H*7
2 楼
冷静
c*o
4 楼
http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?l
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 给个可操作的建议?
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 给个可操作的建议?
m*a
5 楼
这个raised bed 会不会把地下的草闷死?
e*t
6 楼
这个真高级,我的后院可能配不上,或者将来种的菜很失败就更配不上了。
【在 c****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?l
【在 c****o 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?l
e*t
22 楼
不好弄啊,我可能要放弃这个想法了。
但是这人说的很简单似地。
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg1014303819744.
Last fall I did the same thing you are planning. I did it the lazy way
though.
I put the raised bed frames right on the lawn, laid newspaper several layers
thick down on top of the grass (no tilling!) and filled the beds with a mix
of peat moss, sheep manure and compost. Some of the compost was only
partially finished. Then in the spring I planted.
It wasn't exactly a lasagne garden because the contents were already
composted, or at least partly composted. Even in the fall, that would be
suitable for planting garlic if you wanted to use it right away.
The best part is that I dug down this year and hit the original soil. Not a
blade of grass to be seen. It looks like the grass and newspaper composted
to nothing over the course of this year. As a bonus, the original soil was
very soft to dig through, as opposed to the hard-packed mess I was faced
with last year.
I'd recommend doing it this way. So easy.
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不知道有多大,取决于你草皮底下土的质量。如果是好土,我建议先割到最低,然后直
: 接翻土。要种菜总得翻个半尺土。raised bed活也不少。
但是这人说的很简单似地。
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg1014303819744.
Last fall I did the same thing you are planning. I did it the lazy way
though.
I put the raised bed frames right on the lawn, laid newspaper several layers
thick down on top of the grass (no tilling!) and filled the beds with a mix
of peat moss, sheep manure and compost. Some of the compost was only
partially finished. Then in the spring I planted.
It wasn't exactly a lasagne garden because the contents were already
composted, or at least partly composted. Even in the fall, that would be
suitable for planting garlic if you wanted to use it right away.
The best part is that I dug down this year and hit the original soil. Not a
blade of grass to be seen. It looks like the grass and newspaper composted
to nothing over the course of this year. As a bonus, the original soil was
very soft to dig through, as opposed to the hard-packed mess I was faced
with last year.
I'd recommend doing it this way. So easy.
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不知道有多大,取决于你草皮底下土的质量。如果是好土,我建议先割到最低,然后直
: 接翻土。要种菜总得翻个半尺土。raised bed活也不少。
f*i
24 楼
你准备花多少钱?
layers
mix
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不好弄啊,我可能要放弃这个想法了。
: 但是这人说的很简单似地。
: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg1014303819744.
: Last fall I did the same thing you are planning. I did it the lazy way
: though.
: I put the raised bed frames right on the lawn, laid newspaper several layers
: thick down on top of the grass (no tilling!) and filled the beds with a mix
: of peat moss, sheep manure and compost. Some of the compost was only
: partially finished. Then in the spring I planted.
: It wasn't exactly a lasagne garden because the contents were already
layers
mix
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不好弄啊,我可能要放弃这个想法了。
: 但是这人说的很简单似地。
: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg1014303819744.
: Last fall I did the same thing you are planning. I did it the lazy way
: though.
: I put the raised bed frames right on the lawn, laid newspaper several layers
: thick down on top of the grass (no tilling!) and filled the beds with a mix
: of peat moss, sheep manure and compost. Some of the compost was only
: partially finished. Then in the spring I planted.
: It wasn't exactly a lasagne garden because the contents were already
R*r
27 楼
现在做来不及了
layers
mix
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不好弄啊,我可能要放弃这个想法了。
: 但是这人说的很简单似地。
: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg1014303819744.
: Last fall I did the same thing you are planning. I did it the lazy way
: though.
: I put the raised bed frames right on the lawn, laid newspaper several layers
: thick down on top of the grass (no tilling!) and filled the beds with a mix
: of peat moss, sheep manure and compost. Some of the compost was only
: partially finished. Then in the spring I planted.
: It wasn't exactly a lasagne garden because the contents were already
layers
mix
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 不好弄啊,我可能要放弃这个想法了。
: 但是这人说的很简单似地。
: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg1014303819744.
: Last fall I did the same thing you are planning. I did it the lazy way
: though.
: I put the raised bed frames right on the lawn, laid newspaper several layers
: thick down on top of the grass (no tilling!) and filled the beds with a mix
: of peat moss, sheep manure and compost. Some of the compost was only
: partially finished. Then in the spring I planted.
: It wasn't exactly a lasagne garden because the contents were already
f*8
31 楼
我也想种菜啊,每次都被老公打击,唉。。。
S*A
39 楼
The root or small broken piece in the soil will regrow.
You will have fun redo that again.
Also dry grass is easier to rake off. If I am doing
that now, I will get a de-thatcher attachment for my
FG110 tiller. That thing will get rid of the dry grass
very easily.
Also, I am not a big fan of tilling. I have do that myself,
only because I don't have other choice.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 直接用锄头刨出来
: 抖抖土,仍一边去不就行了吗.
: 菜地总是要翻的,干吗用roundup?
You will have fun redo that again.
Also dry grass is easier to rake off. If I am doing
that now, I will get a de-thatcher attachment for my
FG110 tiller. That thing will get rid of the dry grass
very easily.
Also, I am not a big fan of tilling. I have do that myself,
only because I don't have other choice.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 直接用锄头刨出来
: 抖抖土,仍一边去不就行了吗.
: 菜地总是要翻的,干吗用roundup?
p*r
40 楼
菜地吗,将来肯定还要长草的,只要不成规模拔拔,锄一下就完了
种菜应该至少翻地一尺吧
我开菜地的时候把镐都刨坏了两根
主要是大树根,镐砸在上面就坏了
第一根到HD换了,怪它质量不好
第二根自己没好意思换了
tiller估计也搞不定大树根
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: The root or small broken piece in the soil will regrow.
: You will have fun redo that again.
: Also dry grass is easier to rake off. If I am doing
: that now, I will get a de-thatcher attachment for my
: FG110 tiller. That thing will get rid of the dry grass
: very easily.
: Also, I am not a big fan of tilling. I have do that myself,
: only because I don't have other choice.
种菜应该至少翻地一尺吧
我开菜地的时候把镐都刨坏了两根
主要是大树根,镐砸在上面就坏了
第一根到HD换了,怪它质量不好
第二根自己没好意思换了
tiller估计也搞不定大树根
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: The root or small broken piece in the soil will regrow.
: You will have fun redo that again.
: Also dry grass is easier to rake off. If I am doing
: that now, I will get a de-thatcher attachment for my
: FG110 tiller. That thing will get rid of the dry grass
: very easily.
: Also, I am not a big fan of tilling. I have do that myself,
: only because I don't have other choice.
S*A
48 楼
Try it yourself. I did. The green part of the grass will make
a big mess with the tiller. You are mixing more green stuff into
the soil and more grass to grow. Simple till the root part will
not kill it clean. Take the whole root out of the soil is a different
story.
You want to use round up that is fine with me. It is just more
work to do. Dry grass is much easier to breakup than living grass,
which will tangle on your tiller.
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is useless in his case.草还是在那里,用不用roundup都死,用了roundup也不会
: 烂得更快
a big mess with the tiller. You are mixing more green stuff into
the soil and more grass to grow. Simple till the root part will
not kill it clean. Take the whole root out of the soil is a different
story.
You want to use round up that is fine with me. It is just more
work to do. Dry grass is much easier to breakup than living grass,
which will tangle on your tiller.
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is useless in his case.草还是在那里,用不用roundup都死,用了roundup也不会
: 烂得更快
S*A
49 楼
Try it yourself. I did. The green part of the grass will make
a big mess with the tiller. You are mixing more green stuff into
the soil and more grass to grow. Simple till the root part will
not kill it clean. Take the whole root out of the soil is a different
story.
You don't want to use round up that is fine with me. I can understand
the concern. It is just more work to do. Dry grass is much easier to
break up than living grass, which will tangle on your tiller.
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is useless in his case.草还是在那里,用不用roundup都死,用了roundup也不会
: 烂得更快
a big mess with the tiller. You are mixing more green stuff into
the soil and more grass to grow. Simple till the root part will
not kill it clean. Take the whole root out of the soil is a different
story.
You don't want to use round up that is fine with me. I can understand
the concern. It is just more work to do. Dry grass is much easier to
break up than living grass, which will tangle on your tiller.
【在 f****i 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is useless in his case.草还是在那里,用不用roundup都死,用了roundup也不会
: 烂得更快
e*t
50 楼
同学们的建议都很好。
作为一个又懒又抠门的劣质房奴,我决定不除草不翻地,虽然草地里什么树也没有。做
个小小的4'x4'x6"的方框,买8袋土或者compost(我这里没免费的,要1块多一袋
)。然后以后兔子的屎都倒里面去。看有没有菜能活下来。
请大家耐心等我来报告失败的消息。
作为一个又懒又抠门的劣质房奴,我决定不除草不翻地,虽然草地里什么树也没有。做
个小小的4'x4'x6"的方框,买8袋土或者compost(我这里没免费的,要1块多一袋
)。然后以后兔子的屎都倒里面去。看有没有菜能活下来。
请大家耐心等我来报告失败的消息。
f*i
52 楼
我家菜地不用我操心。
如果是我肯定是直接翻土晒一个礼拜,敲碎泥土,混入牛粪做底肥,草和根拿去堆肥。
上roundup的话,光是等草黄就得一个礼拜
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Try it yourself. I did. The green part of the grass will make
: a big mess with the tiller. You are mixing more green stuff into
: the soil and more grass to grow. Simple till the root part will
: not kill it clean. Take the whole root out of the soil is a different
: story.
: You don't want to use round up that is fine with me. I can understand
: the concern. It is just more work to do. Dry grass is much easier to
: break up than living grass, which will tangle on your tiller.
如果是我肯定是直接翻土晒一个礼拜,敲碎泥土,混入牛粪做底肥,草和根拿去堆肥。
上roundup的话,光是等草黄就得一个礼拜
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Try it yourself. I did. The green part of the grass will make
: a big mess with the tiller. You are mixing more green stuff into
: the soil and more grass to grow. Simple till the root part will
: not kill it clean. Take the whole root out of the soil is a different
: story.
: You don't want to use round up that is fine with me. I can understand
: the concern. It is just more work to do. Dry grass is much easier to
: break up than living grass, which will tangle on your tiller.
m*y
55 楼
I think you did the right thing.
1. You didn't use any chemical, well, at least no roundup. Go green!
2. By using a raised bed, you save your plants from washover from the lawn,
which might contains weed killers.
3. A raised bed also saves a lot of bending, your back will thank you.
4. Don't forget to put in some earth worms :) They don't come with bagged
soil or compost and you know how essential they are in improving the soil
quality.
5. Easy on 兔子的屎. If the manure didn't compost long enough, it burns your
plants. Actually, if you got enough earth worms, their shit is enough in
quantity.
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 同学们的建议都很好。
: 作为一个又懒又抠门的劣质房奴,我决定不除草不翻地,虽然草地里什么树也没有。做
: 个小小的4'x4'x6"的方框,买8袋土或者compost(我这里没免费的,要1块多一袋
: )。然后以后兔子的屎都倒里面去。看有没有菜能活下来。
: 请大家耐心等我来报告失败的消息。
1. You didn't use any chemical, well, at least no roundup. Go green!
2. By using a raised bed, you save your plants from washover from the lawn,
which might contains weed killers.
3. A raised bed also saves a lot of bending, your back will thank you.
4. Don't forget to put in some earth worms :) They don't come with bagged
soil or compost and you know how essential they are in improving the soil
quality.
5. Easy on 兔子的屎. If the manure didn't compost long enough, it burns your
plants. Actually, if you got enough earth worms, their shit is enough in
quantity.
【在 e********t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 同学们的建议都很好。
: 作为一个又懒又抠门的劣质房奴,我决定不除草不翻地,虽然草地里什么树也没有。做
: 个小小的4'x4'x6"的方框,买8袋土或者compost(我这里没免费的,要1块多一袋
: )。然后以后兔子的屎都倒里面去。看有没有菜能活下来。
: 请大家耐心等我来报告失败的消息。
z*n
57 楼
兔子屎混多了氮肯定够了,叶子菜喜欢,豆类和西红柿之类的未必喜欢
会造成植株巨大结果少的后果
,
your
【在 m***y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you did the right thing.
: 1. You didn't use any chemical, well, at least no roundup. Go green!
: 2. By using a raised bed, you save your plants from washover from the lawn,
: which might contains weed killers.
: 3. A raised bed also saves a lot of bending, your back will thank you.
: 4. Don't forget to put in some earth worms :) They don't come with bagged
: soil or compost and you know how essential they are in improving the soil
: quality.
: 5. Easy on 兔子的屎. If the manure didn't compost long enough, it burns your
: plants. Actually, if you got enough earth worms, their shit is enough in
会造成植株巨大结果少的后果
,
your
【在 m***y 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you did the right thing.
: 1. You didn't use any chemical, well, at least no roundup. Go green!
: 2. By using a raised bed, you save your plants from washover from the lawn,
: which might contains weed killers.
: 3. A raised bed also saves a lot of bending, your back will thank you.
: 4. Don't forget to put in some earth worms :) They don't come with bagged
: soil or compost and you know how essential they are in improving the soil
: quality.
: 5. Easy on 兔子的屎. If the manure didn't compost long enough, it burns your
: plants. Actually, if you got enough earth worms, their shit is enough in
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