from CNBC Chemical Engineers Employed in U.S.: 31,700 Change expected in next decade: -2% Average salary: $84,680 Demand for engineers overall is good, with some specialties expected to see outstanding growth, but demand for chemical engineers, who work in the manufacturing of chemicals and products such as gasoline, synthetic rubber, plastics and cement, is expected to drop 2 percent in the next decade. The biggest demand in engineering will be for biomedical engineers, with projected growth of 72 percent over the next decade, as well as civil, environmental engineers
Demand for chemical engineering in upstream will go up 30% by 2040
b*0
5 楼
Please DO NOT mislead people. Upstream company prefer to hire petrolem eningeer, the hiring of process engineer with chemE background is limited, and it does not change the dim outlook for chemical engineer.
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】 : Demand for chemical engineering in upstream will go up 30% by 2040
S*y
6 楼
what is petreoleum engineer? a person who knows how to operate machines by learning tutorial procedures?
S*y
7 楼
what is petreoleum engineer? a person who knows how to operate machines by learning tutorial procedures?
k*i
8 楼
know much about petroleum, geology, detection and recovery. Not just operate machines
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】 : what is petreoleum engineer? a person who knows how to operate machines by : learning tutorial procedures?
y*a
9 楼
regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know of upstream. (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what fashion? (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? - - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is the upside and downside of the industry? (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years? Will "hero to zero" scenario reappear like the 80s or early 2009? Which factors keep oil price high? Which factors keep oil price low? (4) Why young students hesitate in taking PE degrees compared with others? Why the industry has a negative picture while it is a viable and profitable industry and how to improve it (and did not lead the nations into recession compared with banking)? Why the PE schools did not enroll thousands students each (as they did in the late 70s)? (5) Why will the upstream recruit ChE graduates, compared with PE students, compared with Civil, Mechanical, ... students? There are more PE students ( PE students alone could have filled most, if not all, vacancies in the industry at current level), and more selection from engineering and scientific disciplines? Why ChE would have any marginal preference compared with others? (6) Will PE simply die and disappear after production is gone in say 200 yrs or whatever the time frame? Where will it head to? Is it a sunset discipline and a sunset industry?
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】 : Demand for chemical engineering in upstream will go up 30% by 2040
b*0
10 楼
You are marvelous thinker, like Karl Max etc., always thinking about the future of human being. This board and my topic is too trivia for you indeed. People like
know - is
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】 : regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know : of upstream. : (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will : fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other : energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what : fashion? : (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? - : - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is : the upside and downside of the industry? : (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
h*y
11 楼
我也很悲观。
see ,
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】 : from CNBC : Chemical Engineers : Employed in U.S.: 31,700 : Change expected in next decade: -2% : Average salary: $84,680 : Demand for engineers overall is good, with some specialties expected to see : outstanding growth, but demand for chemical engineers, who work in the : manufacturing of chemicals and products such as gasoline, synthetic rubber, : plastics and cement, is expected to drop 2 percent in the next decade. : The biggest demand in engineering will be for biomedical engineers, with
j*n
12 楼
regardless what you are saying, does "future" mean anything to you?
know - is
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】 : regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know : of upstream. : (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will : fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other : energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what : fashion? : (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? - : - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is : the upside and downside of the industry? : (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
J*i
13 楼
你悲观啥。。。加州过几年也开始 off-shore drilling,美金花花的
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】 : 我也很悲观。 : : see : ,
y*a
14 楼
This is not about future of human being. The following question is related to the questions I am asking: (1) If PE is well paid, is it worthwhile for ppl to switch into it? (2) Is the career unstable (as in the past) or not? (3) What you need to do now and in the nearest future to prevent loss of employment happening or with the minimal impact? (4) Whether you can be enrolled in PE schools if changing study now, or if you can launch a job in the upstream? I am talking about one's career path and preparation for it in the upstream.
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】 : You are marvelous thinker, like Karl Max etc., always thinking about the : future of human being. : This board and my topic is too trivia for you indeed. : People like : : know : - : is
b*0
15 楼
I guess that you know the answer, why not just tell us your opinion. PE is very well paid and can be cyclical. We all know ChE is going downhill and very little stability. Chemical industry is sunset industry in America indeed. Petrolem engineer seems better than ChE. Again, great thinker like yolanda is wastering his/her great talent to be ChE or PE.ChE or PE is trivia major WSN struggle to make a living.
upstream.
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】 : This is not about future of human being. : The following question is related to the questions I am asking: : (1) If PE is well paid, is it worthwhile for ppl to switch into it? : (2) Is the career unstable (as in the past) or not? : (3) What you need to do now and in the nearest future to prevent loss of : employment happening or with the minimal impact? : (4) Whether you can be enrolled in PE schools if changing study now, or if : you can launch a job in the upstream? : I am talking about one's career path and preparation for it in the upstream.
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】 : regardless what you are saying, think the following first to see if you know : of upstream. : (1) What is the energy outlook in 20 yrs, 50 yrs and 100 yrs? -- Will : fossil fuel last 20 yrs or more (in the light of competition from other : energy sources) and why? Why will the demand grow at all and in what : fashion? : (2) Will oil price crash again? Why gas price is kept low at the moment? - : - How will it change in the future? How the upstream will respond? What is : the upside and downside of the industry? : (3) What are the driving force(s) that kept the oil boom in recent years?
b*0
21 楼
I guess that you are really green. Yes, the oil, refining and petrochemical industry will be around for 20 plus years. But If you went through the tough time of early 90s and downturn of 2000, you won't be so bullish. Do you ever hear companies called ARCO, Mobil etc, where are they now? Where are their employees?
Even if another downturn of oil industry comes within the next Decade, Chemical engineering is the better choice because cheme skills are transferable to oil, energy, pharmaceutical and semiconductor industries. Yes, ARCO and MOBIl vanished. Yet, many of their employee are still working for CHEVRON and EXXONMOBIL.
petrochemical tough Where
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】 : I guess that you are really green. Yes, the oil, refining and petrochemical : industry will be around for 20 plus years. But If you went through the tough : time of early 90s and downturn of 2000, you won't be so bullish. : Do you ever hear companies called ARCO, Mobil etc, where are they now? Where : are their employees?
b*0
23 楼
At the eve of New Year, I like your optimisium. However,Athough I agree CHME skills is transferable to other area. how much do you know about pharmaceutical and semiconductor industry and job market in America? American media usually is rosy, I have to agree CNBC's projection about CHME job prospects.
working
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】 : Even if another downturn of oil industry comes within the next Decade, : Chemical engineering is the better choice because cheme skills are : transferable to oil, energy, pharmaceutical and semiconductor industries. : Yes, ARCO and MOBIl vanished. Yet, many of their employee are still working : for CHEVRON and EXXONMOBIL. : : petrochemical : tough : Where
S*y
24 楼
you will know a lot about pharmaceutical and semiconductor industry once you are a qualified CHEMICAL ENGINEER.
【在 b*******0 的大作中提到】 : I guess that you are really green. Yes, the oil, refining and petrochemical : industry will be around for 20 plus years. But If you went through the tough : time of early 90s and downturn of 2000, you won't be so bullish. : Do you ever hear companies called ARCO, Mobil etc, where are they now? Where : are their employees?
b*0
26 楼
Although you are right that chemical engineering knowledge is vital for semiconductor fabrication and drug manufacturing, you may not have updated knowledge about current job market for pharma and semiconductor industry. It is almost impossible for a chemical engineer who have worked in chemical industry extended time to change career in either pharma or semiconductor industry. It is always easy and cheap to train new graduates. I wish that you are right and I am wrong, since I have extensive chemical enigneering training. However we do need face the reality, no matter it is rosy or grim. You need to be aware that the post is refered from CNBC, not made up by me.
you
【在 S********y 的大作中提到】 : you will know a lot about pharmaceutical and semiconductor industry once you : are a qualified CHEMICAL ENGINEER.
S*y
27 楼
bigHead. thanks for reply. i guess you are wondering: assuming a chemical engineer works in oil industry for too long, how easy to find a job in parmaceutical or semiconductor industries? Well,it should be case dependent. The only thing i know is that some skills a chemecial engineer learned in oil industry, such as heat & mass & momentum transfer modeling, particle flow, gridding,high performance computation should be transferable to semiconductor and pharmaceutical industries. Of course, a chemical engineer with upstream experiences are highly demanded in oil industy and generally should not worry about a job..