R*9
2 楼
唉,已经4个星期了,NSC,还没收到FP Notice,是不是不正常啊?有跟我一样的吗?很
衰!
只能在这里求安慰,求祝福!也祝福大家!!
衰!
只能在这里求安慰,求祝福!也祝福大家!!
E*V
3 楼
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: gengwg (正在加载...), 信区: Military
标 题: 从“heart”和“mind”看中西文化之差
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 3 21:41:28 2011, 美东)
从“heart”和“mind”看中西文化之差 2011-05-27 17:39:33
翻译之难,我深有体会。有的时候“卡壳”,不仅仅是语言问题,更多的是文化差异。
比如,英语中“heart”和“mind”如何正确用汉语来表述就是一个问题。
一般而言,“heart”和“mind”都可以译成“心”——中国文化中二者是合而为一的
,但是,在西方文化中它们却有截然不同的内涵,语言上也是不能互换的。
就英语而言,“heart”与情感和道德有关,“mind”则主宰思维。
I thank you from the bottomof my heart.
She hugged the baby to herheart.
He has his heart in hiswork.
She has a heart of gold.
……
以上这些句子都带有强烈的感情色彩,虽然都是“心”,但是决不能用“mind”替代。
He is absent minded.
Tell me your mind.
A Beautiful Mind
The public mind
……
这些句子中“mind”的中文翻译也都是“心”,但不具备感情色彩,只和思维有关。电
影A Beautiful Mind是赞扬Nash的思维和为科学做出的贡献,并不是他的情感上的“心
灵”,A Beautiful Heart 才是“美丽的心灵”,所以这个电影的中文翻译并不准确。
有时,mind和heart语言上虽然可以互换,但意义不同。
You are on my mind.
You are in my heart.
仔细体会就不难发现,这两个句子的含义是不同的,一个是“我没忘了你(或你托付的
事)”,另一个是“我思念着你(爱着你)”。
由此可见,西方人的思维和情感是可以分离的,这对于重“人情”的中国人来说,有些
不可思议,但我们不明白这恰恰是西方文化巨大的优点。
西方家庭成员可以有不同的信仰或政见,隶属不同的党派团体,但能够和平共处,议会
里执政党和反对党开会时可以拍桌子瞪眼,会后可以坐下来谈笑风生一起喝咖啡。
中国人就难了。不同信仰不同党派意味着众叛亲离,意味着你死我活。想当年一个家庭
中的亲兄弟因为国共之争而天各一方,文革中更是“大义灭亲”。于是就不难理解为什
么只有在韩国和台湾的民主里才出现两党之间拉头发,扇耳光,扒衣服这样角斗场上才
会出现的辩论方式,很难想象如此打斗的双方还能坐下来一起品茶。
因为,中国文化的“心”主宰一切,包括思维,中国人将思维、智力、意志甚至判断力
情感化,所以即使意见的不一致也是“伤心”(伤感情)的事。比如晚辈不顺从长辈的
意志,长辈的心脏病是随时要发作的,至于胡风也好,彭德怀也罢,不能和最高领袖“
同心”,就不“同德”,必将你死我活——做不成朋友,便是敌人。
所以中国人喜欢“和谐”,喜欢“一致”,喜欢“和合”,喜欢“统一思想”,“不同
”就表示“不友好”,所以任何的分歧都会导致对抗的敌我矛盾。
到了今天,我们还把“持不同政见者”关进大牢,这就是说:你在意见上和我不同,就
是不友好的“伤感情”的行为——于是产生了“非我族类,其心必异”这样荒唐的逻辑
。难怪连孔夫子都说:“非吾徒也,小子鸣鼓而攻之可也”。
“小子鸣鼓而攻”也就意味着凡是我一派的,就要帮助我打击我的“敌人”,否则你就
是叛徒、“X奸”。于是中国人的社会充满了勾心斗角尔虞我诈,拉帮结派,明争暗斗
也是不朽的“特色”。
这种“特色”在华人网络论坛里也可略见一斑。几乎每个论坛都会分成甲派乙派,每派
里又会有A帮B帮——“同类”的,相互赞扬,再平乏的帖子都要赞一下,“顶好文!”
,其实我们有的时候并不知道此文好在哪里,只因为是朋友写的,哪怕是一堆骨头也能
挑出几块鸡蛋丝来。我们常常甚至连帖子还没有读一个字就可以“先顶再看”。“非我
族”的,明明是一篇好文章,则一个劲儿鸡蛋里找骨头,尽量讽刺挖苦——所谓屁股决
定脑袋,其实是情感的heart淹没了思维的mind。
这样一来,意见的不一致很容易产生敌对,不仅仅是政治,就是谈教育,谈婚姻,谈医
疗,谈文化,都会引来激烈的争吵,最后总有一方会lost their mind,人身攻击,秽语
谩骂,双方势不两立……。尚没有lost mind 的,也很少能理性地面对困境,要么象古
代士大夫那样跳江自尽(消失了)以示清高,要么另立山头,躲进“桃花源”。
我常常感叹,我们上网来干什么?
我们为什么不能学会在分歧中共存,理性面对挫折?我们的heart为什么老是要被mind
左右?我们为什么不能在互动中共进?在碰撞中求得和谐?至少,做不了朋友也不一定
就是敌人嘛!
我们应该明白,网络只是我们表达自己的观点,交流自己思想的场所,这里只涉及mind
, heart完全可以留在现实社会,留在家里。
所以,我只在意网上的观点和思想,对于朋友,有话还是要说,有反对意见还是要提,
至于别人的流言蜚语——Never Mind! 。
我不介意任何人言之有物的批评,至于我反对你,不是因为我蔑视你,更不是因为我憎
恨你。虽然我的mind不和你同道,但是You are on my mind。我反对你,仅仅因为:我
在思考。
朋友,我在思考——Do you mind?
[打印]
由悟空孙张贴 @ 2011-05-27 17:39:33 (3765)
发信人: gengwg (正在加载...), 信区: Military
标 题: 从“heart”和“mind”看中西文化之差
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 3 21:41:28 2011, 美东)
从“heart”和“mind”看中西文化之差 2011-05-27 17:39:33
翻译之难,我深有体会。有的时候“卡壳”,不仅仅是语言问题,更多的是文化差异。
比如,英语中“heart”和“mind”如何正确用汉语来表述就是一个问题。
一般而言,“heart”和“mind”都可以译成“心”——中国文化中二者是合而为一的
,但是,在西方文化中它们却有截然不同的内涵,语言上也是不能互换的。
就英语而言,“heart”与情感和道德有关,“mind”则主宰思维。
I thank you from the bottomof my heart.
She hugged the baby to herheart.
He has his heart in hiswork.
She has a heart of gold.
……
以上这些句子都带有强烈的感情色彩,虽然都是“心”,但是决不能用“mind”替代。
He is absent minded.
Tell me your mind.
A Beautiful Mind
The public mind
……
这些句子中“mind”的中文翻译也都是“心”,但不具备感情色彩,只和思维有关。电
影A Beautiful Mind是赞扬Nash的思维和为科学做出的贡献,并不是他的情感上的“心
灵”,A Beautiful Heart 才是“美丽的心灵”,所以这个电影的中文翻译并不准确。
有时,mind和heart语言上虽然可以互换,但意义不同。
You are on my mind.
You are in my heart.
仔细体会就不难发现,这两个句子的含义是不同的,一个是“我没忘了你(或你托付的
事)”,另一个是“我思念着你(爱着你)”。
由此可见,西方人的思维和情感是可以分离的,这对于重“人情”的中国人来说,有些
不可思议,但我们不明白这恰恰是西方文化巨大的优点。
西方家庭成员可以有不同的信仰或政见,隶属不同的党派团体,但能够和平共处,议会
里执政党和反对党开会时可以拍桌子瞪眼,会后可以坐下来谈笑风生一起喝咖啡。
中国人就难了。不同信仰不同党派意味着众叛亲离,意味着你死我活。想当年一个家庭
中的亲兄弟因为国共之争而天各一方,文革中更是“大义灭亲”。于是就不难理解为什
么只有在韩国和台湾的民主里才出现两党之间拉头发,扇耳光,扒衣服这样角斗场上才
会出现的辩论方式,很难想象如此打斗的双方还能坐下来一起品茶。
因为,中国文化的“心”主宰一切,包括思维,中国人将思维、智力、意志甚至判断力
情感化,所以即使意见的不一致也是“伤心”(伤感情)的事。比如晚辈不顺从长辈的
意志,长辈的心脏病是随时要发作的,至于胡风也好,彭德怀也罢,不能和最高领袖“
同心”,就不“同德”,必将你死我活——做不成朋友,便是敌人。
所以中国人喜欢“和谐”,喜欢“一致”,喜欢“和合”,喜欢“统一思想”,“不同
”就表示“不友好”,所以任何的分歧都会导致对抗的敌我矛盾。
到了今天,我们还把“持不同政见者”关进大牢,这就是说:你在意见上和我不同,就
是不友好的“伤感情”的行为——于是产生了“非我族类,其心必异”这样荒唐的逻辑
。难怪连孔夫子都说:“非吾徒也,小子鸣鼓而攻之可也”。
“小子鸣鼓而攻”也就意味着凡是我一派的,就要帮助我打击我的“敌人”,否则你就
是叛徒、“X奸”。于是中国人的社会充满了勾心斗角尔虞我诈,拉帮结派,明争暗斗
也是不朽的“特色”。
这种“特色”在华人网络论坛里也可略见一斑。几乎每个论坛都会分成甲派乙派,每派
里又会有A帮B帮——“同类”的,相互赞扬,再平乏的帖子都要赞一下,“顶好文!”
,其实我们有的时候并不知道此文好在哪里,只因为是朋友写的,哪怕是一堆骨头也能
挑出几块鸡蛋丝来。我们常常甚至连帖子还没有读一个字就可以“先顶再看”。“非我
族”的,明明是一篇好文章,则一个劲儿鸡蛋里找骨头,尽量讽刺挖苦——所谓屁股决
定脑袋,其实是情感的heart淹没了思维的mind。
这样一来,意见的不一致很容易产生敌对,不仅仅是政治,就是谈教育,谈婚姻,谈医
疗,谈文化,都会引来激烈的争吵,最后总有一方会lost their mind,人身攻击,秽语
谩骂,双方势不两立……。尚没有lost mind 的,也很少能理性地面对困境,要么象古
代士大夫那样跳江自尽(消失了)以示清高,要么另立山头,躲进“桃花源”。
我常常感叹,我们上网来干什么?
我们为什么不能学会在分歧中共存,理性面对挫折?我们的heart为什么老是要被mind
左右?我们为什么不能在互动中共进?在碰撞中求得和谐?至少,做不了朋友也不一定
就是敌人嘛!
我们应该明白,网络只是我们表达自己的观点,交流自己思想的场所,这里只涉及mind
, heart完全可以留在现实社会,留在家里。
所以,我只在意网上的观点和思想,对于朋友,有话还是要说,有反对意见还是要提,
至于别人的流言蜚语——Never Mind! 。
我不介意任何人言之有物的批评,至于我反对你,不是因为我蔑视你,更不是因为我憎
恨你。虽然我的mind不和你同道,但是You are on my mind。我反对你,仅仅因为:我
在思考。
朋友,我在思考——Do you mind?
[打印]
由悟空孙张贴 @ 2011-05-27 17:39:33 (3765)
t*l
4 楼
http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
We are currently looking for a Postdoc with a broad background in human
molecular immunology, cell biology and bioinformatics. The successful
candidate will have an interest in translational research and will be hard
working, of impeccable integrity, have excellent past training and be able
to learn new methods and procedures quickly.
We offer a fast-paced working environment, great colleagues and a best-in-
class benefits package, including health, dental, vision and life insurance.
After-tax income is about 30,000 RMB per year.
Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
We are currently looking for a Postdoc with a broad background in human
molecular immunology, cell biology and bioinformatics. The successful
candidate will have an interest in translational research and will be hard
working, of impeccable integrity, have excellent past training and be able
to learn new methods and procedures quickly.
We offer a fast-paced working environment, great colleagues and a best-in-
class benefits package, including health, dental, vision and life insurance.
After-tax income is about 30,000 RMB per year.
l*p
5 楼
我去年试过,没算。
l*n
6 楼
Bless!!!
s*s
7 楼
这才叫大手笔:一次招十个。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
s*d
9 楼
bless!30天之后,可以打电话去询问
X*o
10 楼
你叫人家怎么活? 不是 typo 吧?
R*9
11 楼
多谢!!
Bless!!
Bless!!
j*x
12 楼
国内好像就是这个价
R*9
13 楼
多谢!!
Bless!!
Bless!!
r*t
14 楼
烧锅炉都能挣多点吧
c*i
15 楼
bless
C*h
16 楼
这个应该是typo吧,不太可能的。
客观地说,国内博后工资应该在8-20万之间,取决于哪个单位,另外还有福利。
国内基本还是缺少博后的,一般好一点的毕业都出国了。
我知道的几个学校一般是10万,12万,上科大是15-18万,清华的几个有18万的。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
客观地说,国内博后工资应该在8-20万之间,取决于哪个单位,另外还有福利。
国内基本还是缺少博后的,一般好一点的毕业都出国了。
我知道的几个学校一般是10万,12万,上科大是15-18万,清华的几个有18万的。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
T*i
18 楼
呵呵,10个。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
s*y
20 楼
知道为啥美帝的破砖窑给出3万刀一年的剥尸猴,国内奴隶还乌泱乌泱的来抢了吧
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
c*n
21 楼
Bless!
s*y
22 楼
After-tax income is about 30,000 RMB per year.
显然不是typo
注意人家提的是税后。
要是少了一个0的话,税前工资也太高了。秒杀国内的其他工种了。别说啥破教授特聘,
就是连高级程序猿,四大的都被干死了。
那还不得把庙门挤破,万国的剥尸猴都会去抢
【在 C*********h 的大作中提到】
: 这个应该是typo吧,不太可能的。
: 客观地说,国内博后工资应该在8-20万之间,取决于哪个单位,另外还有福利。
: 国内基本还是缺少博后的,一般好一点的毕业都出国了。
: 我知道的几个学校一般是10万,12万,上科大是15-18万,清华的几个有18万的。
:
: Zhiming
: is
: immunorejection
显然不是typo
注意人家提的是税后。
要是少了一个0的话,税前工资也太高了。秒杀国内的其他工种了。别说啥破教授特聘,
就是连高级程序猿,四大的都被干死了。
那还不得把庙门挤破,万国的剥尸猴都会去抢
【在 C*********h 的大作中提到】
: 这个应该是typo吧,不太可能的。
: 客观地说,国内博后工资应该在8-20万之间,取决于哪个单位,另外还有福利。
: 国内基本还是缺少博后的,一般好一点的毕业都出国了。
: 我知道的几个学校一般是10万,12万,上科大是15-18万,清华的几个有18万的。
:
: Zhiming
: is
: immunorejection
R*9
23 楼
Thanks.
Bless All on this board!
Bless All on this board!
W*o
24 楼
your ID should be 'troll'. LOL
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
R*9
25 楼
Just got email notice from my attorney! finally!!
Bless Bless!
Bless Bless!
s*d
27 楼
打指纹通知怎么会寄给你的律师?
p*n
28 楼
貌似深圳市政府对博士后每年有不少补贴吧
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
R*9
29 楼
both i and my attorney get them. Last time when i got the 485 file receipt,
they got too.
they got too.
t*e
31 楼
gx
j*i
32 楼
深圳薄厚的收入加上深圳市的补贴在20万左右。这个30,000RMB确实很诡异啊。我觉得
既然发在Naturejob上,应该是30,000美刀。
既然发在Naturejob上,应该是30,000美刀。
x*l
33 楼
今天刚收到律师通知打指纹,我是9/30递交的,看了打指纹notice,其实notice date
是10/8,可能律师早收到了,拖了几天才通知,和你的律师check一下。
是10/8,可能律师早收到了,拖了几天才通知,和你的律师check一下。
R*9
35 楼
我今天回到家,看到移民局寄给我的notice,notice date is 10/10. 应该是移民局给
我和律师都发了notice,我们同一天收到。他们收到就告诉我了。
你很快了,我9/18的RD,notice date都10/10了:))!
我和律师都发了notice,我们同一天收到。他们收到就告诉我了。
你很快了,我9/18的RD,notice date都10/10了:))!
R*9
37 楼
我今天回到家,看到移民局寄给我的notice,notice date is 10/10. 应该是移民局给
我和律师都发了notice,我们同一天收到。他们收到就告诉我了。
你很快了,我9/18的RD,notice date都10/10了:))!
我和律师都发了notice,我们同一天收到。他们收到就告诉我了。
你很快了,我9/18的RD,notice date都10/10了:))!
D*a
39 楼
看错了,还以为是30万。
j*i
40 楼
很少有人会回去做博士后的。下面这个是两年前先进技术研究院某老板的招聘广告,我
自己也去深圳交流过,所以知道一些。深圳是博士后补贴是阳光收入。
待遇:应聘者年薪为15-19万元(含深圳市博士后生活补贴每年8万元,两年16万元)
,还可获得:(1)深圳市人才安居工程每月1000元的住房补贴;(2)合一康公司每月
1500元的生活补贴;(3)联合实验室季度和年度绩效奖励;获得专利申请或授权或其
它重要成果者的特别奖;(4)缴纳五险一金,按月发放用餐补助;
不过,各位都奔着当大老板去的,不会看得上 (PI税前30万应该是有的)。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 你干脆来个海归版的标准回帖,灰色收入的了
: 让博士后彻底牛逼到底,除了明码标价还有灰色收入,或者各种看不见的福利
自己也去深圳交流过,所以知道一些。深圳是博士后补贴是阳光收入。
待遇:应聘者年薪为15-19万元(含深圳市博士后生活补贴每年8万元,两年16万元)
,还可获得:(1)深圳市人才安居工程每月1000元的住房补贴;(2)合一康公司每月
1500元的生活补贴;(3)联合实验室季度和年度绩效奖励;获得专利申请或授权或其
它重要成果者的特别奖;(4)缴纳五险一金,按月发放用餐补助;
不过,各位都奔着当大老板去的,不会看得上 (PI税前30万应该是有的)。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 你干脆来个海归版的标准回帖,灰色收入的了
: 让博士后彻底牛逼到底,除了明码标价还有灰色收入,或者各种看不见的福利
T*U
41 楼
十五年前深圳,这钱只能糊口,都养不了家。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
s*y
42 楼
当然不是typo了。
十个博士后一年30万了。不过,可以申请深圳的低保了。
十个博士后一年30万了。不过,可以申请深圳的低保了。
s*e
44 楼
丫是医学管理博士
Zhiming Cai, Han nationality, Ph.D. in Management and Medicine, Professor,
Ph.D. supervisor. He is the current president of Shenzhen Second People’s
Hospital(The First Affiliated Hospital of Shenzhen University), the
director of the Genitourinary Institution of Shenzhen University. He is the
Principal Investigator of 17 national fundings including"973", "863",
National Nature Science Foundation of China (NSFC), published more than 160
articles, in which over 50 was included in Science Citation Index (SCI),
including 3 papers published in Nature Genetics, Nature Biotechnology as the
first author or corresponding author.
这是百度介绍:
http://baike.baidu.com/subview/2334179/6269080.htm
蔡志明(深圳市第二人民医院院长)
1996年-1999年任深圳市罗湖区卫生局副局长兼罗湖医院院长,1999年-2010年任深圳北
京大学香港科技大学医学中心副主任兼北京大学深圳医院院长,2010年-现在任深圳市
第二人民医院(深圳大学第一附属医院)院长。
在医学方面师从中山医科大学梅骅教授和刘唐彬教授,主要研究方向为泌尿生殖系统肿
瘤、男性不育的发病机制和转化医学研究。作为负责人先后承担国家“973”、“863”
、国家自然科学基金、博士点基金等研究项目15项,发表SCI论文72篇,包括在Nature
、Nature Genetics、Nature Biotechnology 和Cell 等国际著名刊物发表论文7篇,其
中第1作者或通讯作者4篇,出版著作4部,获得国家、省、市奖项9项。在管理学方面师
从同济医科大学卢祖询教授,主要研究方向是现代医院管理,发表论文36篇,出版著作
6部,包括主编著作《经营医院》(上下册),(中国科技出版社出版,78万字),获得国
家、省、市奖项8项。分别培养医学和管理学博士(后) 21名,硕士35名。
主要社会及学术兼职、学术荣誉包括:中国医院协会常务理事,广东省医院协会副会长
,广东省男性遗传与生殖重点实验室主任,深圳市中西医结合学会会长,深圳市医学会
生殖专业委员会主任委员,深圳大学泌尿生殖研究所所长,教育部“长江学者计划”、
中组部“千人计划”等高层次人才评审专家,国内外多个学术刊物主编、副主编、编委
,Nature Genetics 等国际著名刊物审稿专家。2002年分别获享受深圳市政府和国务院
政府特殊津贴专家荣誉,2002年和2012年分别获全国优秀院长荣誉。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming Cai, Han nationality, Ph.D. in Management and Medicine, Professor,
Ph.D. supervisor. He is the current president of Shenzhen Second People’s
Hospital(The First Affiliated Hospital of Shenzhen University), the
director of the Genitourinary Institution of Shenzhen University. He is the
Principal Investigator of 17 national fundings including"973", "863",
National Nature Science Foundation of China (NSFC), published more than 160
articles, in which over 50 was included in Science Citation Index (SCI),
including 3 papers published in Nature Genetics, Nature Biotechnology as the
first author or corresponding author.
这是百度介绍:
http://baike.baidu.com/subview/2334179/6269080.htm
蔡志明(深圳市第二人民医院院长)
1996年-1999年任深圳市罗湖区卫生局副局长兼罗湖医院院长,1999年-2010年任深圳北
京大学香港科技大学医学中心副主任兼北京大学深圳医院院长,2010年-现在任深圳市
第二人民医院(深圳大学第一附属医院)院长。
在医学方面师从中山医科大学梅骅教授和刘唐彬教授,主要研究方向为泌尿生殖系统肿
瘤、男性不育的发病机制和转化医学研究。作为负责人先后承担国家“973”、“863”
、国家自然科学基金、博士点基金等研究项目15项,发表SCI论文72篇,包括在Nature
、Nature Genetics、Nature Biotechnology 和Cell 等国际著名刊物发表论文7篇,其
中第1作者或通讯作者4篇,出版著作4部,获得国家、省、市奖项9项。在管理学方面师
从同济医科大学卢祖询教授,主要研究方向是现代医院管理,发表论文36篇,出版著作
6部,包括主编著作《经营医院》(上下册),(中国科技出版社出版,78万字),获得国
家、省、市奖项8项。分别培养医学和管理学博士(后) 21名,硕士35名。
主要社会及学术兼职、学术荣誉包括:中国医院协会常务理事,广东省医院协会副会长
,广东省男性遗传与生殖重点实验室主任,深圳市中西医结合学会会长,深圳市医学会
生殖专业委员会主任委员,深圳大学泌尿生殖研究所所长,教育部“长江学者计划”、
中组部“千人计划”等高层次人才评审专家,国内外多个学术刊物主编、副主编、编委
,Nature Genetics 等国际著名刊物审稿专家。2002年分别获享受深圳市政府和国务院
政府特殊津贴专家荣誉,2002年和2012年分别获全国优秀院长荣誉。
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
s*y
45 楼
尼玛看完真的是无语了,那个老王估计是一辈子都毁了,告状肯定不了了之。
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 丫是医学管理博士
: Zhiming Cai, Han nationality, Ph.D. in Management and Medicine, Professor,
: Ph.D. supervisor. He is the current president of Shenzhen Second People’s
: Hospital(The First Affiliated Hospital of Shenzhen University), the
: director of the Genitourinary Institution of Shenzhen University. He is the
: Principal Investigator of 17 national fundings including"973", "863",
: National Nature Science Foundation of China (NSFC), published more than 160
: articles, in which over 50 was included in Science Citation Index (SCI),
: including 3 papers published in Nature Genetics, Nature Biotechnology as the
: first author or corresponding author.
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 丫是医学管理博士
: Zhiming Cai, Han nationality, Ph.D. in Management and Medicine, Professor,
: Ph.D. supervisor. He is the current president of Shenzhen Second People’s
: Hospital(The First Affiliated Hospital of Shenzhen University), the
: director of the Genitourinary Institution of Shenzhen University. He is the
: Principal Investigator of 17 national fundings including"973", "863",
: National Nature Science Foundation of China (NSFC), published more than 160
: articles, in which over 50 was included in Science Citation Index (SCI),
: including 3 papers published in Nature Genetics, Nature Biotechnology as the
: first author or corresponding author.
j*i
46 楼
他的那些nature系列文章好像是用医院的资源跟华大合作来的。
Z*g
47 楼
真狠,老逼养的。
j*i
48 楼
蔡院长自己的年薪100应该没问题吧 唉 如果给博士后30000做人也太不厚道了
s*n
49 楼
d*4
52 楼
瞎了,隔壁实验室回苏大招的薄后都给10w人刀
Z*5
55 楼
应该是少写了个0吧。深圳的博后一般都15~25万了。3万哪好意思贴出来。
x*e
56 楼
应该不是typo
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
Zhiming
is
immunorejection
【在 t**l 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/510663-postdoc-in
: Ten postdoctoral scientist positions are available in the Lab of Dr. Zhiming
: Cai. Our lab is part of Shenzhen University 1st affiliated hospital and is
: located in Shenzhen China. We published a lot of papers on top level
: journals including: Cell, Nature, Nature genetics, Nature biotechnology,
: Science transnational medicine, Cell research, European Urology.
: We do research about xenotransplantation with the goal to get new donor
: organs. The current focus is on the molecular mechanisms of immunorejection
: and immune tolerance between pig and human. We plan to use gene editing
: methods including Crispr-cas9 to edit immunorejection genes.
k*a
57 楼
正解,上面写了总收入约32万人民币
【在 s****n 的大作中提到】
: 动动脑子好吧
: http://sedu.sibs.ac.cn/news/newsdisp.asp?ID=1053
【在 s****n 的大作中提到】
: 动动脑子好吧
: http://sedu.sibs.ac.cn/news/newsdisp.asp?ID=1053
g*y
59 楼
国内博士后现在就是这3万个价,比如认识一个复旦的正在干的
S*a
61 楼
刚巧从深圳回来,正好知道这个医院。这个医院的博士后工资很高,知道的几个都是税
前30万。我个人觉得这个广告上是typo.人医院不差钱的,深圳市政府对博士后有专门
的补贴(一年10几万吧)。而且他们要求很高的,至少我知道的那几个博士后都有20分
以上的文章。别说我忽悠,我也觉得不可思议,可是现在国内就是这么牛,至少数分数
不比你差。。。
前30万。我个人觉得这个广告上是typo.人医院不差钱的,深圳市政府对博士后有专门
的补贴(一年10几万吧)。而且他们要求很高的,至少我知道的那几个博士后都有20分
以上的文章。别说我忽悠,我也觉得不可思议,可是现在国内就是这么牛,至少数分数
不比你差。。。
p*u
62 楼
请注意,深圳大学讲师工资在50万左右
d*i
64 楼
点链接进去看,已经更正了
楼上义正言辞说不是typo的,说国内博后就值三万RMB/年的,脸肿没?
楼上义正言辞说不是typo的,说国内博后就值三万RMB/年的,脸肿没?
s*y
66 楼
现在国内都流行说税后工资吗?
w*a
67 楼
是Typo。国内博士后的工资普遍水涨船高。深圳更是土豪。深圳市给薄后12万,深圳大
学会给,在医院的话会另外给,合作导师还给。算算差不多
学会给,在医院的话会另外给,合作导师还给。算算差不多
s*8
68 楼
30k or 300k,either way,都很吸眼球
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