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尽管知道共和党是拿“合法移民”当挡箭牌# EB23 - 劳工卡
d*t
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前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
Dear xxx,
Thank you for taking the time to visit xxx to interview for the xxx faculty
position.
Following interviews, I gather feedback from faculty about the candidate. I
then contact candidates that attract sufficient enthusiasm to start the
process of developing a startup list. I am very pleased to let you know that
you have moved to the next phase of this process.
The final decision on offers is made following full evaluation of all
candidates at a faculty meeting. Having this early negotiation process
started means that we can move faster on an offer as needed. I anticipate
extending offers in late November/December.
In order to determine a start-up package for your offer, I need to know what
you will need to get your research program up and running. It would be
helpful if you could work on putting together an itemized list of your start
-up needs. I have attached a template that you can work from, if that is
helpful.
Startup costs can include lab equipment and supplies, processing (e.g.
sequencing), personnel costs (summer salary for you, salary for graduate
students, postdocs, lab staff), travel, renovation and moving costs. Please
get estimated costs for any items you can. I will provide estimated costs
for personnel if you can just indicate who you anticipate needing. We can
determine any needed renovations after your second visit.
The expectation is that new faculty will receive a federal grant by their
third year, which will be used to support personnel. So we cannot extend
personnel costs beyond the first 2 years. Other expenses can extend into
year 3.
Keep in mind that this is an estimated summary of what you will need to get
your program up and running. It is not a contract. You will receive a lump
sum of money and can spend this as you see fit, including re-budgeting if
you receive a grant in your first year or two.
This list will not be shared with the Search Committee nor considered as we
determine offers. It is simply to allow me to negotiate the strongest offer
I can.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
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s*m
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家庭主妇都2年了 HR最近不停写信骚扰要interview
现在过线应该满容易的 喜欢google的抓紧了
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s*y
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还是觉得他们有些观点很persuasive,像sessions说:“一把赦了这么多非法的,让那
么多辛辛苦苦排队的合法的情何以堪”
还有Ted Cruz说的,“用合法移民纳的税去养非法的福利,真操蛋!”
不管怎么样,还是希望CIR过!
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o*e
4
恭喜,我你大概是one of their top candidates或有的地方叫acceptable group..
Chair也不确定Top candidates 会不会全来, 或有人会不来, 所以有点含糊不清。
但是他现在要和院长要资源了, 需要知道大概的数目。
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t*i
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还是美国好,我投google canada无人理睬
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b*e
6
催人尿下是政客的基本技能了

【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: 还是觉得他们有些观点很persuasive,像sessions说:“一把赦了这么多非法的,让那
: 么多辛辛苦苦排队的合法的情何以堪”
: 还有Ted Cruz说的,“用合法移民纳的税去养非法的福利,真操蛋!”
: 不管怎么样,还是希望CIR过!

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l*e
7
恭喜,你们面试的好早啊
我们还没结束申请....

faculty
I
that

【在 d*****t 的大作中提到】
: 前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
: Dear xxx,
: Thank you for taking the time to visit xxx to interview for the xxx faculty
: position.
: Following interviews, I gather feedback from faculty about the candidate. I
: then contact candidates that attract sufficient enthusiasm to start the
: process of developing a startup list. I am very pleased to let you know that
: you have moved to the next phase of this process.
: The final decision on offers is made following full evaluation of all
: candidates at a faculty meeting. Having this early negotiation process

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t*3
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疯狂面人不代表疯狂招人啊,只是人家打算招一个人可以喊十几二十人去面罢了
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n*r
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共和党要是当了总统也行政命令给合移发EAD就算他们有诚意。

【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: 还是觉得他们有些观点很persuasive,像sessions说:“一把赦了这么多非法的,让那
: 么多辛辛苦苦排队的合法的情何以堪”
: 还有Ted Cruz说的,“用合法移民纳的税去养非法的福利,真操蛋!”
: 不管怎么样,还是希望CIR过!

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M*P
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这是准offer。startup才给两年,这个比较tough。

:前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
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l*e
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能把你的recruiter介绍给我么?给我站内即可,谢谢啦
我投了google两个多月了,怎么一点消息都没有啊,郁闷,按理说我背景也不差阿

【在 s******m 的大作中提到】
: 家庭主妇都2年了 HR最近不停写信骚扰要interview
: 现在过线应该满容易的 喜欢google的抓紧了

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s*t
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How about STEM extension for OPT?
You cannot just require GOP to do this and to do that. So far, nobody has
done anything yet and why you question GOP's 诚意 only?

【在 n********r 的大作中提到】
: 共和党要是当了总统也行政命令给合移发EAD就算他们有诚意。
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H*N
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the chair is a little bit sneaky, be careful.
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F*d
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你拿到google的offer再来bso吧

【在 s******m 的大作中提到】
: 家庭主妇都2年了 HR最近不停写信骚扰要interview
: 现在过线应该满容易的 喜欢google的抓紧了

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n*r
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好吧,如果这是共和党推动的,那算他们比民主党好一点。
我只是针对有些议员光动嘴皮子不干实事,或者说一套做一套。

【在 s******t 的大作中提到】
: How about STEM extension for OPT?
: You cannot just require GOP to do this and to do that. So far, nobody has
: done anything yet and why you question GOP's 诚意 only?

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M*P
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为什么这么说?

:the chair is a little bit sneaky, be careful.
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c*t
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google最近一直在疯狂找人面试,但是录取的bar还是比较高
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s*t
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That's an administrative fix by Bush administration, similar to Obama on
illegals last year.
In 2000, AC21 was passed by GOP Majority House/Senate.
In 2004, 20k Adv degrees exemption was passed by GOP Majority House/Senate.
In 2008, STEM OPT extension was enacted by GOP President Bush, when it was
DEM Majority House/Senate, so no law could be passed.
The above 3 are benefiting EB23/H1b tremendously now.
And you still think GOP is just saying so.....

【在 n********r 的大作中提到】
: 好吧,如果这是共和党推动的,那算他们比民主党好一点。
: 我只是针对有些议员光动嘴皮子不干实事,或者说一套做一套。

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M*P
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你回信说咱们的8电话聊一下。然后探探口风

:前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
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c*t
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还是要好好准备,面试的要求还是挺高的!
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s*y
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mark 这个!

【在 s******t 的大作中提到】
: That's an administrative fix by Bush administration, similar to Obama on
: illegals last year.
: In 2000, AC21 was passed by GOP Majority House/Senate.
: In 2004, 20k Adv degrees exemption was passed by GOP Majority House/Senate.
: In 2008, STEM OPT extension was enacted by GOP President Bush, when it was
: DEM Majority House/Senate, so no law could be passed.
: The above 3 are benefiting EB23/H1b tremendously now.
: And you still think GOP is just saying so.....

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M*l
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准offer的意思。恭喜。但并不保险,可能还有一个三选二或者二选一的过程。
如果不是dream school或者还有其它大把面试,建议negotiate一下那个不能人员经费
不能超过两年的那一条。
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P*c
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G家一直就这样啊。他们电面的人不要太多,但是进onsite的很少,onsite成功的更是少之又少。跟其他公司不同,G家的电面是不需要hiring manager或者专业人员挑选的,只要recruiter看上了就安排。所以recruiter骚扰多少次都不能说明他们真的想要你。recruiter只是增加自己的portfolio而已,具体你有多大机会她也不是很清楚。她基本上本着多一个人就多一份希望的原则,当然太不match的还是不行,那样是浪费她自己的时间。
这个只能说明他们请了很多recruiter和recruiter比较卖力的在找人。他们的pool大的
很,各行各业凡是会编程的都会找人去面,国内的他们也面,要脱颖而出很不容易。看看版上面经的比例,就知道他们的pool有多大了。

【在 s******m 的大作中提到】
: 家庭主妇都2年了 HR最近不停写信骚扰要interview
: 现在过线应该满容易的 喜欢google的抓紧了

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c*e
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合法移民不是任何政党的根本利益,但共和党愿意单独优先处理合法移民挣一点credit
,而民主党坚决反对任何单独处理合法移民的改革,因为非法移民是他们的惟一利益,
合法的连个毛都不算,只能被迫绑定充当人肉垫脚石。
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H*N
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because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still
fishing around here, and will pull back anytime as he likes.

【在 M*P 的大作中提到】
: 为什么这么说?
:
: :the chair is a little bit sneaky, be careful.

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r*l
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是啊,google recruiter都好几层,一种专门到处联系人面试,这些都是外围的临时工
。。。
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t*e
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是这个道理。可惜一些老中被liberal媒体洗脑的彻底,还以为自己能加入老黑劳模的
大家庭呢。

credit

【在 c**e 的大作中提到】
: 合法移民不是任何政党的根本利益,但共和党愿意单独优先处理合法移民挣一点credit
: ,而民主党坚决反对任何单独处理合法移民的改革,因为非法移民是他们的惟一利益,
: 合法的连个毛都不算,只能被迫绑定充当人肉垫脚石。

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w*a
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我建议不要怕,可以把你的另外一个已经到手的offer告诉他。如果他真的要你,自然
会加快流程,如果只是虚情假意,自然也不会理你了。这种交流模式很费解。
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a*m
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g每年的申请以m为单位。
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m*t
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要是相信政客(不管哪国)说的话,你就输了。
但是作为合法移民,GOP的话确实比DEM的动听。
凭什么主党就公然宣称不会通过任何单独的合法移民议案。

【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: 还是觉得他们有些观点很persuasive,像sessions说:“一把赦了这么多非法的,让那
: 么多辛辛苦苦排队的合法的情何以堪”
: 还有Ted Cruz说的,“用合法移民纳的税去养非法的福利,真操蛋!”
: 不管怎么样,还是希望CIR过!

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M*P
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因为start up是negotiation的一部分,所以话不能说死。这个挺明确的了。

:because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
:make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still
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F*r
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这里的老中希望CIR过的唯一原因就是早日拿绿卡。共和党和民主党谁让它过就支持谁
,谁不让过就反对谁。扯其他的都没用。

【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 是这个道理。可惜一些老中被liberal媒体洗脑的彻底,还以为自己能加入老黑劳模的
: 大家庭呢。
:
: credit

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p*g
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两个角度去看:
1, 私下给你通风报信,但请注意contact candidates这个词,他用了复数,我给你
quote出来了, 说明这封信是统一的模板发给candidates---不是the only candidate.
而且他反复强调了,这是early negotiation,我给你也quote出来了。
2, 最后一段,保持了高度私密的态度。暗示你,这封信是给candidates发出,根本没
有给search committee发过。所以暗示你不要到处传播,因为最后一旦你落选,会显得
他lost credit了。
keep in mind, 任何无名无分,不能光明正大见人的事情,都是有变数和不确定性.
最后呢,总结一句,就是说,你是promising candidate, 也许你最终金榜题名,也许
你不是最好的,也许你给的budget里比别人的太多cost了,也许你negotiate的总体成
本也就是开出来的条件远高于其他candidates,这几种可能性都存在,都会导致不同的
结果。

faculty
I
the
that

【在 d*****t 的大作中提到】
: 前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
: Dear xxx,
: Thank you for taking the time to visit xxx to interview for the xxx faculty
: position.
: Following interviews, I gather feedback from faculty about the candidate. I
: then contact candidates that attract sufficient enthusiasm to start the
: process of developing a startup list. I am very pleased to let you know that
: you have moved to the next phase of this process.
: The final decision on offers is made following full evaluation of all
: candidates at a faculty meeting. Having this early negotiation process

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t*e
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这点我同意。现在很明显是共和党在推动合法移民改革,让老中拿绿卡 (牵头的是麦
凯恩,几乎所有让老中喝汤的条款都是共和党推动的),为啥版上的一些被CNN洗脑的
老中总说共和党“阻挠改革”,去舔民主党呢? 没有共和党这次CIR老中连汤都喝不上
,难道一些老中已经天真到以为民主党“支持移民”,所以大赦劳模的同时会顺便给老
中也发张绿卡? 这不是白日做梦么。如果民主党真的“支持移民”,为啥这些年来一
直绑架全体合法移民来试图大赦劳模?

【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: 这里的老中希望CIR过的唯一原因就是早日拿绿卡。共和党和民主党谁让它过就支持谁
: ,谁不让过就反对谁。扯其他的都没用。

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H*N
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It's not just on the start up that the chair was ambiguous. You can not even
tell how many people he is negotiating with at the moment.

still

【在 M*P 的大作中提到】
: 因为start up是negotiation的一部分,所以话不能说死。这个挺明确的了。
:
: :because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
: :make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still

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t*e
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更何况任何改革的本质都是两党谈判,不存在谁让过谁不让过的问题,如果民主党放弃
大赦劳模的话这个法案明天就能过。为啥版上一些被洗脑的老中整天指责共和党不让过
法案? 这次改革是共和党牵头的,所有有利老中的条款都是共和党推动的,但是民主
党漫天要价,大赦1100万,给免费医保,等等等等,法案不过的话显然民主党,尤其是
那个没有提词器就不会说话的奥巴马负主要责任。

【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: 这里的老中希望CIR过的唯一原因就是早日拿绿卡。共和党和民主党谁让它过就支持谁
: ,谁不让过就反对谁。扯其他的都没用。

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s*y
37
和这个聊完和那个聊,一堆counter offer,最后bid一个抄底价
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F*r
38
Jeff Sessions, Chuck Grassley 都是坚定的GOP反合法移民斗士。无论用什么标准来
评判,他们都在阻挠,而且是无所不用其极地阻挠合法移民改革。House 里赤裸裸歧视
合法移民的GOP议员就更多了。
还有,即使民主党放弃大赦,我也绝对不相信共和党会让移民改革过。共和党就是一个
反移民,反有色人种的党派。

【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 更何况任何改革的本质都是两党谈判,不存在谁让过谁不让过的问题,如果民主党放弃
: 大赦劳模的话这个法案明天就能过。为啥版上一些被洗脑的老中整天指责共和党不让过
: 法案? 这次改革是共和党牵头的,所有有利老中的条款都是共和党推动的,但是民主
: 党漫天要价,大赦1100万,给免费医保,等等等等,法案不过的话显然民主党,尤其是
: 那个没有提词器就不会说话的奥巴马负主要责任。

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H*N
39
that is the point

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 和这个聊完和那个聊,一堆counter offer,最后bid一个抄底价
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t*e
40
按你的标准所有民主党议员都是反移民斗士。民主党多年以来一直公开威胁不大赦非法
劳模就不改革合法移民,怎么在一些被洗脑的老中那里就不是反移民了?
我引用一下sillycat的帖子

2000年,GOP控制参众两院,通过了影响深远的AC21法案,保证了大家可以在拿绿卡之
前提前换工作。
2004年,GOP控制参众两院,通过了20k H1b ADV exemption,保证很多EB2C有较高概率
拿到H1b,进而申请绿卡。
2008年,DEM控制参众两院,Bush总统没法通过法律,改用executive fix使得STEM OPT
可以延期至29个月,很多EB2C也受益匪浅吧?
现在GOP还想帮合法移民做事情,CIR里面加了很多合法喝汤的条款,可惜力有不逮,完
全失势,版上一帮被DEM洗了脑的一个劲鼓吹GOP没有诚意。这些人恐怕有好大一部分利
用了AC21或者占了20k adv H1b的便宜,然后倒打一耙。。。

小布什用executive order给老中加了14个月的OPT, 奥巴马用executive order给非法
劳模发EAD. 究竟哪个党是反移民的党还不清楚么? 民主党支持的移民必须是非法的,
不工作的,吃福利的,会和美国国内的food stamp选民一起投民主党票的,你就别把自
己往里面算了。

【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Jeff Sessions, Chuck Grassley 都是坚定的GOP反合法移民斗士。无论用什么标准来
: 评判,他们都在阻挠,而且是无所不用其极地阻挠合法移民改革。House 里赤裸裸歧视
: 合法移民的GOP议员就更多了。
: 还有,即使民主党放弃大赦,我也绝对不相信共和党会让移民改革过。共和党就是一个
: 反移民,反有色人种的党派。

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d*a
41
先恭喜一下楼主。同意这个分析;这个地方,没拿到正式offer之前,不能假设有offer
了。

【在 H****N 的大作中提到】
: because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
: make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still
: fishing around here, and will pull back anytime as he likes.

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m*a
42
我昨天刚刚给sessions写了信

【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: 还是觉得他们有些观点很persuasive,像sessions说:“一把赦了这么多非法的,让那
: 么多辛辛苦苦排队的合法的情何以堪”
: 还有Ted Cruz说的,“用合法移民纳的税去养非法的福利,真操蛋!”
: 不管怎么样,还是希望CIR过!

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d*t
43
前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
Dear xxx,
Thank you for taking the time to visit xxx to interview for the xxx faculty
position.
Following interviews, I gather feedback from faculty about the candidate. I
then contact candidates that attract sufficient enthusiasm to start the
process of developing a startup list. I am very pleased to let you know that
you have moved to the next phase of this process.
The final decision on offers is made following full evaluation of all
candidates at a faculty meeting. Having this early negotiation process
started means that we can move faster on an offer as needed. I anticipate
extending offers in late November/December.
In order to determine a start-up package for your offer, I need to know what
you will need to get your research program up and running. It would be
helpful if you could work on putting together an itemized list of your start
-up needs. I have attached a template that you can work from, if that is
helpful.
Startup costs can include lab equipment and supplies, processing (e.g.
sequencing), personnel costs (summer salary for you, salary for graduate
students, postdocs, lab staff), travel, renovation and moving costs. Please
get estimated costs for any items you can. I will provide estimated costs
for personnel if you can just indicate who you anticipate needing. We can
determine any needed renovations after your second visit.
The expectation is that new faculty will receive a federal grant by their
third year, which will be used to support personnel. So we cannot extend
personnel costs beyond the first 2 years. Other expenses can extend into
year 3.
Keep in mind that this is an estimated summary of what you will need to get
your program up and running. It is not a contract. You will receive a lump
sum of money and can spend this as you see fit, including re-budgeting if
you receive a grant in your first year or two.
This list will not be shared with the Search Committee nor considered as we
determine offers. It is simply to allow me to negotiate the strongest offer
I can.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
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s*y
44
其实共和党这样做也有道理。
合法移民,特别是职业移民,基本不太会靠吃福利生活。很多老中拿卡稳定下来后,在
政治、经济方面更倾向于认同共和党。

credit

【在 c**e 的大作中提到】
: 合法移民不是任何政党的根本利益,但共和党愿意单独优先处理合法移民挣一点credit
: ,而民主党坚决反对任何单独处理合法移民的改革,因为非法移民是他们的惟一利益,
: 合法的连个毛都不算,只能被迫绑定充当人肉垫脚石。

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o*e
45
恭喜,我你大概是one of their top candidates或有的地方叫acceptable group..
Chair也不确定Top candidates 会不会全来, 或有人会不来, 所以有点含糊不清。
但是他现在要和院长要资源了, 需要知道大概的数目。
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w*r
46
最起码不能把自己的国家往坑里面推,民主党就是在挖美国的坟墓。

【在 s***y 的大作中提到】
: 其实共和党这样做也有道理。
: 合法移民,特别是职业移民,基本不太会靠吃福利生活。很多老中拿卡稳定下来后,在
: 政治、经济方面更倾向于认同共和党。
:
: credit

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l*e
47
恭喜,你们面试的好早啊
我们还没结束申请....

faculty
I
that

【在 d*****t 的大作中提到】
: 前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
: Dear xxx,
: Thank you for taking the time to visit xxx to interview for the xxx faculty
: position.
: Following interviews, I gather feedback from faculty about the candidate. I
: then contact candidates that attract sufficient enthusiasm to start the
: process of developing a startup list. I am very pleased to let you know that
: you have moved to the next phase of this process.
: The final decision on offers is made following full evaluation of all
: candidates at a faculty meeting. Having this early negotiation process

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c*i
48
上次聽一個NPR左棍的節目把我噁心壞了。主持人不停的稱讚農場的非法移民,暗諷硅
谷的外國工程師,號稱後者不能自私,要把兩方面聯合起來才有出路等等。
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M*P
49
这是准offer。startup才给两年,这个比较tough。

:前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
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H*N
50
the chair is a little bit sneaky, be careful.
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M*P
51
为什么这么说?

:the chair is a little bit sneaky, be careful.
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M*P
52
你回信说咱们的8电话聊一下。然后探探口风

:前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
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M*l
53
准offer的意思。恭喜。但并不保险,可能还有一个三选二或者二选一的过程。
如果不是dream school或者还有其它大把面试,建议negotiate一下那个不能人员经费
不能超过两年的那一条。
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H*N
54
because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still
fishing around here, and will pull back anytime as he likes.

【在 M*P 的大作中提到】
: 为什么这么说?
:
: :the chair is a little bit sneaky, be careful.

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w*a
55
我建议不要怕,可以把你的另外一个已经到手的offer告诉他。如果他真的要你,自然
会加快流程,如果只是虚情假意,自然也不会理你了。这种交流模式很费解。
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M*P
56
因为start up是negotiation的一部分,所以话不能说死。这个挺明确的了。

:because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
:make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still
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p*g
57
两个角度去看:
1, 私下给你通风报信,但请注意contact candidates这个词,他用了复数,我给你
quote出来了, 说明这封信是统一的模板发给candidates---不是the only candidate.
而且他反复强调了,这是early negotiation,我给你也quote出来了。
2, 最后一段,保持了高度私密的态度。暗示你,这封信是给candidates发出,根本没
有给search committee发过。所以暗示你不要到处传播,因为最后一旦你落选,会显得
他lost credit了。
keep in mind, 任何无名无分,不能光明正大见人的事情,都是有变数和不确定性.
最后呢,总结一句,就是说,你是promising candidate, 也许你最终金榜题名,也许
你不是最好的,也许你给的budget里比别人的太多cost了,也许你negotiate的总体成
本也就是开出来的条件远高于其他candidates,这几种可能性都存在,都会导致不同的
结果。

faculty
I
the
that

【在 d*****t 的大作中提到】
: 前天的面试,今天系主任发了信(如下)。这个算准offer,还是算进short list了?
: Dear xxx,
: Thank you for taking the time to visit xxx to interview for the xxx faculty
: position.
: Following interviews, I gather feedback from faculty about the candidate. I
: then contact candidates that attract sufficient enthusiasm to start the
: process of developing a startup list. I am very pleased to let you know that
: you have moved to the next phase of this process.
: The final decision on offers is made following full evaluation of all
: candidates at a faculty meeting. Having this early negotiation process

avatar
H*N
58
It's not just on the start up that the chair was ambiguous. You can not even
tell how many people he is negotiating with at the moment.

still

【在 M*P 的大作中提到】
: 因为start up是negotiation的一部分,所以话不能说死。这个挺明确的了。
:
: :because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
: :make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still

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s*y
59
和这个聊完和那个聊,一堆counter offer,最后bid一个抄底价
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H*N
60
that is the point

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 和这个聊完和那个聊,一堆counter offer,最后bid一个抄底价
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d*a
61
先恭喜一下楼主。同意这个分析;这个地方,没拿到正式offer之前,不能假设有offer
了。

【在 H****N 的大作中提到】
: because he makes very ambiguous statements. in most places, people would
: make an offer to the first choice and say so very clearly, but he is still
: fishing around here, and will pull back anytime as he likes.

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d*t
62
谢谢各位前辈的回复。这个学校还是很想去的,现在手上也没有其他的offer能够作为
bargain的筹码,只好先将startup list发给他然后再等等看了。
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m*p
63
this is a 投石问路 offer. if you are not asking for anything unreasonable,
an offer will follow. congrats!
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