KLA-Tencor(加州)从本科到博士都有opening和intern，感兴趣的可以试试# EE - 电子工程
b*u
1 楼
拿到一个当地公司的会计部门entry level staff accountant offer。听说进了公司干
，accounting firms就不会想要你了，是真的吗？直接从公司会计干起，是不是没什么
前途？
，accounting firms就不会想要你了，是真的吗？直接从公司会计干起，是不是没什么
前途？
a*n
2 楼
RT
c*7
3 楼
看你的最终目标是什么吧.
s*q
4 楼
请问您是在这个公司工作吗，方便看下简历推荐下吗？目前正在看他家职位，申请了几
个，想找人帮忙内推下，谢谢。
个，想找人帮忙内推下，谢谢。
t*f
5 楼
It's somewhat true since it's completely two different career path, one
is
in private accounting and the other is in public accounting.
I do agree w/ crystal above that it depends on your ultimate goal. If
you
want a better work and life balance that pays not too bad, private
accounting is not such a bad deal. A lot of people go into corporate
accounting after spending a few years in public either at senior or
manager
level. People with public experience get a short cut and get better
position in a few years but they do pay for it for long working hours in
those years. Most people get out of public accounting because they don't
want to work the long hours year round.
The downside to start a career in private accounting is that it may take
longer to move up the chain (promoted), but they don't work the long
hours
the first few years as the auditors do. So no pain, no gain.
Depending on what you actually do as the entry-level staff accountant at
the
corporate, A/P and A/R are too good for long run, G/L is better, cost
accounting is good as well.
is
in private accounting and the other is in public accounting.
I do agree w/ crystal above that it depends on your ultimate goal. If
you
want a better work and life balance that pays not too bad, private
accounting is not such a bad deal. A lot of people go into corporate
accounting after spending a few years in public either at senior or
manager
level. People with public experience get a short cut and get better
position in a few years but they do pay for it for long working hours in
those years. Most people get out of public accounting because they don't
want to work the long hours year round.
The downside to start a career in private accounting is that it may take
longer to move up the chain (promoted), but they don't work the long
hours
the first few years as the auditors do. So no pain, no gain.
Depending on what you actually do as the entry-level staff accountant at
the
corporate, A/P and A/R are too good for long run, G/L is better, cost
accounting is good as well.
d*n
6 楼
LZ能提供内推吗
b*u
7 楼
Thank you very much for both of your insights. I was told I will be able to
get involved in a range of accounting duties to support the senior
accountants. I would like to know if I feel like switching the path from
corporate to firms after a while, is this possible, even though most people
chose the other way around.
get involved in a range of accounting duties to support the senior
accountants. I would like to know if I feel like switching the path from
corporate to firms after a while, is this possible, even though most people
chose the other way around.
s*e
8 楼
美本EE，大二，可以推荐下实习吗？
c*7
9 楼
Personally, I think it's easier to go from public from private. However,
public and private accounting are focused on 2 very different fields and
your daily duties will also very significantly for the same reason.
to
people
【在 b****u 的大作中提到】
: Thank you very much for both of your insights. I was told I will be able to
: get involved in a range of accounting duties to support the senior
: accountants. I would like to know if I feel like switching the path from
: corporate to firms after a while, is this possible, even though most people
: chose the other way around.
public and private accounting are focused on 2 very different fields and
your daily duties will also very significantly for the same reason.
to
people
【在 b****u 的大作中提到】
: Thank you very much for both of your insights. I was told I will be able to
: get involved in a range of accounting duties to support the senior
: accountants. I would like to know if I feel like switching the path from
: corporate to firms after a while, is this possible, even though most people
: chose the other way around.
a*n
10 楼
请问可以内推吗
t*f
11 楼
It's not likely to happen to switch from industry to public later on. The
main reason is that public accounting firms either big or small are only
willing to train fresh grads at the beginning. They don't usually hire
experience staff without prior audit experiences since as experienced staff,
you are expect to lead other junior staff and don't need a lot of
supervision for audit field work. Prior operational accounting experience
in the industry won't do you any good in this aspect.
main reason is that public accounting firms either big or small are only
willing to train fresh grads at the beginning. They don't usually hire
experience staff without prior audit experiences since as experienced staff,
you are expect to lead other junior staff and don't need a lot of
supervision for audit field work. Prior operational accounting experience
in the industry won't do you any good in this aspect.
a*n
12 楼
请问可以内推吗谢谢
b*u
13 楼
If I only plan to work in industry for like a year then apply for firms,
would this work?
I am actually currently studying CPA.
would this work?
I am actually currently studying CPA.
i*r
14 楼
此公司是不是HR已被阿三把持？
另外听说累的跟狗一样
另外听说累的跟狗一样
c*7
15 楼
Like tictaclf said, it's not easy getting in as an experienced hire without
prior audit experience (unless the firm is looking to expand and you have a
strong private background that meets their needs). It's def. a plus to get
your CPA done before you join the firm, will increase your chance of
getting in as an experienced hire.
【在 b****u 的大作中提到】
: If I only plan to work in industry for like a year then apply for firms,
: would this work?
: I am actually currently studying CPA.
prior audit experience (unless the firm is looking to expand and you have a
strong private background that meets their needs). It's def. a plus to get
your CPA done before you join the firm, will increase your chance of
getting in as an experienced hire.
【在 b****u 的大作中提到】
: If I only plan to work in industry for like a year then apply for firms,
: would this work?
: I am actually currently studying CPA.
e*y
16 楼
要看部门和具体职位。软工基本是烙印，其他的老中还是很多。
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: 此公司是不是HR已被阿三把持？
: 另外听说累的跟狗一样
【在 i******r 的大作中提到】
: 此公司是不是HR已被阿三把持？
: 另外听说累的跟狗一样
t*f
17 楼
With one year experience in industry, even with all parts of CPA test passed
, you have a very slim chance to be recruited as experience stuff at
accounting firms. Big 4 won't consider it, regional or smaller firm might,
but chance is slim. A friend of mine got it with a strong internal referral
but her work experience is state tax audit related under the circumstance
that back then all big 4 are in short of staff.
To be honest, if you don't have any other job offers at public accounting,
take this one and learn as much as you can on the job about various aspect
of accounting. Not all accounting major has to go through the public
accounting phase of career. I've seen quite a few who has very good career
path solely working in private accounting.
, you have a very slim chance to be recruited as experience stuff at
accounting firms. Big 4 won't consider it, regional or smaller firm might,
but chance is slim. A friend of mine got it with a strong internal referral
but her work experience is state tax audit related under the circumstance
that back then all big 4 are in short of staff.
To be honest, if you don't have any other job offers at public accounting,
take this one and learn as much as you can on the job about various aspect
of accounting. Not all accounting major has to go through the public
accounting phase of career. I've seen quite a few who has very good career
path solely working in private accounting.
i*r
18 楼
各种招聘会上kla都一堆阿三的hr，而且口音很重的那种阿三，一说话狗屁不通
非常反感，从此绕道
【在 e***y 的大作中提到】
: 要看部门和具体职位。软工基本是烙印，其他的老中还是很多。
非常反感，从此绕道
【在 e***y 的大作中提到】
: 要看部门和具体职位。软工基本是烙印，其他的老中还是很多。
b*u
19 楼
without
a
get
Thank you. Am I getting you right? If I work in the company and get my CPA
passed, I still have the chance of apply for the experienced hires in the
firms?
【在 c**********7 的大作中提到】
: Like tictaclf said, it's not easy getting in as an experienced hire without
: prior audit experience (unless the firm is looking to expand and you have a
: strong private background that meets their needs). It's def. a plus to get
: your CPA done before you join the firm, will increase your chance of
: getting in as an experienced hire.
c*8
20 楼
投了这家公司没人理我啊 不过我是找Fulltime。请问可以内推吗
b*u
21 楼
Thank you. I feel much more comfortable after hearing from your opinions.
passed
,
referral
career
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: With one year experience in industry, even with all parts of CPA test passed
: , you have a very slim chance to be recruited as experience stuff at
: accounting firms. Big 4 won't consider it, regional or smaller firm might,
: but chance is slim. A friend of mine got it with a strong internal referral
: but her work experience is state tax audit related under the circumstance
: that back then all big 4 are in short of staff.
: To be honest, if you don't have any other job offers at public accounting,
: take this one and learn as much as you can on the job about various aspect
: of accounting. Not all accounting major has to go through the public
: accounting phase of career. I've seen quite a few who has very good career
passed
,
referral
career
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: With one year experience in industry, even with all parts of CPA test passed
: , you have a very slim chance to be recruited as experience stuff at
: accounting firms. Big 4 won't consider it, regional or smaller firm might,
: but chance is slim. A friend of mine got it with a strong internal referral
: but her work experience is state tax audit related under the circumstance
: that back then all big 4 are in short of staff.
: To be honest, if you don't have any other job offers at public accounting,
: take this one and learn as much as you can on the job about various aspect
: of accounting. Not all accounting major has to go through the public
: accounting phase of career. I've seen quite a few who has very good career
J*e
22 楼
为啥非去public整一下呢？我就直接去了private，虽然当时有4大的offer。结果去了
才发现整个dept.有80%都是4大来的。有干了2-3年觉得太累来的，也有5-6年为了能有
时间生孩子来的：）很多人说从4大出来到industry，你的级别和工资就jump了，其实
不竟然。如果去大公司也就是个平级,起码我们公司是这样。我们也忙，但绝对work
life balance.mm不要想太多了。
才发现整个dept.有80%都是4大来的。有干了2-3年觉得太累来的，也有5-6年为了能有
时间生孩子来的：）很多人说从4大出来到industry，你的级别和工资就jump了，其实
不竟然。如果去大公司也就是个平级,起码我们公司是这样。我们也忙，但绝对work
life balance.mm不要想太多了。
c*1
23 楼
不能同意更多. 其实整来整去就是和自己过不去,结果都一样,也不会比其他人更好. 有些4大跳出来的,到头来连500强都挤不进去,最后也就进家小公司混混.
【在 J******e 的大作中提到】
: 为啥非去public整一下呢？我就直接去了private，虽然当时有4大的offer。结果去了
: 才发现整个dept.有80%都是4大来的。有干了2-3年觉得太累来的，也有5-6年为了能有
: 时间生孩子来的：）很多人说从4大出来到industry，你的级别和工资就jump了，其实
: 不竟然。如果去大公司也就是个平级,起码我们公司是这样。我们也忙，但绝对work
: life balance.mm不要想太多了。
【在 J******e 的大作中提到】
: 为啥非去public整一下呢？我就直接去了private，虽然当时有4大的offer。结果去了
: 才发现整个dept.有80%都是4大来的。有干了2-3年觉得太累来的，也有5-6年为了能有
: 时间生孩子来的：）很多人说从4大出来到industry，你的级别和工资就jump了，其实
: 不竟然。如果去大公司也就是个平级,起码我们公司是这样。我们也忙，但绝对work
: life balance.mm不要想太多了。
l*r
24 楼
为什么一说big4就觉得没有work life balance？其实没有那么恐怖的说。非忙季的时
候还是很自由宽松的，没有固定的上下班时间，不想去了呆家里工作一整天也没人说你
什么
至于说前途么，看是什么公司什么职位了。有的职位是没有什么前途的，跟你的老板也
很有关系。big4的好处么， 就是内部各种机会很多，不喜欢干这个可以换别的，不喜
欢这个老板，可以跟别的老板。
候还是很自由宽松的，没有固定的上下班时间，不想去了呆家里工作一整天也没人说你
什么
至于说前途么，看是什么公司什么职位了。有的职位是没有什么前途的，跟你的老板也
很有关系。big4的好处么， 就是内部各种机会很多，不喜欢干这个可以换别的，不喜
欢这个老板，可以跟别的老板。
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