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考题专访3:Interview with Dr. Yitang (Tom) Zhang# Faculty - 发考题
H*y
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I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
the 2014 MacArthur Award.
Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
projects with your peers?
Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new
problem involves a lot of intuition. You may have some feeling about the
possible strategies that could work or the direction it’s heading toward,
but articulating your thoughts to others can be difficult. The nature of my
research determines that I’m not in a business that invites teamwork or
benefits from collaborations. A mathematician needs to endure solitude, and
I have been avoiding activity that’s unlikely to yield a meaningful outcome.
Fiona: That’s interesting. What you have described sounds almost like
artistic creation. What got you interested in the study of twin primes
conjecture? How would you summarize its impact?
Dr. Zhang: I have known this conjecture for many years. It is interesting to
many people, not only to me. I think it’s possible that more hypotheses in
this area may stem from my work, but that could take a while and, for now,
it’s not clear.
Fiona: You once said there are other on-going projects you are proud of, but
wouldn’t want to throw them out yet?
Dr. Zhang: Yes, but it is not easy to describe them right now. All I can say
is that they don’t quite belong to the same category of the problem I have
just solved. And I can’t map out a timeline when they might be finished.
It could happen one day unexpectedly, just like the last time.
Fiona: How does your mind engage in different research topics?
Dr. Zhang: I used to concentrate on one problem, but also try to know what
happened to others. To me, there is no boundary that separates work from the
rest of my life. When I’m working on a problem, it lingers in my mind all
the time.
Fiona: In physics, a law doesn’t have to be unconditional or universal to
be valuable. People constantly bring up new theories that overwrite an old
principle or exceed its limit. Is being right or wrong more absolute in
mathematics? Do you agree with what Michio Kaku said about God being a
mathematician?
Dr. Zhang: In mathematics the situation might be different. For example, it
was Euclid who first proved that there are infinitely many prime numbers.
Today we can only say this is true. Although sometimes I do marvel at the
exquisite structure of math and its power to explain the physical world,
generally I’m not a philosophical person who likes to dwell on the origin
or purpose of life.
Fiona: If you were given a chance to go back in time and rebuild your career
, would you have done anything differently? Did you remain optimistic during
the days when things didn’t work out?
Dr. Zhang: I might have done something differently, as I have learned many
lessons from my academic career. For example, at the beginning, I should
have listed all possible methods that could apply to my problem; once I
ignored some of them, I wasted time. But I used to be optimistic, as I
regarded the difficult time was just the start of a new road.
Fiona: You mentioned you don’t like the distractions of a large team. Do
you plan to recruit students in the near future?
Dr. Zhang: I have been considering this problem, but no decision has been
made. In the past few years, I have received several applications from
prospective students, most of whom were Chinese. Because those were not full
applications but Letters of Interest, with limited mentoring experience, I
was uncertain how to judge the qualification of the applicant and whether a
match existed.
Of course, I want my students to eventually become masters of the field,
not just qualified graduates who could find jobs. In the past summers, I
was invited to spend time in the Chinese Academy of Sciences, where I saw
clear talents in their students. I have been interacting with and advising
a few of them, but a formal relationship is yet to be established.
Fiona: I hope something would work out soon. What is your favorite course to
teach?
Dr. Zhang: It is hard to say. I love teaching various courses. Giving
lectures in a classroom is different from mentoring graduate students. I
have more experience with the former but little with the latter.
Fiona: Would you like to say something about the western academia and
scientists in their early careers?
Dr. Zhang: What the academia here attracts me the most is the freedom to
pursue topics we are interested in. I’d like to tell the young scientists:
if you really love sciences, do not give up easily.
Acknowledgement: Some questions were contributed by Sunnyday.
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q*g
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对高妹的佩服真是如滔滔江水连绵不绝,又如黄河泛滥一发而不可收拾
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x*5
3
膜拜一下

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【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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s*y
4
呵呵呵,我问的是一个八卦的问题,但是他的回答出乎我的意料之外。
只能说老张还真的是一个很纯粹的研究者啊。可敬可敬!
另外,高妹能从老张那里套出那么多话来很不容易啊,老张是出了名的闷葫芦,
很难采访的。

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【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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z*e
5
谢谢高老师,高老师辛苦了

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【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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h*0
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很好的采访,希望听一些 Prof Zhang 对解决其他重要问题的展望包括他说过的丽满猜
想。
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M*o
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Fiona: If you were given a chance to go back in time and rebuild your career
, would you have done anything differently? Did you remain optimistic during
the days when things didn’t work out?
这个?

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵呵,我问的是一个八卦的问题,但是他的回答出乎我的意料之外。
: 只能说老张还真的是一个很纯粹的研究者啊。可敬可敬!
: 另外,高妹能从老张那里套出那么多话来很不容易啊,老张是出了名的闷葫芦,
: 很难采访的。
:
: at
: with
: of

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w*h
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thanks...这是三个采访里我唯一仔细看的。。。

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【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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w*h
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能猜出是哪个。
他回答的角度还是对于过去学术问题的解决方案上,
而不是那些生活琐碎。

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵呵,我问的是一个八卦的问题,但是他的回答出乎我的意料之外。
: 只能说老张还真的是一个很纯粹的研究者啊。可敬可敬!
: 另外,高妹能从老张那里套出那么多话来很不容易啊,老张是出了名的闷葫芦,
: 很难采访的。
:
: at
: with
: of

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b*1
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高妹威武,老张真是个纯粹的数学人啊。膜拜!

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【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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s*y
11
其实除了八卦问题,我也问了一些正经问题的。不过那些正经问题高妹自己本来就想问
。嘻嘻。

career
during

【在 M****o 的大作中提到】
: Fiona: If you were given a chance to go back in time and rebuild your career
: , would you have done anything differently? Did you remain optimistic during
: the days when things didn’t work out?
: 这个?

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H*y
12
我想说的是,和张老师谈话的感想就是,真的是成就越大的人越朴实,和蔼,不摆架子
。尤其难得的是,他没有说一出名就忙着扩建队伍和地盘,这对他来讲应该是很容易做
到的。看得出他确实首先顾虑的是自己的科研模式,如何能保证继续出成果。在招学生
方面也是很谨慎的。
谢谢热风最先提议采访张老师。胖老师谦虚了,这里面有不止一个是你提的问题。
tangseng: 接下来那句是不是该烧黄纸拜兄弟了,呵呵。
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s*y
13

这就是为什么老张最后成了老张,而我依然是个猥琐男的原因吧。

【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 能猜出是哪个。
: 他回答的角度还是对于过去学术问题的解决方案上,
: 而不是那些生活琐碎。

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w*h
14
也许只是他刻意回避了那个方向而已。。。
想想也是阿,有啥好说的呢。。。

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这就是为什么老张最后成了老张,而我依然是个猥琐男的原因吧。

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h*w
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非常好,谢谢高妹分享
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T*g
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感谢分享。
Fiona: Would you like to say something about the western academia and
scientists in their early careers?
Dr. Zhang: What the academia here attracts me the most is the freedom to
pursue topics we are interested in. I’d like to tell the young scientists:
if you really love sciences, do not give up easily
老张生活在一个不需要grant proposal的discipline,这个建议对其他discipline完全
不适用啊。
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u*n
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多谢高妹的采访和分享。老张一直都是俺的偶像。
"Persistence is the key to success."
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H*y
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你说的这个问题值得探讨,我最近也一直在想。隔壁有个贴,讲的是老板AP五年都没发
paper,就为了攒data来申请R01。虽说funding是评tenure和继续做实验的必须,但他
这种策略错在哪里呢?
如果你真的是热爱研究的,不断做实验,发paper来和业界交流的话,你是不会少数据
和idea的,数据只能越来越多, idea只能越来越好。很多人在AP前两年就拿到R01,那
时候是不怎么看paper的。但那么多年了都不productive,就会让人怀疑你都干啥去了。
这就像参政,真正绞尽心思向上爬的那些政客很快就会被人遗忘。建立千秋功业的,反
而是发自内心要服务大众改变世界的。所以我认为张老师的建议,其实是最好的。

【在 T*******g 的大作中提到】
: 感谢分享。
: Fiona: Would you like to say something about the western academia and
: scientists in their early careers?
: Dr. Zhang: What the academia here attracts me the most is the freedom to
: pursue topics we are interested in. I’d like to tell the young scientists:
: if you really love sciences, do not give up easily
: 老张生活在一个不需要grant proposal的discipline,这个建议对其他discipline完全
: 不适用啊。

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R*t
19
高妹,你的专访2是对谁啊?有链接吗?
只记得专访1是Yin Xi了。

【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: 你说的这个问题值得探讨,我最近也一直在想。隔壁有个贴,讲的是老板AP五年都没发
: paper,就为了攒data来申请R01。虽说funding是评tenure和继续做实验的必须,但他
: 这种策略错在哪里呢?
: 如果你真的是热爱研究的,不断做实验,发paper来和业界交流的话,你是不会少数据
: 和idea的,数据只能越来越多, idea只能越来越好。很多人在AP前两年就拿到R01,那
: 时候是不怎么看paper的。但那么多年了都不productive,就会让人怀疑你都干啥去了。
: 这就像参政,真正绞尽心思向上爬的那些政客很快就会被人遗忘。建立千秋功业的,反
: 而是发自内心要服务大众改变世界的。所以我认为张老师的建议,其实是最好的。

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R*t
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哈,在你的profile里就有:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Faculty/31751059.html
发信人: Highly (高妹), 信区: Faculty
标 题: 考题专访2:关于BME学科的建设
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Nov 15 17:46:45 2015, 美东)
Dr. T 是谁啊?怎么评论的水都已经被清了吗?

【在 R*******t 的大作中提到】
: 高妹,你的专访2是对谁啊?有链接吗?
: 只记得专访1是Yin Xi了。

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T*s
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赞高美妹和老张一个! 吹毛求疵一下: 读完后总有点意尤未尽的感觉,问题如果更
Deep 一些就好了,比如研究做得特别牛的人一般都比常人能忍受solitude, 老张也属
于这种,而混迹本版的大小faculty们基本上不属于这种,如果能请教一下老张"如何"
做到这一点的就好了, 不过这可能会和他的精神信仰或世界观有关系。
给高妹提个建议: 这种大家都感兴趣的采访可以事先向大家征集问题。

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of

【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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s*y
22
老张是个出名的不适合采访的人,因为他是个惜言如金的人。你问他一个很长的问题往
往被他直接来一个两三个字的答案来回答。高妹能直接在他那里挖出这么多话来已经很
难了。
你想问的这个问题,其实高妹问了,但是她可能觉得这个问题有点offensive, 就没有
直接这么问而是把这个问题揉碎了放在几个不同的地方间接的问。

【在 T******s 的大作中提到】
: 赞高美妹和老张一个! 吹毛求疵一下: 读完后总有点意尤未尽的感觉,问题如果更
: Deep 一些就好了,比如研究做得特别牛的人一般都比常人能忍受solitude, 老张也属
: 于这种,而混迹本版的大小faculty们基本上不属于这种,如果能请教一下老张"如何"
: 做到这一点的就好了, 不过这可能会和他的精神信仰或世界观有关系。
: 给高妹提个建议: 这种大家都感兴趣的采访可以事先向大家征集问题。
:
: at
: with
: of

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H*y
23
RandomBit: 第二个专访没有什么评论。因为Dr. T是我同事,不是大家熟悉的人物,拿
来share一下是觉得他的见解有些同行可能会感兴趣(我尤其喜欢他说的课程设计应该
match发考题专长这一点儿)。虽然很多人知道我是谁,但把他名字隐去起码可以隔一
层^_^。
另,之所以搞两个马甲就是希望别人在我这个马甲的profile里可以迅速找到比较有意
思的文章啦。另一个马甲就用来平常给我胡闹好了,呵呵。
TwoMoons: 之所以没来征集问题是因为没接触张老师之前,还不知道他会不会理我这种
小喽啰。怕让大家白忙活一场。没有想到他是个非常平易近人的人。
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M*o
24
http://www.sciencenets.com/home.php?mod=space&do=blog&uid=478&i
做实验也可以就菜下锅嘛

了。
scientists
完全

【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: 你说的这个问题值得探讨,我最近也一直在想。隔壁有个贴,讲的是老板AP五年都没发
: paper,就为了攒data来申请R01。虽说funding是评tenure和继续做实验的必须,但他
: 这种策略错在哪里呢?
: 如果你真的是热爱研究的,不断做实验,发paper来和业界交流的话,你是不会少数据
: 和idea的,数据只能越来越多, idea只能越来越好。很多人在AP前两年就拿到R01,那
: 时候是不怎么看paper的。但那么多年了都不productive,就会让人怀疑你都干啥去了。
: 这就像参政,真正绞尽心思向上爬的那些政客很快就会被人遗忘。建立千秋功业的,反
: 而是发自内心要服务大众改变世界的。所以我认为张老师的建议,其实是最好的。

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h*0
25
高妹已经做了极好的工作。 但要赞这个提议,任何人都有知识和兴趣的局限性,通过
事先征求问题可以极大
提高采访的信息量和准确度。

【在 T******s 的大作中提到】
: 赞高美妹和老张一个! 吹毛求疵一下: 读完后总有点意尤未尽的感觉,问题如果更
: Deep 一些就好了,比如研究做得特别牛的人一般都比常人能忍受solitude, 老张也属
: 于这种,而混迹本版的大小faculty们基本上不属于这种,如果能请教一下老张"如何"
: 做到这一点的就好了, 不过这可能会和他的精神信仰或世界观有关系。
: 给高妹提个建议: 这种大家都感兴趣的采访可以事先向大家征集问题。
:
: at
: with
: of

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a*e
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赞一个!

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of

【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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s*y
27
牛啊,我还真不知道发明石墨烯的那个老哥居然还得过搞笑炸药奖。
那片科普文写得真的很不错,把它单独贴一下吧。

【在 M****o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.sciencenets.com/home.php?mod=space&do=blog&uid=478&i
: 做实验也可以就菜下锅嘛
:
: 了。
: scientists
: 完全

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H*y
28
这篇文章的作者水平真不一般,很欣赏!这样的人当老师,讲课一定不会闷。
还有一个插曲讲一下。开始不是phone interview,是将一堆问题email寄过去。答案回
来后,胖老师看了也说希望再问得深一些,于是和张老师约了时间打电话。结果当天打
过去没有人接,后来收到email,说因为意外去了医院。我那时很内疚,觉得自己就是
愣头愣脑打扰人家,也不清楚别人那边的状况。胖老师也说,我们毕竟不是专职记者要
回去交差,为了满足自己好奇心打扰别人就不好了。结果张老师说两天后可以打给他。
于是从中挑了几个问题着重问了下。

【在 M****o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.sciencenets.com/home.php?mod=space&do=blog&uid=478&i
: 做实验也可以就菜下锅嘛
:
: 了。
: scientists
: 完全

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R*t
29
多谢分享这些经历和前面的回答!
张老师真是不光是牛人,也值得交朋友啊。

【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: 这篇文章的作者水平真不一般,很欣赏!这样的人当老师,讲课一定不会闷。
: 还有一个插曲讲一下。开始不是phone interview,是将一堆问题email寄过去。答案回
: 来后,胖老师看了也说希望再问得深一些,于是和张老师约了时间打电话。结果当天打
: 过去没有人接,后来收到email,说因为意外去了医院。我那时很内疚,觉得自己就是
: 愣头愣脑打扰人家,也不清楚别人那边的状况。胖老师也说,我们毕竟不是专职记者要
: 回去交差,为了满足自己好奇心打扰别人就不好了。结果张老师说两天后可以打给他。
: 于是从中挑了几个问题着重问了下。

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c*n
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你真闲 没人管 不要打扰别人的清静
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d*n
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干货:穷举是人类认知的根本手段,如果上天再给老张一次机会,他会把穷举用得更好
一些以期待节省时间来扫描下一话题。
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n*o
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两个成年后由中国大陆出来的人之间的交谈,发表在中文网站,竟然全部是英文。
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h*0
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别忘了,这是在美国的网站,如果你只看中文,请登录人民日报海外版。

【在 n**********o 的大作中提到】
: 两个成年后由中国大陆出来的人之间的交谈,发表在中文网站,竟然全部是英文。
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T*g
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我的意思是academia对于别人来讲可能不一定有freedom to pursue what you like

了。

【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: 你说的这个问题值得探讨,我最近也一直在想。隔壁有个贴,讲的是老板AP五年都没发
: paper,就为了攒data来申请R01。虽说funding是评tenure和继续做实验的必须,但他
: 这种策略错在哪里呢?
: 如果你真的是热爱研究的,不断做实验,发paper来和业界交流的话,你是不会少数据
: 和idea的,数据只能越来越多, idea只能越来越好。很多人在AP前两年就拿到R01,那
: 时候是不怎么看paper的。但那么多年了都不productive,就会让人怀疑你都干啥去了。
: 这就像参政,真正绞尽心思向上爬的那些政客很快就会被人遗忘。建立千秋功业的,反
: 而是发自内心要服务大众改变世界的。所以我认为张老师的建议,其实是最好的。

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R*t
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话虽没错,张老师愿意聊也是缘分。不愿意聊的也就不采访了呗,也没啥。

【在 c********n 的大作中提到】
: 你真闲 没人管 不要打扰别人的清静
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H*N
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赞一个
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r*e
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果然是大师,要培养的学生也是将来的大师,很难望其项背啊.

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【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: I recently had a phone interview with Dr. Zhang, Professor of Mathematics at
: University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with
: the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not
: cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of
: the 2014 MacArthur Award.
: Fiona: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few
: connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your
: projects with your peers?
: Dr. Zhang: I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without
: communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new

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s*t
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great interview!
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H*y
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大家如果纠结中英文的话,我就再说多两句。之前的每次采访,都是我还没提语言的事
,被采访者就主动提出用英文的。尹老师说他用中文讲话比较冒失,张老师说他这里敲
中文不方便(看来肯定是不常灌水的)。包括后面几个(期待ing)也基本都已选择用
英文,可能因为很多专业术语大家都已经习惯用英文讲了。当然我一早也说下要收录到
书中,可能大家也是为了方便我不用翻译。

【在 n**********o 的大作中提到】
: 两个成年后由中国大陆出来的人之间的交谈,发表在中文网站,竟然全部是英文。
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