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有没有人觉得thesis太烂没脸去答辩的?# Biology - 生物学
y*e
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自己的一个submission前几天得到回应,是个borderline case...
不知道rubuttal写了能有多大的回旋空间~~
哎,好郁闷那~~
PC里面中国人多点就好了……
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w*4
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rt
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k*n
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因为各种各样的原因(老板误导,做的课题跟实验室没关系,个人的懒,笨),thesis
做得很肤浅,可
以发两篇小烂肤浅paper,没有molecular东西。现在在写thesis,人不在学校,老板要
我写信去
convince thesis committee我可以毕业,我心说我自己都不能convince我自己,还怎么
convince别人?很多人跟我说他们毕业也没啥东西,还有人defense一半的slides是致
谢,
doesn't really make me feel better. 有人有这种经历么?谢谢!
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f*h
4
从来没成功过。

【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: 自己的一个submission前几天得到回应,是个borderline case...
: 不知道rubuttal写了能有多大的回旋空间~~
: 哎,好郁闷那~~
: PC里面中国人多点就好了……

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w*4
5
看着有些白色的东西在叶子背面和花苞上,还有红蚂蚁。要不要喷药啊,同志们帮帮我
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b*j
6
as long as you can convince your thesis committee and defense committee to
let you pass, you are fine.
however the problem is whether you have received good training, are able to
be independent in your research later on at your postdoc, and know what to
do for postdoc as well. These are more important things you need to worry.
my two cents.

thesis
怎么

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 因为各种各样的原因(老板误导,做的课题跟实验室没关系,个人的懒,笨),thesis
: 做得很肤浅,可
: 以发两篇小烂肤浅paper,没有molecular东西。现在在写thesis,人不在学校,老板要
: 我写信去
: convince thesis committee我可以毕业,我心说我自己都不能convince我自己,还怎么
: convince别人?很多人跟我说他们毕业也没啥东西,还有人defense一半的slides是致
: 谢,
: doesn't really make me feel better. 有人有这种经历么?谢谢!

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m*e
7
成功过一次,又恢复了审稿,两年后,又两轮修改,发了。

【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: 自己的一个submission前几天得到回应,是个borderline case...
: 不知道rubuttal写了能有多大的回旋空间~~
: 哎,好郁闷那~~
: PC里面中国人多点就好了……

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g*e
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黑的是蚂蚁? 更小的像蚜虫. 精华区里病虫害目录有自制杀虫剂的方子, 很多可以对付
蚜虫.

【在 w*****4 的大作中提到】
: rt
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s*s
9
一般不fail, committee实在不爽了就是让你补点东西。

thesis
怎么

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 因为各种各样的原因(老板误导,做的课题跟实验室没关系,个人的懒,笨),thesis
: 做得很肤浅,可
: 以发两篇小烂肤浅paper,没有molecular东西。现在在写thesis,人不在学校,老板要
: 我写信去
: convince thesis committee我可以毕业,我心说我自己都不能convince我自己,还怎么
: convince别人?很多人跟我说他们毕业也没啥东西,还有人defense一半的slides是致
: 谢,
: doesn't really make me feel better. 有人有这种经历么?谢谢!

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l*1
10
how many rebuttals did you have?
one out of how many rebuttals?

【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: 成功过一次,又恢复了审稿,两年后,又两轮修改,发了。
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x*n
11
白的是蚜虫了,很常见的,上杀虫剂
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k*n
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that's my problem, very hard to convince myself, coz 我觉得somhow有点儿对不起
自己的良心,汗。
关于postdoc,不准备做postdoc,准备(其实已经)转行了,就是因为觉得自己达不到你
说的标
准..........

to
to
to
worry.

【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: as long as you can convince your thesis committee and defense committee to
: let you pass, you are fine.
: however the problem is whether you have received good training, are able to
: be independent in your research later on at your postdoc, and know what to
: do for postdoc as well. These are more important things you need to worry.
: my two cents.
:
: thesis
: 怎么

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m*e
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不拽你难受啊,还one out of how many? 不会说中文? 您这E文也惨点儿吧。
谁教你说话愣成这样的? 你当你自己谁呀? 让人刺惯了也不用上这来显,不会好好说话
就一边凉快去。大人说话你个小东西搭什么茬。
教你个怪,一次rebuttal, 运气好,成了。你那算概率的小心眼就收了吧。

【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: how many rebuttals did you have?
: one out of how many rebuttals?

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T*4
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现在还有栀子花,很不错啊,赶快干掉虫子
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f*n
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能够毕业,其实是福气.
以后的事以后再说吧.不毕业在烂实验室也不能受到好的训练,还不如早点毕业.
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l*m
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脾气真火爆!!!!
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w*4
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谢谢刚刚大哥,我瞅瞅去

【在 g***e 的大作中提到】
: 黑的是蚂蚁? 更小的像蚜虫. 精华区里病虫害目录有自制杀虫剂的方子, 很多可以对付
: 蚜虫.

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k*n
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问题是要是committee不让毕业呢?没有这个可能么?那我岂不是丢人丢尽了还没
用..................

【在 f********n 的大作中提到】
: 能够毕业,其实是福气.
: 以后的事以后再说吧.不毕业在烂实验室也不能受到好的训练,还不如早点毕业.

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l*1
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I think mdmjoe - you have a mental problem.
when I got my tenure, you were not even a phd student yet.
so you must respect senior faculty members here, OK?
son, let me teach you a lesson before you go to wild forest out there, OK?

【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: 不拽你难受啊,还one out of how many? 不会说中文? 您这E文也惨点儿吧。
: 谁教你说话愣成这样的? 你当你自己谁呀? 让人刺惯了也不用上这来显,不会好好说话
: 就一边凉快去。大人说话你个小东西搭什么茬。
: 教你个怪,一次rebuttal, 运气好,成了。你那算概率的小心眼就收了吧。

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w*4
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谢谢哦,我还以为这种花不长虫子呢

【在 x******n 的大作中提到】
: 白的是蚜虫了,很常见的,上杀虫剂
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p*d
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我觉得一般老板让毕业就一定能毕业啊,最多拖一拖,加点东西。
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m*e
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i think lot1, you have a brain program, when i was a phd student, u were
still working in a restaurant. so I must respect senior waiters here, my bad
, OK.
ur brain suffered serious structural improvements when they smuggled
you here. u can even speak some primitive language now. i am really proud of
u. that tenure from one of the best takeout only restaurants, named 菊花开
落知多少楼,must be quite an achievement for you.

【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: I think mdmjoe - you have a mental problem.
: when I got my tenure, you were not even a phd student yet.
: so you must respect senior faculty members here, OK?
: son, let me teach you a lesson before you go to wild forest out there, OK?

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w*4
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盆里种的,呵呵,目前为止,只开过一次花,希望剩下的花苞最后都能开~

【在 T*******4 的大作中提到】
: 现在还有栀子花,很不错啊,赶快干掉虫子
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M*n
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没事儿,脸上多涂蜡,脸皮厚点就可以。
俺的thesis就很烂,三篇不入流的小paper.
但是能毕业才是关键。所以厚着脸皮也得上。
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j*e
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mdmjoe, your english is extremely bad and broken.
get out of here, will you?
shame on you.

bad
of

【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: i think lot1, you have a brain program, when i was a phd student, u were
: still working in a restaurant. so I must respect senior waiters here, my bad
: , OK.
: ur brain suffered serious structural improvements when they smuggled
: you here. u can even speak some primitive language now. i am really proud of
: u. that tenure from one of the best takeout only restaurants, named 菊花开
: 落知多少楼,must be quite an achievement for you.

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w*4
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是啊,确切的说不是黑色的小蚂蚁,是红蚂蚁,长度大约三分之二键盘键的大小,这个
也要杀杀吧?

【在 g***e 的大作中提到】
: 黑的是蚂蚁? 更小的像蚜虫. 精华区里病虫害目录有自制杀虫剂的方子, 很多可以对付
: 蚜虫.

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l*s
27

It is possible if someone on your committee is serious about science.

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 问题是要是committee不让毕业呢?没有这个可能么?那我岂不是丢人丢尽了还没
: 用..................

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m*e
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oh, yeah, broken and bad, is that all you got? u are such a joke. what kind
of fagots name itself 教师哥哥。 if u have any balls, do not put on an 马甲
and show off your bipolar issue. Go enjoy your homosexual life and stop
ruining every board here, homos belong to your own shit sucking cave. right,
maybe you and lot1 have a lot in common, gross.

【在 j**********e 的大作中提到】
: mdmjoe, your english is extremely bad and broken.
: get out of here, will you?
: shame on you.
:
: bad
: of

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x*n
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蚜虫死了估计就没蚂蚁了,蚂蚁那水冲冲就可以了

【在 w*****4 的大作中提到】
: 是啊,确切的说不是黑色的小蚂蚁,是红蚂蚁,长度大约三分之二键盘键的大小,这个
: 也要杀杀吧?

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k*n
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看来没办法只能硬着头皮上了............ 我现在在外州,要加东西也没法加,烦...
..........谢谢大家!!祝新年快乐,比我快乐 T_T
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j*e
31
your english is broken.
烂校烂专业经济系的货,没有资格跟我说话。等你进了ivy league, 再跟我说英语,
OK?

kind

right,

【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: oh, yeah, broken and bad, is that all you got? u are such a joke. what kind
: of fagots name itself 教师哥哥。 if u have any balls, do not put on an 马甲
: and show off your bipolar issue. Go enjoy your homosexual life and stop
: ruining every board here, homos belong to your own shit sucking cave. right,
: maybe you and lot1 have a lot in common, gross.

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w*4
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哦,那就好了,俺可以去吃午饭了:)

【在 x******n 的大作中提到】
: 蚜虫死了估计就没蚂蚁了,蚂蚁那水冲冲就可以了
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d*s
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能早毕业最好了,这个应该不是大问题吧
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m*e
34
hey, i was not even talking to you? Do not flatter yourself.
Please, are u even a faculty somewhere? Broken, ok, ok, broken, man, are
you actually trying to atrack me or mocking lot 1 and yourself ? now u made
yourself a joke. Go find a room and do your s**ty business there?
ivy? i am not sure you have ever been to an ivy i attended.Yours has to be
one of the most prestigious fagot schools, is your adviser Dr. she-male?
Wow, you really scared me, you are so up there, i cannot even look at u.
Jesus, what a brassy snob u are. Economics? your whole family is economics.
How weak is your research capability? Are u sure Dr she-male taught u
anything?
don't u think showing off schooling background is so immature? one piece of
advice for u, that is a looser. your school takes pride of what u do, not
your being there.
lot1, if you are a she, i apologize. i take everything back. otherwise, this
哥哥 of yours stinks. it ain't got no braincells.

【在 j**********e 的大作中提到】
: your english is broken.
: 烂校烂专业经济系的货,没有资格跟我说话。等你进了ivy league, 再跟我说英语,
: OK?
:
: kind
: 甲
: right,

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c*9
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谢谢!赶紧学习去,我的栀子花开始有花苞了
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p*n
36
BSO?

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: 没事儿,脸上多涂蜡,脸皮厚点就可以。
: 俺的thesis就很烂,三篇不入流的小paper.
: 但是能毕业才是关键。所以厚着脸皮也得上。

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j*e
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hey, I am talking to you, the low ranking school low level major stuff:
Your English is broken and bad everywhere.
You are a loser, not "looser", OK??
I hold an Ivy League Phd. if you ever attend Ivy League, then I may look at
you. Otherwise, you go away, OK?

made
.

【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: hey, i was not even talking to you? Do not flatter yourself.
: Please, are u even a faculty somewhere? Broken, ok, ok, broken, man, are
: you actually trying to atrack me or mocking lot 1 and yourself ? now u made
: yourself a joke. Go find a room and do your s**ty business there?
: ivy? i am not sure you have ever been to an ivy i attended.Yours has to be
: one of the most prestigious fagot schools, is your adviser Dr. she-male?
: Wow, you really scared me, you are so up there, i cannot even look at u.
: Jesus, what a brassy snob u are. Economics? your whole family is economics.
: How weak is your research capability? Are u sure Dr she-male taught u
: anything?

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M*n
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give me a reason why I want to BSO?
I merely wanted to encourage a PhD student who is approaching a critical
point in his career/life.

【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: BSO?
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m*e
39
u gay people thought everyone should pay attention to you regardless of
their sexual preference. in ur case, did u suffer from attention deficiency
when u were young?
u are talking to me? who the f u think u are, u " wood"pecker?
u are talking to me ? let's put the logic straight, u said u would NOT talk
to me, but u keep coming back and show off ur childish replies. if we
define replying as the only way to talk on this site, do help me out, what
exactly are u doing? apparently u are seeking attention here, u horny
bastard, i am sorry to waste your time, but i am straight.
if u can still read, u should drop the ivy issue now. that is unfortunately
our commonality. i am not sure if u graduated, ur symptoms are typical of a
lower level school (in ur words) student that finally made it to a top
school. u guys normally cannot wait to show off your new "achievement".
that is so
shallow and childish, do look up the word brassy please, u fit squarely in.
i wonder if u even know what my field is. 经济 is a 专业, when u say 烂校烂
专业经济系, that is entertainingly silly. is this really the best u can do,
好专业people ? i highly respect 经济 as a field, and u are such an
opportunistic
cheater when u arbitrarily categorize 专业 into binary categories. how can a
trained researcher be so simple and naive that u can only see things purely
linear
. u are the kind that doesn't have the guts to follow ur true interest and
has money make every decision, how are u people different from prostitutes?
At least many of them got no other options, u guys, prostituting ur future
to a filthy materialistic belief can't be more pathetic.
again, do find more words to replace ur broken and ok. aren't u tired of
them? are u a 复读机哥哥?
if u have to bark again, do talk about something new, no ivy anymore, think
about our readers.

at

【在 j**********e 的大作中提到】
: hey, I am talking to you, the low ranking school low level major stuff:
: Your English is broken and bad everywhere.
: You are a loser, not "looser", OK??
: I hold an Ivy League Phd. if you ever attend Ivy League, then I may look at
: you. Otherwise, you go away, OK?
:
: made
: .

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k*n
40
thanks man!!! appreciate this a lot, happy new year!

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: give me a reason why I want to BSO?
: I merely wanted to encourage a PhD student who is approaching a critical
: point in his career/life.

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O*e
41
你实在觉得不妥,那你就先发一篇文章再毕业呗。文章能发,至少你说服了editor and
2-3 reviewers,这多少也能给你点信心和安慰。

thesis
怎么

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 因为各种各样的原因(老板误导,做的课题跟实验室没关系,个人的懒,笨),thesis
: 做得很肤浅,可
: 以发两篇小烂肤浅paper,没有molecular东西。现在在写thesis,人不在学校,老板要
: 我写信去
: convince thesis committee我可以毕业,我心说我自己都不能convince我自己,还怎么
: convince别人?很多人跟我说他们毕业也没啥东西,还有人defense一半的slides是致
: 谢,
: doesn't really make me feel better. 有人有这种经历么?谢谢!

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O*e
42
如果是三篇小JBC,那也够可观的了。。。

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: 没事儿,脸上多涂蜡,脸皮厚点就可以。
: 俺的thesis就很烂,三篇不入流的小paper.
: 但是能毕业才是关键。所以厚着脸皮也得上。

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k*n
43
已经发了一篇了.........没有任何信心和安慰............

and

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 你实在觉得不妥,那你就先发一篇文章再毕业呗。文章能发,至少你说服了editor and
: 2-3 reviewers,这多少也能给你点信心和安慰。
:
: thesis
: 怎么

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O*e
44
你拿了学位以后,准备干啥?

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 已经发了一篇了.........没有任何信心和安慰............
:
: and

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C*e
45
只要你老板不想拦着你
基本没人会特意给难堪

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 问题是要是committee不让毕业呢?没有这个可能么?那我岂不是丢人丢尽了还没
: 用..................

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p*n
46
人BSO还需要理由吗?
他一片文章都还没有,你说自己3片答辩了还是厚着脸皮的,俺怎么也没看出来
这是"encourage"啊

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: give me a reason why I want to BSO?
: I merely wanted to encourage a PhD student who is approaching a critical
: point in his career/life.

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f*n
47
发信人: kirin (希), 信区: Biology
标 题: Re: 有没有人觉得thesis太烂没脸去答辩的?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 2 11:11:57 2011, 美东)
已经发了一篇了

【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 人BSO还需要理由吗?
: 他一片文章都还没有,你说自己3片答辩了还是厚着脸皮的,俺怎么也没看出来
: 这是"encourage"啊

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M*n
48
i am sorry that I did not spell it out clearly.
by the time of my defense, only 1 tiny paper (much worse than JBC) had been
published. and the following two works from my thesis were published two and
three years after I got my phd degree. they were small papers too.
so I don't think I have any reason to BSO.

【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 人BSO还需要理由吗?
: 他一片文章都还没有,你说自己3片答辩了还是厚着脸皮的,俺怎么也没看出来
: 这是"encourage"啊

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s*s
49
JBS是啥?
我咋老觉得您应该是有个CNS啥的啊

been
and

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: i am sorry that I did not spell it out clearly.
: by the time of my defense, only 1 tiny paper (much worse than JBC) had been
: published. and the following two works from my thesis were published two and
: three years after I got my phd degree. they were small papers too.
: so I don't think I have any reason to BSO.

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k*n
50
科普,写作加编辑(已经开始做了),还有环境的nonprofit。

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 你拿了学位以后,准备干啥?
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M*n
51
俺没有CNS publication,
有的话,也不在这儿哭穷了。
不过, 牛奶会有的,面包会有的...
scientist的人生还是要乐观点。

【在 s*******s 的大作中提到】
: JBS是啥?
: 我咋老觉得您应该是有个CNS啥的啊
:
: been
: and

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k*n
52
faint, I only got the encouragement part from your post, didn't get the
bso part....

been
and

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: i am sorry that I did not spell it out clearly.
: by the time of my defense, only 1 tiny paper (much worse than JBC) had been
: published. and the following two works from my thesis were published two and
: three years after I got my phd degree. they were small papers too.
: so I don't think I have any reason to BSO.

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M*n
53
that's the part you should get.
discard the claim of BSO.

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: faint, I only got the encouragement part from your post, didn't get the
: bso part....
:
: been
: and

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f*e
54
这个答辩,不在于做得怎么样,在于讲得怎么样
你多练几遍把故事讲得好就行了
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N*S
55
我当时没脸去答辩。。。几年后相当的后悔。。。毕竟多个学位阿。。。

thesis
怎么

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 因为各种各样的原因(老板误导,做的课题跟实验室没关系,个人的懒,笨),thesis
: 做得很肤浅,可
: 以发两篇小烂肤浅paper,没有molecular东西。现在在写thesis,人不在学校,老板要
: 我写信去
: convince thesis committee我可以毕业,我心说我自己都不能convince我自己,还怎么
: convince别人?很多人跟我说他们毕业也没啥东西,还有人defense一半的slides是致
: 谢,
: doesn't really make me feel better. 有人有这种经历么?谢谢!

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k*n
56
真的假的啊!还真有跟我一样想的............

【在 N*S 的大作中提到】
: 我当时没脸去答辩。。。几年后相当的后悔。。。毕竟多个学位阿。。。
:
: thesis
: 怎么

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N*S
57
当时已经在别的地方了,跟你差不多吧,不过还是建议你尽量答辩吧,就一口气而已,
至少以后不后悔。。。

【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: 真的假的啊!还真有跟我一样想的............
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k*n
58
真的很感谢你的回复,也是,怎么样也就这样了,最后一次尽人事吧。祝你和楼上的同
学们新年快
乐!!

【在 N*S 的大作中提到】
: 当时已经在别的地方了,跟你差不多吧,不过还是建议你尽量答辩吧,就一口气而已,
: 至少以后不后悔。。。

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m*g
59
一般老板说了算,无所谓的事情,别对自己要求太高了,
你在别的教授的眼里就是DR。XXXX一个快要毕业的学生,
过几年可能都不认识你了。
就是你心理的那个高标准在抽打你而已。
去参加答辩吧,走个过场而已。祝福!
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j*a
60
re。这个说得好。

【在 m******g 的大作中提到】
: 一般老板说了算,无所谓的事情,别对自己要求太高了,
: 你在别的教授的眼里就是DR。XXXX一个快要毕业的学生,
: 过几年可能都不认识你了。
: 就是你心理的那个高标准在抽打你而已。
: 去参加答辩吧,走个过场而已。祝福!

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k*n
61
你真是说到我的心里去了,谢谢!!我会加油的!!

【在 m******g 的大作中提到】
: 一般老板说了算,无所谓的事情,别对自己要求太高了,
: 你在别的教授的眼里就是DR。XXXX一个快要毕业的学生,
: 过几年可能都不认识你了。
: 就是你心理的那个高标准在抽打你而已。
: 去参加答辩吧,走个过场而已。祝福!

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s*w
62
去吧。脸皮厚点。都熬了5,6年了,被打击也被打击的够了,不欠这多一回。
我做到毕业交论文前一天才想好论文题目叫什么,做的东西自己都不知道为什么要做,
看到一大堆乱七八糟的东西哭笑不得。找博厚找了4个月都没找到任何一家。
郁闷的时候真是什么了结的念头都有,但是我朋友说,you graduate, then you are
phd. nobody cares what you have done when you are a phd student. Now you
will have the damn title forever after your name. That is it.
就差一口气就是一个title了,过去了拿到了就行了。
接下来转行还是怎么的,就是未来的生活了。
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k*n
63
谢谢你!真得很有帮助:):)

【在 s*******w 的大作中提到】
: 去吧。脸皮厚点。都熬了5,6年了,被打击也被打击的够了,不欠这多一回。
: 我做到毕业交论文前一天才想好论文题目叫什么,做的东西自己都不知道为什么要做,
: 看到一大堆乱七八糟的东西哭笑不得。找博厚找了4个月都没找到任何一家。
: 郁闷的时候真是什么了结的念头都有,但是我朋友说,you graduate, then you are
: phd. nobody cares what you have done when you are a phd student. Now you
: will have the damn title forever after your name. That is it.
: 就差一口气就是一个title了,过去了拿到了就行了。
: 接下来转行还是怎么的,就是未来的生活了。

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a*n
64
刚刚拿了个phd,虽然教授们说做得好啊好,但我早已洞悉了美国这种不实的夸奖,微
笑致谢,内心还是很明白自己的project还有很多地方没有个合理的解释。就像lz一样
,这些疑惑在phd期间一直折磨着我,老板却处之泰然,我赞他见多识广。但所有的顾
虑,在今天这一切已经成为过去式,我终于不用再想破头,不担心有什么叉子让我拿不
到学位。lz不要折磨自己,如果你老板定了你能毕业,你就安心拿学位去。
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