老美的立场 “The H-1B visa program is a scam”# JobHunting - 待字闺中
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老美关心的还真不是H1b该给谁，而是该不该给H1b。
ICC通过各种方式获取了美国公司outsrouce出来的工作机会，再找来一大帮什么也不会
的老印，然后才有了H1B抽签的惨况。咱们关心的是抽签过程的合理性，老美关心的是
outsourcing的合理性。如果想要增加咱们自己人的抽签几率，又不损伤H1b受益人这个
整体，思考斗争策略的时候要把两件事情都考虑进来。任重道远。。。
http://betanews.com/2015/06/16/the-h-1b-visa-program-is-a-scam/
The H-1B visa program is a scam
几段摘录:
“His argument, like that of Google and many other companies often mentioned
as H-1B supporters, presupposes that there is a domestic IT labor shortage,
but there isn’t. The United States right now has plenty of qualified
workers to fill every available position. If there are indeed exceptional
jobs that can’t be filled by ANY domestic applicant, there’s still the EB-
2 visa program, which somehow doesn’t max-out every year like H-1B. How can
that be if there’s a talent shortage? In truth, H-1B has always been
unnecessary.”
"My first exposure to H1B was when I was consulting to multiple VC’s back
in the dot-com era. Several VC’s I did work for, the portfolio managers
would instruct/demand their portfolio companies hire H1B’s instead of
Americans for 'common' jobs such as programmers, DBA’s (database
administrators), network admins and even IT help desk people.
The reason of course was $$$. The H1B’s cost approx. 1/3rd or 1/4th the
cost of the comparable American in same job.
I remember this one VC board meeting where the CEO of a portfolio company
said the H1B’s in his company were complaining about their sub-standard pay
, and one of the VC partners said, "Fuck them. Tell them if they don’t like
it, we’ll toss their ass out, get another H1B to replace you and you’ll
be on your way back to India"."
“I got to know some of the H1B’s that were in the US working for us. I
asked them, "How can you afford to live here on $15/hour?" The answer was
they were living in group homes (e.g. -- 8 guys would rent a townhouse and
pool their money for food, etc.), plus had "no life" outside of work.
To which I’d ask, "why are you doing this?" The answer was "it’s better
than what we can get at home (India)" and they would manage to save some
money. But more importantly, they were getting valuable experience for when
they would return to India, they were highly sought after due to their
experience in the US.”
ICC通过各种方式获取了美国公司outsrouce出来的工作机会，再找来一大帮什么也不会
的老印，然后才有了H1B抽签的惨况。咱们关心的是抽签过程的合理性，老美关心的是
outsourcing的合理性。如果想要增加咱们自己人的抽签几率，又不损伤H1b受益人这个
整体，思考斗争策略的时候要把两件事情都考虑进来。任重道远。。。
http://betanews.com/2015/06/16/the-h-1b-visa-program-is-a-scam/
The H-1B visa program is a scam
几段摘录:
“His argument, like that of Google and many other companies often mentioned
as H-1B supporters, presupposes that there is a domestic IT labor shortage,
but there isn’t. The United States right now has plenty of qualified
workers to fill every available position. If there are indeed exceptional
jobs that can’t be filled by ANY domestic applicant, there’s still the EB-
2 visa program, which somehow doesn’t max-out every year like H-1B. How can
that be if there’s a talent shortage? In truth, H-1B has always been
unnecessary.”
"My first exposure to H1B was when I was consulting to multiple VC’s back
in the dot-com era. Several VC’s I did work for, the portfolio managers
would instruct/demand their portfolio companies hire H1B’s instead of
Americans for 'common' jobs such as programmers, DBA’s (database
administrators), network admins and even IT help desk people.
The reason of course was $$$. The H1B’s cost approx. 1/3rd or 1/4th the
cost of the comparable American in same job.
I remember this one VC board meeting where the CEO of a portfolio company
said the H1B’s in his company were complaining about their sub-standard pay
, and one of the VC partners said, "Fuck them. Tell them if they don’t like
it, we’ll toss their ass out, get another H1B to replace you and you’ll
be on your way back to India"."
“I got to know some of the H1B’s that were in the US working for us. I
asked them, "How can you afford to live here on $15/hour?" The answer was
they were living in group homes (e.g. -- 8 guys would rent a townhouse and
pool their money for food, etc.), plus had "no life" outside of work.
To which I’d ask, "why are you doing this?" The answer was "it’s better
than what we can get at home (India)" and they would manage to save some
money. But more importantly, they were getting valuable experience for when
they would return to India, they were highly sought after due to their
experience in the US.”
