1) 诺贝尔奖得主的平均智商是144左右 -> 很简单的解释是智商144只是一个必要 条件,而非充分条件。 Sorry. It is not necessary since 144 is simply an average, not the minimum. 2) 在我看来,进顶尖大学不一定是必要条件,但师从大师级人物(最好是诺奖得主,起 码要美国院士),从事有得奖潜力方向的研究绝对是必要条件。 If this is true, it seems to hint that creativity has to be taught by another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a person's creativity).
P*r
34 楼
ft ryan reynolds got dumped?
s*g
35 楼
no way 最多15
【在 l*****7 的大作中提到】 : no : 最多拿$300的bonus
l*a
36 楼
Resume, resume, resume. 师从大师级人物 will open a lot of doors for us if we want to do research. This is called the X-factor.
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】 : 1) 诺贝尔奖得主的平均智商是144左右 -> 很简单的解释是智商144只是一个必要 : 条件,而非充分条件。 : Sorry. It is not necessary since 144 is simply an average, not the minimum. : 2) 在我看来,进顶尖大学不一定是必要条件,但师从大师级人物(最好是诺奖得主,起 : 码要美国院士),从事有得奖潜力方向的研究绝对是必要条件。 : If this is true, it seems to hint that creativity has to be taught by another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a person's creativity).
Your statement does have its merits. However, if the purpose of joining a big-name lab is for a more smooth sailing of one's future in research, then this action itself is no different from a Pushing Mom who wants her child to have a better life in the future. Hence the conclusion reached by following the logic of how to get a Nobel prize runs against the points the author of this thread was trying to prove.
we want to do research. This is called the X-factor.
【在 l**********a 的大作中提到】 : : Resume, resume, resume. 师从大师级人物 will open a lot of doors for us if we want to do research. This is called the X-factor.
then to the I was lost in this thread since the article is so long :-) I am not sure what conclusion the author was trying to reach. However, the author, indeed, has some points.
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】 : Your statement does have its merits. However, if the purpose of joining a : big-name lab is for a more smooth sailing of one's future in research, then : this action itself is no different from a Pushing Mom who wants her child to : have a better life in the future. Hence the conclusion reached by : following the logic of how to get a Nobel prize runs against the points the : author of this thread was trying to prove. : : we want to do research. This is called the X-factor.
N*m
43 楼
他什么时候跟基努里维斯好上的?
【在 P********r 的大作中提到】 : ft : ryan reynolds got dumped?
V*n
44 楼
对我主贴文章引发的一些质疑我想借此一并作答 6楼:钟形对称分布的智商曲线三个数学上常用的平均值是一样的。您举的人类腿的数 目不是连续分布的,而且在dicrete分布里也是很特别只有少数几个值的分布,所以在 此并不适用。“根据定义只应该有50%超过平均”这个常识Charles Murray在他新出的书 Real Education: Four Simple Truths for Bringing America's Schools Back to Reality http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307405389/?tag=catoinstitute-20 里被用做最重要的论据之一,用来论证美国为什么不应该让一半的高中生上大学(因为 没有一半的学生智商能够达到真正理解大学课程的程度)。他最著名的书是十多年前出 的十分政治不正确的书: “Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life ” http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Curve-Intelligence-Structur
【在 V****n 的大作中提到】 : 对我主贴文章引发的一些质疑我想借此一并作答 : 6楼:钟形对称分布的智商曲线三个数学上常用的平均值是一样的。您举的人类腿的数 : 目不是连续分布的,而且在dicrete分布里也是很特别只有少数几个值的分布,所以在 : 此并不适用。“根据定义只应该有50%超过平均”这个常识Charles Murray在他新出的书 : Real Education: Four Simple Truths for Bringing America's Schools Back to : Reality : http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307405389/?tag=catoinstitute-20 : 里被用做最重要的论据之一,用来论证美国为什么不应该让一半的高中生上大学(因为 : 没有一半的学生智商能够达到真正理解大学课程的程度)。他最著名的书是十多年前出 : 的十分政治不正确的书:
k*y
47 楼
What?! 47 years old? I feel sad... ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.28
c*e
48 楼
hehe, you even know steven hsu's blog and ed witten, interesting. but better write a summary. even then, can't summarize everything into a rule. and what chinese do with their kids traditionally is effective enough in my opinion.
minimum. another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a person's creativity).
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】 : 1) 诺贝尔奖得主的平均智商是144左右 -> 很简单的解释是智商144只是一个必要 : 条件,而非充分条件。 : Sorry. It is not necessary since 144 is simply an average, not the minimum. : 2) 在我看来,进顶尖大学不一定是必要条件,但师从大师级人物(最好是诺奖得主,起 : 码要美国院士),从事有得奖潜力方向的研究绝对是必要条件。 : If this is true, it seems to hint that creativity has to be taught by another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a person's creativity).
关于第二点,能不能跟大师级人物也是双向选择,所以一个可能的hypothesis就是大师 有慧眼,被挑中的人多半有创造力的潜质,因而这里大师的作用不在于言传身教,而是 send a valid signal,相当于filter或者senior peer review。
minimum. another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a person's creativity).
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】 : 1) 诺贝尔奖得主的平均智商是144左右 -> 很简单的解释是智商144只是一个必要 : 条件,而非充分条件。 : Sorry. It is not necessary since 144 is simply an average, not the minimum. : 2) 在我看来,进顶尖大学不一定是必要条件,但师从大师级人物(最好是诺奖得主,起 : 码要美国院士),从事有得奖潜力方向的研究绝对是必要条件。 : If this is true, it seems to hint that creativity has to be taught by another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a person's creativity).
M*c
59 楼
知识积累需要过程,学术也是,有时不是一代人可以完成的。
【在 M***e 的大作中提到】 : 关于第二点,能不能跟大师级人物也是双向选择,所以一个可能的hypothesis就是大师 : 有慧眼,被挑中的人多半有创造力的潜质,因而这里大师的作用不在于言传身教,而是 : send a valid signal,相当于filter或者senior peer review。 : : minimum. : another creative person (if you declare that Nobel prize is a measure of a : person's creativity).