C++终于又火了# Programming - 葵花宝典
e*z
1 楼
快毕业了，打算申请academic position. 写cover letter里contribution的时候有了
这个疑问。觉得用I不合适，因为不是一个人做的。 但是用we的话会不会让别人觉得没
有independent research的能力？恳请过来人解答。
这个疑问。觉得用I不合适，因为不是一个人做的。 但是用we的话会不会让别人觉得没
有independent research的能力？恳请过来人解答。
b*w
2 楼
刚电话上海领事馆的小妹，
要缴费才能预约，两个人两份收据，
电话卡够时间，两个人能约到一个时间段。
护照的期限在签证面谈的当天，要比在美停留的时间至少长6个月。
（如果说B2一律给6个月，那就要一年有效，这个是我推测的）
可以用旧护照预约，戴上新旧护照去签证就行。
要缴费才能预约，两个人两份收据，
电话卡够时间，两个人能约到一个时间段。
护照的期限在签证面谈的当天，要比在美停留的时间至少长6个月。
（如果说B2一律给6个月，那就要一年有效，这个是我推测的）
可以用旧护照预约，戴上新旧护照去签证就行。
i*h
4 楼
可见语言火不火，靠的是挖坑的水平和执着
U*1
5 楼
avoid using I in all times.
d*0
6 楼
是
b*e
7 楼
有一作paper的就用I, co first author就用we，不用担心教授们觉得你太arrogant,大
家都知道你有老板有同事（你文章的co authors). 这个时候谦虚,只会让人怀疑你的贡
献，对你没有信心，怎么可能把offer给你？ 我老板在我practise的时候纠正最多的就
是"I" not "we". 我觉得我整个面试的过程学到的就是敢说"I"-- show your
confidence as an independent investigator and sale yourself, not anyone else
.
【在 e****z 的大作中提到】
: 快毕业了，打算申请academic position. 写cover letter里contribution的时候有了
: 这个疑问。觉得用I不合适，因为不是一个人做的。 但是用we的话会不会让别人觉得没
: 有independent research的能力？恳请过来人解答。
家都知道你有老板有同事（你文章的co authors). 这个时候谦虚,只会让人怀疑你的贡
献，对你没有信心，怎么可能把offer给你？ 我老板在我practise的时候纠正最多的就
是"I" not "we". 我觉得我整个面试的过程学到的就是敢说"I"-- show your
confidence as an independent investigator and sale yourself, not anyone else
.
【在 e****z 的大作中提到】
: 快毕业了，打算申请academic position. 写cover letter里contribution的时候有了
: 这个疑问。觉得用I不合适，因为不是一个人做的。 但是用we的话会不会让别人觉得没
: 有independent research的能力？恳请过来人解答。
r*e
8 楼
要是g2就好了，俺立刻跳一个。
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 是
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 是
U*1
9 楼
If I had interviewed you, I felt that you took advantage of your co-authors
(including your advisor).
For example, if you say: I propose aaaaa. I am wondering whether the idea is yours at all. Sometime, a student was supported by a funded project, which were already founded before the student even came here. How can the student claimed that I proposed aaaa.
In such a case, use we --good.
else
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: 有一作paper的就用I, co first author就用we，不用担心教授们觉得你太arrogant,大
: 家都知道你有老板有同事（你文章的co authors). 这个时候谦虚,只会让人怀疑你的贡
: 献，对你没有信心，怎么可能把offer给你？ 我老板在我practise的时候纠正最多的就
: 是"I" not "we". 我觉得我整个面试的过程学到的就是敢说"I"-- show your
: confidence as an independent investigator and sale yourself, not anyone else
: .
(including your advisor).
For example, if you say: I propose aaaaa. I am wondering whether the idea is yours at all. Sometime, a student was supported by a funded project, which were already founded before the student even came here. How can the student claimed that I proposed aaaa.
In such a case, use we --good.
else
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: 有一作paper的就用I, co first author就用we，不用担心教授们觉得你太arrogant,大
: 家都知道你有老板有同事（你文章的co authors). 这个时候谦虚,只会让人怀疑你的贡
: 献，对你没有信心，怎么可能把offer给你？ 我老板在我practise的时候纠正最多的就
: 是"I" not "we". 我觉得我整个面试的过程学到的就是敢说"I"-- show your
: confidence as an independent investigator and sale yourself, not anyone else
: .
a*d
10 楼
这方面的norm因学科而异。不过据我所知，一般来讲独立作者的时候用 I，合写的文章
用 we。
用 we。
w*n
11 楼
You should definitely use 'I'.
However, you should rephrase your sentences like this:
I proposed ... together with.
My colleagues and I ....
However, you should rephrase your sentences like this:
I proposed ... together with
My colleagues and I ....
b*e
12 楼
If it is your idea, you can say I proposed and did the work. If not, you
just say I did this work if you are the primary researcher and we did other
work together if you all contribute equally. You already rewarded those who
helped you by having them in the papers that you first authored and co-
first authored. And you will do that again when you acknowledge them at the
end of your talk. But now it is the most critical time to show your
competence for the job that hundreds of others are fighting for and you have
only one page of words to convince the reviewers. Making your contribution
clear is way better than just vaguely saying "we". That was my point. So
advice for USATT2011: Do NOT reach a judgment when you do not understand others'
points completely.
There is no such thing that you take advantage of your adviser, given the
fact you have been slaved for a few years and your boss is taking advantage
of you all the time! Isn't that true that in most of case, you cannot use
your phd/postdoc results you worked overnight for to apply for your future
grants unless he/she is nice enough to allow you to? People take it for
granted that you work on the project that your boss proposed even though you
might have conceived most of the ideas...
authors
is yours at all. Sometime, a student was supported by a funded project,
which were already founded before the student even came here. How can the
student claimed that I proposed aaaa.
【在 U*******1 的大作中提到】
: If I had interviewed you, I felt that you took advantage of your co-authors
: (including your advisor).
: For example, if you say: I propose aaaaa. I am wondering whether the idea is yours at all. Sometime, a student was supported by a funded project, which were already founded before the student even came here. How can the student claimed that I proposed aaaa.
: In such a case, use we --good.
:
: else
just say I did this work if you are the primary researcher and we did other
work together if you all contribute equally. You already rewarded those who
helped you by having them in the papers that you first authored and co-
first authored. And you will do that again when you acknowledge them at the
end of your talk. But now it is the most critical time to show your
competence for the job that hundreds of others are fighting for and you have
only one page of words to convince the reviewers. Making your contribution
clear is way better than just vaguely saying "we". That was my point. So
advice for USATT2011: Do NOT reach a judgment when you do not understand others'
points completely.
There is no such thing that you take advantage of your adviser, given the
fact you have been slaved for a few years and your boss is taking advantage
of you all the time! Isn't that true that in most of case, you cannot use
your phd/postdoc results you worked overnight for to apply for your future
grants unless he/she is nice enough to allow you to? People take it for
granted that you work on the project that your boss proposed even though you
might have conceived most of the ideas...
authors
is yours at all. Sometime, a student was supported by a funded project,
which were already founded before the student even came here. How can the
student claimed that I proposed aaaa.
【在 U*******1 的大作中提到】
: If I had interviewed you, I felt that you took advantage of your co-authors
: (including your advisor).
: For example, if you say: I propose aaaaa. I am wondering whether the idea is yours at all. Sometime, a student was supported by a funded project, which were already founded before the student even came here. How can the student claimed that I proposed aaaa.
: In such a case, use we --good.
:
: else
w*n
13 楼
I agree.
In fact, all of my mentors insisted on using 'I' instead of 'we', to stress
personal contribution.
other
who
the
have
contribution
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: If it is your idea, you can say I proposed and did the work. If not, you
: just say I did this work if you are the primary researcher and we did other
: work together if you all contribute equally. You already rewarded those who
: helped you by having them in the papers that you first authored and co-
: first authored. And you will do that again when you acknowledge them at the
: end of your talk. But now it is the most critical time to show your
: competence for the job that hundreds of others are fighting for and you have
: only one page of words to convince the reviewers. Making your contribution
: clear is way better than just vaguely saying "we". That was my point. So
: advice for USATT2011: Do NOT reach a judgment when you do not understand others'
In fact, all of my mentors insisted on using 'I' instead of 'we', to stress
personal contribution.
other
who
the
have
contribution
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: If it is your idea, you can say I proposed and did the work. If not, you
: just say I did this work if you are the primary researcher and we did other
: work together if you all contribute equally. You already rewarded those who
: helped you by having them in the papers that you first authored and co-
: first authored. And you will do that again when you acknowledge them at the
: end of your talk. But now it is the most critical time to show your
: competence for the job that hundreds of others are fighting for and you have
: only one page of words to convince the reviewers. Making your contribution
: clear is way better than just vaguely saying "we". That was my point. So
: advice for USATT2011: Do NOT reach a judgment when you do not understand others'
b*e
14 楼
All my three mentors insisted on that too.
stress
【在 w***n 的大作中提到】
: I agree.
: In fact, all of my mentors insisted on using 'I' instead of 'we', to stress
: personal contribution.
:
: other
: who
: the
: have
: contribution
stress
【在 w***n 的大作中提到】
: I agree.
: In fact, all of my mentors insisted on using 'I' instead of 'we', to stress
: personal contribution.
:
: other
: who
: the
: have
: contribution
e*z
15 楼
Many thanks to all of you for your extremely valuable advice and discussions
. Special thanks go to bluerickie for you vary detailed explanation.
. Special thanks go to bluerickie for you vary detailed explanation.
E*e
16 楼
I use "I" many times in my application materials and I got a tenure-track
assistant professor offer.
assistant professor offer.
b*e
17 楼
I just went through the process and I learned a lot form here. I deeply
felt that a little help at the beginning of the application from other
experienced will go a long way. So I am just returning the favor here.
Good luck!
discussions
【在 e****z 的大作中提到】
: Many thanks to all of you for your extremely valuable advice and discussions
: . Special thanks go to bluerickie for you vary detailed explanation.
felt that a little help at the beginning of the application from other
experienced will go a long way. So I am just returning the favor here.
Good luck!
discussions
【在 e****z 的大作中提到】
: Many thanks to all of you for your extremely valuable advice and discussions
: . Special thanks go to bluerickie for you vary detailed explanation.
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