.
你要争一下，就争一下，你自己的利益，如果不争也没有人给你出头的。
但是看开一点，你问人家要一个东西，人家不给你，你也没办法。
如果争不到，那就move on. 不要生气了。