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别吵了,是你的跑不了,不是你的拽也没用# Law - 律师事务所
o*e
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我的学长,化学PHD,学校排名30开外,GPA拿不出手,刚拿了5个2L SUMMER OFFER都是有
名的所, 南加州,$2400/wk。
IP。
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m*s
2
Do you know any chinese law student who's not doing IP? Say corporate law?
How are they doing? thx



【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 我的学长,化学PHD,学校排名30开外,GPA拿不出手,刚拿了5个2L SUMMER OFFER都是有
: 名的所, 南加州,$2400/wk。
: IP。

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m*s
3
还有, patent prosecution 和 litigation 到底有什么不同? 是一个只写写, 一个
上法庭打官司的吗? 中国人不做litigation是英语不好的问题吗? 做litigation是不
是要象电视里一样的, 要quick thinking, 要好口才 那样? 谢谢



【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: Do you know any chinese law student who's not doing IP? Say corporate law?
: How are they doing? thx
:
: 有

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m*s
4
acutally I am better at communicate with people, but I am afraid I don't have
the necessary quick thinking and persuaion abilities, even though the though
it intrigues me quite a lot. I know I don't want to push paper for the rest
of my life, therefore I am still contemplaiting about law school.
I will admit being financially successful is very attractive to me, but I
definily won't do a job which I will hate.

not

做litigation是
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m*s
5
haha, thanks for your honesty. but I really liked the defense attornies on
TV, and from what I have read, those law student who were interns for defense
attornies, they said the real thing is even better!!!!!!

in
though
rest
anybody.
your
is
at
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j*d
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ft, lawyering is not just about communicating with people, it's about cutting
the crap and getting to the bottom of things. 你跟别人JJWW了两天,别人都搞不清
楚你想说什么,想问什么,咱们就别想litigation了.反正英语做为第二语言的外国人,想上
法庭,实在是有些幻想.能到court打打DUI什么的官司就不错了.

have
the
kinda

【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: acutally I am better at communicate with people, but I am afraid I don't have
: the necessary quick thinking and persuaion abilities, even though the though
: it intrigues me quite a lot. I know I don't want to push paper for the rest
: of my life, therefore I am still contemplaiting about law school.
: I will admit being financially successful is very attractive to me, but I
: definily won't do a job which I will hate.
:
: not
: 一
: 做litigation是

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m*s
7
dude, take it easy. I never said communicating with people is the only thing,
I was merely referring to myself. Compare to sitting in my cubicle and
deriving forumulars by myself, which is what I am doing for about 40hr a week,
I enjoy work with people a lot more, that's all I was trying to say.
actully pink knew what I was asking exactly, he just didn't want to answer
them, which is fine by me.

cutting


though
rest
anybody.
your
is
at

corporate

【在 j******d 的大作中提到】
: ft, lawyering is not just about communicating with people, it's about cutting
: the crap and getting to the bottom of things. 你跟别人JJWW了两天,别人都搞不清
: 楚你想说什么,想问什么,咱们就别想litigation了.反正英语做为第二语言的外国人,想上
: 法庭,实在是有些幻想.能到court打打DUI什么的官司就不错了.
:
: have
: the
: kinda

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j*d
8
OK. another thing lawyers need to do is to beat the sh*t out of people even
when they are reluctant to tell.
all I said was Chinese not born in the US is not suitble for litigation. If
you enjoy working with people, there are a whole bunch of careers out there
other than practicing law.

thing,
week,

楚你想说什么,想问什么,咱们就别想litigation了.反正英语做为第二语言的外国人,想
I
command

【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: dude, take it easy. I never said communicating with people is the only thing,
: I was merely referring to myself. Compare to sitting in my cubicle and
: deriving forumulars by myself, which is what I am doing for about 40hr a week,
: I enjoy work with people a lot more, that's all I was trying to say.
: actully pink knew what I was asking exactly, he just didn't want to answer
: them, which is fine by me.
:
: cutting
: 清
: 上

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m*s
9

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If I were a lawyer, and pink was the witness, maybe. In here, definily not.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
well, I won't lie. Law pays well, and give me a chance to work with people.
The only other profession fits the criterion I can think of is docotor, that's
definily to late for me now, but law school is still possible.

don't
the
but

【在 j******d 的大作中提到】
: OK. another thing lawyers need to do is to beat the sh*t out of people even
: when they are reluctant to tell.
: all I said was Chinese not born in the US is not suitble for litigation. If
: you enjoy working with people, there are a whole bunch of careers out there
: other than practicing law.
:
: thing,
: week,
: 不
: 楚你想说什么,想问什么,咱们就别想litigation了.反正英语做为第二语言的外国人,想

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j*d
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no no no no no. a good lawyer should get words out of anyone he intends to,
not just from witnesses.
other than litigation, most lawyers dont deal with people at all. they do
exactly what you do in your cub: read the paper, and write down what they get.
If you can not do litigation, there is not much point practicing law since you
want both money and interpersonal communication, with the latter one lacking
for most lawyers.
end of story. I dont' see the point we are talking about. good luck with
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m*s
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
can you do this? maybe you shouldn't jump to the conclusion that I won't make
a good lawyer.
get.
you
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
that's not contradicting. between a job with virtully no human contact (the
current one) and bad pay, and a job with relativly more possibility of working
with people and pay better (lawyer), I would definily take the second one.
and that's why I am considering law school.
So why are you doing law then? just cu

【在 j******d 的大作中提到】
: no no no no no. a good lawyer should get words out of anyone he intends to,
: not just from witnesses.
: other than litigation, most lawyers dont deal with people at all. they do
: exactly what you do in your cub: read the paper, and write down what they get.
: If you can not do litigation, there is not much point practicing law since you
: want both money and interpersonal communication, with the latter one lacking
: for most lawyers.
: end of story. I dont' see the point we are talking about. good luck with

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m*s
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no, I won't take c**p from them, if I don't like to argue anymore, I will just
be like the originl poster, leave. Actually that's the reason I am THE target
now, because that dude left, kind ironic hum. I used to be a diver on here,
few times I decided to surface, I got caught, hoho.

do
they
since
(the
people
definily
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a*y
13
dude, you are pretty good. You literally revived this board. :)
I'm wondering about the same thing as you are: what about corporate law
besides IP? I know it sounds like a bad idea to throw away the master or
doctor degree, but I'd like to explore other options. In addition to coporate
law, it seems like personal injury is also lucrative, but is it often referred
to as "ambulence chaser"? This line might require one to appear in court
though. On the other hand, I don't like immigration law.
What

【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: no, I won't take c**p from them, if I don't like to argue anymore, I will just
: be like the originl poster, leave. Actually that's the reason I am THE target
: now, because that dude left, kind ironic hum. I used to be a diver on here,
: few times I decided to surface, I got caught, hoho.
:
: do
: they
: since
: (the
: people

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a*y
14
That's something we'd like to know! Thanks, otheme :)



【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 我的学长,化学PHD,学校排名30开外,GPA拿不出手,刚拿了5个2L SUMMER OFFER都是有
: 名的所, 南加州,$2400/wk。
: IP。

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m*s
15
well, I can tell you what I know.
I personaly know only one guy doing M&A. early 30, jewish guy. He went to a
small, but ok law school, maybe ranked at top 50. He said he didn't want to
work for big firms, so he decidecd to "kick back" and work for a medium size
firm, how medium, I don't know. Anyways, he told me specifically he billed
about 2100 hrs a year ago, and he's making about 150K give or take a little.
He said everytime a big case comes down, they start working in groups. I
don't k

【在 a*********y 的大作中提到】
: dude, you are pretty good. You literally revived this board. :)
: I'm wondering about the same thing as you are: what about corporate law
: besides IP? I know it sounds like a bad idea to throw away the master or
: doctor degree, but I'd like to explore other options. In addition to coporate
: law, it seems like personal injury is also lucrative, but is it often referred
: to as "ambulence chaser"? This line might require one to appear in court
: though. On the other hand, I don't like immigration law.
: What

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a*y
16
Thanks for the great input. Very encouraging.

a
to
than
IP,
considered,
will

【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: well, I can tell you what I know.
: I personaly know only one guy doing M&A. early 30, jewish guy. He went to a
: small, but ok law school, maybe ranked at top 50. He said he didn't want to
: work for big firms, so he decidecd to "kick back" and work for a medium size
: firm, how medium, I don't know. Anyways, he told me specifically he billed
: about 2100 hrs a year ago, and he's making about 150K give or take a little.
: He said everytime a big case comes down, they start working in groups. I
: don't k

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