http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles 1. Hao Xin How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers. Some prizewinners may be salivating, but at least one prominent Chinese-Amer ican scientist aware of the new program blasts it as a massive waste of reso urces. “It is better to invest in a whole new generation of talent than to buy reputation,” says David Ho, director of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center (ADARC) in New York City. “Someone should step up and put an end to this folly.” The initiative will be a new component of the Chinese government's Recruitme nt Program of Global Experts, commonly known as Qianren Jihua. Launched in 2 008 with the goal of recruiting up to 2000 experts from abroad over 5 to 10 years (Science, 31 July 2009, p. 534), the program so far has tallied 1143 r ecipients, including 880 “innovative talents” to work at universities and research institutes. The rest are “entrepreneurial talents” recruited to r un high-tech companies. Despite Qianren Jihua's impressive numbers, many observers say the program i s foundering. Initially, it mandated that awardees spend 6 to 9 months a yea r in China for a minimum of 3 years. Most recruits, however, have not signed contracts or moved to China, says Li Ning, a public policy researcher at th e University of Guam. The main reason awardees give for not having signed co ntracts is that they haven't received start-up funds. Qianren Jihua “is a huge disaster right now,” claims Mu-ming Poo, part-tim e director of the Institute of Neuroscience of the Chinese Academy of Scienc es (CAS) in Shanghai. That sentiment is shared by many contributors to blog sites on Chinese science. The new component dubbed “Top Qianren” is likely to make the program even more controversial. Its first catch, sources say, is 78-year-old French viro logist Luc Montagnier, who won the 2008 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicin e for co-discovering HIV. Shanghai Jiaotong University recruited Montagnier, who intends to lead research into electromagnetic radiation from highly dil uted pathogen DNA (Science, 24 December 2010, p. 1732), a phenomenon that ma ny scientists dismiss out of hand. University President Zhang Jie and Montag nier did not respond to messages before Science went to press. In the original Qianren Jihua, the program's sponsor, the Organization Depar tment of the Chinese Communist Party's Central Committee (Zhongzubu), provid es each recruit with a $150,000 tax-free relocation allowance. Beyond this s ubsidy, awardees must negotiate salaries and start-up packages with recruite rs. Eager to please Zhongzubu, university and institute officials routinely dangle start-up funds of $1.5 million or more to entice candidates—then fai l to deliver, says Xu Ruiming, a structural biologist at CAS's Institute of Biophysics in Beijing. Xiao-Fan Wang, a cancer researcher at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, says some Qianren recipients “sincerely wanted to go back but have to reconsider when they see no research funding.” However, the $150,000 incentive, sometimes doubled or tripled by local gover nments, entices opportunists, Wang and others say. Problems that dogged prev ious recruitment programs have tainted Qianren Jihua as well, such as recrui ts padding their resumés and professors with full-time jobs overseas double -dipping in China. Some Qianren recruits, Science has learned, are postdocs masquerading as faculty members or are not full professors as the program an nouncement requires. That doesn't appear to perturb Zhongzubu. “Coming from overseas is the most important qualification of Qianren Jihua. All other fa ctors, such as age, degree, or one's professional title, are not that import ant,” says Zhongzubu official Zhang Dong. The perception that a tide of opportunists is cashing in and that many Qianr en awardees are holding out for even bigger carrots riles many Chinese scien tists. In recent years, CAS has established a merit-based promotion and comp ensation system, but “now you suddenly have people coming from the outside getting paid four to five times more,” says Poo, who also holds a full-time faculty position at the University of California, Berkeley, and does not re ceive a salary from CAS. Qianren packages make “people really jealous,” sa ys Poo. Qianren may also inadvertently worsen a long-standing problem faced by Chine se science: the paucity of talented young researchers. It is difficult to re cruit good assistant professors in China already, says Poo, and Qianren Jihu a, by requiring recipients to be tenured full professors or the equivalent a t an overseas institution, essentially tells “the best and the brightest to spend their most productive years abroad.” Buffeted by complaints and misinformation, Zhongzubu has chosen to keep the names of most awardees under wraps. The agency “does not want recipients su bjected to criticism before they even begin working” in China, says Zhang. But Internet users have collected some 450 Qianren names gleaned from Chines e university announcements. Of known awardees, more than 300 have full-time faculty positions outside China, judging by information on their employers' Web sites. More than 100 have research projects sponsored by the U.S. Nation al Institutes of Health or the National Science Foundation, with funding for several years down the line. Most of these awardees cannot spend six or more months in China, as the prog ram envisioned, without reducing the commitment to their current employers. To accommodate them, Zhongzubu created a Qianren category last year that all ows recipients to spend as little as 2 months a year in China. The governmen t expects fewer than 100 awardees each year to choose the short-term categor y, says Zhang. The failure to land many big fish has prompted Zhongzubu to cast for small f ry. Last month, the government launched Young Qianren Jihua, which over the next 5 years aims to recruit from overseas 2000 researchers under age 40. Th e government will provide young recipients with a relocation allowance of ab out $75,000 and research funds ranging from $152,000 to $456,000 over 3 year s. Requirements include Ph.D.s obtained from foreign universities and overse as work experience of 3 years or more. At 1000 or so pay grades higher will be the Nobel laureates and other elites who accept a Top Qianr en award. They'll never have to worry about funding again.
B*Z
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这都怪灰熊猫
d*r
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我觉得现在的问题是谁当得起"超级千人计划", 如果王晓东只是千人计划的话, 那生物领域华人还有谁可以当得起"超级千人计划"? 庄 晓薇? Lily Jan? Roger Tsien? 总之版面上的人可以洗洗睡了...
million yu Nobel lau soon an nation offering
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
其实这篇文章揭示了一个重要问题,就是中组部到底从国务院能够弄到多少钱去支持 千人计划。从文章内容以及听来的消息,就是原来的大千人,中组部只能给出sign up bonus那一部分的津贴,但是却给不起start up,需要下面的单位跟地方政府借助 千人的名头去自己凑。现在的青年千人计划,是明码标价多少bonus,多少start up, 不知道是不是中组部能够全部出。如果真的是这样的话,那么青千反倒比大千人更靠谱 一点
million yu Nobel lau soon an nation offering
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
个进步. 其实更 好 了.. 遣留学生计划, 在 现在中共的外 汇储 Investing in scientific research is good first step. There is always next step to optimize the allocation. Whoever receive 超级千人计划 will have to use the money to recruit the next lower level scientists. This suggests that the Chinese government would rather trust 超级千人 to use the money wisely than themselves to find all the mid and low-level 千人 I trust 超级千人 more than government officials :)
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
That is great! I am going to have my first paper. Once I have publication, I will definitely qualify for this recruitment plan. Ha Ha....super, super!
w*s
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懂个球也是本事啊
【在 wy 的大作中提到】 : 我懂个球
m*f
74 楼
这帮神经病
yu lau an nation offering Amer reso to Research to Recruitme 2 10 r and r i yea signed th co tim Scienc blog even viro medicin Montagnier, dil ma Montag Depar provid s recruite routinely fai of University wanted gover prev recrui double postdocs an from fa import Qianr scien comp outside time re sa Chine re Jihu a to the su . Chines time ' Nation for prog . all governmen categor f the Th ab year overse elites funding
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
B*Z
75 楼
因为灰熊猫。。。
【在 w*s 的大作中提到】 : 说说你怎么看明末为何如此惨烈,让大家鉴赏一下了
n*g
76 楼
利源潮最后的疯狂
a*g
77 楼
扯了这么远了 不就因为明朝离咱们更近么 南北朝说不定更烂 问题没人拿个显微镜照啊
n*t
78 楼
醒醒
【在 d*****r 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得现在的问题是谁当得起"超级千人计划", : 如果王晓东只是千人计划的话, 那生物领域华人还有谁可以当得起"超级千人计划"? 庄 : 晓薇? Lily : Jan? Roger Tsien? : 总之版面上的人可以洗洗睡了... : : million yu : Nobel lau : soon an : nation
yu lau an nation offering Amer reso to Research to Recruitme 2 10 r and r i yea signed th co tim Scienc blog even viro medicin Montagnier, dil ma Montag Depar provid s recruite routinely fai of University wanted gover prev recrui double postdocs an from fa import Qianr scien comp outside time re sa Chine re Jihu a to the su . Chines time ' Nation for prog . all governmen categor f the Th ab year overse elites funding
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.
其实 青年千人(focusing on young generations under 40) 就很好。很奇怪这个美 国的所谓民间的科学杂志的记者 hao xin 不就这个问题多写些。当然这个HIV 诺奖得 主和交大也很恶心人。 另,又见poo mm, 大家都是典型的屁股决定脑袋。上一次他猛批raoyi/syg 还记得清 清楚楚,他当时所代表的圈子是典型的既得利益者阿,这次就明显不是既得利益者了。
yu lau an nation offering
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】 : http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/834.full : 每个人给2300万刀?一年10个?这帮人没睡醒吧。。。 : High-Priced Recruiting of Talent Abroad Raises Hackles : 1. Hao Xin : How much would it take to get you to relocate to China? Would 150 million yu : an ($23 million) do the trick? If so, pack your bags—if you are a Nobel lau : reate, that is. Science has learned that the Chinese government will soon an : nounce a new initiative to lure up to 10 winners of prestigious inter nation : al science prizes—including the Nobel Prize—to China each year by offering : what may be the heftiest reward ever paid to individual researchers.