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a*o2004-01-18 08:01

1 楼

据说Newyoker是美国中产阶级知识分子的favorite.至少在国内的《读书》上还经常有纽
约客怎么怎么说的例子。
所以我也就附庸风雅的定了这封杂志。但是读了一些下来，怎么觉得甚是无趣，包括里面
的fiction也很无趣。
最极端的一个例子是上次一篇很详细，写的很精美而且很长的文章仔细的介绍了一个上层
住宅里的邻里噪声侵扰的纠纷。
可能是我的英文实在太差，无法领会其中的妙义？

s*d2004-01-18 08:01

2 楼

I like the New Yorker mostly for its writing - any individual writer might not
be the best in the world, but a combination of them really makes the magazine
stand out. I also like the general subjects that it covers, often with depth
and with witty twists in brilliant thinking by the authors.
Many people like the magazine's cartoons, which I can enjoy from time to time,
though not frequently. I suppose that one might call them distinct with
calculated dryness, and might be more humourous to peop

【在 a*o 的大作中提到】

: 据说Newyoker是美国中产阶级知识分子的favorite.至少在国内的《读书》上还经常有纽
: 约客怎么怎么说的例子。
: 所以我也就附庸风雅的定了这封杂志。但是读了一些下来，怎么觉得甚是无趣，包括里面
: 的fiction也很无趣。
: 最极端的一个例子是上次一篇很详细，写的很精美而且很长的文章仔细的介绍了一个上层
: 住宅里的邻里噪声侵扰的纠纷。
: 可能是我的英文实在太差，无法领会其中的妙义？

a*o2004-01-18 08:01

3 楼

好，那我就接着看吧。
一定要把他看出点所以然来

not
magazine
time,
in
being
有
里
上

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】

: I like the New Yorker mostly for its writing - any individual writer might not
: be the best in the world, but a combination of them really makes the magazine
: stand out. I also like the general subjects that it covers, often with depth
: and with witty twists in brilliant thinking by the authors.
: Many people like the magazine's cartoons, which I can enjoy from time to time,
: though not frequently. I suppose that one might call them distinct with
: calculated dryness, and might be more humourous to peop

f*k2004-01-18 08:01

4 楼

well, that neighborhood noise article is long time ago le. i guess
that since the range of topics is so wide that not every one is
interested in every article in new yorker. i never read cover to cover.
but some interesting articles do occur very frequently, and very updated.
like the first time i knew about niagra yellow cake case is from new
yorker, but the wide public report about that is at least half year later.
recent article about SUV is fun to read.

【在 a*o 的大作中提到】

: 据说Newyoker是美国中产阶级知识分子的favorite.至少在国内的《读书》上还经常有纽
: 约客怎么怎么说的例子。
: 所以我也就附庸风雅的定了这封杂志。但是读了一些下来，怎么觉得甚是无趣，包括里面
: 的fiction也很无趣。
: 最极端的一个例子是上次一篇很详细，写的很精美而且很长的文章仔细的介绍了一个上层
: 住宅里的邻里噪声侵扰的纠纷。
: 可能是我的英文实在太差，无法领会其中的妙义？

t*a2004-01-18 08:01

5 楼

I collect New Yorker covers and some cartoons. :)

not
magazine
time,
in
being
有
里
上

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】

: I like the New Yorker mostly for its writing - any individual writer might not
: be the best in the world, but a combination of them really makes the magazine
: stand out. I also like the general subjects that it covers, often with depth
: and with witty twists in brilliant thinking by the authors.
: Many people like the magazine's cartoons, which I can enjoy from time to time,
: though not frequently. I suppose that one might call them distinct with
: calculated dryness, and might be more humourous to peop

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

6 楼

Nod, a part of NYer is of local interest only. So folks living on the west
coast are right about skipping reviews of night clubs on Manhattan. (However,
the other day, posts on the Overseas board do remind of that noise disturbance
article...)
I like the longer reports there too, because they strike a good balance
between accurate reporting and readability. As an example, Prof. Louis Menand
contributes to both New Yorker (middle class) and New York Review of Books
(high-brow intellectual) on

【在 f******k 的大作中提到】

: well, that neighborhood noise article is long time ago le. i guess
: that since the range of topics is so wide that not every one is
: interested in every article in new yorker. i never read cover to cover.
: but some interesting articles do occur very frequently, and very updated.
: like the first time i knew about niagra yellow cake case is from new
: yorker, but the wide public report about that is at least half year later.
: recent article about SUV is fun to read.

r*w2004-01-18 08:01

7 楼

我最喜欢上面的fiction
构思和文笔都是一流的
一只记得关于一把小提琴和两个印第安弟兄的故事
我还喜欢看talk of town
最近吧，讲一个老头一定要读完nytimes
把所有的业余时间都用来读
现在终于读到96还是98年了
他平时，就听收音机来补充当前的新闻
如果说到一个story可能是他正在读的东西的follow up
他就不听了，免得破坏悬念
我觉得好可爱~
cartoon我也喜欢~~~
旁的东西，喜欢就看，不喜欢就不看呗
政治什么的,lyndon johnson之类的从来没看过,我太土了

纽
面
层

【在 a*o 的大作中提到】

: 据说Newyoker是美国中产阶级知识分子的favorite.至少在国内的《读书》上还经常有纽
: 约客怎么怎么说的例子。
: 所以我也就附庸风雅的定了这封杂志。但是读了一些下来，怎么觉得甚是无趣，包括里面
: 的fiction也很无趣。
: 最极端的一个例子是上次一篇很详细，写的很精美而且很长的文章仔细的介绍了一个上层
: 住宅里的邻里噪声侵扰的纠纷。
: 可能是我的英文实在太差，无法领会其中的妙义？

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

8 楼

就是给你解个闷，不要当真呀。

【在 a*o 的大作中提到】

: 据说Newyoker是美国中产阶级知识分子的favorite.至少在国内的《读书》上还经常有纽
: 约客怎么怎么说的例子。
: 所以我也就附庸风雅的定了这封杂志。但是读了一些下来，怎么觉得甚是无趣，包括里面
: 的fiction也很无趣。
: 最极端的一个例子是上次一篇很详细，写的很精美而且很长的文章仔细的介绍了一个上层
: 住宅里的邻里噪声侵扰的纠纷。
: 可能是我的英文实在太差，无法领会其中的妙义？

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

9 楼

John Updike is a regular contributor. His fiction is elegant.
The recent article about Bush's Media strategy is in depth. The author
was interviewed in WNYC's Lopate show. Nice talk.
The recent article about SUV is quite informative, :-)

【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】

: I like the New Yorker mostly for its writing - any individual writer might not
: be the best in the world, but a combination of them really makes the magazine
: stand out. I also like the general subjects that it covers, often with depth
: and with witty twists in brilliant thinking by the authors.
: Many people like the magazine's cartoons, which I can enjoy from time to time,
: though not frequently. I suppose that one might call them distinct with
: calculated dryness, and might be more humourous to peop

p*e2004-01-18 08:01

10 楼

NEW YORKER和ECONOMIST是我最喜欢的两本周刊，但问题是总也读不过来 :))
每一期上的影评和talk of the town都很喜欢，ANNALS OF 什么一般也会读，小说倒是很
少看, 事实上我现在基本上不看小说了。WOODY ALLEN时不时在上面写点东西，也蛮好玩
的。每年还会有几期特辑，food, movie, fashion, family, education
etc.，深入informative而且有趣。NEW YORKER这样的杂志我是不打算扔的，舍不得它的
封面和漫画 :))

有
里
上

【在 r*******w 的大作中提到】

: 我最喜欢上面的fiction
: 构思和文笔都是一流的
: 一只记得关于一把小提琴和两个印第安弟兄的故事
: 我还喜欢看talk of town
: 最近吧，讲一个老头一定要读完nytimes
: 把所有的业余时间都用来读
: 现在终于读到96还是98年了
: 他平时，就听收音机来补充当前的新闻
: 如果说到一个story可能是他正在读的东西的follow up
: 他就不听了，免得破坏悬念

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

11 楼

不过近三年来，talk of the town 大有变成反布专栏的气象。

很
玩
的
常
括
个

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】

: NEW YORKER和ECONOMIST是我最喜欢的两本周刊，但问题是总也读不过来 :))
: 每一期上的影评和talk of the town都很喜欢，ANNALS OF 什么一般也会读，小说倒是很
: 少看, 事实上我现在基本上不看小说了。WOODY ALLEN时不时在上面写点东西，也蛮好玩
: 的。每年还会有几期特辑，food, movie, fashion, family, education
: etc.，深入informative而且有趣。NEW YORKER这样的杂志我是不打算扔的，舍不得它的
: 封面和漫画 :))
:
: 有
: 里
: 上

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

12 楼

In the eyes of liberal, Bush is great Satan himself, :-)
Demographically, liberals consist a lot of New Yorker's subscribers.
The Atlantic Monthly is more conservative, central conservative.
When I read the Economist, I can smell the British accent, :-)

【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】

: 不过近三年来，talk of the town 大有变成反布专栏的气象。
:
: 很
: 玩
: 的
: 常
: 括
: 个

r*w2004-01-18 08:01

13 楼

annals我好像很少读;)
personal history我肯定读！

很
玩
的
常
括
个

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】

: NEW YORKER和ECONOMIST是我最喜欢的两本周刊，但问题是总也读不过来 :))
: 每一期上的影评和talk of the town都很喜欢，ANNALS OF 什么一般也会读，小说倒是很
: 少看, 事实上我现在基本上不看小说了。WOODY ALLEN时不时在上面写点东西，也蛮好玩
: 的。每年还会有几期特辑，food, movie, fashion, family, education
: etc.，深入informative而且有趣。NEW YORKER这样的杂志我是不打算扔的，舍不得它的
: 封面和漫画 :))
:
: 有
: 里
: 上

p*e2004-01-18 08:01

14 楼

New Yorker has some of the best comtemporary writers/thinkers in English, such
as John Updike and Susan Sontag.
As to Cartoon, some of their cartoonists are true wits but some are boring.
btw,I think googles sometimes has very nice cartoons too. Look at the "google"
logo today, I think it looks so nice and funny.

depth
your
常
括
个

【在 t*a 的大作中提到】

: I collect New Yorker covers and some cartoons. :)
:
: not
: magazine
: time,
: in
: being
: 有
: 里
: 上

t*a2004-01-18 08:01

15 楼

such
Some of its debut writers are very good too. What do you think
of 'Extra' by Yiyun Li on the Dec 22/29 double issue?
Dry wit? :-)
"google"
might
up
can
经
包
一

【在 p******e 的大作中提到】

: New Yorker has some of the best comtemporary writers/thinkers in English, such
: as John Updike and Susan Sontag.
: As to Cartoon, some of their cartoonists are true wits but some are boring.
: btw,I think googles sometimes has very nice cartoons too. Look at the "google"
: logo today, I think it looks so nice and funny.
:
: depth
: your
: 常
: 括

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

16 楼

Although the background IMHO IMHO kind of bleak, the flow of the story is
pretty good. The author's mastery of the language (persumably a non-native
speaker) is at least comparable to that of a professional translator.
boring.
to
with
grown
and
还

【在 t*a 的大作中提到】

:
: such
: Some of its debut writers are very good too. What do you think
: of 'Extra' by Yiyun Li on the Dec 22/29 double issue?
: Dry wit? :-)
: "google"
: might
: up
: can
: 经

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

17 楼

Chinese cliche, but novelty for Americans. haha.
Sex-deprived old woman and small kid, suspect pedophile, hehe.

【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】

:
: Although the background IMHO IMHO kind of bleak, the flow of the story is
: pretty good. The author's mastery of the language (persumably a non-native
: speaker) is at least comparable to that of a professional translator.
: boring.
: to
: with
: grown
: and
: 还

t*a2004-01-18 08:01

18 楼

English,
Most stories about China are bleak.
I happen to know the author, which is why I am interested in knowing how
people feel about her writing. BTW, she started writing in English in
1998.
with
time

【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】

:
: Although the background IMHO IMHO kind of bleak, the flow of the story is
: pretty good. The author's mastery of the language (persumably a non-native
: speaker) is at least comparable to that of a professional translator.
: boring.
: to
: with
: grown
: and
: 还

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

19 楼

FT, if sex, love and affection appear the same to you, it's goona be big
trouble...

non-native

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: Chinese cliche, but novelty for Americans. haha.
: Sex-deprived old woman and small kid, suspect pedophile, hehe.

q*n2004-01-18 08:01

20 楼

Tea, could you tell us something about her background?
Like what kind of trainning or experiences she had? Major in english
literauture?
I quite admire her mastery of language and wonder what it takes to be as good
as she is.
Thanks a lot.

or2004-01-18 08:01

21 楼

is there any e version? i'll check this piece anyway.

boring.
to
with
grown
and
还

【在 t*a 的大作中提到】

:
: English,
: Most stories about China are bleak.
: I happen to know the author, which is why I am interested in knowing how
: people feel about her writing. BTW, she started writing in English in
: 1998.
: with
: time

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

22 楼

I am a big boor, and churl, and shallow, :-)

【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】

: FT, if sex, love and affection appear the same to you, it's goona be big
: trouble...
:
: non-native

p*e2004-01-18 08:01

23 楼

I remember once when I checked out an undergraduate thesis on the novel "room
with a view" at th English edpartment of PKU. The writer's English has a
graceful poetic flow and beautiful rythm. The English is only better than
many of the literature papers written by native English speakers I have read
later on. Her supervisor thought it was amazing too and gave her 90+ points. I
was so impressed but I forgot her name now. I always wonder how was she after
graduation with her talent.
I didn't rea

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】

: Tea, could you tell us something about her background?
: Like what kind of trainning or experiences she had? Major in english
: literauture?
: I quite admire her mastery of language and wonder what it takes to be as good
: as she is.
: Thanks a lot.

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

24 楼

Agree with you on the conclusion that an academic training is not the decisive
factor.
First, there is the imitation (I do not mean this undergraduate is cheating in
any way). When writing a thesis on EM Foster, just reading his works and
relevant studies will make you compose in a finer style than you naturally do,
without your being conscious of it.
That works for certain things like scientific papers, but not creative
writing. The goal there is finding a suitable voice, not necessarily a
be

【在 p******e 的大作中提到】

: I remember once when I checked out an undergraduate thesis on the novel "room
: with a view" at th English edpartment of PKU. The writer's English has a
: graceful poetic flow and beautiful rythm. The English is only better than
: many of the literature papers written by native English speakers I have read
: later on. Her supervisor thought it was amazing too and gave her 90+ points. I
: was so impressed but I forgot her name now. I always wonder how was she after
: graduation with her talent.
: I didn't rea

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

25 楼

It is actaully good to read Chinese stories in English, much more exotic,
bizaar, and oritental than read Chinese.
Several Gao Xingjian's stories were carried in the magazine, makes good
reading.
Gibbon actually prefer write in French, :-)
Nabokov writes in English, but he is Russian.

or2004-01-18 08:01

26 楼

i hate to read chinese stories in english, or english stories in chinese,
unless there's no other choice or to taste the difference out of curiosity.

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: It is actaully good to read Chinese stories in English, much more exotic,
: bizaar, and oritental than read Chinese.
: Several Gao Xingjian's stories were carried in the magazine, makes good
: reading.
: Gibbon actually prefer write in French, :-)
: Nabokov writes in English, but he is Russian.

i*e2004-01-18 08:01

27 楼

居然还有中国人为了"exotic,bizzar,and oriental"而故意去念英译的中文。强！

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: It is actaully good to read Chinese stories in English, much more exotic,
: bizaar, and oritental than read Chinese.
: Several Gao Xingjian's stories were carried in the magazine, makes good
: reading.
: Gibbon actually prefer write in French, :-)
: Nabokov writes in English, but he is Russian.

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

28 楼

Curiosity is the word. If you read those stories in chinese, you never
think about it. However, when you read them in English, some common
things began to have new connotations. That's where the fun is.

【在 or 的大作中提到】

: i hate to read chinese stories in english, or english stories in chinese,
: unless there's no other choice or to taste the difference out of curiosity.

p*e2004-01-18 08:01

29 楼

Gao xingjian's Chinese novels are just so-so. He hasn't been quite crafted as
many masters and peer novelists are. Reading them in English makes them much
better.

curiosity.
exotic,

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: Curiosity is the word. If you read those stories in chinese, you never
: think about it. However, when you read them in English, some common
: things began to have new connotations. That's where the fun is.

b*y2004-01-18 08:01

30 楼

我的感觉是，英文作品是非常讲究语言本身的美的。而当代中国作品对语言似乎没有什么
追求，只是作为传递故事，意向的工具。日常生活更有粗暴对待语言的倾向，譬如bbs中
文的别字，疯狂暴戾，却被奉为时尚。。。

as
much
chinese,
good

【在 p******e 的大作中提到】

: Gao xingjian's Chinese novels are just so-so. He hasn't been quite crafted as
: many masters and peer novelists are. Reading them in English makes them much
: better.
:
: curiosity.
: exotic,

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

31 楼

Orthography is very important for educated English speakers, however,
it seems not the case for Chinese speakers.
English has a large vocabulary, enables a huge gamut of
subtleties in choosing the right word. Choosing the right word requires
knowledge and education, for example, slander and libel, the difference
enable the user to understand some legal concept. Without some history
knowledge, you cannot use "pirates", "corsair", "privateer", and
"bucaneer" correctly. Without the knowledge of ge

【在 b******y 的大作中提到】

: 我的感觉是，英文作品是非常讲究语言本身的美的。而当代中国作品对语言似乎没有什么
: 追求，只是作为传递故事，意向的工具。日常生活更有粗暴对待语言的倾向，譬如bbs中
: 文的别字，疯狂暴戾，却被奉为时尚。。。
:
: as
: much
: chinese,
: good

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

32 楼

Maybe the cause is deep:
English is mastered by bourgeoisie, burghers, professionals. Modern
vernacular Chinese is mostly used by proletarians, :-)
Of course, classical Chinese is elegant and eloquent, much less harsh
than the vernacular counterpart. In a nutshell, noble.

【在 b******y 的大作中提到】

: 我的感觉是，英文作品是非常讲究语言本身的美的。而当代中国作品对语言似乎没有什么
: 追求，只是作为传递故事，意向的工具。日常生活更有粗暴对待语言的倾向，譬如bbs中
: 文的别字，疯狂暴戾，却被奉为时尚。。。
:
: as
: much
: chinese,
: good

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

33 楼

Victorian English, maybe, but hardly the contemporary American English. Also
I don't see any reason why a language cannot be venacular and subtle and
expressive at the same time -- think of Yiddish.
IMHO the problem with modern Chinese is rooted in the recent decades of
intentional abuse for ideological purposes. Granted, a few English words did
get abused during the cold war. In comparison, very few words in Chinese
escaped politics all together during the 2nd half of 20th century.

什么
日常生活

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: Maybe the cause is deep:
: English is mastered by bourgeoisie, burghers, professionals. Modern
: vernacular Chinese is mostly used by proletarians, :-)
: Of course, classical Chinese is elegant and eloquent, much less harsh
: than the vernacular counterpart. In a nutshell, noble.

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

34 楼

For modern Amercan English, we have "New Yorker", "New York Times",
"The Atlantic" and the like to set a standard for educated speakers.
For vernacular Chinese, who set the standard? "People's Daily"?
The much-respected "Du Shu", abused Chinese to the extreme.
Much of those Chinese vernacular "classics" writers can hardly worth
their salt. They are more of revolutionaries than contenders of
Ciceros.

【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】

: Victorian English, maybe, but hardly the contemporary American English. Also
: I don't see any reason why a language cannot be venacular and subtle and
: expressive at the same time -- think of Yiddish.
: IMHO the problem with modern Chinese is rooted in the recent decades of
: intentional abuse for ideological purposes. Granted, a few English words did
: get abused during the cold war. In comparison, very few words in Chinese
: escaped politics all together during the 2nd half of 20th century.
:
: 什么
: 日常生活

b*y2004-01-18 08:01

35 楼

说到中文，据说有十万单字，可常用字也就几千，大家满足于用常用字搭配造辞，多少字
已经死去了。没人爱护，没人发展，中文也就越来越粗鄙,文化越来越低俗，人与人之间
越来越粗暴。。。

什么
日常生活更有粗暴对待语言的倾向，譬如bbs中
crafted

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: Maybe the cause is deep:
: English is mastered by bourgeoisie, burghers, professionals. Modern
: vernacular Chinese is mostly used by proletarians, :-)
: Of course, classical Chinese is elegant and eloquent, much less harsh
: than the vernacular counterpart. In a nutshell, noble.

t*n2004-01-18 08:01

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I agree that the usage of vernacular Chinese is awful today, at least in the
first two of three kinds of application below:
(1) Scholastic English versus Scholastic Chinese, e.g. high-brow intellectual
journals, on elegance and subtlety. (At this level, Du Shu compares itself to
the New York Review of Books, not the lowly New Yorker. That really, really
made me puke.)
(2) Standard English versus Standard Chinese (e.g. regular newspaper) on the
ability to tell thing clearly.
(3) Colloquial Engl

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: For modern Amercan English, we have "New Yorker", "New York Times",
: "The Atlantic" and the like to set a standard for educated speakers.
: For vernacular Chinese, who set the standard? "People's Daily"?
: The much-respected "Du Shu", abused Chinese to the extreme.
: Much of those Chinese vernacular "classics" writers can hardly worth
: their salt. They are more of revolutionaries than contenders of
: Ciceros.

b*s2004-01-18 08:01

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Some digression (digression is the nature of forums, :-)
First, I agree with you that a language by itself is only a set of rules and
symbols. The life of a language depends on its users.
Users:
Chinese intelligentsia currently is much more inferior comparing to their WASP
counterpart, thanks to the systematic decimation by the proletariat
dictatorship and the recent brain drains.
China doesn't enjoy a good number of "amateur literati", e.g. lawyers, judges,
medical doctors (who are the backbone

【在 t*******n 的大作中提到】

: I agree that the usage of vernacular Chinese is awful today, at least in the
: first two of three kinds of application below:
: (1) Scholastic English versus Scholastic Chinese, e.g. high-brow intellectual
: journals, on elegance and subtlety. (At this level, Du Shu compares itself to
: the New York Review of Books, not the lowly New Yorker. That really, really
: made me puke.)
: (2) Standard English versus Standard Chinese (e.g. regular newspaper) on the
: ability to tell thing clearly.
: (3) Colloquial Engl

d*o2004-01-18 08:01

38 楼

The complete Chinese vocab is huge and very subtle.
Sadly the vocab most people possess is just a tiny little part.
And the different combinations contribute to the subtlety too.
This is easier to pursue but still demanding.

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】

: Orthography is very important for educated English speakers, however,
: it seems not the case for Chinese speakers.
: English has a large vocabulary, enables a huge gamut of
: subtleties in choosing the right word. Choosing the right word requires
: knowledge and education, for example, slander and libel, the difference
: enable the user to understand some legal concept. Without some history
: knowledge, you cannot use "pirates", "corsair", "privateer", and
: "bucaneer" correctly. Without the knowledge of ge

c*u2004-01-18 08:01

39 楼

中产阶级是附庸风雅的代名词而已. hehehe. 也就是比上不足, 比下有余.
真要看激动人心的文学,艺术, 大概很难从中产阶级喜欢的
杂志里看到吧.

【在 a*o 的大作中提到】

: 好，那我就接着看吧。
: 一定要把他看出点所以然来
:
: not
: magazine
: time,
: in
: being
: 有
: 里

m*n2004-01-18 08:01

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nEWYOKER就是一本小资读物，有趣却不深刻
正如你提到的影评，真是很烂
它比较好的就是小说和诗歌那一栏
其他的，感觉比atlantic monthly和harpers都差一截
国内书城现在弄的就跟纽约客似的，反感逐渐加深

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】

: NEW YORKER和ECONOMIST是我最喜欢的两本周刊，但问题是总也读不过来 :))
: 每一期上的影评和talk of the town都很喜欢，ANNALS OF 什么一般也会读，小说倒是很
: 少看, 事实上我现在基本上不看小说了。WOODY ALLEN时不时在上面写点东西，也蛮好玩
: 的。每年还会有几期特辑，food, movie, fashion, family, education
: etc.，深入informative而且有趣。NEW YORKER这样的杂志我是不打算扔的，舍不得它的
: 封面和漫画 :))
:
: 有
: 里
: 上

k*k2004-01-18 08:01

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haha, atlantic monthly自然是要好一些，不过文艺类的东西
标准不硬，个人的喜好都不同嘛

【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】

: nEWYOKER就是一本小资读物，有趣却不深刻
: 正如你提到的影评，真是很烂
: 它比较好的就是小说和诗歌那一栏
: 其他的，感觉比atlantic monthly和harpers都差一截
: 国内书城现在弄的就跟纽约客似的，反感逐渐加深