m*n
3 楼
u
l*6
4 楼
还是wiki给力啊,这里面有charity donation fraud的监管部门信息,FBI 貌似管的
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_fraud
在这个网站(http://www.ic3.gov/media/2011/110311.aspx)说道:
If you believe you have been a victim of a charity related scheme, contact
the National Center for Disaster Fraud by telephone at (866) 720-5721, or by
fax at (225) 334-4707, or by e-mail at d******[email protected] You can also
report suspicious e-mail solicitations or fraudulent websites to the
Internet Crime Complaint Center at www.IC3.gov.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_fraud
在这个网站(http://www.ic3.gov/media/2011/110311.aspx)说道:
If you believe you have been a victim of a charity related scheme, contact
the National Center for Disaster Fraud by telephone at (866) 720-5721, or by
fax at (225) 334-4707, or by e-mail at d******[email protected] You can also
report suspicious e-mail solicitations or fraudulent websites to the
Internet Crime Complaint Center at www.IC3.gov.
K*i
5 楼
呵呵,于德立昨天不还撺掇康黑举报去么?
C*r
6 楼
恩,有印象
s*l
7 楼
哦
x*i
8 楼
请捐款受害人向National Center for Disaster Fraud举报
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WaterWorld/2305457.html
by
【在 l*****6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 还是wiki给力啊,这里面有charity donation fraud的监管部门信息,FBI 貌似管的
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_fraud
: 在这个网站(http://www.ic3.gov/media/2011/110311.aspx)说道:
: If you believe you have been a victim of a charity related scheme, contact
: the National Center for Disaster Fraud by telephone at (866) 720-5721, or by
: fax at (225) 334-4707, or by e-mail at d******[email protected] You can also
: report suspicious e-mail solicitations or fraudulent websites to the
: Internet Crime Complaint Center at www.IC3.gov.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WaterWorld/2305457.html
by
【在 l*****6 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 还是wiki给力啊,这里面有charity donation fraud的监管部门信息,FBI 貌似管的
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_fraud
: 在这个网站(http://www.ic3.gov/media/2011/110311.aspx)说道:
: If you believe you have been a victim of a charity related scheme, contact
: the National Center for Disaster Fraud by telephone at (866) 720-5721, or by
: fax at (225) 334-4707, or by e-mail at d******[email protected] You can also
: report suspicious e-mail solicitations or fraudulent websites to the
: Internet Crime Complaint Center at www.IC3.gov.
C*r
9 楼
顶
【在 x*********i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 请捐款受害人向National Center for Disaster Fraud举报
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WaterWorld/2305457.html
:
: by
【在 x*********i 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 请捐款受害人向National Center for Disaster Fraud举报
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WaterWorld/2305457.html
:
: by
j*h
10 楼
just curious, what is the source of the non reg info?
go to IRS website
http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations
click select check tool
select Are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions
enter EIN 51-0514302 (from http://www.accef.net/)
It still shows it is an eligible 501c3
Also, IRS just got budget cut. so don't expect too much from their customer
service.
【在 x*********i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不知道该向那个执法机构举报
go to IRS website
http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations
click select check tool
select Are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions
enter EIN 51-0514302 (from http://www.accef.net/)
It still shows it is an eligible 501c3
Also, IRS just got budget cut. so don't expect too much from their customer
service.
【在 x*********i 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不知道该向那个执法机构举报
r*t
11 楼
需要注册才能接受捐款的, 而 accef 没有注册:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/SanDiego/31878009_0.html
========================
HGuo,
The Registry of Charitable Trusts public website has the correct status for
American Chinese Culture and Education Foundation, as Not Registered.
Public Benefit organizations are required by California law to register
within 30 days of first receiving assets (i.e. donations) in order to
conduct fundraising to be used for charitable purposes. This entity was
incorporated on 6/30/04.
...
On 4/12/13, our office sent a Second Notice to Register to the organization
(letter attached). We have not yet received the required materials, which
is a completed CT-1, initial registration form (3 pages completed, signed,
and dated-form attached) and a $25 initial registration fee (check or money
order made payable to the Department of Justice).
Sincerely,
Registration Desk
Registry of Charitable Trusts
P.O. Box 903447
Sacramento, CA 94203-4470
916-445-2021 x4
916-444-3651 (fax)
http://oag.ca.gov/charities
这个是捐款不可免税的条款, 而 accef 说可以免税的条款.
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p526/ar02.html
Contributions You Can Deduct
Generally, you can deduct contributions of money or property you make to, or
for the use of, a qualified organization. A contribution is “for the use
of” a qualified organization when it is held in a legally enforceable trust
for the qualified organization or in a similar legal arrangement.
The contributions must be made to a qualified organization and not set aside
for use by a specific person.
...
customer
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: just curious, what is the source of the non reg info?
: go to IRS website
: http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations
: click select check tool
: select Are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions
: enter EIN 51-0514302 (from http://www.accef.net/)
: It still shows it is an eligible 501c3
: Also, IRS just got budget cut. so don't expect too much from their customer
: service.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/SanDiego/31878009_0.html
========================
HGuo,
The Registry of Charitable Trusts public website has the correct status for
American Chinese Culture and Education Foundation, as Not Registered.
Public Benefit organizations are required by California law to register
within 30 days of first receiving assets (i.e. donations) in order to
conduct fundraising to be used for charitable purposes. This entity was
incorporated on 6/30/04.
...
On 4/12/13, our office sent a Second Notice to Register to the organization
(letter attached). We have not yet received the required materials, which
is a completed CT-1, initial registration form (3 pages completed, signed,
and dated-form attached) and a $25 initial registration fee (check or money
order made payable to the Department of Justice).
Sincerely,
Registration Desk
Registry of Charitable Trusts
P.O. Box 903447
Sacramento, CA 94203-4470
916-445-2021 x4
916-444-3651 (fax)
http://oag.ca.gov/charities
这个是捐款不可免税的条款, 而 accef 说可以免税的条款.
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p526/ar02.html
Contributions You Can Deduct
Generally, you can deduct contributions of money or property you make to, or
for the use of, a qualified organization. A contribution is “for the use
of” a qualified organization when it is held in a legally enforceable trust
for the qualified organization or in a similar legal arrangement.
The contributions must be made to a qualified organization and not set aside
for use by a specific person.
...
customer
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: just curious, what is the source of the non reg info?
: go to IRS website
: http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations
: click select check tool
: select Are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions
: enter EIN 51-0514302 (from http://www.accef.net/)
: It still shows it is an eligible 501c3
: Also, IRS just got budget cut. so don't expect too much from their customer
: service.
j*h
12 楼
what is exactly the meaning of your post?
if we are talking about the deductability of the donation, it is the problem
of the donor, not donee, not the organization.
or
trust
aside
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 需要注册才能接受捐款的, 而 accef 没有注册:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/SanDiego/31878009_0.html
: ========================
: HGuo,
: The Registry of Charitable Trusts public website has the correct status for
: American Chinese Culture and Education Foundation, as Not Registered.
: Public Benefit organizations are required by California law to register
: within 30 days of first receiving assets (i.e. donations) in order to
: conduct fundraising to be used for charitable purposes. This entity was
: incorporated on 6/30/04.
if we are talking about the deductability of the donation, it is the problem
of the donor, not donee, not the organization.
or
trust
aside
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 需要注册才能接受捐款的, 而 accef 没有注册:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/SanDiego/31878009_0.html
: ========================
: HGuo,
: The Registry of Charitable Trusts public website has the correct status for
: American Chinese Culture and Education Foundation, as Not Registered.
: Public Benefit organizations are required by California law to register
: within 30 days of first receiving assets (i.e. donations) in order to
: conduct fundraising to be used for charitable purposes. This entity was
: incorporated on 6/30/04.
j*h
14 楼
did u check irs website?
or you check
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facilit
if you check CA.gov website, did u check other organization? say OCEF, a
life a time....
【在 C**********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 组织不存在
:
: problem
or you check
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facilit
if you check CA.gov website, did u check other organization? say OCEF, a
life a time....
【在 C**********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 组织不存在
:
: problem
C*r
15 楼
你不会吧?把ocef和儿希会相提并论。
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did u check irs website?
: or you check
: http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facilit
: if you check CA.gov website, did u check other organization? say OCEF, a
: life a time....
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did u check irs website?
: or you check
: http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facilit
: if you check CA.gov website, did u check other organization? say OCEF, a
: life a time....
j*h
16 楼
?????
be cool, don't get so excited. a life a time is not er xi.
and this is irs link of ACCEF
http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=51-0514302&name
and check oecf and a life a time on that ca gov website
【在 C**********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你不会吧?把ocef和儿希会相提并论。
be cool, don't get so excited. a life a time is not er xi.
and this is irs link of ACCEF
http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=51-0514302&name
and check oecf and a life a time on that ca gov website
【在 C**********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你不会吧?把ocef和儿希会相提并论。
r*t
17 楼
The post contains two parts. Did you read both parts? The 1st one talks
about the mail saying accef cannot accept donations without a registration.
also, 别忘了 ACCEF 召集捐款的时候对大家说, 捐给它是免税的.
problem
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: what is exactly the meaning of your post?
: if we are talking about the deductability of the donation, it is the problem
: of the donor, not donee, not the organization.
:
: or
: trust
: aside
about the mail saying accef cannot accept donations without a registration.
also, 别忘了 ACCEF 召集捐款的时候对大家说, 捐给它是免税的.
problem
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: what is exactly the meaning of your post?
: if we are talking about the deductability of the donation, it is the problem
: of the donor, not donee, not the organization.
:
: or
: trust
: aside
j*h
18 楼
also, read instruction of form RRF-1
http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
requirement.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ?????
: be cool, don't get so excited. a life a time is not er xi.
: and this is irs link of ACCEF
: http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=51-0514302&name
: and check oecf and a life a time on that ca gov website
http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
requirement.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ?????
: be cool, don't get so excited. a life a time is not er xi.
: and this is irs link of ACCEF
: http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=51-0514302&name
: and check oecf and a life a time on that ca gov website
r*t
19 楼
why? 1-7 do not apply to ACCEF, do they? They are required to reg. They
receive request to reg. mail more than once.
I doubt you read RRF-1. Okay, tell me your reasoning, or ACCEF's reasoning,
pls.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: also, read instruction of form RRF-1
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
receive request to reg. mail more than once.
I doubt you read RRF-1. Okay, tell me your reasoning, or ACCEF's reasoning,
pls.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: also, read instruction of form RRF-1
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
C*r
20 楼
am i excited? there is no ipad air, why should i be excited?
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ?????
: be cool, don't get so excited. a life a time is not er xi.
: and this is irs link of ACCEF
: http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=51-0514302&name
: and check oecf and a life a time on that ca gov website
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ?????
: be cool, don't get so excited. a life a time is not er xi.
: and this is irs link of ACCEF
: http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=51-0514302&name
: and check oecf and a life a time on that ca gov website
r*t
25 楼
I don't care if ACCEF's 501c3 is revoked or not by non-registering.
It's that if the donation is used for a specific person, then the donation
is non-deductible, while ACCEF intentionally stated they are, misleadingly.
It doesn't help if OCEF is deliquent. deliquent is different from non-reg in
the 1st place. OCEF also didn't ask for donation that is to be used for a
specific person and claim it is deductible. Third, many charities are either
deliquent or non-registerred. But if you have revenue, you have to register.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: well, maybe it means a school not required. i no expert of 990
: but ocef also deliquent.
: also, i dont think without rrf1 will revoke 501c3.
It's that if the donation is used for a specific person, then the donation
is non-deductible, while ACCEF intentionally stated they are, misleadingly.
It doesn't help if OCEF is deliquent. deliquent is different from non-reg in
the 1st place. OCEF also didn't ask for donation that is to be used for a
specific person and claim it is deductible. Third, many charities are either
deliquent or non-registerred. But if you have revenue, you have to register.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: well, maybe it means a school not required. i no expert of 990
: but ocef also deliquent.
: also, i dont think without rrf1 will revoke 501c3.
s*l
27 楼
what r u talking about? we are talking about that the company did not DO
registration as a charitable org in California. which mean, even it did
registration as TAX-EXCEPT company in the fed, but it did not register as a
Charitable org in California. So, it should not do public donations in the
state.
u are talking the company's INCOME TAX-EXCEPTION, we are talking about
whether it qualify for public donations.
customer
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: just curious, what is the source of the non reg info?
: go to IRS website
: http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations
: click select check tool
: select Are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions
: enter EIN 51-0514302 (from http://www.accef.net/)
: It still shows it is an eligible 501c3
: Also, IRS just got budget cut. so don't expect too much from their customer
: service.
registration as a charitable org in California. which mean, even it did
registration as TAX-EXCEPT company in the fed, but it did not register as a
Charitable org in California. So, it should not do public donations in the
state.
u are talking the company's INCOME TAX-EXCEPTION, we are talking about
whether it qualify for public donations.
customer
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: just curious, what is the source of the non reg info?
: go to IRS website
: http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations
: click select check tool
: select Are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions
: enter EIN 51-0514302 (from http://www.accef.net/)
: It still shows it is an eligible 501c3
: Also, IRS just got budget cut. so don't expect too much from their customer
: service.
C*r
28 楼
玉鱼为神马要拖ocef下水呢?
in
either
register.
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't care if ACCEF's 501c3 is revoked or not by non-registering.
: It's that if the donation is used for a specific person, then the donation
: is non-deductible, while ACCEF intentionally stated they are, misleadingly.
: It doesn't help if OCEF is deliquent. deliquent is different from non-reg in
: the 1st place. OCEF also didn't ask for donation that is to be used for a
: specific person and claim it is deductible. Third, many charities are either
: deliquent or non-registerred. But if you have revenue, you have to register.
in
either
register.
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't care if ACCEF's 501c3 is revoked or not by non-registering.
: It's that if the donation is used for a specific person, then the donation
: is non-deductible, while ACCEF intentionally stated they are, misleadingly.
: It doesn't help if OCEF is deliquent. deliquent is different from non-reg in
: the 1st place. OCEF also didn't ask for donation that is to be used for a
: specific person and claim it is deductible. Third, many charities are either
: deliquent or non-registerred. But if you have revenue, you have to register.
j*h
29 楼
again, if it is about deductibility, it is not a problem of the organization
reg or not with ca gov will not affect 501c3 status
accef's 501c3 is legit as for now according to irs
in
either
register.
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't care if ACCEF's 501c3 is revoked or not by non-registering.
: It's that if the donation is used for a specific person, then the donation
: is non-deductible, while ACCEF intentionally stated they are, misleadingly.
: It doesn't help if OCEF is deliquent. deliquent is different from non-reg in
: the 1st place. OCEF also didn't ask for donation that is to be used for a
: specific person and claim it is deductible. Third, many charities are either
: deliquent or non-registerred. But if you have revenue, you have to register.
reg or not with ca gov will not affect 501c3 status
accef's 501c3 is legit as for now according to irs
in
either
register.
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't care if ACCEF's 501c3 is revoked or not by non-registering.
: It's that if the donation is used for a specific person, then the donation
: is non-deductible, while ACCEF intentionally stated they are, misleadingly.
: It doesn't help if OCEF is deliquent. deliquent is different from non-reg in
: the 1st place. OCEF also didn't ask for donation that is to be used for a
: specific person and claim it is deductible. Third, many charities are either
: deliquent or non-registerred. But if you have revenue, you have to register.
r*t
31 楼
NO. 捐款的时候误导捐款人说能 deduct, ACCEF 没有责任吗?
我没有说这个是a problem of the organization
reg or not, 也没有说这个影响 501c3 status
我只说欺骗捐款人简称骗捐.
organization
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: again, if it is about deductibility, it is not a problem of the organization
: reg or not with ca gov will not affect 501c3 status
: accef's 501c3 is legit as for now according to irs
:
: in
: either
: register.
我没有说这个是a problem of the organization
reg or not, 也没有说这个影响 501c3 status
我只说欺骗捐款人简称骗捐.
organization
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: again, if it is about deductibility, it is not a problem of the organization
: reg or not with ca gov will not affect 501c3 status
: accef's 501c3 is legit as for now according to irs
:
: in
: either
: register.
s*l
33 楼
you should read it again. as a charitable education/culture/finance org, u
should understand which category is right for u.
WHO MUST FILE A FORM RRF-1?
Every charitable nonprofit corporation, unincorporated
association or trustee holding assets for charitable
purposes that is required to register with the Attorney
General’s Office is also required to annually file Form
RRF-1 regardless of whether the corporation files Form
990s annually or is on extended reporting. Nonprofit
corporations and organizations not required by law to
register with the Attorney General are not required to
file the RRF-1. These include:
(1) a government agency,
(2) a religious corporation sole,
(3) a cemetery corporation regulated under Chapter
19 of Division 3 of the Business and Professions
Code,
(4) a political committee defined in Section 82013 of
the California Government Code which is required
to and which does file with the Secretary of State
any statement pursuant to the provisions of Article
2 (commencing with Section 84200) of Chapter 4 of
Title 9,
(5) a charitable corporation organized and operated
primarily as a religious organization, educational
institution or hospital,
(6) a health care service plan that is licensed pursuant
to Section 1349 of the Health and Safety Code and
reports annually to the Department of Managed
Health Care,
(7) corporate trustees which are subject to the
jurisdiction of the Commissioner of Financial
Institutions of the State of California or to the
Comptroller of Currency of the United States.
However, for testamentary trusts, such trustees
should file a copy of a complete annual financial
summary which is prepared in the ordinary course
of business. See Probate Code sections 16060-
16063.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: also, read instruction of form RRF-1
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
should understand which category is right for u.
WHO MUST FILE A FORM RRF-1?
Every charitable nonprofit corporation, unincorporated
association or trustee holding assets for charitable
purposes that is required to register with the Attorney
General’s Office is also required to annually file Form
RRF-1 regardless of whether the corporation files Form
990s annually or is on extended reporting. Nonprofit
corporations and organizations not required by law to
register with the Attorney General are not required to
file the RRF-1. These include:
(1) a government agency,
(2) a religious corporation sole,
(3) a cemetery corporation regulated under Chapter
19 of Division 3 of the Business and Professions
Code,
(4) a political committee defined in Section 82013 of
the California Government Code which is required
to and which does file with the Secretary of State
any statement pursuant to the provisions of Article
2 (commencing with Section 84200) of Chapter 4 of
Title 9,
(5) a charitable corporation organized and operated
primarily as a religious organization, educational
institution or hospital,
(6) a health care service plan that is licensed pursuant
to Section 1349 of the Health and Safety Code and
reports annually to the Department of Managed
Health Care,
(7) corporate trustees which are subject to the
jurisdiction of the Commissioner of Financial
Institutions of the State of California or to the
Comptroller of Currency of the United States.
However, for testamentary trusts, such trustees
should file a copy of a complete annual financial
summary which is prepared in the ordinary course
of business. See Probate Code sections 16060-
16063.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: also, read instruction of form RRF-1
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
j*h
34 楼
did kang ask ppl donate through accef to get deduction?
how many ppl donate to accef?
how did accef handle the donation?
without those info, hard to say
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: NO. 捐款的时候误导捐款人说能 deduct, ACCEF 没有责任吗?
: 我没有说这个是a problem of the organization
: reg or not, 也没有说这个影响 501c3 status
: 我只说欺骗捐款人简称骗捐.
:
: organization
how many ppl donate to accef?
how did accef handle the donation?
without those info, hard to say
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: NO. 捐款的时候误导捐款人说能 deduct, ACCEF 没有责任吗?
: 我没有说这个是a problem of the organization
: reg or not, 也没有说这个影响 501c3 status
: 我只说欺骗捐款人简称骗捐.
:
: organization
s*l
35 楼
see what u said before,
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf1_instructs_05.pdf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
see what u said now,
Please making sure you have same mind?
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: also, read instruction of form RRF-1
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf1_instructs_05.pdf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
see what u said now,
Please making sure you have same mind?
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: also, read instruction of form RRF-1
: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/charities/charitable/rrf
: from my understanding, ACCEF does not required to reg, thus, no filing
: requirement.
r*t
36 楼
What do you want to say which is hard to say? I didn't ask you what you need
to say or want to say, let alone if it is difficult or easy to say anything
.
Just please stop making stupid excuses for ACCEF.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did kang ask ppl donate through accef to get deduction?
: how many ppl donate to accef?
: how did accef handle the donation?
: without those info, hard to say
to say or want to say, let alone if it is difficult or easy to say anything
.
Just please stop making stupid excuses for ACCEF.
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did kang ask ppl donate through accef to get deduction?
: how many ppl donate to accef?
: how did accef handle the donation?
: without those info, hard to say
j*h
38 楼
???
if accef didnt give money to kang???
if kang or accef didnt say it is deductible at first place???
need
anything
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: What do you want to say which is hard to say? I didn't ask you what you need
: to say or want to say, let alone if it is difficult or easy to say anything
: .
: Just please stop making stupid excuses for ACCEF.
if accef didnt give money to kang???
if kang or accef didnt say it is deductible at first place???
need
anything
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: What do you want to say which is hard to say? I didn't ask you what you need
: to say or want to say, let alone if it is difficult or easy to say anything
: .
: Just please stop making stupid excuses for ACCEF.
d*9
43 楼
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WaterWorld/2290539.html
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did kang ask ppl donate through accef to get deduction?
: how many ppl donate to accef?
: how did accef handle the donation?
: without those info, hard to say
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did kang ask ppl donate through accef to get deduction?
: how many ppl donate to accef?
: how did accef handle the donation?
: without those info, hard to say
c*9
44 楼
来帮顶的。
j*h
49 楼
ocef 有加州分部,他们是要file的
这个rrf1五月due,no extention. delinquent 就是没按时报
accef也应该报,虽然现在没影响他们的501c3,但是是没有comply with the law
a life a time 如果在加州有nexus, 也要报
康妈/accef说可以deduct是错的。这种给个人捐款只能是 gift。
但是说报告康给 irs 还是省省吧。
报告 accef 这个不好说。个人认为加州政府只会关心他们的欠费。irs budget cut
500m。
【在 r****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: jadefish, 你就别搅了。
: OCEF总部在德州,a life a time在OHIO. 不需要在加州注册。
这个rrf1五月due,no extention. delinquent 就是没按时报
accef也应该报,虽然现在没影响他们的501c3,但是是没有comply with the law
a life a time 如果在加州有nexus, 也要报
康妈/accef说可以deduct是错的。这种给个人捐款只能是 gift。
但是说报告康给 irs 还是省省吧。
报告 accef 这个不好说。个人认为加州政府只会关心他们的欠费。irs budget cut
500m。
【在 r****a 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: jadefish, 你就别搅了。
: OCEF总部在德州,a life a time在OHIO. 不需要在加州注册。
r*a
50 楼
现在焦点是ACCEF,其他组织不管。
注册费也就25刀,要不您帮ACCEF先垫一下?
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ocef 有加州分部,他们是要file的
: 这个rrf1五月due,no extention. delinquent 就是没按时报
: accef也应该报,虽然现在没影响他们的501c3,但是是没有comply with the law
: a life a time 如果在加州有nexus, 也要报
: 康妈/accef说可以deduct是错的。这种给个人捐款只能是 gift。
: 但是说报告康给 irs 还是省省吧。
: 报告 accef 这个不好说。个人认为加州政府只会关心他们的欠费。irs budget cut
: 500m。
注册费也就25刀,要不您帮ACCEF先垫一下?
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ocef 有加州分部,他们是要file的
: 这个rrf1五月due,no extention. delinquent 就是没按时报
: accef也应该报,虽然现在没影响他们的501c3,但是是没有comply with the law
: a life a time 如果在加州有nexus, 也要报
: 康妈/accef说可以deduct是错的。这种给个人捐款只能是 gift。
: 但是说报告康给 irs 还是省省吧。
: 报告 accef 这个不好说。个人认为加州政府只会关心他们的欠费。irs budget cut
: 500m。
t*r
52 楼
这是举报OCEF吗?
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did u check irs website?
: or you check
: http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facilit
: if you check CA.gov website, did u check other organization? say OCEF, a
: life a time....
【在 j******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: did u check irs website?
: or you check
: http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facilit
: if you check CA.gov website, did u check other organization? say OCEF, a
: life a time....
J*S
55 楼
去ACCEF的网上看了看,今年都没什么动静,都转会其他组织了??反正都是义工,也
许有交集,谁知道呢?
以前的报道,只转载了一部分,这报道也挺风光的,现在怎么没动静了???
http://gd.people.com.cn/GB/15227177.html
没有专职人员,但都是专业义工的“零成本”运作基金
“ACCEF是一个非政治性、非宗教性、非地域性、非谋利的民间慈善组织。” 王岳
彪用这“四非”概括了ACCEF的特点。ACCEF的宗旨是弘扬文化和支持教育,致力于增进
中西文化的相互了解与交流、支援中国大陆贫困地区的教育与普及等。
“一份爱心、一个梦想、一段情缘、一丝感念”,自2004年在美国加州注册成立以
来,ACCEF把不同背景、不同人种和不同国籍的人凝聚在一起,共同为爱心慈善事业添
砖加瓦。
“与国际上或者中国国内的慈善组织相比,ACCEF有自己的两大特点。”王岳彪说
到这一点,脸上绽放出不一样的光彩。
据介绍,ACCEF作为一个跨国的慈善公益基金会,可以发挥自身独特的作用。“相
比美国的基金会或者中国国内的基金会,我们可以联系两头,让更多的人、更广大的群
体参与到这个事业中来。”另外,ACCEF的办公运营成本基本为零。所有的义工都不拿
报酬,甚至是自掏腰包提供服务。包括基金会的日常运作,都是热心义工兼职完成。“
这里没有专职人员,但都是专业人员。”王岳彪语带骄傲地举例说,比如说,基金会需
要法律方面的顾问,那执业律师等义工就可提供相应的专业帮助,如有关于基金财务的
问题,金融领域或者财务领域的义工也将“拔刀相助”。
ACCEF在美国目前约有100位会员,更多的是捐助人和义工,他们来自社会各界,由
企业家、医生、业主、科学家和各类在职和退休专业人士组成。未来,ACCEF有意把触
角伸向更广大的领域和更多的国家,希望更多的人参与到这一事业中来。
第一个抵达汶川灾区的境外基金会,目前在中国已重建17所美华学校
“ACCEF目前从事的事业主要有慈善和文化两大部分,而慈善无疑是我们投注精力
最多的。”据王岳彪介绍,截至目前,ACCEF共接受200多万美元的捐助,投入到中国的
贫困助学等活动中。直接资助学生500多人,其中,作为ACCEF的“王牌项目”——“一
对一彩虹助学计划”自2009年启动以来,已经资助350多名贫困地区的孩子;在中国的
四川、重庆、广西、贵州等省市(区)重建了17所美华学校,受助人数达到1万多人次
;为20多所学校新建或者完善实验室、图书馆和体育设施等基础设施。
许有交集,谁知道呢?
以前的报道,只转载了一部分,这报道也挺风光的,现在怎么没动静了???
http://gd.people.com.cn/GB/15227177.html
没有专职人员,但都是专业义工的“零成本”运作基金
“ACCEF是一个非政治性、非宗教性、非地域性、非谋利的民间慈善组织。” 王岳
彪用这“四非”概括了ACCEF的特点。ACCEF的宗旨是弘扬文化和支持教育,致力于增进
中西文化的相互了解与交流、支援中国大陆贫困地区的教育与普及等。
“一份爱心、一个梦想、一段情缘、一丝感念”,自2004年在美国加州注册成立以
来,ACCEF把不同背景、不同人种和不同国籍的人凝聚在一起,共同为爱心慈善事业添
砖加瓦。
“与国际上或者中国国内的慈善组织相比,ACCEF有自己的两大特点。”王岳彪说
到这一点,脸上绽放出不一样的光彩。
据介绍,ACCEF作为一个跨国的慈善公益基金会,可以发挥自身独特的作用。“相
比美国的基金会或者中国国内的基金会,我们可以联系两头,让更多的人、更广大的群
体参与到这个事业中来。”另外,ACCEF的办公运营成本基本为零。所有的义工都不拿
报酬,甚至是自掏腰包提供服务。包括基金会的日常运作,都是热心义工兼职完成。“
这里没有专职人员,但都是专业人员。”王岳彪语带骄傲地举例说,比如说,基金会需
要法律方面的顾问,那执业律师等义工就可提供相应的专业帮助,如有关于基金财务的
问题,金融领域或者财务领域的义工也将“拔刀相助”。
ACCEF在美国目前约有100位会员,更多的是捐助人和义工,他们来自社会各界,由
企业家、医生、业主、科学家和各类在职和退休专业人士组成。未来,ACCEF有意把触
角伸向更广大的领域和更多的国家,希望更多的人参与到这一事业中来。
第一个抵达汶川灾区的境外基金会,目前在中国已重建17所美华学校
“ACCEF目前从事的事业主要有慈善和文化两大部分,而慈善无疑是我们投注精力
最多的。”据王岳彪介绍,截至目前,ACCEF共接受200多万美元的捐助,投入到中国的
贫困助学等活动中。直接资助学生500多人,其中,作为ACCEF的“王牌项目”——“一
对一彩虹助学计划”自2009年启动以来,已经资助350多名贫困地区的孩子;在中国的
四川、重庆、广西、贵州等省市(区)重建了17所美华学校,受助人数达到1万多人次
;为20多所学校新建或者完善实验室、图书馆和体育设施等基础设施。
x*i
56 楼
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