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生物博后转行有哪些选择？

生物博后转行有哪些选择？# Biology - 生物学

h*e2014-07-27 07:07

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【以下文字转载自 Dreamer 讨论区】
发信人: joycee (买买提头号女魔头), 信区: Dreamer
标题: Re: 青山(viamedia)脸谱图
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 3 00:32:30 2011, 美东)
我跟viamedia关系不错，算是调侃吧
viamedia过去在中新当版主时候下手极狠，各个派别捣乱的一块儿砍头，
得罪的人不少
去。

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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女博后， 40岁。为了绿卡，做了10年，有些文章。小孩要人辅导学习，工作上受老
板气。太他妈的苦逼了。实在不想做博后了。想转行，请问，大家都有什么成功的例
子？
试过医药公司， HR连据你的信都懒得回。社区大学老师也试过，没回信。
有人建议去当中学生物老师，又有人告诫说那些学生很差很难教。不管怎么样，就
是想跳出生物博后这个火坑。
数据分析，这么大年纪了，还能学吗？学好了也很难找工作吧？
大家谈谈！

k*e2014-07-27 07:07

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一直不明白，他为什么被叫做青山？多好的名字

【在 h***e 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 Dreamer 讨论区】
: 发信人: joycee (买买提头号女魔头), 信区: Dreamer
: 标题: Re: 青山(viamedia)脸谱图
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 3 00:32:30 2011, 美东)
: 我跟viamedia关系不错，算是调侃吧
: viamedia过去在中新当版主时候下手极狠，各个派别捣乱的一块儿砍头，
: 得罪的人不少
: 去。

B*l2014-07-27 07:07

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以下是我个人建议
年纪40有点大转行还是有可能的。尽量不要和生物沾一点边要不绝对是另一个坑。
地点很重要, 如果open to relocation is a huge plus if u live in mid or
midwest redneck states.
数据分析没什么意思就是一人一个坑占了谁都不原意走当然你也很难找到工作找到
了工资也低。
既然都考虑到了数据了试试看CS, 在家工作也行 ppl might say CS是年轻饭, who
gives a fuck, if all ppl think is the job market for their major 20 years
before they even start learning, they will never accomplish anything anyway.
医药公司你没认识人apply都是浪费时间再加上你的年龄。
老师很难如果你中式英文口音没了可以考虑考虑中学老师 5,6万一年。大学老师一般
都要美国毕业的除非你很lucky. Again, depending on ur location.
Remember, anything associated with Bio is a 坑。 unless u like to work
overtime and be treated like shit and earning burger flipper salary, BUT
doing something "great" for the scientific community.
Give me a break lol.

s*s2014-07-27 07:07

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青山爱我，我爱青山
-yaz

m*u2014-07-27 07:07

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发此贴纯粹是为回答LZ的问题。不爱看的请飘过。
20年生物博后最靠谱的转行经验谈(He will share his experience in this
Wednesday's webinar. Let me know if you want join. Thanks.)
Dear Laotu Laoshi,
I am writing this letter to share with you a good news that I've got an
offer last Friday after my very first interview. This is a 4-round interview
full of technical and behavior questions, but I managed to impress the
recruiter, hiring manager, team members, and CIO. The job title is BI
consultant and the job will be mainly on dimensional data modeling (EDW) and
data integration solutions, which are my favorites, in financial area. At
the end I successfully negotiated the salary. Now I have accepted the offer
and I am ready to start next month.
Although this is my first interview, I have been through almost everything
during the process. But I have a feel that I know how to deal with all kinds
of situations, since I have been listening the class webinar every Wed. I
am not alone. You have built a great platform for us, and we are blessed to
be part of it.
I have been hanging around the field of biology for more than 20 years. And
I have been struggling at the dead end for a while, until I found USAlaotu
training, which brings me a lot of fun. The best part of the story is that
now I could easily rely on this to make a living, in a great way. If the
growth of the UsaLaotu training school means helping more struggling Chinese
families and individuals, I would pray for Laoshi to be a billionaire ASAP.
I will be more than happy to share with classmates on the webinar (
preferably next Wed) about my experience in studying, preparing, and
interviewing, including how I mentally and practically completed the
transition from a senior molecular biologist to a senior BI developer, how I
accommodated my previous experience into the role as a database analyst,
and how I became super confident to present myself as a BI expert. I have
learned all of these from USAlaotu, and I hope my sharing will benefit many
of us, especially those who have the similar background as me and still
suffering.
Best Regards,
11/30/2013 Core Package
1/19/2014 MSBI student

k*e2014-07-27 07:07

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我还以为是“我看青山多妩媚，料青山看我亦如是”呢。

【在 s**s 的大作中提到】

: 青山爱我，我爱青山
: -yaz

m*u2014-07-27 07:07

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学了生物，就要知生物的好。
生物人都有很好的逻辑思维能力，做什么工作都行。
你要是博后40多岁失业，仍可能再就业，很快就能找到好工作，不用同年轻人竞争。
能做生物就接着做，不想做了，就换个方向:Industry, Healthcare, Big bank,
Insurance, Research Institute, all need people with Bio + skills.
Yes, many people successfully did it, you can do the same too!
一段视频胜于千篇废话：视频:2014-02-26 189 周会祝贺咱国生物博士后夫妻转行，
双双进入数据库领域从事 BI 工作！！！
【宝典录像】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUy9BoZNKlo& feature=youtu.be
More Videos:
http://forum.usalaotu.com/index.php?board=40.0

j*e2014-07-27 07:07

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据说过去yaz,胖黑,viamedia分包子分赃不均，
yaz给viamedia起外号青山，给胖黑起名子善，这下好理解了吧

【在 k****e 的大作中提到】

: 一直不明白，他为什么被叫做青山？多好的名字

m*u2014-07-27 07:07

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生物博后转行有many选择s.
With a Bio Degree, plus Database analysis skills, many Bio people easily
found good high pay jobs in Health care, Medical industry.
And in many many other industries.
How do we know it? We have experience, we helped many Bio people found good
jobs, they are all very happy!
Read this email:
07/25/2014 Got the Offer.
Dear Laotu Laoshi,
I am writing this letter to share with you a good news that I've got an
offer last Friday after my very first interview. This is a 4-round interview
full of technical and behavior questions, but I managed to impress the
recruiter, hiring manager, team members, and CIO. The job title is BI
consultant and the job will be mainly on dimensional data modeling (EDW) and
data integration solutions, which are my favorites, in financial area. At
the end I successfully negotiated the salary. Now I have accepted the offer
and I am ready to start next month.
Although this is my first interview, I have been through almost everything
during the process. But I have a feel that I know how to deal with all kinds
of situations, since I have been listening the class webinar every Wed. I
am not alone. You have built a great platform for us, and we are blessed to
be part of it.
I have been hanging around the field of biology for more than 20 years. And
I have been struggling at the dead end for a while, until I found USAlaotu
training, which brings me a lot of fun. The best part of the story is that
now I could easily rely on this to make a living, in a great way. If the
growth of the UsaLaotu training school means helping more struggling Chinese
families and individuals, I would pray for Laoshi to be a billionaire ASAP.
I will be more than happy to share with classmates on the webinar (
preferably next Wed) about my experience in studying, preparing, and
interviewing, including how I mentally and practically completed the
transition from a senior molecular biologist to a senior BI developer, how I
accommodated my previous experience into the role as a database analyst,
and how I became super confident to present myself as a BI expert. I have
learned all of these from USAlaotu, and I hope my sharing will benefit many
of us, especially those who have the similar background as me and still
suffering.
Best Regards,
11/30/2013 Core Package
1/19/2014 MSBI student

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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虽然是字字惊心，但是我想说的是实情。深刻，谢谢！

anyway.

【在 B*****l 的大作中提到】

: 以下是我个人建议
: 年纪40有点大转行还是有可能的。尽量不要和生物沾一点边要不绝对是另一个坑。
: 地点很重要, 如果open to relocation is a huge plus if u live in mid or
: midwest redneck states.
: 数据分析没什么意思就是一人一个坑占了谁都不原意走当然你也很难找到工作找到
: 了工资也低。
: 既然都考虑到了数据了试试看CS, 在家工作也行 ppl might say CS是年轻饭, who
: gives a fuck, if all ppl think is the job market for their major 20 years
: before they even start learning, they will never accomplish anything anyway.
: 医药公司你没认识人apply都是浪费时间再加上你的年龄。

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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转会计如何？大概多长时间可以学完？学完好找工作吗？

m*u2014-07-27 07:07

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转会计 is a dump idea.
Accounting job is hard to find.
Even you find a accounting job, the pay is low and the politics are high.
We have many CPAs in our courses.

【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】

: 转会计如何？大概多长时间可以学完？学完好找工作吗？

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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Accounting has its benefits. The older you are, the more experience you have
. I saw some people get 100k annual income after 7-8 years work. Why
accounting is hard to find a job? every company need it.

m*u2014-07-27 07:07

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Nice, you have made your mind.
Go ahead do it.
You will know the truth from your own experience.
Good luck for job hunting!

have

【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】

: Accounting has its benefits. The older you are, the more experience you have
: . I saw some people get 100k annual income after 7-8 years work. Why
: accounting is hard to find a job? every company need it.

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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我还没有决定，只不过想知道有哪些好的选择，会计有它的好处坏处。有经验的人
欢迎指点。我想生物博后转行是个很POPULAR的话题。

m*u2014-07-27 07:07

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这个录像你不可不看：
2014-07-30 211次周会祝贺两位男同学拿到Offer!
特邀嘉宾：在北美大公司从事BI 工作的Ann！
二十年生物博士后 Dr. Jeff 转行经验同你谈，你不可不看的视频。
【视频宝典】http://forum.usalaotu.com/index.php?topic=4535.msg20175#msg20175

r*y2014-07-27 07:07

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我就是转了会计，我自己的经验，有两个难点：
1是第一份工相当难找，但是一旦入行，每天的经验都管用，越老越好找工作（跟
postdoc正好相反）。
2是当个普通的企业会计也没什么大意思，比当postdoc工资多不了多少，升职空间有限
，唯一的好处是稳定。
比较理想的途径是进4大镀金锻炼，再进企业起点高工资高，比起生物我认为转行是值
得的。

【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】

: 我还没有决定，只不过想知道有哪些好的选择，会计有它的好处坏处。有经验的人
: 欢迎指点。我想生物博后转行是个很POPULAR的话题。

p*62014-07-27 07:07

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如果比较会跟人打交道，可以考虑房产中介，recruiter等职业。
如果精力足够旺盛，学CS或者统计或者金融工程master。至少能快速赚钱。

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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Thanks risingsunzy for the real experience.
Realtor is good if it is a part time job. Finance is hard to get started if
not in Ivy League .
Why statistics is good? Is it easy to find job?

B*l2014-07-27 07:07

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didn't see this post for a while.
FOR ACCOUNTING
it's a good major, good outlook, can find job regardless of your age, or
just work from home. I have few accounting friends, the salary differs
dramatically: personal tax, corporate tax, auditing, bookkeeping.
one advise, DO NOT WORK IN AN ASIAN OWNED ACCOUNTING FIRM. hehe. good luck.
you are right, a finance degree from a non-ivy, is just like a MBA degree
from a state college ranked 100+.

r*d2014-07-27 07:07

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upup~~

N*r2014-07-27 07:07

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Thanks Biojail for the good advice.
有没有转行到中学当生物老师，到社区大学教生物的网友发表一下意见？有些州有
Teaching Fellows program, 两年之实习期过后后成为正式老师。好像进program不是
很难，难的是给那些学生上课。社区大学当老师应该要强一些，但是好像很难找到社
区大学的FULL TIME Faculty的工作。我知道在中学或者社区大学当老师的工资不高，
但是工作应该比较稳定吧。一年还有3个月的假期。