新增:《华盛顿邮报》今天(1/25)报道,参议院六人组已接近达成移民改革协议(is nearing agreement on broad principles for overhauling the nation's immigration laws)。(所以总统宣布将于1/29星期二宣布其计划)邮报报道,大部分 原则已达成协议,现在需要时间书写草案(We have basic agreement on many of the core principles, now we have to draft it. It takes time.)邮报报道,这是国 会最高优先级议题(The accelerated pace signals that immigration reform is expected to be one of Congress’s highest priorities)。 如果你同意没有那么巧参议院同时提出两个不同版本的两党移民提案,那么无论你觉得 以下多么难以想像,很可能就反映最终提案。 摘要 1) 两党共同提案; 2) 低学历H1B配额每年最低11万5千,最多30万; 3) 硕士以上高学历无需H1B配额,同见6); 4) H1B签证持有人配偶可在美工作; 5) 工作绿卡持有人的配偶子女、杰出人才、(硕士以上)高学历人才申请绿卡不受配 额限制:也就是说高学历直接拿绿卡。但是不排除雇主扣4-5年才申请EB,就象以前EB2 不用排队时的样子。 6) 取消每个国家的工作绿卡(7%)限额:也就是剩下的全球非高学历非杰出人才的EB2 一条队,EB3一条队; 影响:个人估计, 1) 此议案违背了某些人捆绑非法移民的“全面移民改革”的算盘,因此会有阻力; 2) 根据参院新的议事程序,此法案比3012要容易通过,(只要共和党6票支持就可以避 免拉布程序提交讨论?现在共同提案已经有共和党2票) 3) 按照3012的经验,此提案对移民部485放水有积极影响。特别是如果参议院表决通过 ,即使总统最终会否决此提案。在法案死掉之前移民部也可能开始放水。 4) 即使最终走“全面移民改革”的路子,此提案也为其中关于合法移民部分定下调子。 原文 兩黨參議員計劃下周提出高科技移民議案,提議包括大幅增加面向高技能外籍專才的H- 1B簽證額度等一系列對高科技移民有利的措施。國會山新聞網站The Hill報道,兩位共 和黨籍參議員,猶他州的哈奇和佛州的盧比奧,聯同兩位民主黨籍參議員,德拉瓦州的 庫恩斯和明尼蘇達州的克羅巴卡,一起提出這個「移民創新法案」(Immigration Innovation Act)。 議案提議,將H-1B的簽證額從現時的6.5萬大幅增加至11.5萬;建立「以市場為基準的H -1B簽證額調整機制」,如果H-1B簽證額在具體某一年很快就滿額,簽證額將可以增加 ,但一年最多不超過30萬;取消高學歷人士H-1B的簽證限額,這個給碩士或以上學歷外 國畢業生的簽證額現時為2萬個。 特別惹人注意的是,議案還授權H-1B簽證持有人的配偶可以在美國工作。這個問題多年 來一直是一個棘手的問題。 議案還希望減少綠卡積壓,允許特定人群不受工作綠卡配額限制,免受配額制約的人包 括工作綠卡持有人的扶養人、傑出教授與研究員、擁有美國大學數學、科學和工程專業 高等學歷的外國畢業生。同時取消對每個國家工作綠卡的限額。 此外,議案還主張增加僱主申請H-1B簽證的費用和工作綠卡申請費。這些增加的收入將 用於推動在科學、技術、工程和數學領域教育的計劃,以及在各州層面的再培訓。 據預期,這一議案將獲得科技界的支持。多年來,科技界一直呼籲華盛頓進行高科技移 民改革。 類似微軟和英特爾等科技公司一直聲稱,由於缺乏合格的申請人,他們在填補工程和研 究方面的空缺方面一直有困難。 他們還聲稱,現時的移民規定導致外籍高科技工人流失到外國競爭對手那裏。科技業高 度依賴H-1B計劃聘用外國僱員,擔任科學家、工程師及電腦程序員等高學歷科技人才的 工作。
【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】 : 新增:《华盛顿邮报》今天(1/25)报道,参议院六人组已接近达成移民改革协议(is : nearing agreement on broad principles for overhauling the nation's : immigration laws)。(所以总统宣布将于1/29星期二宣布其计划)邮报报道,大部分 : 原则已达成协议,现在需要时间书写草案(We have basic agreement on many of the : core principles, now we have to draft it. It takes time.)邮报报道,这是国 : 会最高优先级议题(The accelerated pace signals that immigration reform is : expected to be one of Congress’s highest priorities)。 : 如果你同意没有那么巧参议院同时提出两个不同版本的两党移民提案,那么无论你觉得 : 以下多么难以想像,很可能就反映最终提案。 : 摘要
I just need item 5(stem) or 6(3012), but too difficult to get approved
f*n
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原文在这里,出自Thehill.com: http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/279227-bipa Bipartisan group of senators to introduce high-skilled immigration bill By Jennifer Martinez - 01/24/13 07:15 PM ET A bipartisan group of senators is poised to introduce a high-skilled immigration bill next week that would significantly increase the number of H -1B visas available to skilled foreign-born workers, such as engineers and computer programmers. A current draft of the bill obtained by The Hill proposes to increase the cap for H-1B visas to 115,000 from the current cap of 65,000. It would also create a "market-based H-1B escalator" that would allow for additional visas to be made available to foreign workers if the cap is hit early during a particular year—though it can only hit a ceiling of 300,000 visas. The escalator would adjust up or down, depending on the demands of the market. Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Chris Coons (D-Del.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) are co-sponsors of the bill, according to the obtained draft. Hatch told The Hill that the co-sponsors are aiming to file the bill next Tuesday. It will be the first immigration bill introduced this year as Congress is gearing up for a long battle over comprehensive immigration reform. When asked why he decided to focus on reforming the H-1B program first, Hatch said he believed passing such a measure is "very doable" and may encourage other members to support other immigration reform efforts in the future. "I think we need to break the ice and let people know that this is the art of the doable... at least I think it's very doable and I think everybody ought to come on [to support it] because it makes sense and it's a bipartisan bill already," Hatch said. "If we put that through that says to them, well maybe we can do more and if we can do more, I'm going to be right there helping." The bill, currently titled the Immigration Innovation Act, will likely earn support from the tech industry, which has called on Washington for years to pass high-skilled immigration reform. Tech companies, such as Microsoft and Intel, have argued that they struggle to fill positions for engineering and research jobs because of there is a lack of qualified applicants for those positions. They also say the existing immigration rules force them to lose these skilled workers to competitors abroad. The tech industry relies on the H-1B program to hire foreign workers for jobs that require advanced technical skills, such as scientists, engineers or programmers. Hatch said there may be pushback from groups upset with the bill's aim to increase the number of H-1B visas for immigrants, but he "doubted it" because the measure will help boost the U.S. economy. "We know that we've created all kinds of efforts against ourselves by educating people and not allowing them to stay here when they wanted to," Hatch said. "And we ought to keep these master's degrees and Ph.D.s that can help us to regenerate our business community and our economy, and this bill will help us to do that." The bill would also remove the cap that limits the number of H-1B visas that a American employer can apply for in order to hire foreign graduates with advanced degrees from U.S. universities. That cap is currently limited to 20 ,000 visas a year. Notably, the current draft of the bill authorizes dependent spouses of H-1B visa holders to work in the U.S. The issue has typically been a thorny one in previous years. The bill also attempts to reduce the backlog for green cards by exempting certain groups of people from the employment-based green card cap, such as dependents of employment-based visa recipients, "outstanding professors and researchers," and foreign-born gradates from U.S. universities with advanced degrees in math, science and engineering. It would also eliminate the per- country caps on employment-based green cards. Additionally, the bill proposes to increase the fees that employers would have to pay to petition for H-1B visas and employment-based green cards. The additional money from these fees will go towards a grant program dedicated to promoting education in the so-called STEM fields—science, technology, engineering and math—and "worker retraining" at the state-level, according to a one-page summary of the bill. Spokespeople for the bill co-sponsors did not respond to requests for comment.
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【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】 : 新增:《华盛顿邮报》今天(1/25)报道,参议院六人组已接近达成移民改革协议(is : nearing agreement on broad principles for overhauling the nation's : immigration laws)。(所以总统宣布将于1/29星期二宣布其计划)邮报报道,大部分 : 原则已达成协议,现在需要时间书写草案(We have basic agreement on many of the : core principles, now we have to draft it. It takes time.)邮报报道,这是国 : 会最高优先级议题(The accelerated pace signals that immigration reform is : expected to be one of Congress’s highest priorities)。 : 如果你同意没有那么巧参议院同时提出两个不同版本的两党移民提案,那么无论你觉得 : 以下多么难以想像,很可能就反映最终提案。 : 摘要
【在 f*********n 的大作中提到】 : 原文在这里,出自Thehill.com: : http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/279227-bipa : Bipartisan group of senators to introduce high-skilled immigration bill : By Jennifer Martinez - 01/24/13 07:15 PM ET : A bipartisan group of senators is poised to introduce a high-skilled : immigration bill next week that would significantly increase the number of H : -1B visas available to skilled foreign-born workers, such as engineers and : computer programmers. : A current draft of the bill obtained by The Hill proposes to increase the : cap for H-1B visas to 115,000 from the current cap of 65,000. It would also
q*c
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"break the ice... the art of doable...", sounds like they are not confident the bill will pass.
this time there may be something that can get done..not necessarily good for chinese though... the demography in US is changing...
【在 q********c 的大作中提到】 : 参见HR3012 和 STEM bill的命运.
g*n
24 楼
Where is Grassley?
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】 : 放八胖 : : EB2
a*a
25 楼
去看dentist了,昨天笑掉了两颗大牙。
【在 g*****n 的大作中提到】 : Where is Grassley?
n*1
26 楼
if so, you submit 485 earlier, but it takes longer time to get the card.
is the
【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】 : 新增:《华盛顿邮报》今天(1/25)报道,参议院六人组已接近达成移民改革协议(is : nearing agreement on broad principles for overhauling the nation's : immigration laws)。(所以总统宣布将于1/29星期二宣布其计划)邮报报道,大部分 : 原则已达成协议,现在需要时间书写草案(We have basic agreement on many of the : core principles, now we have to draft it. It takes time.)邮报报道,这是国 : 会最高优先级议题(The accelerated pace signals that immigration reform is : expected to be one of Congress’s highest priorities)。 : 如果你同意没有那么巧参议院同时提出两个不同版本的两党移民提案,那么无论你觉得 : 以下多么难以想像,很可能就反映最终提案。 : 摘要
是你自己头脑太简单,民主党想要的是一千一百万非法移民,而共和党会极力阻止这一 千一百万非法移民,都进来,本来就要崩溃的福利税收制度一下就垮了,国家搞不好要 走查韦斯路线。这是路线之争,是生死存亡之争,不会轻易放弃的。 不信请参考下面这篇文章: 美国经济“大妥协”时代即将终结 The End of America's Grand Economic Bargain http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/31465093.html 结果就是这高科技移民法案,共和党要单独拿出来讨论,大部分共和党支持,结果被民 主党否决,就算通过也被总统否决。民主党提出的法案首先是一千一百万非法移民合法 ,被共和党否决,结果谁也过不去。 不信,你可以数数奥巴马总共明确说过多少次支持合法高科技移民。
【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】 : 新增:《华盛顿邮报》今天(1/25)报道,参议院六人组已接近达成移民改革协议(is : nearing agreement on broad principles for overhauling the nation's : immigration laws)。(所以总统宣布将于1/29星期二宣布其计划)邮报报道,大部分 : 原则已达成协议,现在需要时间书写草案(We have basic agreement on many of the : core principles, now we have to draft it. It takes time.)邮报报道,这是国 : 会最高优先级议题(The accelerated pace signals that immigration reform is : expected to be one of Congress’s highest priorities)。 : 如果你同意没有那么巧参议院同时提出两个不同版本的两党移民提案,那么无论你觉得 : 以下多么难以想像,很可能就反映最终提案。 : 摘要
b*s
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今晚有点时间最后回复一下你这个说法。不要转USANEWS,那里类似于GOP的TEA PARTY 大本营,2012大选前USANEWS里也是一片欢呼ROMNEY要大胜了,最后被弄得狼狈不堪。 一千一百万非法移民大多数是拉丁裔,而且很多还是美国公民的父母,兄弟姐妹,亲戚 等,这些有关联的美国拉丁裔公民很多目前还在孩童少年期,尚没有投票权,但是4年 后,8年后,拉丁裔的选民比例要不断从当前10%增加,GOP可以关心福利税收是否垮, 但它最关心的是它这个党派还能不能在4年后,8年后继续以主要NATIONAL政党形式生存 下去,其它问题都是次要的。 例如说减税小政府也是GOP最核心价值观之一,但是在今年的FISCAL CLIFF谈论时,虽 然CONGRESS里的最保守的GOP成员,那些TEA PARTY成员,极力反对,甚至直接反对他们 的领袖BOEHNER,但是最终还是大多数MODERATE的GOP成员跟从了他们领袖意见,基本妥 协了民主党。 GOP现在关系生死的最大问题之一就是要扭转拉丁裔选民一边倒的局势,其它富人税收 ,MEDICAID,SOCIAL SECURITY之类都很重要,很关键,但在这生死问题之前都会有妥协。 所以这次CIR比起4年前COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH CARE REFORM 阻力要小得差一个数量级 ,那个时候,GOP从议会到民间几乎是100%的反对,这次GOP要分裂的多,TEA PARTY, 这里USANEWS里的一群小丑,还有这个版上的“洗洗睡吧”党党员会极力反对,但是很 多温和GOP议员最终会和民主党站在一起,CONGRESS里GOP优势本身就是很小,所以很大 机会通过。作为历史对照,HEALTH CARE BILL,GOP 整个CONGRESS只有一个越南裔议员 投了赞成票,这次会很不一样。 所以我觉得非法移民合法化在今年通过概率在80%以上,这也是OBAMA自己想要达到的第 二个历史性MILESTONES(第一个是HEALTH CARE BILL).那时候USANEWS里一群人也是说 绝对通不过云云,不要听他们胡言乱语。 然后民主党会象征性放一些科技移民有利的条例进去,尤其STEM,但是其他的,例如最 具体的7%之类东西,我不能确定,我觉得最可能被提出来充门面的之一将是STEM。 好了,我不发更多帖子了,“洗洗睡吧”党明天开始接着占领这个版每天来发洗洗睡吧。
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】 : 是你自己头脑太简单,民主党想要的是一千一百万非法移民,而共和党会极力阻止这一 : 千一百万非法移民,都进来,本来就要崩溃的福利税收制度一下就垮了,国家搞不好要 : 走查韦斯路线。这是路线之争,是生死存亡之争,不会轻易放弃的。 : 不信请参考下面这篇文章: : 美国经济“大妥协”时代即将终结 : The End of America's Grand Economic Bargain : http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/31465093.html : 结果就是这高科技移民法案,共和党要单独拿出来讨论,大部分共和党支持,结果被民 : 主党否决,就算通过也被总统否决。民主党提出的法案首先是一千一百万非法移民合法 : ,被共和党否决,结果谁也过不去。
【在 c*****4 的大作中提到】 : 新增:《华盛顿邮报》今天(1/25)报道,参议院六人组已接近达成移民改革协议(is : nearing agreement on broad principles for overhauling the nation's : immigration laws)。(所以总统宣布将于1/29星期二宣布其计划)邮报报道,大部分 : 原则已达成协议,现在需要时间书写草案(We have basic agreement on many of the : core principles, now we have to draft it. It takes time.)邮报报道,这是国 : 会最高优先级议题(The accelerated pace signals that immigration reform is : expected to be one of Congress’s highest priorities)。 : 如果你同意没有那么巧参议院同时提出两个不同版本的两党移民提案,那么无论你觉得 : 以下多么难以想像,很可能就反映最终提案。 : 摘要