I bought a house just a few weeks back. The asking was 950K and the Zillow's estimate was $947K. It appears that the seller didn't overprice the property too much. She also has no mortgage and have been living in the same house for nearly 40 years. She wanted to downsize but was under no pressure to sell either. I started my offer at $770 and took about 5 weeks of back- and-forth to get the price to $850K. This was my 4th time buying a house. I have always found opportunities for negotiation on each of the properties I bought. As a seller, you could, of course reject any offer that you don't like but your house is also not the only house on sale.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : I bought a house just a few weeks back. The asking was 950K and the Zillow's : estimate was $947K. It appears that the seller didn't overprice the : property too much. She also has no mortgage and have been living in the same : house for nearly 40 years. She wanted to downsize but was under no pressure : to sell either. I started my offer at $770 and took about 5 weeks of back- : and-forth to get the price to $850K. : This was my 4th time buying a house. I have always found opportunities for : negotiation on each of the properties I bought. : As a seller, you could, of course reject any offer that you don't like but : your house is also not the only house on sale.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : I bought a house just a few weeks back. The asking was 950K and the Zillow's : estimate was $947K. It appears that the seller didn't overprice the : property too much. She also has no mortgage and have been living in the same : house for nearly 40 years. She wanted to downsize but was under no pressure : to sell either. I started my offer at $770 and took about 5 weeks of back- : and-forth to get the price to $850K. : This was my 4th time buying a house. I have always found opportunities for : negotiation on each of the properties I bought. : As a seller, you could, of course reject any offer that you don't like but : your house is also not the only house on sale.
Everyone's situation is different. There are sellers like you who would not give an inch, and there are sellers who would entertain any offer and willing to negotiate. I think you are wrong in generalizing all situation based on your own limited expereince. My philosophy is to give the lowest possible (20-25% down from Zillow's zestimate) initial offer and try to close the deal at 10% below Zestimate. It is easy, i mean very easy to raise your initial offer upon seller's rejection, but going down is never easy. Once the number is out, it could only go up. The first offer price is only used to test the seller. Once I get some color on the seller then I could plan the next step. If he ignores and rejects it, we can always increase the offer. The seller would not refuse to deal with you ever again simply because your initial offer is too low. That's just not logical. It never hurts to try the lowest you can, especially on the initial offer.
You may be able to get something off. I had also tried it on every purchase. Sometimes it would work, but sometimes the seller would just tell you that the condition of the house is already priced in. You're not buying a new house anyway... It is hard to argue how you would expect on brand new roof. But it never hurts to try. Even a few hundred would help. The worst case is that you don't get anything. It is a simplw question to ask, takes 10 seconds. Why not.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : You may be able to get something off. I had also tried it on every purchase. : Sometimes it would work, but sometimes the seller would just tell you that : the condition of the house is already priced in. You're not buying a new : house anyway... It is hard to argue how you would expect on brand new roof. : But it never hurts to try. Even a few hundred would help. The worst case is : that you don't get anything. It is a simplw question to ask, takes 10 : seconds. Why not.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : You may be able to get something off. I had also tried it on every purchase. : Sometimes it would work, but sometimes the seller would just tell you that : the condition of the house is already priced in. You're not buying a new : house anyway... It is hard to argue how you would expect on brand new roof. : But it never hurts to try. Even a few hundred would help. The worst case is : that you don't get anything. It is a simplw question to ask, takes 10 : seconds. Why not.
negotiation is an art. So you must use your words carefully to not to offend the seller while getting your points across. If you plan to just go strainght to the seller and tell him that his roof is sh*t and you need to get $10K off. The door would be shut before the negotiation actually begins. Playing hardball never works well in this situation. Unless there is something seriously wrong I would tell the seller that his house is great but there are a few things that are potentially very costly to fix. You have to make it clear to the seller that you're not nippicking but the problem is obvious to everyone and everyone who sees the house would raise the same issue to him. Once the seller acknowledges the issue, you would then ask him if you two could work out something together. Never asking for $$$ off directly. Make the seller thinks that you're with him on this issue and willing to work something out. The key here is to "work something out together". If you careful with your words, the worst case would be the seller ignores you on your request. He would not tell you to go away and refuse to sell the house to you.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : Everyone's situation is different. There are sellers like you who would not : give an inch, and there are sellers who would entertain any offer and : willing to negotiate. I think you are wrong in generalizing all situation based : on your own limited expereince. : My philosophy is to give the lowest possible (20-25% down from Zillow's : zestimate) initial offer and try to close the deal at 10% below Zestimate. : It is easy, i mean very easy to raise your initial offer upon seller's : rejection, but going down is never easy. Once the number is out, it could : only go up. The first offer price is only used to test the seller. Once I : get some color on the seller then I could plan the next step. If he ignores
j*k
72 楼
In new development communities, what you say may be true. New development or condo buildings are all pretty much the same, same footage, same layout, same everything. It is easier to price. But when you look at mature communities, such as Scarsdale, Rye, and Great Neck around the NY metro area, all house are very different and were built in different times. There is no standards for pricing. There are also a lot of old people selling their homes the first time after 40-50 years. They are not as tech savvy and listen a lot to their agent. Once you get the agent working for you, it would be easy to get the price down? How to have the listing agent work for you? Easy, don;t have your agent and let him have the full commission.
没特殊情况,新开出来的也差不到 哪去,几千不算差,那点小伎俩想值几万不容易。
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : ZILLOW的东西最多当参考看看,你再精,别人也不傻,同一小区最近别人怎么卖的,没特殊情况,新开出来的也差不到哪去,几千不算差,那点小伎俩想值几万不容易。 : : not : based : ignores
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : In new development communities, what you say may be true. New development or : condo buildings are all : pretty much the same, same footage, same layout, same everything. It is : easier to price. : But when you look at mature communities, such as Scarsdale, Rye, and Great : Neck around the NY metro area, : all house are very different and were built in different times. There is no : standards for pricing. : There are also a lot of old people selling their homes the first time after : 40-50 years. They are not as tech
j*k
74 楼
properties are being sold/bought each day in these communities. But housings in these communities are not the cookie cutter houses that one's used to see. Pricing could vary greatly for the same footage space. You could get good deals if negotiate smartly.
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : 没有几个房子是在全新小区的,相对一个区域的房子年限差不多,新翻修有翻修的价, : 老的有老的价,年限有年限差价,难道你买的区就是从没人买过的?理论好奇怪。 : : or : no : after
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : properties are being sold/bought each day in these communities. But housings : in these communities are not : the cookie cutter houses that one's used to see. Pricing could vary greatly : for the same footage space. You : could get good deals if negotiate smartly.
w*t
76 楼
啥?我直接可以去找listing agent?
or no after
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : In new development communities, what you say may be true. New development or : condo buildings are all : pretty much the same, same footage, same layout, same everything. It is : easier to price. : But when you look at mature communities, such as Scarsdale, Rye, and Great : Neck around the NY metro area, : all house are very different and were built in different times. There is no : standards for pricing. : There are also a lot of old people selling their homes the first time after : 40-50 years. They are not as tech
q*2
77 楼
当然可以,你可以直接打电话给seller agent request a showing
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】 : 啥?我直接可以去找listing agent? : : or : no : after
w*t
78 楼
redfin上没有seller agent联系方式。。。这个怎么拿到呢?
【在 q*****2 的大作中提到】 : 当然可以,你可以直接打电话给seller agent request a showing
I bought a house just a few weeks back. The asking was 950K and the Zillow's estimate was $947K. It appears that the seller didn't overprice the property too much. She also has no mortgage and have been living in the same house for nearly 40 years. She wanted to downsize but was under no pressure to sell either. I started my offer at $770 and took about 5 weeks of back- and-forth to get the price to $850K. This was my 4th time buying a house. I have always found opportunities for negotiation on each of the properties I bought. As a seller, you could, of course reject any offer that you don't like but your house is also not the only house on sale.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : I bought a house just a few weeks back. The asking was 950K and the Zillow's : estimate was $947K. It appears that the seller didn't overprice the : property too much. She also has no mortgage and have been living in the same : house for nearly 40 years. She wanted to downsize but was under no pressure : to sell either. I started my offer at $770 and took about 5 weeks of back- : and-forth to get the price to $850K. : This was my 4th time buying a house. I have always found opportunities for : negotiation on each of the properties I bought. : As a seller, you could, of course reject any offer that you don't like but : your house is also not the only house on sale.
Everyone's situation is different. There are sellers like you who would not give an inch, and there are sellers who would entertain any offer and willing to negotiate. I think you are wrong in generalizing all situation based on your own limited expereince. My philosophy is to give the lowest possible (20-25% down from Zillow's zestimate) initial offer and try to close the deal at 10% below Zestimate. It is easy, i mean very easy to raise your initial offer upon seller's rejection, but going down is never easy. Once the number is out, it could only go up. The first offer price is only used to test the seller. Once I get some color on the seller then I could plan the next step. If he ignores and rejects it, we can always increase the offer. The seller would not refuse to deal with you ever again simply because your initial offer is too low. That's just not logical. It never hurts to try the lowest you can, especially on the initial offer.
You may be able to get something off. I had also tried it on every purchase. Sometimes it would work, but sometimes the seller would just tell you that the condition of the house is already priced in. You're not buying a new house anyway... It is hard to argue how you would expect on brand new roof. But it never hurts to try. Even a few hundred would help. The worst case is that you don't get anything. It is a simplw question to ask, takes 10 seconds. Why not.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : You may be able to get something off. I had also tried it on every purchase. : Sometimes it would work, but sometimes the seller would just tell you that : the condition of the house is already priced in. You're not buying a new : house anyway... It is hard to argue how you would expect on brand new roof. : But it never hurts to try. Even a few hundred would help. The worst case is : that you don't get anything. It is a simplw question to ask, takes 10 : seconds. Why not.
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : You may be able to get something off. I had also tried it on every purchase. : Sometimes it would work, but sometimes the seller would just tell you that : the condition of the house is already priced in. You're not buying a new : house anyway... It is hard to argue how you would expect on brand new roof. : But it never hurts to try. Even a few hundred would help. The worst case is : that you don't get anything. It is a simplw question to ask, takes 10 : seconds. Why not.
negotiation is an art. So you must use your words carefully to not to offend the seller while getting your points across. If you plan to just go strainght to the seller and tell him that his roof is sh*t and you need to get $10K off. The door would be shut before the negotiation actually begins. Playing hardball never works well in this situation. Unless there is something seriously wrong I would tell the seller that his house is great but there are a few things that are potentially very costly to fix. You have to make it clear to the seller that you're not nippicking but the problem is obvious to everyone and everyone who sees the house would raise the same issue to him. Once the seller acknowledges the issue, you would then ask him if you two could work out something together. Never asking for $$$ off directly. Make the seller thinks that you're with him on this issue and willing to work something out. The key here is to "work something out together". If you careful with your words, the worst case would be the seller ignores you on your request. He would not tell you to go away and refuse to sell the house to you.
In new development communities, what you say may be true. New development or condo buildings are all pretty much the same, same footage, same layout, same everything. It is easier to price. But when you look at mature communities, such as Scarsdale, Rye, and Great Neck around the NY metro area, all house are very different and were built in different times. There is no standards for pricing. There are also a lot of old people selling their homes the first time after 40-50 years. They are not as tech savvy and listen a lot to their agent. Once you get the agent working for you, it would be easy to get the price down? How to have the listing agent work for you? Easy, don;t have your agent and let him have the full commission.
没特殊情况,新开出来的也差不到 哪去,几千不算差,那点小伎俩想值几万不容易。
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : ZILLOW的东西最多当参考看看,你再精,别人也不傻,同一小区最近别人怎么卖的,没特殊情况,新开出来的也差不到哪去,几千不算差,那点小伎俩想值几万不容易。 : : not : based : ignores
j*k
143 楼
properties are being sold/bought each day in these communities. But housings in these communities are not the cookie cutter houses that one's used to see. Pricing could vary greatly for the same footage space. You could get good deals if negotiate smartly.
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】 : 没有几个房子是在全新小区的,相对一个区域的房子年限差不多,新翻修有翻修的价, : 老的有老的价,年限有年限差价,难道你买的区就是从没人买过的?理论好奇怪。 : : or : no : after
w*t
144 楼
啥?我直接可以去找listing agent?
or no after
【在 j***k 的大作中提到】 : In new development communities, what you say may be true. New development or : condo buildings are all : pretty much the same, same footage, same layout, same everything. It is : easier to price. : But when you look at mature communities, such as Scarsdale, Rye, and Great : Neck around the NY metro area, : all house are very different and were built in different times. There is no : standards for pricing. : There are also a lot of old people selling their homes the first time after : 40-50 years. They are not as tech
q*2
145 楼
当然可以,你可以直接打电话给seller agent request a showing
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】 : 啥?我直接可以去找listing agent? : : or : no : after
w*t
146 楼
redfin上没有seller agent联系方式。。。这个怎么拿到呢?
【在 q*****2 的大作中提到】 : 当然可以,你可以直接打电话给seller agent request a showing