请问, google scholar 过300,怎么利用总数证明Top?# Immigration - 落地生根
s*e
1 楼
看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
percentage?
被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
多谢
percentage?
被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
多谢
a*e
2 楼
300都RFE，叫人呢怎么活呢。。。我(ECE)只有160+。。。。
s*e
4 楼
老兄是想连您自己的一篇文章吧。下载了，谢谢。
不过那个好像是单篇文章的。我想看看引用总数的百分比。不知道有没有。
【在 o****g 的大作中提到】
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/33440345.html
不过那个好像是单篇文章的。我想看看引用总数的百分比。不知道有没有。
【在 o****g 的大作中提到】
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/33440345.html
o*g
5 楼
助人心切，激动了~
我明天去单位看看有没有，好像以前没看见
我明天去单位看看有没有，好像以前没看见
s*e
6 楼
您是好人。
【在 o****g 的大作中提到】
: 助人心切，激动了~
: 我明天去单位看看有没有，好像以前没看见
【在 o****g 的大作中提到】
: 助人心切，激动了~
: 我明天去单位看看有没有，好像以前没看见
k*3
7 楼
ISI 的percentile 就可以比较的。
o*g
8 楼
还真没找到，有个按总引用数排名的作者list(不分领域),300在80777个作者里面排
80642(这个没法用吧)
80642(这个没法用吧)
s*e
9 楼
多谢，多谢
呵呵，这个不是Top是bottom了。（可能是bias，列的都是最高的了）
只能想办法间接证明了。
【在 o****g 的大作中提到】
: 还真没找到，有个按总引用数排名的作者list(不分领域),300在80777个作者里面排
: 80642(这个没法用吧)
呵呵，这个不是Top是bottom了。（可能是bias，列的都是最高的了）
只能想办法间接证明了。
【在 o****g 的大作中提到】
: 还真没找到，有个按总引用数排名的作者list(不分领域),300在80777个作者里面排
: 80642(这个没法用吧)
s*r
10 楼
You probably want to list the Google scholar citation numbers of your
colleagues/peers (i.e. 10 of them) in the same field/tier and compare your
article citation number with theirs to demonstrate your career excellence;
and, using the metrics of each single article helps too (i.e. the "attention
" percentile of your publication)
colleagues/peers (i.e. 10 of them) in the same field/tier and compare your
article citation number with theirs to demonstrate your career excellence;
and, using the metrics of each single article helps too (i.e. the "attention
" percentile of your publication)
a*t
11 楼
为什么要试图用citations总数来证明contribution? 一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力.
AAO判例多次提到总数不能说明问题, e.g.
"Regarding the petitioner's citation record, although the petitioner
indicates that citations to his work demonstrate a contribution of major
significance, he has not established that the number of citations is
significant or that a notable number of the citing authors placed unusual
reliance on his work. It is commonplace for articles to cite other published
works without the cited work being influential or serving as a foundational
basis for their work. On appeal, the petitioner relies on the total number
of citations in the aggregate. More probative of the influence of an
individual contribution, however, is the number of citations for a specific
article."
(MAR232015_01B2203, page 7)
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
AAO判例多次提到总数不能说明问题, e.g.
"Regarding the petitioner's citation record, although the petitioner
indicates that citations to his work demonstrate a contribution of major
significance, he has not established that the number of citations is
significant or that a notable number of the citing authors placed unusual
reliance on his work. It is commonplace for articles to cite other published
works without the cited work being influential or serving as a foundational
basis for their work. On appeal, the petitioner relies on the total number
of citations in the aggregate. More probative of the influence of an
individual contribution, however, is the number of citations for a specific
article."
(MAR232015_01B2203, page 7)
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
I*D
12 楼
总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
Education 比较。
单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
Education 比较。
单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
s*r
13 楼
Well said: "一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力". But 300 citation number is quite
strong IMHO, with sustained reference worldwide by other authors who
published in reputable journals or textbooks.
力.
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要试图用citations总数来证明contribution? 一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力.
: AAO判例多次提到总数不能说明问题, e.g.
: "Regarding the petitioner's citation record, although the petitioner
: indicates that citations to his work demonstrate a contribution of major
: significance, he has not established that the number of citations is
: significant or that a notable number of the citing authors placed unusual
: reliance on his work. It is commonplace for articles to cite other published
: works without the cited work being influential or serving as a foundational
: basis for their work. On appeal, the petitioner relies on the total number
: of citations in the aggregate. More probative of the influence of an
strong IMHO, with sustained reference worldwide by other authors who
published in reputable journals or textbooks.
力.
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要试图用citations总数来证明contribution? 一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力.
: AAO判例多次提到总数不能说明问题, e.g.
: "Regarding the petitioner's citation record, although the petitioner
: indicates that citations to his work demonstrate a contribution of major
: significance, he has not established that the number of citations is
: significant or that a notable number of the citing authors placed unusual
: reliance on his work. It is commonplace for articles to cite other published
: works without the cited work being influential or serving as a foundational
: basis for their work. On appeal, the petitioner relies on the total number
: of citations in the aggregate. More probative of the influence of an
a*t
14 楼
I surely hope so -- I got ~300 citations, too.. :)
Perhaps a safe strategy is to use the aggregate number (in comparison with
whatever statistics to give some context) as a primer to the point-by-point
analysis of each individual contribution.
quite
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: Well said: "一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力". But 300 citation number is quite
: strong IMHO, with sustained reference worldwide by other authors who
: published in reputable journals or textbooks.
:
: 力.
Perhaps a safe strategy is to use the aggregate number (in comparison with
whatever statistics to give some context) as a primer to the point-by-point
analysis of each individual contribution.
quite
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: Well said: "一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力". But 300 citation number is quite
: strong IMHO, with sustained reference worldwide by other authors who
: published in reputable journals or textbooks.
:
: 力.
s*r
15 楼
Great strategy.
point
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: I surely hope so -- I got ~300 citations, too.. :)
: Perhaps a safe strategy is to use the aggregate number (in comparison with
: whatever statistics to give some context) as a primer to the point-by-point
: analysis of each individual contribution.
:
: quite
point
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: I surely hope so -- I got ~300 citations, too.. :)
: Perhaps a safe strategy is to use the aggregate number (in comparison with
: whatever statistics to give some context) as a primer to the point-by-point
: analysis of each individual contribution.
:
: quite
o*i
16 楼
除了总数300
你还有别的亮点没有
比如小media report
别人大段的引用
等等
bless
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
你还有别的亮点没有
比如小media report
别人大段的引用
等等
bless
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
o*i
17 楼
再问下
你被rfe的是contribution 还是totality？
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
你被rfe的是contribution 还是totality？
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】
: 看以前邮件，好像可以用ISI. 但是查了半天，也没有research引用数的分布图或是
: percentage?
: 被RFE了，光列总数看来不行
: 多谢
s*e
18 楼
说的有道理，不过我觉得总数加个案更有说服力。因为申请人可能只有一篇 top 1%,未
必比得上3篇 5%.
我看我的IO既说我的总数不能说明问题，因为人人都有引用，又要我举出个例
另外请教各位：
单篇ISI percentile 10% 可以作为正面的论据吗？如果自己选关键词的化，我的大部
分可以在5% 以上
谢谢
力.
published
foundational
number
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要试图用citations总数来证明contribution? 一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力.
: AAO判例多次提到总数不能说明问题, e.g.
: "Regarding the petitioner's citation record, although the petitioner
: indicates that citations to his work demonstrate a contribution of major
: significance, he has not established that the number of citations is
: significant or that a notable number of the citing authors placed unusual
: reliance on his work. It is commonplace for articles to cite other published
: works without the cited work being influential or serving as a foundational
: basis for their work. On appeal, the petitioner relies on the total number
: of citations in the aggregate. More probative of the influence of an
必比得上3篇 5%.
我看我的IO既说我的总数不能说明问题，因为人人都有引用，又要我举出个例
另外请教各位：
单篇ISI percentile 10% 可以作为正面的论据吗？如果自己选关键词的化，我的大部
分可以在5% 以上
谢谢
力.
published
foundational
number
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: 为什么要试图用citations总数来证明contribution? 一篇一篇深入挖掘才更有说服力.
: AAO判例多次提到总数不能说明问题, e.g.
: "Regarding the petitioner's citation record, although the petitioner
: indicates that citations to his work demonstrate a contribution of major
: significance, he has not established that the number of citations is
: significant or that a notable number of the citing authors placed unusual
: reliance on his work. It is commonplace for articles to cite other published
: works without the cited work being influential or serving as a foundational
: basis for their work. On appeal, the petitioner relies on the total number
: of citations in the aggregate. More probative of the influence of an
s*e
19 楼
谢谢！
attention
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: You probably want to list the Google scholar citation numbers of your
: colleagues/peers (i.e. 10 of them) in the same field/tier and compare your
: article citation number with theirs to demonstrate your career excellence;
: and, using the metrics of each single article helps too (i.e. the "attention
: " percentile of your publication)
attention
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: You probably want to list the Google scholar citation numbers of your
: colleagues/peers (i.e. 10 of them) in the same field/tier and compare your
: article citation number with theirs to demonstrate your career excellence;
: and, using the metrics of each single article helps too (i.e. the "attention
: " percentile of your publication)
s*e
20 楼
多谢！
Higher
【在 I*********D 的大作中提到】
: 总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
: Education 比较。
: 单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
Higher
【在 I*********D 的大作中提到】
: 总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
: Education 比较。
: 单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
s*e
21 楼
我就是这么想的。所以想找个比较。既然以前是过了300就比较容易过，还是要充分利
用。我是总数好过单篇。
point
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: I surely hope so -- I got ~300 citations, too.. :)
: Perhaps a safe strategy is to use the aggregate number (in comparison with
: whatever statistics to give some context) as a primer to the point-by-point
: analysis of each individual contribution.
:
: quite
用。我是总数好过单篇。
point
【在 a******t 的大作中提到】
: I surely hope so -- I got ~300 citations, too.. :)
: Perhaps a safe strategy is to use the aggregate number (in comparison with
: whatever statistics to give some context) as a primer to the point-by-point
: analysis of each individual contribution.
:
: quite
s*e
22 楼
先contribution,
然后提醒要证明totality. 我的律师除了提我的citation number和几段推荐信文字，
什么都没有。不RFE才怪
【在 o**i 的大作中提到】
: 再问下
: 你被rfe的是contribution 还是totality？
然后提醒要证明totality. 我的律师除了提我的citation number和几段推荐信文字，
什么都没有。不RFE才怪
【在 o**i 的大作中提到】
: 再问下
: 你被rfe的是contribution 还是totality？
s*e
23 楼
我有：没有media report
但是有人利用我的工作
大段引用
声称“interesting" 等
但是总觉得不够多,总想尽量作好，RFE是最后机会了。
【在 o**i 的大作中提到】
: 除了总数300
: 你还有别的亮点没有
: 比如小media report
: 别人大段的引用
: 等等
: bless
但是有人利用我的工作
大段引用
声称“interesting" 等
但是总觉得不够多,总想尽量作好，RFE是最后机会了。
【在 o**i 的大作中提到】
: 除了总数300
: 你还有别的亮点没有
: 比如小media report
: 别人大段的引用
: 等等
: bless
s*e
24 楼
多谢，这个index很有用300可以排前三了
Higher
【在 I*********D 的大作中提到】
: 总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
: Education 比较。
: 单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
Higher
【在 I*********D 的大作中提到】
: 总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
: Education 比较。
: 单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
h*y
25 楼
Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher Education
这个只有2007年的么？有没有最近的？
Higher
【在 I*********D 的大作中提到】
: 总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
: Education 比较。
: 单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
这个只有2007年的么？有没有最近的？
Higher
【在 I*********D 的大作中提到】
: 总数可以和 Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher
: Education 比较。
: 单篇引用可以和 ISI top percentage比较。
s*e
26 楼
好像没有了，版上考古是可以使，它是4年的citaion,我们只要用近四年的和它比较就
可以
Education
【在 h*********y 的大作中提到】
: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher Education
: 这个只有2007年的么？有没有最近的？
:
: Higher
可以
Education
【在 h*********y 的大作中提到】
: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index from The Chronicle of Higher Education
: 这个只有2007年的么？有没有最近的？
:
: Higher
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