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n*e2007-09-26 07:09

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In a rumba sequence we learned last week, I couldn't manage to finish two
spins.
The sequence was like this: after the sliding door, and a spiral to the left
(slow), the girl makes two quick spins (quick, quick) to the left to get to
the fan position (slow).
(I apologize for misusing some of the terms, and please correct me.)
I was able to do it well in slow motion. However when I was dancing to the
music, i found I had to pause a little after the spiral. Therefore I lost
the momentum to finish

M*e2007-09-26 07:09

2 楼

are the two spins three-step turn?
one thing that might help is to check your spiral.
make sure all the weight is supported by the standing leg, and no
pressure/weight is on the free leg. this way you don't need
to transfer weight or check balance, which might caused the pause
that you described.

left
to

【在 n******e 的大作中提到】

: In a rumba sequence we learned last week, I couldn't manage to finish two
: spins.
: The sequence was like this: after the sliding door, and a spiral to the left
: (slow), the girl makes two quick spins (quick, quick) to the left to get to
: the fan position (slow).
: (I apologize for misusing some of the terms, and please correct me.)
: I was able to do it well in slow motion. However when I was dancing to the
: music, i found I had to pause a little after the spiral. Therefore I lost
: the momentum to finish

a*e2007-09-26 07:09

3 楼

i thought you just started to dance on school team. this doesn't look like
for beginners. you move very fast...

left
to

【在 n******e 的大作中提到】

: In a rumba sequence we learned last week, I couldn't manage to finish two
: spins.
: The sequence was like this: after the sliding door, and a spiral to the left
: (slow), the girl makes two quick spins (quick, quick) to the left to get to
: the fan position (slow).
: (I apologize for misusing some of the terms, and please correct me.)
: I was able to do it well in slow motion. However when I was dancing to the
: music, i found I had to pause a little after the spiral. Therefore I lost
: the momentum to finish

M*e2007-09-26 07:09

4 楼

yeah, i was about to say two spins after sliding door to fan position
is pretty hard. i don't think i can do that right away.

【在 a***e 的大作中提到】

: i thought you just started to dance on school team. this doesn't look like
: for beginners. you move very fast...
:
: left
: to

n*e2007-09-26 07:09

5 楼

yes, three-step turns.
我理解Musique mm的意思，做spiral （slow）的时候，的确应该把重心完全放在
supporting leg（这里是右脚，左脚spiral to the right），但是下一步three step
turn （quick）的时候，左脚就要立即迈出去做这个spin。
我的问题在于，重心太靠后（右脚），以至于从这一步的slow接quick的时候，感觉需
要停顿一下。这样我的turn就转得不够快，如果我自己试图转快一点，就会朝右边歪过
去。反而有时候我cheat一小下，比如重心不放那么後，可以从这个spiral的扭力上给
一个momentum，很快的转向左边做spins。
我不知道大家看得懂么？用语言的确很难描述。

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: are the two spins three-step turn?
: one thing that might help is to check your spiral.
: make sure all the weight is supported by the standing leg, and no
: pressure/weight is on the free leg. this way you don't need
: to transfer weight or check balance, which might caused the pause
: that you described.
:
: left
: to

n*e2007-09-26 07:09

6 楼

Although my formal trainings of ballroom just started this year, I have had
dancing experience before college. Plus, I danced salsa and tango for quite
a while. All these helped me to learn ballroom quickly.
I improved alot on standard this summer, especially foxtrot and tango. We
haven't learned much waltz recently, so I dont' know.
But I have to say it's quite different when moving from social dances to
ballroom. The lead-and-follow becomes weaker, and sometimes I dont feel the
lead at all. I

【在 a***e 的大作中提到】

: i thought you just started to dance on school team. this doesn't look like
: for beginners. you move very fast...
:
: left
: to

c*l2007-09-26 07:09

7 楼

转的时候要不卑不亢，正视，不要抬头或低头，一般转的好像都是在脚尖转

step

【在 n******e 的大作中提到】

: yes, three-step turns.
: 我理解Musique mm的意思，做spiral （slow）的时候，的确应该把重心完全放在
: supporting leg（这里是右脚，左脚spiral to the right），但是下一步three step
: turn （quick）的时候，左脚就要立即迈出去做这个spin。
: 我的问题在于，重心太靠后（右脚），以至于从这一步的slow接quick的时候，感觉需
: 要停顿一下。这样我的turn就转得不够快，如果我自己试图转快一点，就会朝右边歪过
: 去。反而有时候我cheat一小下，比如重心不放那么後，可以从这个spiral的扭力上给
: 一个momentum，很快的转向左边做spins。
: 我不知道大家看得懂么？用语言的确很难描述。

n*e2007-09-26 07:09

8 楼

谢谢建议。
不过我的左转就是比右转弱。
对了，你们平常练习的时候都看着partner脸部的什么位置，还有，你们微笑么？

【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】

: 转的时候要不卑不亢，正视，不要抬头或低头，一般转的好像都是在脚尖转
:
: step

n*e2007-09-26 07:09

9 楼

我们的老师教得时候也不说这是bronze，silver还是gold
前两天学了一个foxtrot gold sequence，感觉良好~~

【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】

: yeah, i was about to say two spins after sliding door to fan position
: is pretty hard. i don't think i can do that right away.

n*r2007-09-26 07:09

10 楼

I thought you put your weight on the ball of your feet most of the time if
not always, either in Latin or Standard, especially in Latin. You can make
use of residual momentum from the spiral to initiate the spin. But you can
spin from stationary position just as well. The key is to isolate your upper
torso from the lower body from hip down and generate angular momentum by
torquing your body (parts) and make use of the arm (or arms), first out then
in. You can spin as many times and as fast as yo

【在 n******e 的大作中提到】

: yes, three-step turns.
: 我理解Musique mm的意思，做spiral （slow）的时候，的确应该把重心完全放在
: supporting leg（这里是右脚，左脚spiral to the right），但是下一步three step
: turn （quick）的时候，左脚就要立即迈出去做这个spin。
: 我的问题在于，重心太靠后（右脚），以至于从这一步的slow接quick的时候，感觉需
: 要停顿一下。这样我的turn就转得不够快，如果我自己试图转快一点，就会朝右边歪过
: 去。反而有时候我cheat一小下，比如重心不放那么後，可以从这个spiral的扭力上给
: 一个momentum，很快的转向左边做spins。
: 我不知道大家看得懂么？用语言的确很难描述。

M*e2007-09-26 07:09

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When you say two turns, are you including the spiral? If yes, then you can
do a "step, step, fan" on "2, 3, 4", which is a 3-step 3/4 turn (because you
start the spin turn facing forward and end up facing to the right,
relatively speaking (to your partnerand the room)). If you are not including
the turn, then you have to take 5
steps on "2 n 3 n 4" to finish the 1 and 3/4 turns and go into the fan.
There is no way that you can do two turns on 3 steps. Well, at least there
is no way to do it beau

【在 n******e 的大作中提到】

: In a rumba sequence we learned last week, I couldn't manage to finish two
: spins.
: The sequence was like this: after the sliding door, and a spiral to the left
: (slow), the girl makes two quick spins (quick, quick) to the left to get to
: the fan position (slow).
: (I apologize for misusing some of the terms, and please correct me.)
: I was able to do it well in slow motion. However when I was dancing to the
: music, i found I had to pause a little after the spiral. Therefore I lost
: the momentum to finish

j*l2007-09-26 07:09

12 楼

恩，收藏这个版有半年了，但俺最近来得贼勤