l*7
2 楼
看我们小伙子帅不帅!
爷爷要二签来看宝宝,求祝福!!
爷爷要二签来看宝宝,求祝福!!
u*n
3 楼
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/world/world/general/greek-
Greek debt agreement will collapse within three months: Soros
BY KAMAL AHMED, IN LONDON
31 Oct, 2011 04:00 AM
Veteran investor George Soros has attacked the lack of leadership at the top
of the eurozone and said that the new Brussels ''deal'' to solve the debt
crisis will last only between ''one day and three months''.
Mr Soros, who achieved worldwide fame when he bet against sterling remaining
within the Exchange Rate Mechanism in the 1990s, said the 50per cent ''
haircut'' on private bond holders would reduce Greek debt by only 20per cent.
He said that was insufficient to stop an economic decline in Greece which
would lead to greater social unrest.
His words came as the eurozone appeared to be heading for further economic
trouble as investors started to express scepticism about the rescue deal
announced on Thursday. This weekend Goldman Sachs said the eurozone
countries were heading for a ''mild recession'' as confidence waned.
''Given the magnitude of the crisis, it is again too little too late,'' Mr
Soros said of the Brussels deal at a dinner organised by Pi Capital investor
network.
''It will bring relief partly because the markets were so obsessed by the
lack of leadership. The mere fact that something was achieved was a major
relief and it will be good for any time from one day to three months.
''Unfortunately it is not the last crisis because the fundamental issues
have not been settled. It is clear that the amount of debt that Greece has
accumulated and is accumulating is untenable and the country is effectively
insolvent.''
Mr Soros argued that many banks might not voluntarily join the deal as they
would want to wait for the insurance offered by the credit default swaps
they hold against the debt to be triggered. At present because the haircut
is voluntary, European leaders have said the Greek default is not considered
a ''credit event'' which would spark credit default swap payouts and
possibly a new financial crisis.
''Unfortunately, the 50per cent haircut is effectively less than a 20per
cent reduction in the overall debt [for Greece] because it only involves the
private sector and excludes all the debt that is held by the ECB [European
Central Bank] and the other public authorities and also the debt held by
Greece because the banks, of course, will now be insolvent and the pension
funds also,'' Mr Soros said.
Greek debt agreement will collapse within three months: Soros
BY KAMAL AHMED, IN LONDON
31 Oct, 2011 04:00 AM
Veteran investor George Soros has attacked the lack of leadership at the top
of the eurozone and said that the new Brussels ''deal'' to solve the debt
crisis will last only between ''one day and three months''.
Mr Soros, who achieved worldwide fame when he bet against sterling remaining
within the Exchange Rate Mechanism in the 1990s, said the 50per cent ''
haircut'' on private bond holders would reduce Greek debt by only 20per cent.
He said that was insufficient to stop an economic decline in Greece which
would lead to greater social unrest.
His words came as the eurozone appeared to be heading for further economic
trouble as investors started to express scepticism about the rescue deal
announced on Thursday. This weekend Goldman Sachs said the eurozone
countries were heading for a ''mild recession'' as confidence waned.
''Given the magnitude of the crisis, it is again too little too late,'' Mr
Soros said of the Brussels deal at a dinner organised by Pi Capital investor
network.
''It will bring relief partly because the markets were so obsessed by the
lack of leadership. The mere fact that something was achieved was a major
relief and it will be good for any time from one day to three months.
''Unfortunately it is not the last crisis because the fundamental issues
have not been settled. It is clear that the amount of debt that Greece has
accumulated and is accumulating is untenable and the country is effectively
insolvent.''
Mr Soros argued that many banks might not voluntarily join the deal as they
would want to wait for the insurance offered by the credit default swaps
they hold against the debt to be triggered. At present because the haircut
is voluntary, European leaders have said the Greek default is not considered
a ''credit event'' which would spark credit default swap payouts and
possibly a new financial crisis.
''Unfortunately, the 50per cent haircut is effectively less than a 20per
cent reduction in the overall debt [for Greece] because it only involves the
private sector and excludes all the debt that is held by the ECB [European
Central Bank] and the other public authorities and also the debt held by
Greece because the banks, of course, will now be insolvent and the pension
funds also,'' Mr Soros said.
c*g
5 楼
嗯,小宝很帅!bless爷爷
S*t
6 楼
就算崩溃,也可能影响不了短的时间周期内的走势
短期还是要用ta和好的操作习惯来胜出阿
长期确实看不到牛的膜样,除非失业率猛降
短期还是要用ta和好的操作习惯来胜出阿
长期确实看不到牛的膜样,除非失业率猛降
H*u
7 楼
为啥难过?省出时间来玩玩也不错啊
T*t
8 楼
祝爷爷顺利拿到签证!
宝宝真可爱!
宝宝真可爱!
d*2
9 楼
一句话, 除了印钱, 无解。
d*o
11 楼
好帅!祝福爷爷
d*e
14 楼
祝福!
S*t
15 楼
GDP 2.5% 的话及格线把,估计不会印钱了
不过话说回来。。。如果真印钱对我们来说是好事
直接无脑all in long就行了。。。
不过话说回来。。。如果真印钱对我们来说是好事
直接无脑all in long就行了。。。
h*y
17 楼
帅
u*n
18 楼
第二页:
''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
leadership how to deal with the market is really quite astounding.
''You have to lead markets, that is what they don't understand.''
''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
leadership how to deal with the market is really quite astounding.
''You have to lead markets, that is what they don't understand.''
u*n
24 楼
Italy 十年期债券利率6.16%, 要出大问题了。
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
e*r
26 楼
好精神的小伙. bless爷爷签证
J*2
29 楼
Bless
a*c
30 楼
But the banks already agreed a 50% haircut (after being locked inside until
4am). What can they do to trigger the credit event?
this
default
the
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
4am). What can they do to trigger the credit event?
this
default
the
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
l*u
32 楼
哈哈。小手套。。
bless..
bless..
c*y
33 楼
不是中国要出手了么,那不就搞定了么
p*d
37 楼
帅!祝福!
L*7
39 楼
帅就一个字!
l*7
43 楼
谢谢各位叔叔阿姨的夸奖和祝福!
l*y
45 楼
宝宝很帅啊。bless!!
u*n
46 楼
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/world/world/general/greek-
Greek debt agreement will collapse within three months: Soros
BY KAMAL AHMED, IN LONDON
31 Oct, 2011 04:00 AM
Veteran investor George Soros has attacked the lack of leadership at the top
of the eurozone and said that the new Brussels ''deal'' to solve the debt
crisis will last only between ''one day and three months''.
Mr Soros, who achieved worldwide fame when he bet against sterling remaining
within the Exchange Rate Mechanism in the 1990s, said the 50per cent ''
haircut'' on private bond holders would reduce Greek debt by only 20per cent.
He said that was insufficient to stop an economic decline in Greece which
would lead to greater social unrest.
His words came as the eurozone appeared to be heading for further economic
trouble as investors started to express scepticism about the rescue deal
announced on Thursday. This weekend Goldman Sachs said the eurozone
countries were heading for a ''mild recession'' as confidence waned.
''Given the magnitude of the crisis, it is again too little too late,'' Mr
Soros said of the Brussels deal at a dinner organised by Pi Capital investor
network.
''It will bring relief partly because the markets were so obsessed by the
lack of leadership. The mere fact that something was achieved was a major
relief and it will be good for any time from one day to three months.
''Unfortunately it is not the last crisis because the fundamental issues
have not been settled. It is clear that the amount of debt that Greece has
accumulated and is accumulating is untenable and the country is effectively
insolvent.''
Mr Soros argued that many banks might not voluntarily join the deal as they
would want to wait for the insurance offered by the credit default swaps
they hold against the debt to be triggered. At present because the haircut
is voluntary, European leaders have said the Greek default is not considered
a ''credit event'' which would spark credit default swap payouts and
possibly a new financial crisis.
''Unfortunately, the 50per cent haircut is effectively less than a 20per
cent reduction in the overall debt [for Greece] because it only involves the
private sector and excludes all the debt that is held by the ECB [European
Central Bank] and the other public authorities and also the debt held by
Greece because the banks, of course, will now be insolvent and the pension
funds also,'' Mr Soros said.
Greek debt agreement will collapse within three months: Soros
BY KAMAL AHMED, IN LONDON
31 Oct, 2011 04:00 AM
Veteran investor George Soros has attacked the lack of leadership at the top
of the eurozone and said that the new Brussels ''deal'' to solve the debt
crisis will last only between ''one day and three months''.
Mr Soros, who achieved worldwide fame when he bet against sterling remaining
within the Exchange Rate Mechanism in the 1990s, said the 50per cent ''
haircut'' on private bond holders would reduce Greek debt by only 20per cent.
He said that was insufficient to stop an economic decline in Greece which
would lead to greater social unrest.
His words came as the eurozone appeared to be heading for further economic
trouble as investors started to express scepticism about the rescue deal
announced on Thursday. This weekend Goldman Sachs said the eurozone
countries were heading for a ''mild recession'' as confidence waned.
''Given the magnitude of the crisis, it is again too little too late,'' Mr
Soros said of the Brussels deal at a dinner organised by Pi Capital investor
network.
''It will bring relief partly because the markets were so obsessed by the
lack of leadership. The mere fact that something was achieved was a major
relief and it will be good for any time from one day to three months.
''Unfortunately it is not the last crisis because the fundamental issues
have not been settled. It is clear that the amount of debt that Greece has
accumulated and is accumulating is untenable and the country is effectively
insolvent.''
Mr Soros argued that many banks might not voluntarily join the deal as they
would want to wait for the insurance offered by the credit default swaps
they hold against the debt to be triggered. At present because the haircut
is voluntary, European leaders have said the Greek default is not considered
a ''credit event'' which would spark credit default swap payouts and
possibly a new financial crisis.
''Unfortunately, the 50per cent haircut is effectively less than a 20per
cent reduction in the overall debt [for Greece] because it only involves the
private sector and excludes all the debt that is held by the ECB [European
Central Bank] and the other public authorities and also the debt held by
Greece because the banks, of course, will now be insolvent and the pension
funds also,'' Mr Soros said.
A*k
47 楼
祝福!并请问宝宝的小手套哪里买的,看着可爱又很松,不会勒到宝宝
S*t
48 楼
就算崩溃,也可能影响不了短的时间周期内的走势
短期还是要用ta和好的操作习惯来胜出阿
长期确实看不到牛的膜样,除非失业率猛降
短期还是要用ta和好的操作习惯来胜出阿
长期确实看不到牛的膜样,除非失业率猛降
e*n
49 楼
bless
d*2
50 楼
一句话, 除了印钱, 无解。
T*O
51 楼
帅!
Bless!
Bless!
S*t
54 楼
GDP 2.5% 的话及格线把,估计不会印钱了
不过话说回来。。。如果真印钱对我们来说是好事
直接无脑all in long就行了。。。
不过话说回来。。。如果真印钱对我们来说是好事
直接无脑all in long就行了。。。
s*r
55 楼
bless
u*n
56 楼
第二页:
''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
leadership how to deal with the market is really quite astounding.
''You have to lead markets, that is what they don't understand.''
''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
leadership how to deal with the market is really quite astounding.
''You have to lead markets, that is what they don't understand.''
M*U
57 楼
CUTE
BLESS
BLESS
b*9
59 楼
祝福可爱的丁丁
u*n
60 楼
Italy 十年期债券利率6.16%, 要出大问题了。
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
q*i
61 楼
都能看报纸了,真棒!bless
s*s
63 楼
handsome boy! bless!
a*c
64 楼
But the banks already agreed a 50% haircut (after being locked inside until
4am). What can they do to trigger the credit event?
this
default
the
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
4am). What can they do to trigger the credit event?
this
default
the
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 第二页:
: ''It is not at all clear that the private sector will actually deliver this
: voluntary cut because many of the banks are hedged by holding credit default
: swaps and this doesn't trigger the credit default swaps. As a private
: institution you could argue that it is the fiduciary responsibility of the
: board to look to the benefit of the bank rather than the common benefit.
: ''So, from the banks' point of view it is better to have a credit event
: where the CDS becomes active and protects them from the loss. That is an
: unsolved problem which may emerge in the next few weeks.
: ''The failure in terms of governance and the lack of understanding among the
w*a
65 楼
blessing
c*y
66 楼
不是中国要出手了么,那不就搞定了么
n*s
69 楼
100天?很精神呀!!!
l*7
71 楼
小手套是姥姥从国内带来的。
m*a
81 楼
hoho, 跟我家宝宝一样有一个conehead遗留下来的长头顶.
以后量身高占便宜了.
以后量身高占便宜了.
H*7
83 楼
BLESS
m*n
85 楼
bless
s*l
87 楼
bless
z*e
88 楼
IIF agreed at 4AM to an voluntary haircut, and IIF can not legally/
contractually force the banks to involuntarily do it. The banks can simply
choose not to participate
until
【在 a****c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: But the banks already agreed a 50% haircut (after being locked inside until
: 4am). What can they do to trigger the credit event?
:
: this
: default
: the
contractually force the banks to involuntarily do it. The banks can simply
choose not to participate
until
【在 a****c 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: But the banks already agreed a 50% haircut (after being locked inside until
: 4am). What can they do to trigger the credit event?
:
: this
: default
: the
b*s
89 楼
cute!!!
bless!
bless!
k*y
91 楼
是个帅宝宝!
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