a*e
2 楼
我开两天电脑，一台听，一台灌。
w*a
3 楼
这个贴：
http://bbs.sjtu.edu.cn/bbstcon,board,teacher,reid,1320389539.ht
5号的工资 有些人400多 有些人更少啊
http://bbs.sjtu.edu.cn/bbstcon,board,teacher,reid,1320389539.ht
5号的工资 有些人400多 有些人更少啊
s*d
4 楼
有现成口就比较容易。没有就看你的房子接有多难了，
几百到几千都有可能啊。
几百到几千都有可能啊。
g*9
5 楼
If you already have gas service at home, it may not be so bad, depending how
far you have to run the pipe, i guess. Black iron pipe are not expensive at
all, if you can DIY, it is very cheap. If you have a unfinished basement,
it will almost be a piece of cake.
【在 m*****s 的大作中提到】
: gas口是不是要另外装，需要多少钱呢？谢谢
far you have to run the pipe, i guess. Black iron pipe are not expensive at
all, if you can DIY, it is very cheap. If you have a unfinished basement,
it will almost be a piece of cake.
【在 m*****s 的大作中提到】
: gas口是不是要另外装，需要多少钱呢？谢谢
m*s
6 楼
Heating: NATURAL GAS, FORCED AIR, HEAT PUMP
Cooling:
ELECTRIC, CEILING FAN(S), CENTRAL AIR
Water:
PUBLIC, NATURAL GAS HOT WATER
请问是不是就有gas service啊？不知道炉子的地方有没有。basement是半Finish的。
一点都不handy,不知道这要请问装要多少钱啊。
中国人做菜，好用gas，是吧。
买个合心意的房子真难啊。
how
at
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: If you already have gas service at home, it may not be so bad, depending how
: far you have to run the pipe, i guess. Black iron pipe are not expensive at
: all, if you can DIY, it is very cheap. If you have a unfinished basement,
: it will almost be a piece of cake.
Cooling:
ELECTRIC, CEILING FAN(S), CENTRAL AIR
Water:
PUBLIC, NATURAL GAS HOT WATER
请问是不是就有gas service啊？不知道炉子的地方有没有。basement是半Finish的。
一点都不handy,不知道这要请问装要多少钱啊。
中国人做菜，好用gas，是吧。
买个合心意的房子真难啊。
how
at
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: If you already have gas service at home, it may not be so bad, depending how
: far you have to run the pipe, i guess. Black iron pipe are not expensive at
: all, if you can DIY, it is very cheap. If you have a unfinished basement,
: it will almost be a piece of cake.
s*d
7 楼
你有basement就不会难，通管子应该几百块也够了。
拉开炉子看后面有没有天然气管子，没有就找contractor问吧。
拉开炉子看后面有没有天然气管子，没有就找contractor问吧。
g*9
8 楼
Yes.
不知道炉子的地方有没有。
Pull out your range and see if you have a black pipe that is capped right
now.
basement是半Finish的。
Is the part underneath kitchen finished?
That depends on how far you have to run the pipe and how much finished area
need to be repaired after.
I like induction cooktop better now, but also find myself use steam oven a
lot.
That could be true, should consider build next time
【在 m*****s 的大作中提到】
: Heating: NATURAL GAS, FORCED AIR, HEAT PUMP
: Cooling:
: ELECTRIC, CEILING FAN(S), CENTRAL AIR
: Water:
: PUBLIC, NATURAL GAS HOT WATER
: 请问是不是就有gas service啊？不知道炉子的地方有没有。basement是半Finish的。
: 一点都不handy,不知道这要请问装要多少钱啊。
: 中国人做菜，好用gas，是吧。
: 买个合心意的房子真难啊。
:
C*d
9 楼
Before you change to gas, you might want to consider the following
advantages about electric oven:
1. Much safer, no risk of leaking, explosion, CO and CO2 poisoning.
2. No smell like gas.
3. Not competing Oxygen with you in your house, which means less new air
needed to be brought in, and cheaper heating/cooling cost.
4. No residue on your cooking utensils that is difficult to remove.
For normal cooking, your possible saving might not worth the benefits above,
besides the cost for conversion.
advantages about electric oven:
1. Much safer, no risk of leaking, explosion, CO and CO2 poisoning.
2. No smell like gas.
3. Not competing Oxygen with you in your house, which means less new air
needed to be brought in, and cheaper heating/cooling cost.
4. No residue on your cooking utensils that is difficult to remove.
For normal cooking, your possible saving might not worth the benefits above,
besides the cost for conversion.
s*d
10 楼
gas range唯一好处就是火力变化快。
如果用induction也差不多了。
gas 因为效率低（火跑掉很多），并不省钱。
above,
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: Before you change to gas, you might want to consider the following
: advantages about electric oven:
: 1. Much safer, no risk of leaking, explosion, CO and CO2 poisoning.
: 2. No smell like gas.
: 3. Not competing Oxygen with you in your house, which means less new air
: needed to be brought in, and cheaper heating/cooling cost.
: 4. No residue on your cooking utensils that is difficult to remove.
: For normal cooking, your possible saving might not worth the benefits above,
: besides the cost for conversion.
如果用induction也差不多了。
gas 因为效率低（火跑掉很多），并不省钱。
above,
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: Before you change to gas, you might want to consider the following
: advantages about electric oven:
: 1. Much safer, no risk of leaking, explosion, CO and CO2 poisoning.
: 2. No smell like gas.
: 3. Not competing Oxygen with you in your house, which means less new air
: needed to be brought in, and cheaper heating/cooling cost.
: 4. No residue on your cooking utensils that is difficult to remove.
: For normal cooking, your possible saving might not worth the benefits above,
: besides the cost for conversion.
g*9
11 楼
You should also consider this:
If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
burst.
I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
I don't even think that should be a concer
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: Before you change to gas, you might want to consider the following
: advantages about electric oven:
: 1. Much safer, no risk of leaking, explosion, CO and CO2 poisoning.
: 2. No smell like gas.
: 3. Not competing Oxygen with you in your house, which means less new air
: needed to be brought in, and cheaper heating/cooling cost.
: 4. No residue on your cooking utensils that is difficult to remove.
: For normal cooking, your possible saving might not worth the benefits above,
: besides the cost for conversion.
If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
burst.
I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
I don't even think that should be a concer
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: Before you change to gas, you might want to consider the following
: advantages about electric oven:
: 1. Much safer, no risk of leaking, explosion, CO and CO2 poisoning.
: 2. No smell like gas.
: 3. Not competing Oxygen with you in your house, which means less new air
: needed to be brought in, and cheaper heating/cooling cost.
: 4. No residue on your cooking utensils that is difficult to remove.
: For normal cooking, your possible saving might not worth the benefits above,
: besides the cost for conversion.
C*d
12 楼
Agree!
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
: gas range唯一好处就是火力变化快。
: 如果用induction也差不多了。
: gas 因为效率低（火跑掉很多），并不省钱。
:
: above,
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
: gas range唯一好处就是火力变化快。
: 如果用induction也差不多了。
: gas 因为效率低（火跑掉很多），并不省钱。
:
: above,
C*d
13 楼
Thanks for pointing this out.
However, whole house heating will not work with gas alone because
electricity is needed to run the fan to distribute the heat evenly to the
house.
Yes, you can have some cooking, and warming if you are close to the oven,
but don't expect much because you will use oxygen which has to be brought in
from outside cold air, or you will have the risk of getting poisoned by CO
and/or CO2.
I had a power outage recently for 11 hours, my house temperature only
dropped about 2
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
However, whole house heating will not work with gas alone because
electricity is needed to run the fan to distribute the heat evenly to the
house.
Yes, you can have some cooking, and warming if you are close to the oven,
but don't expect much because you will use oxygen which has to be brought in
from outside cold air, or you will have the risk of getting poisoned by CO
and/or CO2.
I had a power outage recently for 11 hours, my house temperature only
dropped about 2
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
C*d
14 楼
I hear a lot of news for accidents related to gas, and many people died
because of them. Yet I am still waiting to hear one news about a person
being electrocuted to big injury or death.
It happened to me a lot of times when there was a dead pilot fire.
Right, when you have a leak, you know how dangerous it can be without me to
mention that.
No, I am not. Actually for well insulated modern house, this should be a
more and more important concern.
does not do that, some pots I have been using dail
because of them. Yet I am still waiting to hear one news about a person
being electrocuted to big injury or death.
It happened to me a lot of times when there was a dead pilot fire.
Right, when you have a leak, you know how dangerous it can be without me to
mention that.
No, I am not. Actually for well insulated modern house, this should be a
more and more important concern.
does not do that, some pots I have been using dail
h*n
15 楼
讨论这种极小概率事件有什么意义么？
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
a9
16 楼
这边普通 的gas炉子比电的大不了多少，也不好用。
expensive
basement,
【在 m*****s 的大作中提到】
: Heating: NATURAL GAS, FORCED AIR, HEAT PUMP
: Cooling:
: ELECTRIC, CEILING FAN(S), CENTRAL AIR
: Water:
: PUBLIC, NATURAL GAS HOT WATER
: 请问是不是就有gas service啊？不知道炉子的地方有没有。basement是半Finish的。
: 一点都不handy,不知道这要请问装要多少钱啊。
: 中国人做菜，好用gas，是吧。
: 买个合心意的房子真难啊。
:
expensive
basement,
【在 m*****s 的大作中提到】
: Heating: NATURAL GAS, FORCED AIR, HEAT PUMP
: Cooling:
: ELECTRIC, CEILING FAN(S), CENTRAL AIR
: Water:
: PUBLIC, NATURAL GAS HOT WATER
: 请问是不是就有gas service啊？不知道炉子的地方有没有。basement是半Finish的。
: 一点都不handy,不知道这要请问装要多少钱啊。
: 中国人做菜，好用gas，是吧。
: 买个合心意的房子真难啊。
:
s*d
17 楼
用grill就行了。
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
h*d
18 楼
没电了furnace一样不出风啊。
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
g*9
19 楼
You can still use gas stove or fire place to heat the house if you still
have gas. I am not talking about earth quake situation. But here in north,
we lost electricity a lot during winter storm. That is why I installed a
back up generator for my house. It is happening quite frequent.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 没电了furnace一样不出风啊。
:
: will
have gas. I am not talking about earth quake situation. But here in north,
we lost electricity a lot during winter storm. That is why I installed a
back up generator for my house. It is happening quite frequent.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 没电了furnace一样不出风啊。
:
: will
h*d
20 楼
here in the north, we haven't lost power for the past decade, for my own
experience. a fireplace without blower isnt very useful and the water pipes
will be frozen.
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You can still use gas stove or fire place to heat the house if you still
: have gas. I am not talking about earth quake situation. But here in north,
: we lost electricity a lot during winter storm. That is why I installed a
: back up generator for my house. It is happening quite frequent.
experience. a fireplace without blower isnt very useful and the water pipes
will be frozen.
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You can still use gas stove or fire place to heat the house if you still
: have gas. I am not talking about earth quake situation. But here in north,
: we lost electricity a lot during winter storm. That is why I installed a
: back up generator for my house. It is happening quite frequent.
g*9
21 楼
Lucky you.
for my own
pipes
Depending on your outdoor temp, this could be possible. But if your outside
is above -20 F. A Peninsula or see through gas fireplace in the middle of
basement and goes all the way through your 2nd story roof, should keep the
house warm enough to prevent the pipes from freezing. Acutally if your house
is well insulated, it should keep it around 70 F. After you let the fire
place burn a few hours, you can feel the walls surround the chimney all
begin to radiate heat.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: here in the north, we haven't lost power for the past decade, for my own
: experience. a fireplace without blower isnt very useful and the water pipes
: will be frozen.
b*1
22 楼
想那么多
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
will
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You should also consider this:
: If you lose electricity to your house in winter time, your HVAC system will
: stop working, with a gas stove, you can still cook and stay warm and your
: pipe will not freeze. If you only have electric stove, you will be cold,
: hungry and after a day or two, your water pipes will begin to freeze and
: burst.
: I assume your house do not have a back up generator.
:
: How often do you hear that on the news? You can get electrocuted too.
: I don't even think that should be a concer
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