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l*92014-04-30 07:04

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【以下文字转载自 Family 讨论区】
发信人: linth87 (Linth), 信区: Family
标题: 八年哥的案子总结
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 29 22:56:20 2014, 美东)
google都能搜到的报道，不能算我人肉吧。
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/05
总结起来就是这样：
当时妻子是高龄产妇（30多岁），医院提供羊水穿刺（产前诊断），妻子、丈夫都在场
，妻子不懂英文，丈夫懂英文，两人拒绝了羊穿（可以理解，羊穿本身也存在风险）。
孩子生下来以后发现有基因缺陷，于是起诉医院“没有专业翻译人员在场”。官司打了
4年，医院最后赔了700万刀。
作为医生，想想也挺心寒。

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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然后，8 年哥想甩掉老婆，带着孩子和老婆官司挣来的钱，。。。

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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http://bloom-parentingkidswithdisabilities.blogspot.com/2011/05
A letter to Mrs. Zhuang
9:31 AM boston globe; ran zhuang, prenatal testing 10 comments
Many of you read the news last week that Ran Zhuang of Boston was awarded a
$7 million settlement because her daughter was born with a genetic disorder.
Zhuang says she would have aborted the child, who is now 3, if she'd been
offered prenatal testing. I asked Amy Julia Becker (above with daughter
Penny, who has Down syndrome), to respond, and she did, with the following
letter to Mrs. Zhuang.
Let us know what you think! Louise
Dear Mrs. Zhuang:
A friend sent me the Boston Globe article about your recent lawsuit: “A
superior court judge approved a $7 million settlement yesterday in a lawsuit
brought by a Shrewsbury woman against four medical professionals at a
Worcester hospital, whom she accused of failing to offer or explain tests
that could have prompted her to have an abortion rather than carry her now-
disabled child to term, her lawyer said yesterday.”
When I read it, I felt a tightness in my chest. I felt defensive of our
daughter, who has disabilities caused by Down syndrome. I felt angry. And I
felt sad. The only thing I wrote to my friend in response to the article was
, “Ugh.”
I have two competing thoughts when I hear about your situation. One is that
every human life is valuable and meaningful, no matter the form it takes, no
matter the genetic problems involved, no matter the degree of disability.
The other is that I should feel empathy and even love towards you, that I
should try to understand. I guess the second point is really the same as the
first. Just as I believe your daughter has intrinsic value, so too do I
believe that you are a person who deserves my respect, my compassion.
Maybe you were frightened by the conversations we have had recently in this
country about health care. Maybe you thought this lawsuit was the only way
to ensure that you would be able to care for Annie in years to come. I
imagine you are very sad about some aspect of your daughter’s life. I don’
t know if she is experiencing pain and you desperately want that pain to go
away. I don’t know whether she can walk or talk or smile. I don’t know if
she keeps you up at night. I don’t know if she calls you Mama. I don’t
know if you feel worn down by the care she needs. I don’t know. But I have
to imagine that some of those things are true and as you look ahead to
decades together, you not only feel frightened and overwhelmed by what those
years will require of you, but angry and saddened by what those years may
require of your daughter. I have to imagine that you love her, as only a
mother can.
And yet.
A spokesman for the hospital said, “Events of this nature impact patients,
their families, and the providers of care, and we strive to learn from them.
" Your decision to sue sends ripples that reach beyond your personal
situation. Doctors and nurses and genetic counselors, fearful, might be more
inclined to push for prenatal genetic testing and even abortion of fetuses.
Your story may incline individuals who read about the case to think that
children with disabilities aren’t wanted by their parents, that children
with disabilities are a categorical burden on society, and that genetic
testing offers control over the outcome of individual lives. Your individual
decision to sue has consequences for the entire community.
Of course, the impact goes both ways. A child with a disability requires a
community of care. I can only imagine your situation based upon what I read
in the paper, but I wonder if you feel isolated. I know you are from China
and English is not your first language. I wish I could say that everyone in
America wants to offer support and inclusion to children and adults with
disabilities. Unfortunately, it’s not true. But there are many people in
this country who care deeply about families like yours. There are many who
would love to get to know Annie. And so I wonder whether those of us who,
like you, have children with disabilities, might be able to welcome you into
our community, whether we might be able to offer support in the hard times,
whether we might be able to share your joys and offer some comfort in your
sorrows.
Amy Julia Becker blogs at Thin Places, where she writes about faith, family
and disability.
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10 comments:
Sherry C says: May 17, 2011 at 10:09 AM Reply
That's so upsetting to me too. I hate that it devalues our children and
others with disability. My daughter has a genetic disability and needs lots
of extra help with everything but is so loved and enjoys life as much as any
other 6 year old. I believe the world is a better place because she is here
and I know my life is better with my girl. I don't understand this mothers
decisions to sue but I 'm sure there is more to this story.
Elizabeth says: May 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM Reply
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Elizabeth says: May 17, 2011 at 11:14 AM Reply
This is a world gone mad. I don't think of it in any other way.
Claire says: May 17, 2011 at 11:15 AM Reply
I have preferred to not pass judgment on people who choose to abort a
disabled fetus. It is a private choice. However...this court decision, ever
so public, is dangerous in the extreme. You know where this is going, don't
you, Louise. The tables will be turned. Prenatal testing will become
mandatory to protect against lawsuits. Parents who choose NOT to abort will
be denied services to their disabled children because of that choice. I can
see the statute now: "In cases where disability was ascertained and
preventable, the state shall not be responsible for long term assistance to
the parents of the disabled individual." We.are.so.screwed.
GB's Mom says: May 17, 2011 at 1:36 PM Reply
This is just another symptom of a society that feels if everything does not
work out perfectly it is the fault of someone else. I pray for the little
girl. I hope she never learns of her mother's lawsuit.
Lisa says: May 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM Reply
Why oh why can people not just accept that sometimes sh*t happens? That's
what I feel about my situation. It's no ones fault, not mine, not my husband
's, not the Doctors, No one. This is just what happened because sometimes
the biggest pile of cr*p will land at your door. What is important is how
you deal with it, not who you can find to sue.
Anonymous says: May 17, 2011 at 8:51 PM Reply
Julia, we all love our children, but the reality is that there is simply not
a support structure in place now, or for the future of children with
disabilities.
Irene says: May 18, 2011 at 12:56 AM Reply
This is so sad. Without justifying her actions, I think this mom was only
thinking about the implications for her family and her daughter financially,
and not the bigger picture of what a lawsuit might mean for others. While I
read this letter, I kept thinking of the book "Handle with Care" by Jody
Picoult, in which a mother of a child with osteogenisis imperfecta (brittle
bone syndrome),launches a lawsuit against her OB GYN for "wrongful birth"
stating that had she been offered available prenatal testing, she would have
terminated the pregnancy. She loved her daughter, but wanted to ensure that
she was getting her child the best care possible to meet her complex needs.
I hope that this was the case in this real life example...
Anonymous says: May 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM Reply
I think its a little unfair to judge this woman's decision; as Amy Julia
said, there are so many things we DON'T know about this case. Judgment comes
across as preachy and puts this woman down. I would rather see a letter
reaching out to this woman and asking her questions, instead of making
statements that will automatically put her on the defensive. My two cents.
Say it like it is says: June 24, 2011 at 6:44 PM Reply
No, it's not unfair to judge her decision; it was calculated and she has
told the world that her daughter shouldn't have been born and that her own
mother doesn't want her as she is. For shame. Enough of the mollycoddling. I
don't care if she feels defensive; maybe she ought to. Enough said.
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l*a2014-04-30 07:04

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这个基本不可能，原告是老婆，而且这笔钱两人没有处置权。

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: 然后，8 年哥想甩掉老婆，带着孩子和老婆官司挣来的钱，。。。

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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也许海龟

【在 l******a 的大作中提到】

: 这个基本不可能，原告是老婆，而且这笔钱两人没有处置权。

l*a2014-04-30 07:04

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那钱房子和孩子都留给老婆了，不挺好

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: 也许海龟

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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钱是放在trust里面给娃成年以后用的
换你，你愿意选择有这么多钱，但是要永远照顾生病的娃，还是没这么多钱有个健康的
娃？

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: 然后，8 年哥想甩掉老婆，带着孩子和老婆官司挣来的钱，。。。

l*a2014-04-30 07:04

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话说回来，这本来就是他们自己的错啊，高龄产妇不做羊穿？这能怪谁呢。。。

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 钱是放在trust里面给娃成年以后用的
: 换你，你愿意选择有这么多钱，但是要永远照顾生病的娃，还是没这么多钱有个健康的
: 娃？

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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我和这个案子无关！
他没有健康瓦的选择，现在对于他而言，这个娃就是钱包

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 钱是放在trust里面给娃成年以后用的
: 换你，你愿意选择有这么多钱，但是要永远照顾生病的娃，还是没这么多钱有个健康的
: 娃？

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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标题: Re: 家班那个8年男
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w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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我的老心脏啊，总以为自己见过很多了，却总有更多DRAMA让我咂舌
不知道说什么好了，这个老婆是真的弱势群体啊
不会英语，抑郁症住院，对孩子抚养权和700万一点竞争力都没有
算我美剧看多了，波士顿附近的朋友还是注意一下啊
这个老婆别哪天被8年男送进精神病院了
在美国，配偶的权利比父母权利大，进去了没有8年男签字就出不来
唉，这个官司居然赢了，美国，让我说你什么好呢？
难怪患者抱怨医院收费太高，医院吐槽自己风险和成本更高

【在 l******a 的大作中提到】

: 话说回来，这本来就是他们自己的错啊，高龄产妇不做羊穿？这能怪谁呢。。。

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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发信人: mynight (一束星光), 信区: Dreamer
标题: Re: 家班那个8年男
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 29 19:36:23 2014, 美东)
我能说我一点也不觉得感人吗？
春秋笔法很严重，比如说打赢了连老婆都觉得没希望的索赔官司，自己都不敢详述小孩
有问题的原因到底是什么，医闹形象跃然纸上。
打赢官司并不代表有理是绝对的，这就是美国为何妇产科医生保险最贵的原因，小孩有
问题sue医生是很容易赢的。
我有朋友也有问题小孩，还无处索赔，苦多了，也没见这么长篇大论出来励志的。
关键是，扮演高大上励志人士都不忘踹上老婆几脚的行为，绝对WS本性。

发信人: Dreamer (不要问我从哪里来), 信区: Dreamer
标题: Re: 家班那个8年男
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 29 19:48:33 2014, 美东)
可能因为这个官司的原因，我09年生之前，非要给我们找个翻译，我说都在美国十几年
，学习工作，都不行，非要等翻译。

s*j2014-04-30 07:04

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又是BOSTON的?

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 我的老心脏啊，总以为自己见过很多了，却总有更多DRAMA让我咂舌
: 不知道说什么好了，这个老婆是真的弱势群体啊
: 不会英语，抑郁症住院，对孩子抚养权和700万一点竞争力都没有
: 算我美剧看多了，波士顿附近的朋友还是注意一下啊
: 这个老婆别哪天被8年男送进精神病院了
: 在美国，配偶的权利比父母权利大，进去了没有8年男签字就出不来
: 唉，这个官司居然赢了，美国，让我说你什么好呢？
: 难怪患者抱怨医院收费太高，医院吐槽自己风险和成本更高

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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保险公司出钱。这个不算赔得多的

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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和波士顿关系不大，农牧大学，兽医研究所

【在 s*****j 的大作中提到】

: 又是BOSTON的?

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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这么多年，孩子主要是妈妈照顾，打官司的话，8年男争不到孩子的。就怕谋杀老婆，
既然已经去雀斑搭讪多年了

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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羊毛出羊身上，保险公司要医院交的钱肯定也多啊
保险公司又不是福利院

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: 保险公司出钱。这个不算赔得多的

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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嗯，这个确实挺遗憾的
不过我听说羊穿有风险，有些大龄的父母可能会赌一把
这个就不知道他们夫妻当时到底是怎么想的了

【在 l******a 的大作中提到】

: 话说回来，这本来就是他们自己的错啊，高龄产妇不做羊穿？这能怪谁呢。。。

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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什么钱包呀？谁愿意通过这手段赚这么多钱，你把人心想得太黑暗了
当初打官司的时候，谁知道能不能打赢，几率又不大。万一真没打赢，还不是要照顾娃。

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: 我和这个案子无关！
: 他没有健康瓦的选择，现在对于他而言，这个娃就是钱包

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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“这个老婆别哪天被8年男送进精神病院了”
你想象力太丰富了

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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羊穿之前我记得还有个测验的，如果测验结果风险高还是羊穿好
羊穿的风险其实很小，未必比麻醉药风险大

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 嗯，这个确实挺遗憾的
: 不过我听说羊穿有风险，有些大龄的父母可能会赌一把
: 这个就不知道他们夫妻当时到底是怎么想的了

w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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既然已经没有爱了，加上有利益关系，不得不防

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: “这个老婆别哪天被8年男送进精神病院了”
: 你想象力太丰富了

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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所有人的保险都会增加

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 羊毛出羊身上，保险公司要医院交的钱肯定也多啊
: 保险公司又不是福利院

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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当初他准备离婚的时候，就是打算2/3的钱给他老婆的
现在钱就算多了很多，也不会彻底一脚踢开的

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 既然已经没有爱了，加上有利益关系，不得不防

l*n2014-04-30 07:04

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我估计这事要是发生在国内，他们夫妻多半情况下都不会要这个娃了。因为娃最开始是
被送走了的。拿回来估计也多半是因为打官司。他们不做羊穿是赌博，同样官司也是赌
博，一脉相成,这种人性格里面赌博的意识太浓重了。官司如果输了，还真不好说，是
继续养还是送走。

娃。

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 什么钱包呀？谁愿意通过这手段赚这么多钱，你把人心想得太黑暗了
: 当初打官司的时候，谁知道能不能打赢，几率又不大。万一真没打赢，还不是要照顾娃。

w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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这是8年男的一面之词，昨天我信，今天我觉得未必是真的

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 当初他准备离婚的时候，就是打算2/3的钱给他老婆的
: 现在钱就算多了很多，也不会彻底一脚踢开的

M*k2014-04-30 07:04

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这不也是站着说话不腰疼。

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 这是8年男的一面之词，昨天我信，今天我觉得未必是真的

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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每个人都是复杂的，8年哥可能是有赌博的成分，但是肯定也想过愿赌服输的
要不然为啥一直坚持带娃康复，训练上厕所，训练走路
干脆啥都不管，把娃往床上一扔，管吃就好，打官司就行了

【在 l******n 的大作中提到】

: 我估计这事要是发生在国内，他们夫妻多半情况下都不会要这个娃了。因为娃最开始是
: 被送走了的。拿回来估计也多半是因为打官司。他们不做羊穿是赌博，同样官司也是赌
: 博，一脉相成,这种人性格里面赌博的意识太浓重了。官司如果输了，还真不好说，是
: 继续养还是送走。
:
: 娃。

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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按八年哥的一贯行径，官司如果输掉的话，孩子肯定给出去让别人养

娃。

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

r*f2014-04-30 07:04

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说是这么说，到了个人真发生了就是百分百风险了
中国人多半不会要残疾胚胎，老美一般还是会要的吧。社会文化制度传统的差别。。。

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 羊穿之前我记得还有个测验的，如果测验结果风险高还是羊穿好
: 羊穿的风险其实很小，未必比麻醉药风险大

g*o2014-04-30 07:04

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你这就是随意揣测了

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: 按八年哥的一贯行径，官司如果输掉的话，孩子肯定给出去让别人养
:
: 娃。

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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那时没有几个钱，现在，谁彻底啊，他鸭的没有机会的

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 当初他准备离婚的时候，就是打算2/3的钱给他老婆的
: 现在钱就算多了很多，也不会彻底一脚踢开的

w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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不算，我已经全麻过2次了，每次都被医生一阵吓唬
之所以要羊穿，是有原因的，不是无缘无故存在这个风险的
比较之下，当然羊穿风险比生非正常儿风险小

【在 M******k 的大作中提到】

: 这不也是站着说话不腰疼。

w*t2014-04-30 07:04

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是，所以我知道的中国夫妻，就算纠结一番，最后也还是接受羊穿的多
老美有些人因为宗教信仰，不在乎残疾胚胎，自然是拒绝羊穿

【在 r*f 的大作中提到】

: 说是这么说，到了个人真发生了就是百分百风险了
: 中国人多半不会要残疾胚胎，老美一般还是会要的吧。社会文化制度传统的差别。。。

r*f2014-04-30 07:04

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你你你为啥全麻了？pat pat

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 不算，我已经全麻过2次了，每次都被医生一阵吓唬
: 之所以要羊穿，是有原因的，不是无缘无故存在这个风险的
: 比较之下，当然羊穿风险比生非正常儿风险小

l*92014-04-30 07:04

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我的揣测是有依据的，你的揣测是无依据的

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 你这就是随意揣测了

l*n2014-04-30 07:04

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反了吧，爱赌的人就不会愿赌服输的。看他们做的事吧，羊穿没做，出了问题，就找医
院；那完全有很大可能，官司输了再把娃送走嘛。
他把娃训练好了，对他自己生活轻松也有很大的好处，是win win

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 每个人都是复杂的，8年哥可能是有赌博的成分，但是肯定也想过愿赌服输的
: 要不然为啥一直坚持带娃康复，训练上厕所，训练走路
: 干脆啥都不管，把娃往床上一扔，管吃就好，打官司就行了

i*e2014-04-30 07:04

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什么事情都是有风险的
人生就是一个决定接着另一个决定
12，13周的时候可以验血查染色体
看颈厚度决定要不要抽羊水做进一步的检查
抽羊水（可能会引起流产） vs 小孩子有问题的话父母得担待一辈子
每个人选择不同吧

【在 M******k 的大作中提到】

: 这不也是站着说话不腰疼。

r*f2014-04-30 07:04

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他的口气很乐观，但是，个中艰辛，哪怕万中之一，恐怕都不是别的家长能贴切地感觉
到的。

【在 l******n 的大作中提到】

: 反了吧，爱赌的人就不会愿赌服输的。看他们做的事吧，羊穿没做，出了问题，就找医
: 院；那完全有很大可能，官司输了再把娃送走嘛。
: 他把娃训练好了，对他自己生活轻松也有很大的好处，是win win

i*e2014-04-30 07:04

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没有绝对的权利
但是谁有孩子的监护权谁就可以申请动用这笔钱

【在 l******a 的大作中提到】

: 这个基本不可能，原告是老婆，而且这笔钱两人没有处置权。

s*t2014-04-30 07:04

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高清B超技术的应用使得羊穿造成的流产风险已经很低了，比唐氏儿的概率要低。

【在 g*****o 的大作中提到】

: 嗯，这个确实挺遗憾的
: 不过我听说羊穿有风险，有些大龄的父母可能会赌一把
: 这个就不知道他们夫妻当时到底是怎么想的了

i*e2014-04-30 07:04

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所以要坚持做羊穿啊，大妈们！ //run
我更佩服那些决定不做羊穿，生个啥就积极养啥的完全接受自己娃的人

【在 r*f 的大作中提到】

: 他的口气很乐观，但是，个中艰辛，哪怕万中之一，恐怕都不是别的家长能贴切地感觉
: 到的。

t*o2014-04-30 07:04

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是什么让他们当初决定不做穿刺呢？危险还是费用问题？

a
disorder.
following

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】

: http://bloom-parentingkidswithdisabilities.blogspot.com/2011/05
: A letter to Mrs. Zhuang
: 9:31 AM boston globe; ran zhuang, prenatal testing 10 comments
: Many of you read the news last week that Ran Zhuang of Boston was awarded a
: $7 million settlement because her daughter was born with a genetic disorder.
: Zhuang says she would have aborted the child, who is now 3, if she'd been
: offered prenatal testing. I asked Amy Julia Becker (above with daughter
: Penny, who has Down syndrome), to respond, and she did, with the following
: letter to Mrs. Zhuang.
: Let us know what you think! Louise

a*g2014-04-30 07:04

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解释一下：把娃要回来以LP的名义打官司，又要给LP准备离婚协议？

【在 l******n 的大作中提到】

A*e2014-04-30 07:04

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应该不是费用，35岁以上保险都cover吧？
原因可能有二，
一是真不懂
二是侥幸，怕羊穿对胎儿不好，没有做。

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【在 t*****o 的大作中提到】

: 是什么让他们当初决定不做穿刺呢？危险还是费用问题？
:
: a
: disorder.
: following

t*h2014-04-30 07:04

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有一个可能是八哥要把孩子要回来, 也要打官司, 老婆不同意要回孩子,
他就写了离婚协议做威胁. 老婆害怕失去他,只好答应要回孩子打官司.
要不然他一边坚持打官司,一边高姿态得给老婆离婚协议,解释不通.
要是老婆签了离婚协议,那个官司就跟他没什么关系了.
他不能做原告,因为他不能跟法官说他不懂英语.

【在 a****g 的大作中提到】

: 解释一下：把娃要回来以LP的名义打官司，又要给LP准备离婚协议？

N*n2014-04-30 07:04

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羊穿造成流产风险，全美平均是1/200左右。好一些的诊所是1/1500左右。所以很多人
如果genetic screen出来异常的风险比这个数字小，就选择不做羊穿了，尤其是高龄怀
孕困难的

【在 w********t 的大作中提到】

: 羊穿之前我记得还有个测验的，如果测验结果风险高还是羊穿好
: 羊穿的风险其实很小，未必比麻醉药风险大

a*g2014-04-30 07:04

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8G真像国军，一切尽在掌握中，牛人啊！要是早点离婚威胁，女儿就更早回家了。
我怎么这么笨，没有想到这个可能？
真相看来只能靠8嫂二面之词了。

【在 t***h 的大作中提到】

: 有一个可能是八哥要把孩子要回来, 也要打官司, 老婆不同意要回孩子,
: 他就写了离婚协议做威胁. 老婆害怕失去他,只好答应要回孩子打官司.
: 要不然他一边坚持打官司,一边高姿态得给老婆离婚协议,解释不通.
: 要是老婆签了离婚协议,那个官司就跟他没什么关系了.
: 他不能做原告,因为他不能跟法官说他不懂英语.