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h*y2009-03-04 08:03

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Follow up on a thread that I saw in the living board, how many months'
emergency cash do you think is adequate in this financial crisis? 6 months?
12 months? 24 months? 36 months? 48 months?
I'm asking this because people are saying that the more the merrier. But my
counter argument is that this is probably the worst finanical crisis in our
life time. If you don't feel a tiny bit of liquidity crunch right now, isn't
your investment too conservative? Look at Buffett, he sold JNJ etc to keep
exces

f*g2009-03-04 08:03

2 楼

靠，那边晕完又上这边看见您老。
24+ months，俺土，可是美国这边也太没保障了，三姑六姨的也没有，出点问题太难招
架。

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【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: Follow up on a thread that I saw in the living board, how many months'
: emergency cash do you think is adequate in this financial crisis? 6 months?
: 12 months? 24 months? 36 months? 48 months?
: I'm asking this because people are saying that the more the merrier. But my
: counter argument is that this is probably the worst finanical crisis in our
: life time. If you don't feel a tiny bit of liquidity crunch right now, isn't
: your investment too conservative? Look at Buffett, he sold JNJ etc to keep
: exces

S*n2009-03-04 08:03

3 楼

I root for "bank of Sealy".
Fvck those banks. No deposit.
"The FDIC last week approved a one-time mergency fee and other assessment
increases on the industry to rebuild a fund to repay customers for deposits
of as much as $250,000 when a bank fails. The fees, opposed by the industry,
may generate $27 billion this year after the fund fell to $18.9 billion in
the fourth quarter from $34.6 billion in the previous period, the FDIC said.
The fund was drained by 25 bank failures last year.
Smaller ban

【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: Follow up on a thread that I saw in the living board, how many months'
: emergency cash do you think is adequate in this financial crisis? 6 months?
: 12 months? 24 months? 36 months? 48 months?
: I'm asking this because people are saying that the more the merrier. But my
: counter argument is that this is probably the worst finanical crisis in our
: life time. If you don't feel a tiny bit of liquidity crunch right now, isn't
: your investment too conservative? Look at Buffett, he sold JNJ etc to keep
: exces

K*D2009-03-04 08:03

4 楼

No debt with job: 0 month. Use credit cards to handle, or cash out Roth
IRA contribution.
No debt no job: 12 months. If still no job, go back to China or 打黑工
to keep positive cash flow。
With debt with job: you should already have enough emergency cash
at hand. If not, start to eat rice and beans only.
With debt no job: bankrupt directly, or max out all credit cards and
flee to China.

?
my
our
't
keep
important:
run
kindness

【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: Follow up on a thread that I saw in the living board, how many months'
: emergency cash do you think is adequate in this financial crisis? 6 months?
: 12 months? 24 months? 36 months? 48 months?
: I'm asking this because people are saying that the more the merrier. But my
: counter argument is that this is probably the worst finanical crisis in our
: life time. If you don't feel a tiny bit of liquidity crunch right now, isn't
: your investment too conservative? Look at Buffett, he sold JNJ etc to keep
: exces

b*e2009-03-04 08:03

5 楼

I have the same feeling. There is already something called unemployment
benefit. Giving people to much emergency cash will slow down their pace of
finding another job. For most Americans, if you give them 24 months of
emergency cash, they will goto Cancun the next morning.

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【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: Follow up on a thread that I saw in the living board, how many months'
: emergency cash do you think is adequate in this financial crisis? 6 months?
: 12 months? 24 months? 36 months? 48 months?
: I'm asking this because people are saying that the more the merrier. But my
: counter argument is that this is probably the worst finanical crisis in our
: life time. If you don't feel a tiny bit of liquidity crunch right now, isn't
: your investment too conservative? Look at Buffett, he sold JNJ etc to keep
: exces

h*y2009-03-04 08:03

6 楼

是我英文太烂了么,都看晕了呀?
美国这边虽然没有三姑六姨,不是现在都流行问政府要钱么? 我觉得24+个月的现金,给
的是错误的安全感. 你想,如果受过高等教育身份没有问题的能吃苦耐劳的中国人都两
年以上找不到工作花光了钱. 老美呢? 还不在你现金花到一半的时候到你家拿着枪把另
一半给抢了?

【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】

: 靠，那边晕完又上这边看见您老。
: 24+ months，俺土，可是美国这边也太没保障了，三姑六姨的也没有，出点问题太难招
: 架。
:
: ?
: my
: our
: 't
: keep
: important:

h*y2009-03-04 08:03

7 楼

请问您存的是什么币种? 金条? 欧元? 加拿大元? 我总觉得担心美国银行倒闭,但是手
里还拿着美金现钞是一种很矛盾的行为.

【在 S******n 的大作中提到】

: I root for "bank of Sealy".
: Fvck those banks. No deposit.
: "The FDIC last week approved a one-time mergency fee and other assessment
: increases on the industry to rebuild a fund to repay customers for deposits
: of as much as $250,000 when a bank fails. The fees, opposed by the industry,
: may generate $27 billion this year after the fund fell to $18.9 billion in
: the fourth quarter from $34.6 billion in the previous period, the FDIC said.
: The fund was drained by 25 bank failures last year.
: Smaller ban

K*D2009-03-04 08:03

8 楼

What can they find? "Bank of Sealy"? hoho.

【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: 是我英文太烂了么,都看晕了呀?
: 美国这边虽然没有三姑六姨,不是现在都流行问政府要钱么? 我觉得24+个月的现金,给
: 的是错误的安全感. 你想,如果受过高等教育身份没有问题的能吃苦耐劳的中国人都两
: 年以上找不到工作花光了钱. 老美呢? 还不在你现金花到一半的时候到你家拿着枪把另
: 一半给抢了?

h*y2009-03-04 08:03

9 楼

这个没有考虑worst-case scenario. 要是股票暴跌,Roth IRA巨亏的那一天你丢了工作
,然后信用卡公司单方面取消你的信用卡,怎么能一下有十二个月的开销呢? (考虑公司
州都发不出失业救济/package的情况)

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】

: No debt with job: 0 month. Use credit cards to handle, or cash out Roth
: IRA contribution.
: No debt no job: 12 months. If still no job, go back to China or 打黑工
: to keep positive cash flow。
: With debt with job: you should already have enough emergency cash
: at hand. If not, start to eat rice and beans only.
: With debt no job: bankrupt directly, or max out all credit cards and
: flee to China.
:
: ?

K*D2009-03-04 08:03

10 楼

That would not qualify "no debt", which implies a positive networth.
Therefore, in the following case I can just comfortably cash out my Roth
IRA (or from somewhere else) and pay off all my credit card debt.
But it's indeed bad after that, if my networth is near zero.

【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: 这个没有考虑worst-case scenario. 要是股票暴跌,Roth IRA巨亏的那一天你丢了工作
: ,然后信用卡公司单方面取消你的信用卡,怎么能一下有十二个月的开销呢? (考虑公司
: 州都发不出失业救济/package的情况)

c*o2009-03-04 08:03

11 楼

俺有半年的cash（假定都没工作了），最近去再开了个HELOC，应该足够了吧

s*d2009-03-04 08:03

12 楼

嗯。我不光开了，还把钱都拿了出来，免得他们给我降limit。。。

【在 c****o 的大作中提到】

: 俺有半年的cash（假定都没工作了），最近去再开了个HELOC，应该足够了吧

r*y2009-03-04 08:03

13 楼

假设银行还能有钱提的出来...12个月吧...直接把俺的房子foreclosure..吃12月饭的
钱..

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my
our
't
keep
important:
run
kindness

【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: Follow up on a thread that I saw in the living board, how many months'
: emergency cash do you think is adequate in this financial crisis? 6 months?
: 12 months? 24 months? 36 months? 48 months?
: I'm asking this because people are saying that the more the merrier. But my
: counter argument is that this is probably the worst finanical crisis in our
: life time. If you don't feel a tiny bit of liquidity crunch right now, isn't
: your investment too conservative? Look at Buffett, he sold JNJ etc to keep
: exces

S*n2009-03-04 08:03

14 楼

没啥好选择，中美都有。
适合老中的两个大国，放弃一切国际贸易也能吃喝睡，自身资源够用，武力强大。

【在 h*******y 的大作中提到】

: 这个没有考虑worst-case scenario. 要是股票暴跌,Roth IRA巨亏的那一天你丢了工作
: ,然后信用卡公司单方面取消你的信用卡,怎么能一下有十二个月的开销呢? (考虑公司
: 州都发不出失业救济/package的情况)