请教个S2细胞中蛋白表达量太低的问题# Biology - 生物学
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:38:51 2010, 美东) 提到:
背景:
6 (first author)+2 co-author +2 book chapter+1 invited +1 submitted (10
published +2 to be published)
citation 15 (IO only acknowledge 5 of them via his search through google
scholar)
2 student award (IO said no use, too common)
conference presenttion( IO said too common)
U.S. patent pending
Review 31
Recommendation letter 7
Company's lawyer from big law firm
Review met the criteiral in the first round of review , noid intially
After providing some citations in response to Noid, three criteria met but
total merits failed.
Conclusion, 0001 is a subjective killer.
Not sure we will go to appeal or refile after a few months.
Really feel bad now, spend lots of time and money there Is a green card
really worthy of it?
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ilovescu (flyfly2) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:50:27 2010, 美东) 提到:
cft。 应该只claim两项，而且一些弱小的，例如学生奖就不要出现了。 citation也不
能提，再来一次应该没问题，
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joymama (快乐妈妈) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:53:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰下： three criteria met but total merits failed. 很无奈的感觉。
我们在找国内的工作， 真的准备回国了，所以，有些淡定。
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banCDM (蚂蚁) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:53:42 2010, 美东) 提到:
Sorry to hear that. your background is good enough for EB1B. Did you PP? I
guess not. Suggestions:
1. Don't mention student award next time.
2. claim publications and contributions.
3. all others use for support to the two claim. for example, citation support your paper.
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ggghmm (郁闷中) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:57:43 2010, 美东) 提到:
Sigh. Comfort. This total merits rule is really killing people now.
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us2009 (newcomer) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:12:39 2010, 美东) 提到:
totally agree!
In this way ,we can do nothing
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cleverpig (cleverpig) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:19:31 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰一下！
奇怪，我怎么记得你的case是在memo生效以前递交的？
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Cookie2006 (Cookie) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:25:01 2010, 美东) 提到:
Cft！
对EB1B来说应该算不错的case了。运气不好而已。下次一定能过。
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longboat (longboat) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:29:23 2010, 美东) 提到:
cft. can you provide timeline?
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:34:10 2010, 美东) 提到:
we filed end of august through pp, got results today
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cleverpig (cleverpig) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:38:02 2010, 美东) 提到:
8月底memo好像还没出来吧？递交的时候如果memo没出来，后来RFE的时候还能拿memo说
事？
之前看到不少其他人的case，RFE递交的新证据统统不算，说只能以一开始递交的材料算
这帮IO真是双重标准啊！
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:01:28 2010, 美东) 提到:
0001 is really illogic.
Even the lawyer said we should get RFE instead of NOID in the beginning as
we at least met one criteria.
He did not read carefully our response materials.
Anyway just bad luck.. thanks for all the cfts.
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:06:25 2010, 美东) 提到:
I am actually hesitating....
Why should I have my life distorted by some stupid policies? Look at how
those white ppls treat us as such cheap and poor labors.
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Greentea10 (随风飘摇) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:12:37 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰安慰
再试试，感觉运气蛮重要的
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windbells (windbell) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:22:05 2010, 美东) 提到:
patpat
别激动，再试试，就差一步了
要想改变他们的attitude，也要现有身份，才能vote，就可能让他们change
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grabchance (action) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:26:21 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰下， 这个有时候就是运气， 过段时间在组织材料重新来过吧。
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forever2008 (forever) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:35:40 2010, 美东) 提到:
是双标准的，我的RFE中还说了，根据他们的unpublished policy, blabla.
我刚寄了RFE,看来必死无疑阿，之前都不知道有这个两步法。
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forever2008 (forever) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:38:00 2010, 美东) 提到:
可大家不觉得很是费精力，费时间吗，我自己感觉弄个绿卡真是蛮累得。
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TMZ (贝贝) 于 (Tue Oct 12 23:32:22 2010, 美东) 提到:
自己弄真的很累
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cj985 (无风不起浪) 于 (Tue Oct 12 23:48:48 2010, 美东) 提到:
是啊，是劳心劳力啊。
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Hinode (风风火火) 于 (Wed Oct 13 09:46:25 2010, 美东) 提到:
cft. Try it again
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AprilWind (Farmall) 于 (Wed Oct 13 10:12:03 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰 LZ, just bad luck. Try it again and you will get it.
Why 准备回国? Your ID shows you enjoy the time with your kids herein, Haha.
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DVD209 (dvd209) 于 (Wed Oct 13 12:29:26 2010, 美东) 提到:
0001 is a sucker
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Wed Oct 13 15:07:32 2010, 美东) 提到:
Plus I have 49 conference reviews, so total review is 80.
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recky (recky就是recky) 于 (Wed Oct 13 15:29:57 2010, 美东) 提到:
citation 15 (IO only acknowledge 5 of them via
his search through google scholar)
能问一下这是怎么回事么？你自己搜的话，google scholar可以出来15个吗？
还是用了其他的搜索引擎一起算起来的呢。原来IO也会用Google scholar。。。
现在这个two step真是杀人不眨眼啊，太郁闷了。
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Wed Oct 13 19:20:21 2010, 美东) 提到:
He does not acknowledge the 4th citation via scopous and he does not
acknowledge the citation for my book chapters. He probably did not even see
my materials, just did his google scholar search
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recky (recky就是recky) 于 (Wed Oct 13 23:51:13 2010, 美东) 提到:
谢谢回答。是否能问一下4th citation指的是什么？
在你的材料里，citation是怎么做的呢？是打印了搜索引擎的结果吗，
还是打印了引用的文章，谢谢
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purzel (ds3ij2kl) 于 (Thu Oct 14 11:00:49 2010, 美东) 提到:
BLESS!
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gkhjqx (连带Ponyo一起绿) 于 (Thu Oct 14 17:15:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
I think the key problem is the criterion of publication and contribution was
not met. So at least should focus on one of them using all your strength
and plus the review.
The low citation is really a killing point if you don't argue it right.
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Dede123 (德德) 于 (Thu Oct 14 19:00:01 2010, 美东) 提到:
I mean the 4th citation is from scopous not google scholar.
Since I have low citation, I just list the author title, country in a table,
which might not be professional. I also attached all the citation materials
which cited my paper.
You 'd better check others post. Also this is just from 0001 officer. Others
might be different.
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bmwcar (也————) 于 (Sun Oct 17 13:19:36 2010, 美东) 提到:
citation我看了这么多人的case，感觉还是非常非常重要的。我的只有40多，我专门花
了一段话来介绍本领域如何投入不足，特别是相对于类似的领域如何没钱，没钱就没
researcher，就没杂志没引用，就需要国际人士，这样搞一下也许有帮助
这个io感觉确实变态，再投一次吧。
cft
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:38:51 2010, 美东) 提到:
背景:
6 (first author)+2 co-author +2 book chapter+1 invited +1 submitted (10
published +2 to be published)
citation 15 (IO only acknowledge 5 of them via his search through google
scholar)
2 student award (IO said no use, too common)
conference presenttion( IO said too common)
U.S. patent pending
Review 31
Recommendation letter 7
Company's lawyer from big law firm
Review met the criteiral in the first round of review , noid intially
After providing some citations in response to Noid, three criteria met but
total merits failed.
Conclusion, 0001 is a subjective killer.
Not sure we will go to appeal or refile after a few months.
Really feel bad now, spend lots of time and money there Is a green card
really worthy of it?
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
ilovescu (flyfly2) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:50:27 2010, 美东) 提到:
cft。 应该只claim两项，而且一些弱小的，例如学生奖就不要出现了。 citation也不
能提，再来一次应该没问题，
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
joymama (快乐妈妈) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:53:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰下： three criteria met but total merits failed. 很无奈的感觉。
我们在找国内的工作， 真的准备回国了，所以，有些淡定。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
banCDM (蚂蚁) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:53:42 2010, 美东) 提到:
Sorry to hear that. your background is good enough for EB1B. Did you PP? I
guess not. Suggestions:
1. Don't mention student award next time.
2. claim publications and contributions.
3. all others use for support to the two claim. for example, citation support your paper.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
ggghmm (郁闷中) 于 (Tue Oct 12 17:57:43 2010, 美东) 提到:
Sigh. Comfort. This total merits rule is really killing people now.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
us2009 (newcomer) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:12:39 2010, 美东) 提到:
totally agree!
In this way ,we can do nothing
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
cleverpig (cleverpig) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:19:31 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰一下！
奇怪，我怎么记得你的case是在memo生效以前递交的？
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Cookie2006 (Cookie) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:25:01 2010, 美东) 提到:
Cft！
对EB1B来说应该算不错的case了。运气不好而已。下次一定能过。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
longboat (longboat) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:29:23 2010, 美东) 提到:
cft. can you provide timeline?
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:34:10 2010, 美东) 提到:
we filed end of august through pp, got results today
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
cleverpig (cleverpig) 于 (Tue Oct 12 18:38:02 2010, 美东) 提到:
8月底memo好像还没出来吧？递交的时候如果memo没出来，后来RFE的时候还能拿memo说
事？
之前看到不少其他人的case，RFE递交的新证据统统不算，说只能以一开始递交的材料算
这帮IO真是双重标准啊！
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:01:28 2010, 美东) 提到:
0001 is really illogic.
Even the lawyer said we should get RFE instead of NOID in the beginning as
we at least met one criteria.
He did not read carefully our response materials.
Anyway just bad luck.. thanks for all the cfts.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:06:25 2010, 美东) 提到:
I am actually hesitating....
Why should I have my life distorted by some stupid policies? Look at how
those white ppls treat us as such cheap and poor labors.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Greentea10 (随风飘摇) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:12:37 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰安慰
再试试，感觉运气蛮重要的
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
windbells (windbell) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:22:05 2010, 美东) 提到:
patpat
别激动，再试试，就差一步了
要想改变他们的attitude，也要现有身份，才能vote，就可能让他们change
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
grabchance (action) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:26:21 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰下， 这个有时候就是运气， 过段时间在组织材料重新来过吧。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
forever2008 (forever) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:35:40 2010, 美东) 提到:
是双标准的，我的RFE中还说了，根据他们的unpublished policy, blabla.
我刚寄了RFE,看来必死无疑阿，之前都不知道有这个两步法。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
forever2008 (forever) 于 (Tue Oct 12 19:38:00 2010, 美东) 提到:
可大家不觉得很是费精力，费时间吗，我自己感觉弄个绿卡真是蛮累得。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
TMZ (贝贝) 于 (Tue Oct 12 23:32:22 2010, 美东) 提到:
自己弄真的很累
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
cj985 (无风不起浪) 于 (Tue Oct 12 23:48:48 2010, 美东) 提到:
是啊，是劳心劳力啊。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Hinode (风风火火) 于 (Wed Oct 13 09:46:25 2010, 美东) 提到:
cft. Try it again
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AprilWind (Farmall) 于 (Wed Oct 13 10:12:03 2010, 美东) 提到:
安慰 LZ, just bad luck. Try it again and you will get it.
Why 准备回国? Your ID shows you enjoy the time with your kids herein, Haha.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
DVD209 (dvd209) 于 (Wed Oct 13 12:29:26 2010, 美东) 提到:
0001 is a sucker
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Wed Oct 13 15:07:32 2010, 美东) 提到:
Plus I have 49 conference reviews, so total review is 80.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
recky (recky就是recky) 于 (Wed Oct 13 15:29:57 2010, 美东) 提到:
citation 15 (IO only acknowledge 5 of them via
his search through google scholar)
能问一下这是怎么回事么？你自己搜的话，google scholar可以出来15个吗？
还是用了其他的搜索引擎一起算起来的呢。原来IO也会用Google scholar。。。
现在这个two step真是杀人不眨眼啊，太郁闷了。
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Wed Oct 13 19:20:21 2010, 美东) 提到:
He does not acknowledge the 4th citation via scopous and he does not
acknowledge the citation for my book chapters. He probably did not even see
my materials, just did his google scholar search
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
recky (recky就是recky) 于 (Wed Oct 13 23:51:13 2010, 美东) 提到:
谢谢回答。是否能问一下4th citation指的是什么？
在你的材料里，citation是怎么做的呢？是打印了搜索引擎的结果吗，
还是打印了引用的文章，谢谢
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
purzel (ds3ij2kl) 于 (Thu Oct 14 11:00:49 2010, 美东) 提到:
BLESS!
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
gkhjqx (连带Ponyo一起绿) 于 (Thu Oct 14 17:15:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
I think the key problem is the criterion of publication and contribution was
not met. So at least should focus on one of them using all your strength
and plus the review.
The low citation is really a killing point if you don't argue it right.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Dede123 (德德) 于 (Thu Oct 14 19:00:01 2010, 美东) 提到:
I mean the 4th citation is from scopous not google scholar.
Since I have low citation, I just list the author title, country in a table,
which might not be professional. I also attached all the citation materials
which cited my paper.
You 'd better check others post. Also this is just from 0001 officer. Others
might be different.
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
bmwcar (也————) 于 (Sun Oct 17 13:19:36 2010, 美东) 提到:
citation我看了这么多人的case，感觉还是非常非常重要的。我的只有40多，我专门花
了一段话来介绍本领域如何投入不足，特别是相对于类似的领域如何没钱，没钱就没
researcher，就没杂志没引用，就需要国际人士，这样搞一下也许有帮助
这个io感觉确实变态，再投一次吧。
cft
