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1. A story you have seen.
习近平的家人为什么都生活在国外？
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据国内媒体报道：习近平的姐姐是加拿大人,弟弟是澳大利亚人，而女儿即将成为
美国人。 习近平前妻柯玲玲，是中国外交官柯华小女儿，结婚三年后离婚，两人没有
孩子。柯玲玲现居于英国。妻子彭丽媛是着名军旅女高音歌唱家，现任解放军总政治部
歌舞团团长。1986年底经赖昌星朋友介绍与习近平相识，1987年9月1日两人在厦门结婚
。女儿习明泽，生于1992年，曾经在杭州外国语学校读书，2008年汶川大地震时以志愿
者的身份前往四川绵竹的汉旺东汽小学，参与抢救伤者、心理辅导的工作。同年保送浙
江大学，2009年7月，习明泽进入浙江大学外国语学院，2010年5月前往美国哈佛大学读
本科。姐姐齐桥桥（习桥桥）为北京中民信房地产开发有限公司董事长，姐夫邓家贵为
远为房地产开发有限公司法人代表。他们目前已获加拿大籍。
这份习近平家人的路线图并不全面，还有更多亲戚朋友生活在美国、加拿大与澳
大利亚，但仅仅从这个可以看出，他的很多近亲与家人都生活在海外，据中办一位老同
志透露，这和习近平无关，他们兄弟姐妹平时来往不多，他们也从来没有沾习近平的光
，都是靠自己的实力与人脉。他们在国内有这么好的条件，为什么都纷纷出国？而且有
些已经拿了国外护照？
这位老同志透露了一段秘密，原来这事与习近平的父亲习仲勋有关，习仲勋在毛时
代被折磨得神经失常是假，其实他一直很清醒，装疯卖傻只是为了保护自己的家人不受
株连。习仲勋后来被平反后，被委以重任，而他主管广东，和广东华人华侨接触比较多
，从他们那里才真正了解到西方的真实生活，尤其是政治状态与政治制度，这是习仲勋
政治思想转变的关键。从那时起他就要求子女们有机会的时候都“远走高飞”，他说，
报效祖国也可以到国外去，但留在国内，说不定就会某一天受到政治迫害，更不用说报
效祖国了。但他要求子女中留一个搞政治的，而且希望是那个最淳朴没有心机的习近平
，他说，在中国这种政治下，别以为有心机就能够成功，张春桥、江青有心机吧，灭亡
得更快。习仲勋自己一直对当局与毛泽东直言不讳，在政治上从来不参与迫害人，表现
得毫无心机，虽然受到了迫害，但属于最终笑到最后的人。
习仲勋要求子女远离中国，符合他的思想。子女在他的影响下，一有机会就出国了
，唯独习近平留在了国内，但可能是受父亲影响，习近平也把独生女儿送到哈佛大学读
书。据哈佛大学一位叫david的老师向博讯记者透露，习近平的女儿有中国大陆派来的
保镖24小时保护，美国联邦调查局最近也加派人手暗中保护她。一般来说在校学生无法
申请绿卡，但习近平女儿已经有美国的长期驻留签证，而且随时可以申请加入美国国籍
。习近平女儿的成绩不错，空闲时也上网阅读中文网页，业余爱好是时装与阅读。
2. A tragedy cycle chinese never resolved.
A figure of population can be found here : http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/8579/chinapop5bo.gif
China's population has been between 15-60M most of the time in history,
until late Ming dynasty. Whenever there is a war, the population decreases
significantly, but peak population has seldomly passed 60M for the 2000
years before late Ming. Below is a chart (source), please remember the
following caveats when reading it
The statistics are mostly done when war is over or during peace, so a few
deep trough (during wars) may be missing in this chart, when there were no
stats available. The dynasty beginning number is indicative of the damage of
the war preceding the change in dynasty
Lost of populations in war include war dead, famine, migration of people and
hiding (in mountains - esp in beginning of Qing)
Major civil war causes change of dynasty, and population decrease of 1/2 to
2/3. However, the numbers in the beginning of a dynasty is often under-
stated as people were moving around and the stats were incomplete (so the
real impact might not be as bad)
Since there were small changes in geographic boundary, the population stats
were not entirely comparable (but it is probably 80-90% correct)
Because Chinese dynasties tax on land size, headcount and household numbers,
it is likely that the total populations are understated due to tax evasion
(some scholar estimated that popluation reached 100m around late Song, so
official stats could be 30-40% below real figures)
A major trick of concealing population is not include serf and slave. Yuan's
real population is above the same as South Song/Jin. However, Yuan's
numbers were relatively more accurate because it cracked down on cheating of
the rich people
There was an estimate for Xia (2000-3000BC) population of 13.35M
After 1700,
Official population passed 100M around 1720, 200M in 1764, 300M around 1790,
400M around 1834, due mainly to higher food yield, with introduction of new
world plants such as corn, potatos, etc.
Virtually no growth between 1840 to 1900, when western powers invaded China
and Taiping Rebellion took away 20-30M lives
From 1900-1947 the growth was slow, from 430M to 460M, with a peak of 470M
around 1928 when civil war lessened but then the Japanese invasion took 20-
30M lives
3. We are near another tragedy point in destiny.
习近平的家人为什么都生活在国外？
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明镜网 2011-10-24 09:48:59
据国内媒体报道：习近平的姐姐是加拿大人,弟弟是澳大利亚人，而女儿即将成为
美国人。 习近平前妻柯玲玲，是中国外交官柯华小女儿，结婚三年后离婚，两人没有
孩子。柯玲玲现居于英国。妻子彭丽媛是着名军旅女高音歌唱家，现任解放军总政治部
歌舞团团长。1986年底经赖昌星朋友介绍与习近平相识，1987年9月1日两人在厦门结婚
。女儿习明泽，生于1992年，曾经在杭州外国语学校读书，2008年汶川大地震时以志愿
者的身份前往四川绵竹的汉旺东汽小学，参与抢救伤者、心理辅导的工作。同年保送浙
江大学，2009年7月，习明泽进入浙江大学外国语学院，2010年5月前往美国哈佛大学读
本科。姐姐齐桥桥（习桥桥）为北京中民信房地产开发有限公司董事长，姐夫邓家贵为
远为房地产开发有限公司法人代表。他们目前已获加拿大籍。
这份习近平家人的路线图并不全面，还有更多亲戚朋友生活在美国、加拿大与澳
大利亚，但仅仅从这个可以看出，他的很多近亲与家人都生活在海外，据中办一位老同
志透露，这和习近平无关，他们兄弟姐妹平时来往不多，他们也从来没有沾习近平的光
，都是靠自己的实力与人脉。他们在国内有这么好的条件，为什么都纷纷出国？而且有
些已经拿了国外护照？
这位老同志透露了一段秘密，原来这事与习近平的父亲习仲勋有关，习仲勋在毛时
代被折磨得神经失常是假，其实他一直很清醒，装疯卖傻只是为了保护自己的家人不受
株连。习仲勋后来被平反后，被委以重任，而他主管广东，和广东华人华侨接触比较多
，从他们那里才真正了解到西方的真实生活，尤其是政治状态与政治制度，这是习仲勋
政治思想转变的关键。从那时起他就要求子女们有机会的时候都“远走高飞”，他说，
报效祖国也可以到国外去，但留在国内，说不定就会某一天受到政治迫害，更不用说报
效祖国了。但他要求子女中留一个搞政治的，而且希望是那个最淳朴没有心机的习近平
，他说，在中国这种政治下，别以为有心机就能够成功，张春桥、江青有心机吧，灭亡
得更快。习仲勋自己一直对当局与毛泽东直言不讳，在政治上从来不参与迫害人，表现
得毫无心机，虽然受到了迫害，但属于最终笑到最后的人。
习仲勋要求子女远离中国，符合他的思想。子女在他的影响下，一有机会就出国了
，唯独习近平留在了国内，但可能是受父亲影响，习近平也把独生女儿送到哈佛大学读
书。据哈佛大学一位叫david的老师向博讯记者透露，习近平的女儿有中国大陆派来的
保镖24小时保护，美国联邦调查局最近也加派人手暗中保护她。一般来说在校学生无法
申请绿卡，但习近平女儿已经有美国的长期驻留签证，而且随时可以申请加入美国国籍
。习近平女儿的成绩不错，空闲时也上网阅读中文网页，业余爱好是时装与阅读。
2. A tragedy cycle chinese never resolved.
A figure of population can be found here : http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/8579/chinapop5bo.gif
China's population has been between 15-60M most of the time in history,
until late Ming dynasty. Whenever there is a war, the population decreases
significantly, but peak population has seldomly passed 60M for the 2000
years before late Ming. Below is a chart (source), please remember the
following caveats when reading it
The statistics are mostly done when war is over or during peace, so a few
deep trough (during wars) may be missing in this chart, when there were no
stats available. The dynasty beginning number is indicative of the damage of
the war preceding the change in dynasty
Lost of populations in war include war dead, famine, migration of people and
hiding (in mountains - esp in beginning of Qing)
Major civil war causes change of dynasty, and population decrease of 1/2 to
2/3. However, the numbers in the beginning of a dynasty is often under-
stated as people were moving around and the stats were incomplete (so the
real impact might not be as bad)
Since there were small changes in geographic boundary, the population stats
were not entirely comparable (but it is probably 80-90% correct)
Because Chinese dynasties tax on land size, headcount and household numbers,
it is likely that the total populations are understated due to tax evasion
(some scholar estimated that popluation reached 100m around late Song, so
official stats could be 30-40% below real figures)
A major trick of concealing population is not include serf and slave. Yuan's
real population is above the same as South Song/Jin. However, Yuan's
numbers were relatively more accurate because it cracked down on cheating of
the rich people
There was an estimate for Xia (2000-3000BC) population of 13.35M
After 1700,
Official population passed 100M around 1720, 200M in 1764, 300M around 1790,
400M around 1834, due mainly to higher food yield, with introduction of new
world plants such as corn, potatos, etc.
Virtually no growth between 1840 to 1900, when western powers invaded China
and Taiping Rebellion took away 20-30M lives
From 1900-1947 the growth was slow, from 430M to 460M, with a peak of 470M
around 1928 when civil war lessened but then the Japanese invasion took 20-
30M lives
3. We are near another tragedy point in destiny.