看看这个关于CRY-IT-OUT# NextGeneration - 我爱宝宝
z*2
1 楼
http://www.amazon.com/4moms-Goodnight-Sleep-Trainer-Gray/dp/B00
REVIEW好像很批判啊
看来美国人也很多都觉得要自然而然地等到孩子睡整觉，
真是矛盾我到底要不要训练呢？
大家看过很多书的来讨论一下？
REVIEW好像很批判啊
看来美国人也很多都觉得要自然而然地等到孩子睡整觉，
真是矛盾我到底要不要训练呢？
大家看过很多书的来讨论一下？
m*a
2 楼
it's really a personal choice. I sleep trained my son and don't have any
regret. now he naps much much better than before. and since he rests well,
he is a much happier boy than before. That said, I also respect those
opinions against sleep training. It's like a Chinese old saying: 如人饮水，
冷暖自知。
regret. now he naps much much better than before. and since he rests well,
he is a much happier boy than before. That said, I also respect those
opinions against sleep training. It's like a Chinese old saying: 如人饮水，
冷暖自知。
a*y
3 楼
CRY-IT-OUT is not always the solution for everyone. from my reading, it is
true that 美国人也很多都觉得要自然而然地等到孩子睡整觉. half of babies with
weight more than 11 lbs can sleep 5 hours at night, that is the defination
of 整觉 in baby. around 4 or 5 month, half of them can sleep 8 hours at
night.
i did not train my baby. she follows the rule. but some days, even after she
started to sleep whole night, i need feed her at 4:00am. that is
usually her growth spurt happens. she need feedinding more often at these days. you 'd better rule out health reasons before start o use CRY-IT-OUT. and dont
strat it too early.
true that 美国人也很多都觉得要自然而然地等到孩子睡整觉. half of babies with
weight more than 11 lbs can sleep 5 hours at night, that is the defination
of 整觉 in baby. around 4 or 5 month, half of them can sleep 8 hours at
night.
i did not train my baby. she follows the rule. but some days, even after she
started to sleep whole night, i need feed her at 4:00am. that is
usually her growth spurt happens. she need feedinding more often at these days. you 'd better rule out health reasons before start o use CRY-IT-OUT. and dont
strat it too early.
z*2
4 楼
整觉的定义除了4,5个小时以外，那么在这个时间段里BABY是完全不哼唧到哭需要大人
抱起来安慰吗？
with
defination
she
days. you 'd better rule out health reasons before start o use CRY-IT-OUT.
and dont
【在 a**y 的大作中提到】
: CRY-IT-OUT is not always the solution for everyone. from my reading, it is
: true that 美国人也很多都觉得要自然而然地等到孩子睡整觉. half of babies with
: weight more than 11 lbs can sleep 5 hours at night, that is the defination
: of 整觉 in baby. around 4 or 5 month, half of them can sleep 8 hours at
: night.
: i did not train my baby. she follows the rule. but some days, even after she
: started to sleep whole night, i need feed her at 4:00am. that is
: usually her growth spurt happens. she need feedinding more often at these days. you 'd better rule out health reasons before start o use CRY-IT-OUT. and dont
: strat it too early.
抱起来安慰吗？
with
defination
she
days. you 'd better rule out health reasons before start o use CRY-IT-OUT.
and dont
【在 a**y 的大作中提到】
: CRY-IT-OUT is not always the solution for everyone. from my reading, it is
: true that 美国人也很多都觉得要自然而然地等到孩子睡整觉. half of babies with
: weight more than 11 lbs can sleep 5 hours at night, that is the defination
: of 整觉 in baby. around 4 or 5 month, half of them can sleep 8 hours at
: night.
: i did not train my baby. she follows the rule. but some days, even after she
: started to sleep whole night, i need feed her at 4:00am. that is
: usually her growth spurt happens. she need feedinding more often at these days. you 'd better rule out health reasons before start o use CRY-IT-OUT. and dont
: strat it too early.
T*k
5 楼
我一直搞不清楚的是为什么cry it out就突然学会睡整觉了
这里面的原理是什么
这个问题问得很nerdy阿，哈哈
【在 m*a 的大作中提到】
: it's really a personal choice. I sleep trained my son and don't have any
: regret. now he naps much much better than before. and since he rests well,
: he is a much happier boy than before. That said, I also respect those
: opinions against sleep training. It's like a Chinese old saying: 如人饮水，
: 冷暖自知。
这里面的原理是什么
这个问题问得很nerdy阿，哈哈
【在 m*a 的大作中提到】
: it's really a personal choice. I sleep trained my son and don't have any
: regret. now he naps much much better than before. and since he rests well,
: he is a much happier boy than before. That said, I also respect those
: opinions against sleep training. It's like a Chinese old saying: 如人饮水，
: 冷暖自知。
k*n
6 楼
我觉得是条件反射，哭了没用，就自己睡了。也不是突然就学会的，也要几天时间的，
从1个小时到半个小时，到几分钟，到哼唧哼唧，所以说是训
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: 我一直搞不清楚的是为什么cry it out就突然学会睡整觉了
: 这里面的原理是什么
: 这个问题问得很nerdy阿，哈哈
从1个小时到半个小时，到几分钟，到哼唧哼唧，所以说是训
【在 T*********k 的大作中提到】
: 我一直搞不清楚的是为什么cry it out就突然学会睡整觉了
: 这里面的原理是什么
: 这个问题问得很nerdy阿，哈哈
z*x
7 楼
我狠不下心
k*n
8 楼
哈哈，舍不得孩子套不到狼，训过的妈妈都是大灰狼，我就是一个
不过宝宝养成好习惯其实是双赢
【在 z**x 的大作中提到】
: 我狠不下心
不过宝宝养成好习惯其实是双赢
【在 z**x 的大作中提到】
: 我狠不下心
z*x
9 楼
我几乎是由着孩子顺其自然长大的，吃睡都是，吃也不硬灌，睡也不硬按，到现在还是
由着她每天玩够
了自己困了爬上床睡，不过娃越大越贪玩，我有时候也不得不硬下心肠干扰一下了。
【在 k**n 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，舍不得孩子套不到狼，训过的妈妈都是大灰狼，我就是一个
: 不过宝宝养成好习惯其实是双赢
由着她每天玩够
了自己困了爬上床睡，不过娃越大越贪玩，我有时候也不得不硬下心肠干扰一下了。
【在 k**n 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，舍不得孩子套不到狼，训过的妈妈都是大灰狼，我就是一个
: 不过宝宝养成好习惯其实是双赢
z*2
10 楼
我想所有的妈妈都很矛盾吧
也在孩子本身
【在 z**x 的大作中提到】
: 我几乎是由着孩子顺其自然长大的，吃睡都是，吃也不硬灌，睡也不硬按，到现在还是
: 由着她每天玩够
: 了自己困了爬上床睡，不过娃越大越贪玩，我有时候也不得不硬下心肠干扰一下了。
也在孩子本身
【在 z**x 的大作中提到】
: 我几乎是由着孩子顺其自然长大的，吃睡都是，吃也不硬灌，睡也不硬按，到现在还是
: 由着她每天玩够
: 了自己困了爬上床睡，不过娃越大越贪玩，我有时候也不得不硬下心肠干扰一下了。
h*u
11 楼
sleep trainging不等于cry-it-out啊。为什么很多妈妈总是default的认为sleep
training 就是cry-it-out。
training 就是cry-it-out。
a*y
12 楼
会哼唧或哭两声，但不需要大人抱起来安慰就自己又睡着了。根据书上说的，一个睡眠
周期包括深度睡眠和浅度睡眠， 大约3-4小时一个周期。好像是浅度睡眠期婴儿容易醒
过来。当他身体条件成熟时，他会自己又睡着的。如果大人抱起来安慰，反而妨碍婴儿
养成自己入睡的能力。如果醒来哭的时间长一些，你可以试着轻轻拍拍他。实在不行再
抱起来。
我家的娃在长身体时，我还是会起来喂她。长身体一般也就持续1周左右。（大约在2wk
, 6wk, 3 month ）。我家宝宝出生时体重在15%， 现在75%。在头两个月， 开始起来3
次， 慢慢到1次。然后就开始一觉从5小时，到现在7小时。I never expect that.
但是婴儿太小时，或有reflux等问题时, 强行用CRY-IT-OUT，并不科学。
I read the link and I totally agree with the comments on the top. a nurse who checks up my baby everyweek since she was 3 month old, said she is a happy and least fussy baby she has ever seen around her clients. we are always there when our baby need us. Thanks for share the link!!!
周期包括深度睡眠和浅度睡眠， 大约3-4小时一个周期。好像是浅度睡眠期婴儿容易醒
过来。当他身体条件成熟时，他会自己又睡着的。如果大人抱起来安慰，反而妨碍婴儿
养成自己入睡的能力。如果醒来哭的时间长一些，你可以试着轻轻拍拍他。实在不行再
抱起来。
我家的娃在长身体时，我还是会起来喂她。长身体一般也就持续1周左右。（大约在2wk
, 6wk, 3 month ）。我家宝宝出生时体重在15%， 现在75%。在头两个月， 开始起来3
次， 慢慢到1次。然后就开始一觉从5小时，到现在7小时。I never expect that.
但是婴儿太小时，或有reflux等问题时, 强行用CRY-IT-OUT，并不科学。
I read the link and I totally agree with the comments on the top. a nurse who checks up my baby everyweek since she was 3 month old, said she is a happy and least fussy baby she has ever seen around her clients. we are always there when our baby need us. Thanks for share the link!!!
a*y
13 楼
Somebody gave this to my daughter after the birth of her son. Fortunately
her Dad is a pediatrician and her mom teaches parenting classes so she grew
up knowing better. First off you should never try to get a 4 month old to
sleep through the night. Even Dr. Richard Ferber, the most well know
advocate of sleep training doesn't recommend starting it till the child is
at least six months old. If it comes naturally to them, fine, but at that
point in their development most children need to wake and nurse both for
physiological and emotional reasons. If you really want to know more about
this I suggest reading What's Going on in There? : How the Brain and Mind
Develop in the First Five Years of Life. But as my husband tells his new
patients and I tell my classes: worry less about reading books than about
reading babies.
Secondly while the "progressive waiting" method is one of the accepted
methods for sleep training, you should not just automatically increase the
spacings. To quote the person most incorrectly associated with blindly
advocating this method (Dr Ferber again): "Simply leaving a child in a crib
to cry for long periods alone until he falls sleep, no matter how long it
takes, is not an approach I approve of. On the contrary, many of the
approaches I recommend are designed specifically to avoid unnecessary crying
." If you read Ferber's book it is far more about setting up a routine (
during the day and night) than the dreaded, leave-the-baby-in-the-crib-
crying step. Ferber doesn't recommend "cry it out" because it's not healthy.
To over simplify: a frightened, crying baby produces excess cortisol. Too
much of this impacts neurological development. A four month old isn't crying
to tick you off. They're crying because they need you. If they're hungry,
feed them. If they're lonely, nurture them. You can't spoil them, the
circuitry isn't even there for that. It's not called spoiling, it's called
parenting.
We've become a people addicted to connivence, but raising happy healthy
babies will never be convenient. No $20 device is going to help you be a
better parent. Trust your instinct, trust your baby, and use the brain God
gave you to find the balance between healthy amount of sleep for parents and
baby, and a healthy amount of nurturing too. I've had six kids. One slept
through the night after three months. One after 18 months (he woke up to
nurse constantly - now he's 6' 4" and still snacks late at night!). Most of
the rest fell somewhere in-between. In the end I managed to pack them all
off to college. Relax, trust yourself, and you and the baby will figure out
this sleep thing eventually.
her Dad is a pediatrician and her mom teaches parenting classes so she grew
up knowing better. First off you should never try to get a 4 month old to
sleep through the night. Even Dr. Richard Ferber, the most well know
advocate of sleep training doesn't recommend starting it till the child is
at least six months old. If it comes naturally to them, fine, but at that
point in their development most children need to wake and nurse both for
physiological and emotional reasons. If you really want to know more about
this I suggest reading What's Going on in There? : How the Brain and Mind
Develop in the First Five Years of Life. But as my husband tells his new
patients and I tell my classes: worry less about reading books than about
reading babies.
Secondly while the "progressive waiting" method is one of the accepted
methods for sleep training, you should not just automatically increase the
spacings. To quote the person most incorrectly associated with blindly
advocating this method (Dr Ferber again): "Simply leaving a child in a crib
to cry for long periods alone until he falls sleep, no matter how long it
takes, is not an approach I approve of. On the contrary, many of the
approaches I recommend are designed specifically to avoid unnecessary crying
." If you read Ferber's book it is far more about setting up a routine (
during the day and night) than the dreaded, leave-the-baby-in-the-crib-
crying step. Ferber doesn't recommend "cry it out" because it's not healthy.
To over simplify: a frightened, crying baby produces excess cortisol. Too
much of this impacts neurological development. A four month old isn't crying
to tick you off. They're crying because they need you. If they're hungry,
feed them. If they're lonely, nurture them. You can't spoil them, the
circuitry isn't even there for that. It's not called spoiling, it's called
parenting.
We've become a people addicted to connivence, but raising happy healthy
babies will never be convenient. No $20 device is going to help you be a
better parent. Trust your instinct, trust your baby, and use the brain God
gave you to find the balance between healthy amount of sleep for parents and
baby, and a healthy amount of nurturing too. I've had six kids. One slept
through the night after three months. One after 18 months (he woke up to
nurse constantly - now he's 6' 4" and still snacks late at night!). Most of
the rest fell somewhere in-between. In the end I managed to pack them all
off to college. Relax, trust yourself, and you and the baby will figure out
this sleep thing eventually.
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