c*e
2 楼
谢谢！
问大家一个问题, 关于绿卡的claim authorship
这个authorship只能是paper和conference abstract么？
如果给了一个talk，但是这个talk没有proceeding也没有正式的abstract，这个东西可
以算authorship么？（是个在某个公司的invited talk, 网上是有记录的，但是不是学
术presentation，所以没有conference abstract这种东西）
另一个问题是：eb1b一定要claim authorship么？可以只claim review和contribution
么？
自己的authorship太弱，真是不想claim.可是网上有人说, authorship和contribution
相辅相成，即使是eb1b也需要claim authorship，不然IO都懒得看contribution直接
reject了
问大家一个问题, 关于绿卡的claim authorship
这个authorship只能是paper和conference abstract么？
如果给了一个talk，但是这个talk没有proceeding也没有正式的abstract，这个东西可
以算authorship么？（是个在某个公司的invited talk, 网上是有记录的，但是不是学
术presentation，所以没有conference abstract这种东西）
另一个问题是：eb1b一定要claim authorship么？可以只claim review和contribution
么？
自己的authorship太弱，真是不想claim.可是网上有人说, authorship和contribution
相辅相成，即使是eb1b也需要claim authorship，不然IO都懒得看contribution直接
reject了
a*t
3 楼
几百个?发包子吧
【在 p***A 的大作中提到】
: WOW.. what's in the box?
【在 p***A 的大作中提到】
: WOW.. what's in the box?
d*n
4 楼
如果你能提供证据是你的talk,个人认为应该算
第二个问题回答起来很难，不能说你claim review and contribution行或不行，你的
背景是什么情况，authorship弱，有多弱，说一下，可以帮你分析分析。
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢！
: 问大家一个问题, 关于绿卡的claim authorship
: 这个authorship只能是paper和conference abstract么？
: 如果给了一个talk，但是这个talk没有proceeding也没有正式的abstract，这个东西可
: 以算authorship么？（是个在某个公司的invited talk, 网上是有记录的，但是不是学
: 术presentation，所以没有conference abstract这种东西）
: 另一个问题是：eb1b一定要claim authorship么？可以只claim review和contribution
: 么？
: 自己的authorship太弱，真是不想claim.可是网上有人说, authorship和contribution
: 相辅相成，即使是eb1b也需要claim authorship，不然IO都懒得看contribution直接
第二个问题回答起来很难，不能说你claim review and contribution行或不行，你的
背景是什么情况，authorship弱，有多弱，说一下，可以帮你分析分析。
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢！
: 问大家一个问题, 关于绿卡的claim authorship
: 这个authorship只能是paper和conference abstract么？
: 如果给了一个talk，但是这个talk没有proceeding也没有正式的abstract，这个东西可
: 以算authorship么？（是个在某个公司的invited talk, 网上是有记录的，但是不是学
: 术presentation，所以没有conference abstract这种东西）
: 另一个问题是：eb1b一定要claim authorship么？可以只claim review和contribution
: 么？
: 自己的authorship太弱，真是不想claim.可是网上有人说, authorship和contribution
: 相辅相成，即使是eb1b也需要claim authorship，不然IO都懒得看contribution直接
z*8
5 楼
talk可以算contribution，算authorship有点勉强
b*e
6 楼
西可
这个不算。这个authorship可不是随便发表一篇technical report就是的，必须是
international circulated books or articles.
contribution
contribution
当然不一定。就看你能够做到哪一些了。 比如说有同学没文章，但是有很多牛逼专利
，并且创造了很大的价值，那当然也能够claim这一项。
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢！
: 问大家一个问题, 关于绿卡的claim authorship
: 这个authorship只能是paper和conference abstract么？
: 如果给了一个talk，但是这个talk没有proceeding也没有正式的abstract，这个东西可
: 以算authorship么？（是个在某个公司的invited talk, 网上是有记录的，但是不是学
: 术presentation，所以没有conference abstract这种东西）
: 另一个问题是：eb1b一定要claim authorship么？可以只claim review和contribution
: 么？
: 自己的authorship太弱，真是不想claim.可是网上有人说, authorship和contribution
: 相辅相成，即使是eb1b也需要claim authorship，不然IO都懒得看contribution直接
d*n
7 楼
http://www.yale.edu/perception/Brian/misc/musings/bjs-authorshi
"Authorship on a paper can signal that a person carefully designed a project
; that they wrote part or all of the paper; that they had no role in
designing or writing but that they nevertheless spent a significant amount
of time and effort working on it; that they simply had some particularly
good ideas relating to the project; that they belong to the lab in which the
project was conducted, but did not participate directly; that they helped
out with the data analysis; that they owned the equipment on which the
experiments were run; that they simply hold a senior position in the lab in
which the project was carried out but aren't even familiar with the specific
project; etc."
【在 z**********8 的大作中提到】
: talk可以算contribution，算authorship有点勉强
"Authorship on a paper can signal that a person carefully designed a project
; that they wrote part or all of the paper; that they had no role in
designing or writing but that they nevertheless spent a significant amount
of time and effort working on it; that they simply had some particularly
good ideas relating to the project; that they belong to the lab in which the
project was conducted, but did not participate directly; that they helped
out with the data analysis; that they owned the equipment on which the
experiments were run; that they simply hold a senior position in the lab in
which the project was carried out but aren't even familiar with the specific
project; etc."
【在 z**********8 的大作中提到】
: talk可以算contribution，算authorship有点勉强
y*z
8 楼
I also want to the issue of authorship. Every one, please express your
opinion.
For the conference abstract, can we claim the authorship to IO?
opinion.
For the conference abstract, can we claim the authorship to IO?
y*z
9 楼
顶 一下
d*n
10 楼
发信人: dharmacon (静心), 信区: Immigration
标 题: Re: 问二个eb1b claim authroship的问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 19 09:03:20 2013, 美东)
http://www.yale.edu/perception/Brian/misc/musings/bjs-authorshi
"Authorship on a paper can signal that a person carefully designed a project
; that they wrote part or all of the paper; that they had no role in
designing or writing but that they nevertheless spent a significant amount
of time and effort working on it; that they simply had some particularly
good ideas relating to the project; that they belong to the lab in which the
project was conducted, but did not participate directly; that they helped
out with the data analysis; that they owned the equipment on which the
experiments were run; that they simply hold a senior position in the lab in
which the project was carried out but aren't even familiar with the specific
project; etc."
【在 z**********8 的大作中提到】
: talk可以算contribution，算authorship有点勉强
标 题: Re: 问二个eb1b claim authroship的问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 19 09:03:20 2013, 美东)
http://www.yale.edu/perception/Brian/misc/musings/bjs-authorshi
"Authorship on a paper can signal that a person carefully designed a project
; that they wrote part or all of the paper; that they had no role in
designing or writing but that they nevertheless spent a significant amount
of time and effort working on it; that they simply had some particularly
good ideas relating to the project; that they belong to the lab in which the
project was conducted, but did not participate directly; that they helped
out with the data analysis; that they owned the equipment on which the
experiments were run; that they simply hold a senior position in the lab in
which the project was carried out but aren't even familiar with the specific
project; etc."
【在 z**********8 的大作中提到】
: talk可以算contribution，算authorship有点勉强
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