l*n
5 楼
还有一点,我买了4年onsite服务。可能要等开生产线。据国内小道消息说,买大量
onsite服务的机器,好像和不买售后的产品线不一样。不知道是不是原料不同。不过听
起来挺合理。这种出货第一的厂商,有足够量可以这样搞。如果产品质量都一样好,那
么造价就高了,换机也不频繁了。如果造的都很烂,没买保的2年烧了主板正好,买
onsite的一百多要你派人去各种修就亏大了。联想这种靠硬件赚钱的,这样做很是有点
可能的。
.
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: I ordered mine on 21st, package shipped on 25th, expected to arrive on Dec.
: 1.
onsite服务的机器,好像和不买售后的产品线不一样。不知道是不是原料不同。不过听
起来挺合理。这种出货第一的厂商,有足够量可以这样搞。如果产品质量都一样好,那
么造价就高了,换机也不频繁了。如果造的都很烂,没买保的2年烧了主板正好,买
onsite的一百多要你派人去各种修就亏大了。联想这种靠硬件赚钱的,这样做很是有点
可能的。
.
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: I ordered mine on 21st, package shipped on 25th, expected to arrive on Dec.
: 1.
F*Q
6 楼
just rumors. I don't believe it is true.
having a separate assembly line and maintaining different QA standards
double manufacturing cost for nothing, it makes no sense from lenovo's
perspective.
plus, lenovo gives 3 years warranty for parts. onsite vs non-onsite makes
little difference.
【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 还有一点,我买了4年onsite服务。可能要等开生产线。据国内小道消息说,买大量
: onsite服务的机器,好像和不买售后的产品线不一样。不知道是不是原料不同。不过听
: 起来挺合理。这种出货第一的厂商,有足够量可以这样搞。如果产品质量都一样好,那
: 么造价就高了,换机也不频繁了。如果造的都很烂,没买保的2年烧了主板正好,买
: onsite的一百多要你派人去各种修就亏大了。联想这种靠硬件赚钱的,这样做很是有点
: 可能的。
:
: .
h*n
7 楼
不是有cancel大法么:你一威胁cancel,马上就寄出来了。
l*n
11 楼
不需要不同的qa或者新生产线。比如来料的时候分优质和普通材料,组装阶段都一样,
只是用料不同。
不买额外保险thinkpad只有1年parts,并不是三年。如果联想1年parts保修和4年上门
保修的材料是一样的,那么他们的成本控制部门就太nice了。
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: just rumors. I don't believe it is true.
: having a separate assembly line and maintaining different QA standards
: double manufacturing cost for nothing, it makes no sense from lenovo's
: perspective.
: plus, lenovo gives 3 years warranty for parts. onsite vs non-onsite makes
: little difference.
只是用料不同。
不买额外保险thinkpad只有1年parts,并不是三年。如果联想1年parts保修和4年上门
保修的材料是一样的,那么他们的成本控制部门就太nice了。
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: just rumors. I don't believe it is true.
: having a separate assembly line and maintaining different QA standards
: double manufacturing cost for nothing, it makes no sense from lenovo's
: perspective.
: plus, lenovo gives 3 years warranty for parts. onsite vs non-onsite makes
: little difference.
F*Q
12 楼
then I have a counter example for you. I looked at my x1c order last year,
which I bought 3 year parts. the timing was exactly the same: Nov. 21
ordered, Nov. 25 shipped. It is identical to my x1 yoga order this year (
which has 1 yr part).
again, I think it is something you'd like to believe. still makes no sense
to me.
【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 不需要不同的qa或者新生产线。比如来料的时候分优质和普通材料,组装阶段都一样,
: 只是用料不同。
: 不买额外保险thinkpad只有1年parts,并不是三年。如果联想1年parts保修和4年上门
: 保修的材料是一样的,那么他们的成本控制部门就太nice了。
l*n
13 楼
我只是说有这个可能,而且make sense。
至于为什么这么快,或者楼主为什么那么慢,是根据订单和库存的。你买的估计都有库
存。如果定多年保修的人少,那么库存少,一旦没有货了就要等排班制作。而一年保是
缺省,订的人多,所以存货多的可能性大。寄出时间短。
现在寄出时间变化那么大,只能说支持这个推论。
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: then I have a counter example for you. I looked at my x1c order last year,
: which I bought 3 year parts. the timing was exactly the same: Nov. 21
: ordered, Nov. 25 shipped. It is identical to my x1 yoga order this year (
: which has 1 yr part).
: again, I think it is something you'd like to believe. still makes no sense
: to me.
至于为什么这么快,或者楼主为什么那么慢,是根据订单和库存的。你买的估计都有库
存。如果定多年保修的人少,那么库存少,一旦没有货了就要等排班制作。而一年保是
缺省,订的人多,所以存货多的可能性大。寄出时间短。
现在寄出时间变化那么大,只能说支持这个推论。
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: then I have a counter example for you. I looked at my x1c order last year,
: which I bought 3 year parts. the timing was exactly the same: Nov. 21
: ordered, Nov. 25 shipped. It is identical to my x1 yoga order this year (
: which has 1 yr part).
: again, I think it is something you'd like to believe. still makes no sense
: to me.
F*Q
14 楼
on the other hand, the quality of thinkpads is solid. that's why I kept
buying them (aside from my preference to trackpoint)
among the 7 thinkpads I purchased (2 personal, 5 for work, but I use some of
them on a daily basis) over the past 15 years, the only problem I had was
two disk failure for a T510. I also had a memory failure for my T21 after 6
years. Batteries will degrade, similar to other laptop of the same age.
【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 不需要不同的qa或者新生产线。比如来料的时候分优质和普通材料,组装阶段都一样,
: 只是用料不同。
: 不买额外保险thinkpad只有1年parts,并不是三年。如果联想1年parts保修和4年上门
: 保修的材料是一样的,那么他们的成本控制部门就太nice了。
l*n
15 楼
2013年以后的thinkpad不行了。如果你经常上各类thinkpad论坛,你会发现x1 carbon
这种顶级旗舰本,各种问题多如牛毛
随便一搜一个汇总贴,请查阅
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4835894145?lp=5027&mo_device=1&is_jingpost=0&pn=0&
of
6
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: on the other hand, the quality of thinkpads is solid. that's why I kept
: buying them (aside from my preference to trackpoint)
: among the 7 thinkpads I purchased (2 personal, 5 for work, but I use some of
: them on a daily basis) over the past 15 years, the only problem I had was
: two disk failure for a T510. I also had a memory failure for my T21 after 6
: years. Batteries will degrade, similar to other laptop of the same age.
这种顶级旗舰本,各种问题多如牛毛
随便一搜一个汇总贴,请查阅
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4835894145?lp=5027&mo_device=1&is_jingpost=0&pn=0&
of
6
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: on the other hand, the quality of thinkpads is solid. that's why I kept
: buying them (aside from my preference to trackpoint)
: among the 7 thinkpads I purchased (2 personal, 5 for work, but I use some of
: them on a daily basis) over the past 15 years, the only problem I had was
: two disk failure for a T510. I also had a memory failure for my T21 after 6
: years. Batteries will degrade, similar to other laptop of the same age.
F*Q
16 楼
carbon
love my x1c, except it was now stolen :( problem free before it disappeared.
the x1c gen2 has a poorly designed keyboard, but the keyboard was reverted
in gen3 and 4.
【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 2013年以后的thinkpad不行了。如果你经常上各类thinkpad论坛,你会发现x1 carbon
: 这种顶级旗舰本,各种问题多如牛毛
: 随便一搜一个汇总贴,请查阅
: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4835894145?lp=5027&mo_device=1&is_jingpost=0&pn=0&
:
: of
: 6
l*n
17 楼
这几个都是很详细的事例:
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4240120945?pn=0&red_tag=2851634752&
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/3638114754?pn=0&red_tag=2893953101&
of
6
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: carbon
: love my x1c, except it was now stolen :( problem free before it disappeared.
: the x1c gen2 has a poorly designed keyboard, but the keyboard was reverted
: in gen3 and 4.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4240120945?pn=0&red_tag=2851634752&
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/3638114754?pn=0&red_tag=2893953101&
of
6
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: carbon
: love my x1c, except it was now stolen :( problem free before it disappeared.
: the x1c gen2 has a poorly designed keyboard, but the keyboard was reverted
: in gen3 and 4.
l*n
18 楼
品控已经不是当年了。过去的经验没什么用
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4879327959?lp=5028&mo_device=1&is_jingpost=0
of
6
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: carbon
: love my x1c, except it was now stolen :( problem free before it disappeared.
: the x1c gen2 has a poorly designed keyboard, but the keyboard was reverted
: in gen3 and 4.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4879327959?lp=5028&mo_device=1&is_jingpost=0
of
6
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: carbon
: love my x1c, except it was now stolen :( problem free before it disappeared.
: the x1c gen2 has a poorly designed keyboard, but the keyboard was reverted
: in gen3 and 4.
d*b
19 楼
你廊坊的吧?装完中文后没声音也赖你弄我?
你弄我虽然烂但还没烂到这种程度,根本就是计算机属于高级设备,不适合廊坊网工使用
【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这几个都是很详细的事例:
: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4240120945?pn=0&red_tag=2851634752&
: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/3638114754?pn=0&red_tag=2893953101&
:
: of
: 6
你弄我虽然烂但还没烂到这种程度,根本就是计算机属于高级设备,不适合廊坊网工使用
【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这几个都是很详细的事例:
: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4240120945?pn=0&red_tag=2851634752&
: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/3638114754?pn=0&red_tag=2893953101&
:
: of
: 6
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