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v*i
1
Background:
Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
review: 16 articles for 3 journals
citation: <10
在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
4/27/10 RD
5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
claim 的3条全部被否定:
1. review (有editor's supporting letter)
成千上万的人都有review别人的文章,editor的信不能证明你的outstanding,也不能
证明比别人牛
2. contribution
推荐信不能说明申请人的outstanding
patent只能说明参加了original的工作,不能说明international outstanding。需要
有patent commercialization 的证据
3. authorship
发表文章是researcher的工作
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a*t
2

patent
pat pat.

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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h*r
3
Citation is a little bit low, but should be a strong case for EB1B.
Just try again, you will get it.

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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d*3
4
和我的情况很象,看来IO越来越看中citation了
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b*s
5
scary... looks quite strong to me. don't know what will happen with my
application.
Bless!
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w*m
6
seems background not bad. unlucky
what did editor's supporting letter say?

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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p*t
7
pat pat!!
应该能过的,IO疯了?

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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K*o
8
re-refile to TSC with PP. u will get approved quickly
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A*d
9
DIY, refile
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y*p
10
祝福楼主下次成功
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a*5
11
这么强还悲剧?
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v*i
12
这是关于review的部分,就是不承认review 是outstanding
The record includes evidence that the beneficiary served as a reviewer for
xxx, xxx and xxx. Dr. xxx, the executive editor of xxx states in a letter
dated June 2, 2010 that, “only scientist who have established track records
of excellence in the field are considered as potential reviewers to judge
the work of other submitted.” Dr. xxx states that the beneficiary “has
been selected as one of our regular reviewers and invited to review nine
manuscripts, soley

【在 w*********m 的大作中提到】
: seems background not bad. unlucky
: what did editor's supporting letter say?
:
: patent

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v*i
13
是的, 你也是NSC的?

【在 d*****3 的大作中提到】
: 和我的情况很象,看来IO越来越看中citation了
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v*i
14
citation 是硬伤,因为文章都比较新,而且我们领域的citation也不是很多。真的不
知道怎么办。

【在 h*********r 的大作中提到】
: Citation is a little bit low, but should be a strong case for EB1B.
: Just try again, you will get it.
:
: patent

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b*r
15
this letter is not strong. Should mention sth like "only top scientists and
researcheinvited as reviewers" or "the reviewers must have an international
reputation in his/her given field of expertise". "Excellence" is not enough.
Just my thoughts.

records

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: 这是关于review的部分,就是不承认review 是outstanding
: The record includes evidence that the beneficiary served as a reviewer for
: xxx, xxx and xxx. Dr. xxx, the executive editor of xxx states in a letter
: dated June 2, 2010 that, “only scientist who have established track records
: of excellence in the field are considered as potential reviewers to judge
: the work of other submitted.” Dr. xxx states that the beneficiary “has
: been selected as one of our regular reviewers and invited to review nine
: manuscripts, soley

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v*i
16
本来刚开始想PP到TSC,律师怕麻烦就算了。RFE后,等了一段时间PP没有成功,因为决
定已经做完了。

【在 K**o 的大作中提到】
: re-refile to TSC with PP. u will get approved quickly
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t*i
17
try again
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p*o
18
你这信没international和outstanding这样的关键字,恐怕不好用。
而且估计其他的推荐信和petition letter也是这样 ...

records

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: 这是关于review的部分,就是不承认review 是outstanding
: The record includes evidence that the beneficiary served as a reviewer for
: xxx, xxx and xxx. Dr. xxx, the executive editor of xxx states in a letter
: dated June 2, 2010 that, “only scientist who have established track records
: of excellence in the field are considered as potential reviewers to judge
: the work of other submitted.” Dr. xxx states that the beneficiary “has
: been selected as one of our regular reviewers and invited to review nine
: manuscripts, soley

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l*y
19
bless~~~~~
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c*g
20
Comfort!
中秋节看到这样的消息确实让人沮丧
你review的杂志排名高吗?
我的律师没让我去要editor的信,我们只是在PL里罗列了我review的杂志里面排名高的
,在ISI个个category里面都排第几名,后来这条承认了
当然我review的文章总数也不算少

for
letter
records
judge
nine
this
other

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: 这是关于review的部分,就是不承认review 是outstanding
: The record includes evidence that the beneficiary served as a reviewer for
: xxx, xxx and xxx. Dr. xxx, the executive editor of xxx states in a letter
: dated June 2, 2010 that, “only scientist who have established track records
: of excellence in the field are considered as potential reviewers to judge
: the work of other submitted.” Dr. xxx states that the beneficiary “has
: been selected as one of our regular reviewers and invited to review nine
: manuscripts, soley

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w*m
21
IO sucks!
you are good enough, just bad luck

records

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: 这是关于review的部分,就是不承认review 是outstanding
: The record includes evidence that the beneficiary served as a reviewer for
: xxx, xxx and xxx. Dr. xxx, the executive editor of xxx states in a letter
: dated June 2, 2010 that, “only scientist who have established track records
: of excellence in the field are considered as potential reviewers to judge
: the work of other submitted.” Dr. xxx states that the beneficiary “has
: been selected as one of our regular reviewers and invited to review nine
: manuscripts, soley

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a*u
22
E-file to TSC with PP.
Your case is stronger than me. My I140 was approved in just three days.
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g*e
23
楼主真的不弱,安慰下, 好好组织材料再来。

【在 w*********m 的大作中提到】
: seems background not bad. unlucky
: what did editor's supporting letter say?
:
: patent

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v*i
24
是啊,律师写的PL和RFE回复 我总是觉得差些什么而且律师比较顽固。RFE的回复还是
交上去以后才通知我的。

【在 p***o 的大作中提到】
: 你这信没international和outstanding这样的关键字,恐怕不好用。
: 而且估计其他的推荐信和petition letter也是这样 ...
:
: records

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G*0
25
pat pat
Your case should be strong enough for Eb-1B. Try again!
Also, I think for EB1B, claim 2 is enough

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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l*t
26
you can try e-file to TSC
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i*d
27
第一,换律师。
第二,如果你文笔够好,自己重新准备申请材料,所有材料。好好在家憋上三个月,写
出来的得让你自己读着都觉着“我不是牛人谁是牛人啊”。
第三,我说一个原因,当然这个你可能没法改变:公司太小。你这条件要是业界大公司
并且是research职位,IO大概看都不看就批了。

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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d*g
28
Your case is quite strong.
Who is the lawyer you are using? Just want to avoid him for my case.
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v*i
29
多谢各位回复,还有一个问题
在公司工作这几年,弄了2个新产品(主要负责人)一个去年已经上市,市场反映还不
错在美国还是第一家。另外一个估计年底上市, 也是独一无二的新产品。不知道这个
可不可以放到contribution里?有点犹豫因为保密,既没有文章,也没有专利;可以找
到一些媒体报道但没有我的名字。应该可以让CEO写支持信表明我是主要的负责人,也
可以找一些业界的人做reference。

【在 d******g 的大作中提到】
: Your case is quite strong.
: Who is the lawyer you are using? Just want to avoid him for my case.

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m*a
30
我觉得你东西挺多的,估计吹牛吹的太保守。没有具体的吹,天花乱坠的吹。呵呵!
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j*o
31
nsc的不要老是找推荐信,推荐信在nsc不顶什么用,nsc越来越注重硬条件,越来越觉
得推荐信都是参考的,不是几年前推荐信包打天下的时候了
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w*m
32
you definitely should put this into contribution
mention it can bring many positions for US
媒体报道但没有我的名字, put into contribution

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: 多谢各位回复,还有一个问题
: 在公司工作这几年,弄了2个新产品(主要负责人)一个去年已经上市,市场反映还不
: 错在美国还是第一家。另外一个估计年底上市, 也是独一无二的新产品。不知道这个
: 可不可以放到contribution里?有点犹豫因为保密,既没有文章,也没有专利;可以找
: 到一些媒体报道但没有我的名字。应该可以让CEO写支持信表明我是主要的负责人,也
: 可以找一些业界的人做reference。

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g*x
33
可能citation 太少了,contribution 一条过不去,另外一条就看着更危险了。
真的要避开nsc吗?也是嫌麻烦不想efile到 TSC呢?不是说现在TSC也是PP太多,很容
易被noid或rfe吗?
BLess~~~

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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m*e
34
IO 疯掉了。你这样的情况应该通过的。
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I*n
35
Appeal also need a re-examination of your case by another IO, even the
director, at least someone more experienced. AAO tend not to revoke the
original decision and admit the IO made a mistake, otherwise IOs will
probably complain.
Re-file is definitely a much better choice. Most likely quicker or much
quicker. Even cheaper.
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w*m
36
and refiling, they can get more money? so they prefer more money i guess

【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】
: Appeal also need a re-examination of your case by another IO, even the
: director, at least someone more experienced. AAO tend not to revoke the
: original decision and admit the IO made a mistake, otherwise IOs will
: probably complain.
: Re-file is definitely a much better choice. Most likely quicker or much
: quicker. Even cheaper.

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n*e
37
我也建议你换律师,
本身不强的case,居然让你claim六条,这样火力分散,显得哪条都不强,
合并起来,claim 2-3项就够了
产品开发,要ceo写信证明 可能有用,放contribution里面
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b*0
38
refile

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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s*i
39
nsc是很重视引用的,你这么少的引用应该efile到tsc,pp有可能rfe,不pp有可能被转
到nsc。把公司的产品经验什么的放到contribution,tsc好像很喜欢这个的。
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g*e
40
Try to PP and send it to TSC next time. Bless!

patent

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: Background:
: Engineering, 9 journal articles (8 first author) + 12 conference, 1 patent
: review: 16 articles for 3 journals
: citation: <10
: 在一小公司(~70 人)做R&D。
: 4/27/10 RD
: 5/18/10 RFE,所有的6条全部被RFE,IO 535
: 9/3/10 被拒, 今天才收到据信因为USCIS把地址搞错了
: claim 的3条全部被否定:
: 1. review (有editor's supporting letter)

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m*c
41
the lawyer is ridiculous to claim all 6. definitely not appeal, no chance to
win if you still hire this lawyer. lawyer wants to get more money, change a
lawyer or DIY.
although citation is less, considering your contribution is secret, plus CEO
or other strong reference+ market feeedback, it should approve your
contribution.
meanwhile, increase reviews
refile to TSC
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i*c
42
是啊,会不会一直抓住引用太少做文章啊?
大家说引用少不是问题么?
公司小不是问题么?

【在 g****x 的大作中提到】
: 可能citation 太少了,contribution 一条过不去,另外一条就看着更危险了。
: 真的要避开nsc吗?也是嫌麻烦不想efile到 TSC呢?不是说现在TSC也是PP太多,很容
: 易被noid或rfe吗?
: BLess~~~
:
: patent

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d*m
43
看来挺难的.是不是很偶然性很有关系.
我一个朋友去年年底申请的,我看journal文章三四个,其中还有不是第一作者的.是做电
路的.引用不是很清楚. 申请后顺利通过.
我是现在开始准备申请eb1b.
我想问问在中国发表的文章中文期刊引用算吗? 还有期刊里排到第几作者算?
英文引用,那些会议文章引用算吗,还有别人的专利引用你的文章算吗?
多谢.
bless楼主, 重新试试看吧.我现在的专业也是别人引用极低的专业,原来在中国做的工
作别人还有不少零星引用.
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s*t
44
EB1-B的媒体报道不需要有你的名字,只要是介绍你的resear就行了。这个是从刘律师
的贴子里看到的。

【在 v********i 的大作中提到】
: 多谢各位回复,还有一个问题
: 在公司工作这几年,弄了2个新产品(主要负责人)一个去年已经上市,市场反映还不
: 错在美国还是第一家。另外一个估计年底上市, 也是独一无二的新产品。不知道这个
: 可不可以放到contribution里?有点犹豫因为保密,既没有文章,也没有专利;可以找
: 到一些媒体报道但没有我的名字。应该可以让CEO写支持信表明我是主要的负责人,也
: 可以找一些业界的人做reference。

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l*y
45
E-file to TSC, PP. My Eb1-B was denied at NSC, and approved at TSC. My
backgrond is not stronger compared with yours. Good Luck!!
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d*m
46
lonelyhappy,什么是pp,真惭愧,刚来这个版,
很多缩写都不懂.
看看楼主的case很强啊,就是citation少点而已.
信心有点动摇.但是看看自己同学的case,又信心大增.
我觉得还是运气问题,偶然性很强.
楼主重新整理材料再试试!
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l*y
47
加急处理
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