s*s
2 楼
不知道倒底应该从哪个学起? 然后重点学哪个?
c*e
3 楼
ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
【在 s****s 的大作中提到】
: 不知道倒底应该从哪个学起? 然后重点学哪个?
【在 s****s 的大作中提到】
: 不知道倒底应该从哪个学起? 然后重点学哪个?
s*s
4 楼
什么意思, 能具体说说吗? 比如分别应该看哪几本书?
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
r*r
5 楼
下面4本书怎么样？
Thinking in Java 4th Edition.pdf
Spring in Action 3rd Edition.pdf
just_spring.pdf
Manning - Hibernate in Action.pdf
Thinking in Java看了看，觉着讲的很清楚。不知道是不是实用？是不是每章都要细细
读几遍，每个例子，每道练习题都要仔细研究？
Thinking in Java 4th Edition.pdf
Spring in Action 3rd Edition.pdf
just_spring.pdf
Manning - Hibernate in Action.pdf
Thinking in Java看了看，觉着讲的很清楚。不知道是不是实用？是不是每章都要细细
读几遍，每个例子，每道练习题都要仔细研究？
b*y
6 楼
学j2se吧，这个是标准和basics, 所以用的多。很多小公司买不起j2ee的package的，
比如说.
比如说.
T*U
7 楼
j2ee需要什么package?
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 学j2se吧，这个是标准和basics, 所以用的多。很多小公司买不起j2ee的package的，
: 比如说.
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 学j2se吧，这个是标准和basics, 所以用的多。很多小公司买不起j2ee的package的，
: 比如说.
M*r
8 楼
Do not mislead novice.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
c*e
9 楼
ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
复杂了。
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: Do not mislead novice.
hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
复杂了。
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: Do not mislead novice.
M*r
10 楼
All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
denying some options up-front.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
: hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
: 复杂了。
new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
denying some options up-front.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
: hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
: 复杂了。
g*g
11 楼
You are right that EJB 3 is simpler than Spring/Hibernate Combo. But Spring/
Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
. If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
use.
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
. If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
use.
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
e*t
12 楼
同意好虫，ejb3不像过去了，已经相当好用了。可是对于很多企业，招人也主要是维护
当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
Spring/
both
the
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: You are right that EJB 3 is simpler than Spring/Hibernate Combo. But Spring/
: Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
: richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
: . If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
: end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
: use.
:
: The
: recommendation
: than
当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
Spring/
both
the
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: You are right that EJB 3 is simpler than Spring/Hibernate Combo. But Spring/
: Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
: richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
: . If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
: end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
: use.
:
: The
: recommendation
: than
t*e
13 楼
大的原则上ejb3和spring3基本上差不多了。但小细节上还是不如spring方便。需要添
加很多第三方的libs。我感觉remote interface是越来越没用。作为remoting
solution不如web services, 又不能用DI，也不是提高scalability唯一的手段。特别
是妨碍open session in view的实现，无法容忍。
【在 e*****t 的大作中提到】
: 同意好虫，ejb3不像过去了，已经相当好用了。可是对于很多企业，招人也主要是维护
: 当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
:
: Spring/
: both
: the
加很多第三方的libs。我感觉remote interface是越来越没用。作为remoting
solution不如web services, 又不能用DI，也不是提高scalability唯一的手段。特别
是妨碍open session in view的实现，无法容忍。
【在 e*****t 的大作中提到】
: 同意好虫，ejb3不像过去了，已经相当好用了。可是对于很多企业，招人也主要是维护
: 当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
:
: Spring/
: both
: the
a*i
14 楼
EJB或者JavaEE现在还有什么“新”技术？
比的是现在的EJB和Spring，而不是现在的EJB和十年前的EJB
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
比的是现在的EJB和Spring，而不是现在的EJB和十年前的EJB
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
M*r
15 楼
这里跟果fan版谷fan版有一拼
s*s
16 楼
不知道倒底应该从哪个学起? 然后重点学哪个?
c*e
17 楼
ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
【在 s****s 的大作中提到】
: 不知道倒底应该从哪个学起? 然后重点学哪个?
【在 s****s 的大作中提到】
: 不知道倒底应该从哪个学起? 然后重点学哪个?
s*s
18 楼
什么意思, 能具体说说吗? 比如分别应该看哪几本书?
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
r*r
19 楼
下面4本书怎么样？
Thinking in Java 4th Edition.pdf
Spring in Action 3rd Edition.pdf
just_spring.pdf
Manning - Hibernate in Action.pdf
Thinking in Java看了看，觉着讲的很清楚。不知道是不是实用？是不是每章都要细细
读几遍，每个例子，每道练习题都要仔细研究？
Thinking in Java 4th Edition.pdf
Spring in Action 3rd Edition.pdf
just_spring.pdf
Manning - Hibernate in Action.pdf
Thinking in Java看了看，觉着讲的很清楚。不知道是不是实用？是不是每章都要细细
读几遍，每个例子，每道练习题都要仔细研究？
b*y
20 楼
学j2se吧，这个是标准和basics, 所以用的多。很多小公司买不起j2ee的package的，
比如说.
比如说.
T*U
21 楼
j2ee需要什么package?
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 学j2se吧，这个是标准和basics, 所以用的多。很多小公司买不起j2ee的package的，
: 比如说.
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 学j2se吧，这个是标准和basics, 所以用的多。很多小公司买不起j2ee的package的，
: 比如说.
M*r
22 楼
Do not mislead novice.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb别学了，就学core java,spring,hibernate.
c*e
23 楼
ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
复杂了。
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: Do not mislead novice.
hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
复杂了。
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: Do not mislead novice.
M*r
24 楼
All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
denying some options up-front.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
: hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
: 复杂了。
new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
denying some options up-front.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
: hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
: 复杂了。
g*g
25 楼
You are right that EJB 3 is simpler than Spring/Hibernate Combo. But Spring/
Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
. If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
use.
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
. If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
use.
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
e*t
26 楼
同意好虫，ejb3不像过去了，已经相当好用了。可是对于很多企业，招人也主要是维护
当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
Spring/
both
the
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: You are right that EJB 3 is simpler than Spring/Hibernate Combo. But Spring/
: Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
: richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
: . If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
: end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
: use.
:
: The
: recommendation
: than
当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
Spring/
both
the
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: You are right that EJB 3 is simpler than Spring/Hibernate Combo. But Spring/
: Hibernate is still the de facto in the industry. For flexibility and a
: richer set of API. If you are still in school, it doesn't hurt to learn both
: . If you only have time to pick up one, I recommend Spring/hibernate. At the
: end of the day, the majority of us don't decide which framework we should
: use.
:
: The
: recommendation
: than
t*e
27 楼
大的原则上ejb3和spring3基本上差不多了。但小细节上还是不如spring方便。需要添
加很多第三方的libs。我感觉remote interface是越来越没用。作为remoting
solution不如web services, 又不能用DI，也不是提高scalability唯一的手段。特别
是妨碍open session in view的实现，无法容忍。
【在 e*****t 的大作中提到】
: 同意好虫，ejb3不像过去了，已经相当好用了。可是对于很多企业，招人也主要是维护
: 当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
:
: Spring/
: both
: the
加很多第三方的libs。我感觉remote interface是越来越没用。作为remoting
solution不如web services, 又不能用DI，也不是提高scalability唯一的手段。特别
是妨碍open session in view的实现，无法容忍。
【在 e*****t 的大作中提到】
: 同意好虫，ejb3不像过去了，已经相当好用了。可是对于很多企业，招人也主要是维护
: 当前系统，或者develop new features.所以ejb3相比之下还是没有那么popular了。
:
: Spring/
: both
: the
a*i
28 楼
EJB或者JavaEE现在还有什么“新”技术？
比的是现在的EJB和Spring，而不是现在的EJB和十年前的EJB
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
比的是现在的EJB和Spring，而不是现在的EJB和十年前的EJB
The
recommendation
than
【在 M***r 的大作中提到】
: All right, it seems you have not followed new technologies for a while. The
: new EJB (including JPA) is much easier to start with, even comparing to
: Spring/hibernate combo. I don't mean spring is out. I mean a recommendation
: with background (e.g. when I was using EJB 10 years ago, ...) is better than
: denying some options up-front.
M*r
29 楼
这里跟果fan版谷fan版有一拼
q*a
30 楼
J2EE
L*s
31 楼
you are still living in the decades before EJB 3.1, JPA 2.0 and JSF 2.1 came.
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
: hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
: 复杂了。
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: ejb挺复杂的，学起来不容易。工作需要里面也没人提ejb,现在都在提spring,
: hibernate. c++没java流行，根本原因就是c++把编程搞复杂了。java ejb也把java搞
: 复杂了。
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